Chelsea v Arsenal review – Much better but Gunners still lose

Arsene Wenger did react to the away day troubles that Arsenal had against our big rivals last season, mas he needed to. But without Aaron Ramsey or Mikel Arteta available to play due to injury, it was Santi Cazorla who dropped back alongside Jack Wilshere and Mathieu Flamini to make our midfield more compact.

And it helped, as did the better determination showed by the whole Gunners side. But sometimes there is nothing you can do about a bit of brilliance and it was Eden Hazard’s dazzling run into the box that broke the Arsenal resistance, winning a penalty that he also converted after 27 minutes. Maybe the little Belgian left his leg a bit but you always see them given and Koscielny was perhaps lucky not to see red.

At least Arsenal resisted the temptaion to go all out for the equaliser, because getting to the break just one behind kept us in the game. We created some good opportunities as well but could not quite find the killer pass or nreak down the very strong Chelsea defence.

Somehow though, we needed to push for an equaliser while staying strong at the back, which led to more chances. Cazorla zipped a shot narrowly wide after the restart, while Szczesny produced a great point blank save to stop a Flamini own goal, before Wilshere wanted a penalty for a Fabregas handball.

With around 25 minutes to go, Chamberlain came on for Cazorla. It didn’t happen though as we could not break through their lines and had to shoot from range. And then we succumbed to the counter attack, with Fabregas finding Costa who sprung the offside trap and made it 2-0.

It was a much better showing from Arsenal, which bodes well for the rest of the season, but we still get no points and Chelsea increase their lead over us to nine points. Also, the narrow wins for Man United and Tottenham leaves Arsenal down in 7th. So all in all it has not been the best of days.

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289 Comments

  1. we played well . just got undone by supreme talent, hazard-fabgregas-costa..safe to say its been 12 games- wenger will NEVER beat mourinho- we are there b*tches

          1. Ur right if he was gunna quit he would have done it already! 8-2 utd, 6-3 city, 5-1 liverfool and 6-0 chelski and he didnt quit! Unfortunately hes here for the rest of his contract! Id love klopp to be his replacement though

      1. Football is a team game. Why when a team lose, just pick one and slate. Ozil, Wilsheres or Wenger.
        Wenger got his tactics right, but they are at home and got better form and players.
        We are all frustrated but let’s regroup and work harder, we are trying but just not enough. Still have 31 games left to go

        1. I think saying that Wenger got his tactics right is a little naive. He has played Mourihno many times and not beaten him.

    1. The laughs at the end by Podolski and Rosicky just typify the performance. Last season was catastrophic because we took the risk of making our full backs essentially wingers, this time round we literally took no risks and as a result got no reward. At no point in the game did I genuinely feel a goal coming (aside from the Wilshere chance). Honestly Ramsey and Walcott are desperately needed. It was an average performance, the result I expected, nothing more nothing less. Gibbs played well, that’s as good as it gets.

      1. We are a year or two behind Chelsea and championship winning football really. In fairness, we didn’t do too badly today but the truth is I don’t think Wenger just will ever learn what it takes to win big games in the modern post-Henry era. If he ever will, then it’s taking way too long for a top-flight manager to adjust his game. There are a few out there who can do a better job than him at the moment. Arsenal won’t die without him – so much for keeping him in appreciation of his past good deeds. He’ll leave anyway sooner or later… we might as well prepare to eliminate him sooner! The more big games he loses, the more pissed off I get.

      2. I’m curious to know what Ozil did to warrant playing the full 90 mins?
        Cazorla was our spark and Wenger took him off, SMH
        Wenger will forever be inferior to Mourinho, Sad.

        1. I really do feel for Santi, plays his heart out when given the chance, you could tell he wasn’t happy with the change either with the shake of his head.

          1. and he is the reason wenger did not sign. Still in press conference he respected Arsenal, said Arsenal is in his heart… amaizing wenger

      3. The problem is with Wenger and not the players.. I see lukaku being overplayed by everton even if he is total,you out of form..bcoz they paid 30mill for him. It is as though manager wants him to succeed bcoz he signed him..even footballing sense might system otherwise.
        Same with ozil.. Tired of AW trying to convert players positions so that they make him look a genius.. Why the he’ll is ozil kept till 90 minutes when he is already wasted by 50mts?
        In big games we suffer bcoz of weak players like flsmini, ozil – when compared to physically strong players.
        AW should not have let song frimpong go.. In games like this tiky-takkaplayers are not of much use.

          1. Think there’s bad blood between Wenger and Song – I don’t see him coming back, although he is what we need.

        1. @ritblitz
          Spot on about Frimpong. We should have kept him and nutured his natural fighting talent. He would have been our Tiote…

          1. i dont think wenger does “natural fighting”.
            wenger goes for players that are good “footballistically”

      4. Arsenal Fc is not the problem Wenger is….he has tried for arsenal as a club but I think its time for him to take a bow….he have last his mojo…..

      1. Why are you comparing 2 players in different positions?
        Is it because that is the excuse Wenger used that excuse for not bringing Cesc back?

        An excerpt from the TV commentators guidebook: Mertsaker >> Gibbs >> Ozil >> Wiltshire >>[insert opposition players name]

      1. …that he is. Pissed off as we might be with him, he knows how to quench the thirst of hungry fans more than Wenger does!

    2. True ozil is the biggest waste of money I’ve ever seen..
      I want him to do so well yet he’s always that little bit too weak.. Doesn’t have the fight for a winning team.
      Fabregas showed huge class in his post match interview..
      Wenger the fool for not buying fabregas because we had ozil..
      On that decision alone – Wenger must go..

      1. well well well suddenly people here seem to realize how good Fabregas is. When I said this a few weeks back, I along with another guy was told to go and support chelsea!

        Anyways no point in this debate. we have to live with what we have, but I fear for Ozil. He looks like playing his own game in some corner of the ground!

        The ozil experimentation has to stop, we cannot have a passenger in big games- when will AW understand this? Numerous times I saw the ball being nicked off Ozil. We need to take a hard stance and start someone else in big games, and atleast have a fully committed 11 playing !

        Plus lets give the chelsea back 4 some credit- amazing amazing defenders. Btw do u guys remember when AW thought Cahill (at 7 or 9 million) was too pricey for Arsenal ?

        1. I don’t think any fan didn’t want Cesc back again, it’s just bravado because everyone knows Wenger made the wrong decision. Bit like the bravado booing him at the match, we all know where his heart is – and Wenger has yet again made the wrong decision.

          1. His reception was mixed some were booing, some were clapping and chanting his name.
            His reception was no where near as hostile as RVPs or Nasri’s

      2. When Wenger bought Özil, he bought the wrong engine for his grounded vehicle. Of course, your fukkin’ car won’t move, dumbass!

    3. someone need to send wilshere a video of that fabregas pass.
      no riunning with the ball.
      no attempting to do trick.
      nothing stylish.
      THE MOVE

      1 get the ball
      2 one touch to adjust himself
      3 pass the ball

      Wilshere is pushing Ozil out of his natural position. Wenger is selecting his team to accomodate him.
      for what he was suppose to do on the pitch( control the midfield). Wilshere was our worst player .He was simply overrun.

    4. Spot on and deserve a thumbs up for a good and honest appraisal of the match and the team.

      Ozil, for the umpteenth time was bloody awful again. Why Santi went off instead of Ozil I don’t know !

      We’re getting better………..albeit slowly but a lot better. However, we can’t just be content with getting better when we know we can do much more and turn better into success !

    5. I thought Sanchez & Wilshere were our best players.Also Flamini deserves praise & somewhat Santi Carzola.Other than that Arsenal were poor.Wenger should instead of pushing & then getting into a boxing match with Mourinho ,He should try out smart Mourinho tactically.But no Wenger is stubborn & wants to pass instead of sometimes direct play.Some critics were saying Sanchez was keeping the ball for too long thus passing was disturbed.Yeah right! instead of blaming ozil i blame wenger for not taking him off & showing tough love.Wenger prizes Ozil as his new lamborghini,Even when it needs repairs(Tough Love) he isn’t letting be opened up by a mechanic to fix it.(Rough example but still).Good coach but the past.I know alot of you will agree & sry for too long.

      1. @fst
        He should have taken off Jack. Matter of fact dude should only play against lower table teams. He cannot orchestrate our play better than Ozil or Santi. He is more like AW’s pet project than Ozil is.

      2. For the first time, I have nothing to say! The whole game just pisses me off…what was Flamini thinking abt! Should have brought Hazard down outside the box. A little more of the dirty play and we’d have a better game. Thanks to Ozil for always being absent when it matters.

    6. Hurts to say but we sure are the b!tches now… The whole game, we can’t even hit the bar, for fukk’s sake! Oh wait… I will hit the bar now!

    7. Wrong, if we’d have been playing Hazard against them, he would’ve been tactically fouled before he entered the box. We will never win unless we get another Viera. Fabregas was the real difference, and for some peculiar reason we sold him to Maureen….. go figure.

    8. Wenger got no clues. Arsenal team has being spineless for so long. I’m really angry with the Arsenal fans for not demanding Wenger’s resignation.

      People say that Wenger did this and that for Arsenal but isn’t he paid to do that? Also, we will never beat big teams as long as Wenger gets his tactics wrong. Hr can’t even outmanoeuvre Jose who was an apprentice when Wenger was a full-time coach.

      I’m soooooooo damn angry!!!!!!!

      1. How can you buy 43 milion player and stuck him in the wrong position?

        How can you change your winning formation. The formation that beat Galatasary is the same formation that scored 3 goals in less than 4 minutes.

        Why is Wenger obsessed with Wiltshere? The guy slows down our counterattack.
        Theo is our most important player and it breaks my heart that we don’t make him feel that way.

        My last thought, Sanchez is really a good player but he needa to pass the ball more and stop dancing with it.

    9. Guys look, if Ozil had the space and time to play the balls Fabregas played, he would have played them. Fabregas was allowed space centrally whereas Ozil was shut out on the wings. I think the difference between the two was how their team supported them. Why compare?

      1. I think Cesc in the wing is also much better than ozil in the wings,can also play box to box or CAM can tackle put his body in the game,score goals from many angles and above all Cesc is an arsenal graduate we all remember how Cesc made our midfield so dominant in many games, we remember how he was during our barca game till he got injured lets not forget le capitan. Mesut Ozil: the guy has a heart as small as a fist of a 3 month child the only position he can play is CAM and only under certain circumstances, he came with an incredible assist record (for the team with someone who scores for fun) full stop. Can we compare the present Ozil to Cesc? No way!!!

    10. I would put Welbeck down at a 3/4 for this match, he lost the ball in vital areas, probably as many times as Özil, and should’ve passed rather than trying to run through.

    11. We played against a clinical team and Wenger feel victim (again) to Mourinho’s games on the pitch. “We played well but they played better” this is becoming the theme song for arsenal when matched against big teams. We are ranked the 5th out of the 20 most valuable team (forbes), that’s higher than Chelsea, City, Dortmund, Atletico and more, and we can’t even compete on the pitch with them? WTF!!!Seriously. Then again, it’s only one game and we had several injuries, but injuries are apart of football, every team has to deal with them, i’m just hoping that this beef with Mourinho will fire Wenger up to compete.

    1. I lost interest in the rest of the season at Westfalenstadion… Wins against a lackluster Galatasaray & teams of that sort bring a smile to my face, but they are no match to winning against a big team. We have already drawn against City, lost against Chelsea… I see the same old trend for another year!

  2. They are of different league. On par with Munich, Madrid, Barca……
    We r on par with Dortmund, ManU, PSG………

  3. Once again lazy Chamberlain gets on and only starts running at after we go 2-0 down. Cazorla was the best player don’t know why he was substituted. Chelsea only clean sheet this season agianst Leicster, Sporting Lisbon and Arsenal.

      1. Tell me how he wasn’t lazy. One run in 25 minutes and then a cross. Didn’t fight for the ball when he came on. All those that started fought for the ball atleast, thats’ what kept us in the game. Unfortunately energy levels wen’t down after 55 minutes. Chelsea then responded by playing defensive, and we revert to possession, possesion with nothing in the end. Chamberlain need to use power to get through the defense, Wilshere did it two times in the second half going through the defence. Why couldn’t fresh Ox try this once.

        1. Loool.
          So chamberlain is lazy because he didn’t run through the whole chelsea squad???
          You my friend are clueless.

          1. Let me rephrase that for you. Tell me what he did that didn’t make him look lazy in the 25-30 minutes he played. He was the freshest player at 68 minutes for us.

        2. well for the first 5 minutes (after the ox came on ) i noticed, the ball was passed on the other side. When a fresh player comes in, the team needs to get him involved ! your point of him not influencing the game is correct but it is not his fault !

          On the other hand I just do not understand, how long will we persist with Mert based on his positional awareness..costa was 1-versus-2 arsenal players and he still scores????? how is that possible? Mert just gives up? Isn’t there a defender better than Mert out there?

    1. Cesc has more assists for Chelsea than we have goals scored.

      Wenger needs to go, when will Arsenal fans wake up and see that he is the problem???

      1. Never, Arsenal fans live in the past, they think Wenger is great, He has won 3 EPLs in 18 years. This is not Blackburn or Everton or Spurs we are talking about, 3 in 18 none in the last 10. Many chances to plug the holes in the team, many transfer windows wasted. Wenger is Arsenal’s only problem. It is a shame that half the fans dont see this.

    1. All this ‘Ozil not playing in his favoured position’ and ‘He’s a CAM so he doesn’t have to defend’ is utter BS… Oscar wasn’t that great in the final third this game, but he got MOTM. Why? Because he was all over the pitch making tackles that a DM/CB should be making, because he gave our midfield no space to make passes. Work ethic is a big component in a football player, he can be world class but if he has a sh*te attitude to the game he’s better off not playing. Berbatov is a great example. Mesut has to pick himself up, get off Facebook, hit the gym and ask Alexis for a few tips. Alexis played poorly by his standards, and yet he was the one chasing down Chelsea’s midfield to stop them having an easy ride.

      1. I honestly dont care about all that im not going to demand ozil to do whats not in his locker.
        Just f*cking run through the whole squad, make those electrics runs in behind and play those through the eye of a needle passes like he used to do at madrid and germany.

      2. @Wazzimbo
        Spot the f**k on dude. Sanchez was trying to do the same for us, but the rest of the squad are just not up to it and it pizz’s me off to no end.
        Here’s the difference between us and them. AW says”go out there and do this” most of our guys just go out there. Mour says”go out there and do this” his guys go out there and “do it”…

  4. One look at the players we had 10 years ago compared to what we have today it is evident that we have gone backwards.
    Ozil is so bad it is embarrasing to watch and wenger continues to play him just out of stubborness to try and prove that he did nit throw 42 mill down the drain.
    Still no proper DM.
    Still one single game plan.
    Wenger has been given too much power at Arsenal and we will never move forward until he retires because thats what it will take as he will never leave AFC and the owners will never get rid of him.
    Did we even have any shots on target today?

    1. Wenger has the best job in the world. No matter how much he screws up, his pay just increases and increases. Like you said he’ll never be fired.

  5. There was one on the pitch and it was Hazard. Costa and Fabregas were average part from the meaningless second goal.

    Lack of signings during the summer and insane referee cost us the match. Blatant hand ball by Fabregas and red card challenge by Cahill cost it.

    1. Unless we actually had Falcao in mind I doubt any signings we realistically had a chance of getting were going to affect this game. It was two simple mistakes and 0 creativity that cost us, sounds more like a lack on tactical ingenuity from the manager’s part.

      1. Well, Hazard – a tricky left winger showed us what kind of player we have been needing since.. God knows when. That for starters.

        A centre back was needed, preferrably a better one than Koscielny or Mertesacker. What I’ve seen Manolas so far, he’s solid. He would’ve been much better than Per. If you look at the 2 goals conceded, our centre backs are right at fault for them. In the first Per didn’t close in on Hazard, he should’ve fouled him when he was outside the box. Kosc just stood there and fouled.

        No need to even say anything about the second goal.

        1. We were never going to get a CB that would replace Mertesacker… let’s be serious. A winger was also never going to come after the purchase of Alexis. Our current crop of players have the ability to get at least a draw out of this game, but there was no fight, no belief and I’m going to pin that down to Arsene.

          1. Dude why can’t we replace Mert? I mean the guy is good but in counter attacks he gets found out- can u believe the second goal would have been possible if it was terry and Cahill, they would have bullied the striker away ! Fabregas and costa made it look really great but it was a case of poor poor defending from arsenal !

            We really need to think which of these current crop is good enough to be in the first team. for me Mert has to be the 3rd choice!

            1. I’m not saying we shouldn’t, I’m saying we wont because Wenger admires Per as shown by his selection of vice captaincy. I still stand by the lack of tactical creativity on Wenger’s part in these big games. Mind you it’s still way to early to be judging, we were destroying teams at this point up until November/December. Expectations are low for this season as per, we are still not at the level of City, Chelsea, Real, Barce, Atletico, Bayern etc. far from it, I’d see retention of the FA Cup and 3rd place as a decent finish.

    2. Lets not blame the ref ffs.
      Kos should have gone but didnt.
      Chambers could have gone but didnt.
      We were just outclassed, i say outclassed because we had a solid gameplan, played well yet still lost 2-0.

      1. We were outclassed but the ref was at fault as well – big time. Chambers’ first yellow was never one if Cahill gets away with his challenge without sending off.

        And the hand ball? How the hell the ref gave a corner but NOT a penalty? It doesn’t make any sense. He blocked the shot FFS!

        IMO our best chance was bobbled by Wilshere in the first half. I just wish we would’ve had Ramsey on the pitch instead of Jack. Even Cazorla playing the CM role could’ve been good.

        1. Because it was close and cescs hand were in a natural position.
          Come on you know those rarely get given its like crying for a penalty when a player is grabbed in a corner kick.

          Only mistakes i saw from the ref was not sending off koscielny, cahill and welbeck.
          Also he let chambers and oscar get away with alot. Other than that he was decent.

        2. There will always be ifs and buts– but we need to start winning with the 11 we have. Against top teams chances are at a premium and Jack should have nailed it..generally he is very good in those positions. Surprising how Welbeck did not even get a sniff in!

          What is the reason behind Chelsea’s defence, year after year they continue to be the meanest defence !

  6. We seriously need a change of ideas and tactic. We need more aggression in our attack. We never looked like winning the game at all.

  7. Long life Wenger … Mourinho knows far better than you …
    3 more years of disappointment

  8. after galata game i said to drop ozil and get thumbed down. Ozil bring 30m and leave yesterday from arsenal.

    1. who cares. Mourinho got the 3 points in the end and thats all that matters. Everything else is just nonsense. At the end of the day Mou proved again hes a way better manager

      1. 3 points at home. All they did was clear the ball for most of the game. We should have had a penalty as well. 1-1 and would have been a different game but they allowed Cesc to slide in with his arms extended. Arsene has done wonders for Arsenal he just doesn’t want to spend the money required to win the league. He scouted Hazard ready for the purchase but the player wanted the going rate that City Chelsea and MU can give.

        1. Need to stop giving these excuses for Wenger…name one player in the last 2 yrs who have signed from other clubs and have improved.
          Look at gervino and all the problems with Wenger will be clear..I think we have still not come out of the invincible nostalgia..Wenger has lived off that for too long

        2. all they did was clear the ball? And score twice against us and keep a clean sheet. Your complaining bout the ref, who yah, did make some bad decisions, but we also created very few chances and couldnt finish off the few chances we had. The fault is on players and manager…. mostly manager yet again

    2. Thought Wenger was the cool,calm type.The only thing Mourinho understands is defeat on the field.Something,that Wenger hasnt done in a long time!

  9. Chamberlain should have started probably, ozil lost the ball far too many times as he was played on the wings.

    1. Are you serious dude? Chamberlain when he came on looked like he already played 70 minutes. He only made one run with the ball since he came on the field, that was right after 2-0.

  10. Arsenal dressing room post game.
    Wenger: Yeahhhh….. We did it boys! High fives all around. We didn’t lose 6-0.
    Koscielny: boss we didn’t even lose 3-0. Half bad
    Pododlski: yeehaw….wooohoooo…..ahaa

    1. @nicolaile
      We lost because they dug the f**k in and fought. AW got the team selection WRONG. Simple as…

  11. well played arsenal
    _cahill red card
    _still final third missing
    -mert is too slow
    -flamini dm lol
    -wilshe well played
    -alexis had some good run
    -pod played well
    -chelshiitttttt is always chelshiittt
    -jon champion u r dumba****,

  12. Today, I have ceased being being an Arsenal fan. I’ll be back when Wenger is gone. Meanwhile I’ll be backing Man City for the title.

    1. Who are the delusional a*holes who are thumbing the truth down? As of my writing 5 complete idiots thumbed you down. They actually think Wenger is better than Mourinho!
      Wake the f*uck up! Mourinho has won everything with Porto, Inter, Real, Chelsea in the last 10 years, Arsene has an FA cup from last year. You can not compare the two.

  13. Much better how? Man we lost, you only say that we where much better because chelsea raped us last season, tactical ineptitude wont get us far, with wenger we only win against crap teams and tottenham. I can’t understand why wenger decided to play that awfull 4-3-3 formation AGAIN. We raped gala playing the 4-2-3-1

    Did wenger knows something about football?

  14. Wenger clearly doesn’t have a plan when it comes to the big games anymore. Makes me wonder if his previous successes was down to the players we had taking the game into their own hands as opposed to him.

  15. We can now leave dream land and admit we’re just not good enough yet. Hazard would have been taken out by lets say a londogbia before he reached the box but wenger didnt want to act early enough in the window. Flamini nearly scored another own goal.
    Same old same old.

  16. costa was quite throughout the game, but one chance he got and he scored. Clinical finisher. What a buy for any team.

    1. its not like any chances were even created for Welbeck though. Wenger took our best creator, Cazorla off just when we were growing into the game. Good call Arsene if he was attempting to lose.

    1. Hey RVP,
      Ozil was very great today. I believe you now. He is better than Cesc fabregas…..hahahahaha

      1. I’m an Arsenal fan. You seem to be a Chelsea fan. Glad the loss makes you so happy.

        PS: Ozil starts two games in the middle this season and stats from those two games – 2 assists and 1 goal. I’m guessing Ozil is fine and the issue seems to be elsewhere.

          1. If you don’t have an excuse then why persist? I mean honestly, you must have been here when Arshavin suffered exactly the same, and then Podolski and Cazorla.

            If you can say that Cesc would do better than Ozil in a wide position then fair enough but I don’t ever remember him being played out of position in a big game before he left for Barcelona.

            But then again you must be on of the happiest Arsenal fans around today.

            1. If you’ve suffered a lot of moody, dull, irritable days from Arsenal defeats in the past 9 years, eventually you (I in this case) develop a way to deal with it. The pain is no more pain for me. 🙂
              Arsenal have over-killed the emotion of feeling hurt. I am just numb now…lol.
              Basically, I am dead to feeling bad about Arsenal defeats.

    1. Its easier than you think? Its hard to watch the ball and follow a player with movement like Costa. Movement like that cannot be taught!

  17. Ozil should have gone off, while Cazorla should have stayed.
    This clearly caused us the game.
    I’m not surprised though.
    Last season too he did the same.

  18. Honourable loss.

    Flamini was better than usual today, no suprise he dint get booked..

    Mou is a cunnt.

  19. They win because their players know what their manager want them to do on the field. Our manager just tell our players go out and enjoy your game, that the different.

    1. did Welbeck even have one good chance created for him, no? He’s a 16mill striker. He’s not the next Henry as ppl like the think. Good player, but some ppl expect too much of him after only a handful of matches.

  20. Jack, Santi, Mesut, Per, Kos, Welbeck and Sanchez was sh*t.

    Brilliant tactics, poorly executed.

    For all the sh*t Flamini gets, he was superb as well as Chambers.

    1. Brilliant tactis? Your are stupid or what? Lining that players instead of two pure wingers was wengers decisition.

      1. You need to get your head out of your ar*e and stop talking trash.
        Take a suggestion, Watch the match instead of commenting on justarsenal(dot)com while the match is on. Than maybe next time you will have a better idea and not the Herd Mentality.

        1. Tactics sucked. Red is right. You should get your head out of Wenger’s ASS. Two DM’s and two wingers that is how we should have played. By keeping Jack in CAM and Ozil on the wing Wenger killed the game.

          Look if you dont want Ozil to play for whatever reason, I understand, sit him on the bench and play Cazorla as CAM instead. JAck WIlshire is not good enough to be our CAM and this season for some f*cking reason the old fool seems to think so.

          Jack and Flamini to hold the midfield and Ozil or Santi as CAM , Ox and Sanchez wingers that is the inly way to play Chelsea.

  21. dont delude yourselves…pathetic, unambitious, tactically inept, …played liked we expected to lose….just 11 folks running around,…sickened by the performance..the talent is there…at the end of this season i will make my call on AW..after 18 years of supporting him…i am at the end of my thread with him. bloody gutted by this….cos we didn’t deserve to lose…we didn’t deserve to win either

  22. Arsenal did well , but we cant beat them this way , we must play with them like themselfs ,dirty ,
    But dosent matter ,lets focuse our next game
    Even city didnt beat chelsea

    1. i thought we did decent today. We didnt get thrashed because we played dirty for most of the match as well. But towards the end the ol’ Chelsea bus did a full stop and we reverted back to useless posesion while Chelsea waited for counter. I still think our EVerton, Leicester matches were much much worse.

  23. arsenalmuch better??? which bloody game was you watching were still rubbish 1 shot on target in which happend on 90trh min. im fed up with this crap wenger needs to step down end of the season we need new face new ideas

    1. you gotta admit, we looked better on defense. Not even sure if Chelsea had that many targets on goal…

      but you’re right, overall we did not play well. and something has gotta give. and that something might be Wenger.

  24. We just need to face facts that Chelsea have the better squad and were more disciplined. Jack Wilshere was probably our best player today, he made some great runs and one two’s, we just lacked that killer instinct, although I have to hand to to Chelsea’s parking the bus tactics, worked like a charm as usual. Arsenal are always just that one or two things short of being a real threat and the only person who can rectify this is Wenger, which he has failed to do so yet for another season. No real steel in the midfield, our players were pushed over like traffic cones today and I’m sorry to say this but Mertesacker needs to go he is far too slow. That goal from Costa was shambolic defending as Mertesacker could not catch up to them even without the ball. If you look at Chelsea’s squad, they have a great balance of players with individual skill, players with great vision, and most importantly players with strength.

    1. The squad didnt make the difference. Give Wenger Chelsea’s team and Jose ours and Jose would end up winning. Mourinho>Wenger, simple

    2. @Big Gun
      Are you kidding me dude? Jack made some good runs right into a damn wall. He slows up our game and doesn’t allow for any flow whatsoever…

      1. Completely agree with you. JACK IS NOT OUR CAM. He can be ab2b or maybe work on being a DM but he should NEVER play in the number10 position. Arsenal’s Cams are Ozil, Cazorla and Rosicky and that is more than good enough.

        Today if he played Jack and Flamini as DM and b2b and had played Ozil OR Cazorla as 10 and Ox in the wings we would have been much more dangerous.

  25. I found myself slowly shaking my head when the cameras zoomed to Cazorla rather than Ozil. Nonsense.

  26. I am not even mad. You cant be victorious if the battle is decided before the game already. I am tllk about of the sense of formation and players.

    Moro, buys players and uses them to get the full potential out of them. They play and do the things they can do best.

    Arsene is someone who buys for the sole reason of him being forced to do. If he can avoid not buying players, he will not buy. He doesnt buy players of our needs but rather liks to buy players who can do a bit of everything.

    Compare these things together and realise that its no surprise that Wenger never has beaten Moro once and probably never will.

    Wenger is a failuare in the sense of him competing witht he big boys. But sucessfull in managing a 4th place team. Well done monsiour.

  27. Chelsea i must say and hate to admit have the cutting edge over us! We were simply outclassed today by a far better side!

    1. I think Sanchez and chambers diid well but that our problem , if the others played with the same passion we might win more games

  28. Wenger now rowing with Rui Faria. Steve Bould then tells Mourinho’s assistant to ‘shut your f****** gob’

    that’s one battle where we will win 4 sure + wenger would easily take out maureen

  29. kkkkkkk you guys and your emotions hahahaha….I feel home with you guys…Gooners till we die, even after Wenger hehehehe!

      1. I’m sorry but that is bull. Defeats hurt Wenger more than almost anyone else I’d say. All the hate towards him today is just ridiculous, he finally got his tactics right in a big game and even held his own against Maureen on the sideline. We have big players signing for the club again, our key players aren’t leaving every summer the way they used to, our first league loss of the season came seven games in and was away to the probable champions. Stop the Wenger hate, he’s not doing a bad job.

        1. In what world did Wenger get his tactics right? He played Jack as CAM, Cazorla as b2b and Ozil as a Winger. This type of sh*t doesnt work on good teams, it might not even work on mediocre ones.

          Ozil or Cazorla is our CAM, Jack is a fighter in b2b or DM and Ox is our winger. How f*cking difficult is that to understand?

  30. *yawwwnn* why is everyone moaning? What did you expect to happen lol. It’s Chelsea, the best team in the EPL right now. We actually played a decent game. Chelsea plays great compact football and that shuts us down all the time. We play a passing game but whenever we had the ball we were closed down immediately. What did you expect seriously? i’m happy we didn’t get humiliated

  31. Guys it’s the same old same old
    Ozil awful and stays on for 90 mins, wenger lat subs and nothing different
    Mert not good enough
    Ozil sell him and buy a top DM something isn’t right with him
    I would forgive players if they gave 100% not all of them do
    Man utd are poor and they are above us
    Everyone knows our problems, wenger did us proud but now it’s time for a change, and if you don’t want Europa football next year I suggest you make your feelings known at the next few games

  32. Fabregas: I will pay to leave Arsenal! Captain offers to give up £4m in bonuses to force Barca move
    wi*p better terry is in da house……………

  33. Could’ve been much worse for us though. Kos, chambers and welbeck could’ve been sent off leaving us with only eight men.

  34. we were shite! compared to them…no plan, nothing…giving up on you AW….after 18 yrs..maybe just go do something else…

  35. 20 odd games and counting, the muppet “manager” has failed against the “special” quality counterpart across the dugout. I predict an even longer period if ever for the stranglehold to be broken. Better yet, #wengerout! Even the players deep down generally seem to call the bluff of the manager thinking this group can compete at the top end. Ludicrous! #wengerout

  36. #FACK AW & #ozil how dear #aw said we didn’t need cesc we have #ozil what #ozil is really doing to b better than cesc !! #FACK u #ozil ur a waste

        1. Ozil would play for Chelsea and do the things he does best and you would babble the same sh$t all over again

    1. Well, John Champion summed it up perfectly at the conclusion of the game: ” it’s debatable if Arsenal still resonate as a big club anymore, what is without debate however is that more recently the often fail to win the big games”.

      Make whatever you want of him, he’s spot on! Courtesy, the muppet manager.

  37. Zero penetration from us exactly why Chelsea signed cesc and scezney stuck in no mans land for the 2nd. I’d rather wenger moved upstairs and gave a new manager a chance fresh ideas fresh tactics and so on

  38. To people who want AW out, it’s not going to happen. Wenger just won the FA cup and Arsenal are financially stable. Even if we didn’t make the top 4 and didn’t win a trophy this season, the board would not let him go and he will not quit.

    You are wasting your energy by calling for him to go.

    1. Wilshere was by far our best player against city and was quality today. Just because you hate wilshere or ozil or anybody you can’t blame them when we lose, especially when they actually play well. Chelsea are just a class above us and every other pl team this year and we just have to deal with it.

  39. Those said wilshere is good is blind. The first 30 mins he was shi*. You can run around like a fool the whole match but don’t have the quality to break a defence and shot on goal, you are still shi*.

    1. Well if he was solid sh*t, then the rest were watery sh*t. Still sh*t is sh*t but if I were forced to have one thrown at me or die, I think the solid sh*t would make the better choice.
      Wait…..let me think about that one again. (Scratches head)

  40. Positives: We played much better against the parked bus of Chelsea, Wilshere looked very good, Flamini had a surprisingly good game, If that had been at the Emirates I believe we’d have won, we got no injuries also, all our players had a good game apart from a certain German.

    Negatives: Time and time again we are killed by refs In the prem, Ozil is useless, we still cannot get a result against a big team, Mourinho has not caught Ebola yet.

  41. When I saw carsola coming off it was then I knew wenger is past it. Wtf did ozil do in this game. Hate him all you want but flamini was the only player geting in their face. And he played damn well. I can’t criticise koscielny because had it not being wilsher giving the ball away that ball wouldn’t have gone through. And gibbs for the first time in the big match he was rock solid. I thought chambers played well some players would have been sent off. But he needs to cut off those needless fouls. Chelsea had only 3 shots on target converted 2 while we were busy playing around too many passes. Am I upset about the result? no I am not. And the only negative is wenger he changes a Winning formation to rubbish one. Positive :gibbs, carsola,sanchez,chambers and flamini the rest was soooooo average.
    And again szecszny nearly cost us a Goal. Why can’t wenger play ospina.

  42. Wilshere is hard working but when he is on the field, our offensive look so bad. Maybe by playing him offen, he may excel but when? Do we need to wait for another 10 years?

    1. It’s not that, in fact Wilshere was really the only one next to Sanchez that actually looked dangerous near their box. Chelsea just defended really well and didn’t give us an inch. No matter what team we fielded today, I think Chelsea would have had the upper hand regardless because as many have said, they have a player that specializes in each preferred position, where as Arsenal have many players that can play all over the pitch, but don’t really have much impact. Just look at the subs they had, Mikel, Willian etc…two players that are very technical on the ball, but very disciplined defensively which ultimately killed the game for us choking us even further. When it comes down to tactics, as much as I despise him, Jose has got it nailed, especially against someone like Wenger who is extremely predictable.

  43. Wenger should Forget about building a team to win the Premier or Champions league…suggest just freakin build a team to beat chelshit home and away and the rest will follow!

  44. To all the fickle fans saying Ozil is useless and how Fabregas is better, what exactly did you want Ozil to do against this Chelsea team? Please explain yourselves and make me understand how your mind works. It’s like it was Ozil vs Chelsea to you all. Do you not see how we had no space for anything and how we were closed down EVERYWHERE? One Arsenal player has the ball and two Chelsea player rush in and close him down. So please enlighten me on how Ozil should have done better. When he had the chance to make a clean pass to create an opportunity he did but Chelsea is simply SOLID as a team. Get that through your heads for Christ sake! I even saw a comment saying Ozil is too weak he should eat more and hit the gym.. Please tell me about this CAM in the world that’s a tall heavyweight? Please tell me and let’s collect funds and sign him up.. Jesus Christ, fellow gunners just piss me off sometimes

    1. remove your blindfold and you will not require someone else to tell you what the problem is! a world class cam is supposed to unlock defences, and not take the ball to a corner and play dribble-dribble but I agree that our problems are far bigger than ozil’s form. Somehow even with all the attacking talents, I don’t see any kind of co-ordination in this team !

    2. All the other players tried to win the ball when they lost it.. The put in a shift..Oscar from chealsea put in a shift… Ozil did not.. 2/3 times he lost the ball on the edge of there box..trying to pass when he was clear tot take a shot at goal.
      He his made to look poorer playing on the wings as the opposition knows he is not going to take them on and outpace..soncuts back in always and looses the ball too often….at least in the middle he has the option to go eitherways..
      Others did not cost 42m

  45. this is why pundits hates us cause we say we are a big team but finds it extremely difficult to beat the top 6, even man u in their worst situation we still didn’t win them both home and away.

  46. Agree with some that although I’d rather have fabregas than ozil..
    It’s not a fabregas or ozil that we are lacking or will win us the league..
    It’s a new manager that can change and adapt with situations instead of sticking with rigid outdated systems philosophies whatever..
    A structural overhaul is what we need from bottom to board to manager and player ..
    Granted we do need stronger players in midfield and proper defenders .. But like many have said on here the problems lie behind the scenes..

  47. We just need a real coach, if not I don’t see we will great again. Can wenger make up his mind who is the no.10, don’t he know too many cook spoil the food.

  48. I think we should play 2 upfront however our players are not suited to a formation of that kind, we’d have to play like this:

    Szszcesny
    Debuchy Mert Kos Gibbs
    Ramsey Wilshere
    Sanchez Ozil
    Walcott Welbeck

    It just wouldn’t work for the majority of our players however Theo and Welbz would bang the goals in.

  49. Why is it that anytime we loose a game, the next thing from some ppl is ” wenger go” its not fair. This is football, u win some and u loose some. This is a very bad habit. We played very well in dis game. Can we blame wenger for Kosheny error for d harzard penalty? No! Can we blame wenger for purchasing Ozil for £42 m and no good performance against chelsea? No! Etc. Chelsea under MOU beats us, fine! Wenger also has some teams he always beat. Let’s take it the way it comes. Up gunners.

    1. From your handle I can see you are very royal but use your brain and eye not your heart to see what is the real problem arsenal face now is WENGER. If you want to play offensive, you should put your actual no.10 in the middle with wings, if defensive than, oh we didn’t have a quality defensive player. After 18 years in the helm you are still trying out your formations. How long is that cun* manage and you can see how he managed. They win but that cun* still not happy cos he aim high not 4th. Did you see his face when Costa miss the last goal even he is off side..

  50. Read a report on BBC Sport that the Metro are reporting we’ve agreed personal terms with Khedira for January, all that now needs to be agreed is a fee with Real Madrid. I can believe this because I can understand Real wanting to get some money for him rather than risking loosing him for free but then again there was so many rumours in the summer saying it was a done deal when it wasn’t, I hope it’s true he’d be a great solid DM I just hope he wouldn’t get injured as much as he has in the past.

  51. The frustrating thing is Chelsea weren’t at their best today so could have been beaten. A better cb rhan per, quick subs of Jack and ozil for ox and rosicky, poldi on at the end who knows. Wengers lack of tactics cost us again. Largely proud of the players if we know the misgivings they surely do too, must be frustrating for them.

    1. Perhaps it was a case of us not letting them be “at their best”. Overall I think we did OK but still not good enough. I think they were well aware of the threat of us counter attacking with sanchez and welbeck so could not push as many players forward.

  52. The simple truth is only 1 Arsenal player that’s Sanchez would of gotten in Chelsea’s 11 today over Schurrle.
    That sums it up Chelsea are better on paper and showed it in the game we are miles behind them and Wenger is also a problem.

    1. Chelsea wasnt that much better than us honestly. Wenger is just stupid and killed the game with horrible subs, and again not the right lineup. Tactically much better though until the end of the match where we went back to useless passing.

    2. No player will play well if there is no fairness in the team. How much poor player Campbell must be to not get a decent looking this team.
      It they are not played gainst the lesser teams and are brought in when the game is dead then there is no bench…

  53. We just look like Chelsea 12+ yrs ago good side but not great. Some good players and one or two very talented but old players.
    Chelsea are Arsenal 12+ yrs ago strong in every position, great bench, amazing defence! power mid-field, and up front well!
    12yrs on and we have some very good player that could light up the Prem, if only Wenger would complement them with DM’s, CB’s and W/striker. But not in Wenger’s world. Very very sad. Especially when we have the money to do it!
    Klop!

    1. Perhaps true, but Chelsea have achieved their success because they are a billionaires toy. Arsenal have built a Stadium to ensure long term income. When Abramovich decides to sell Chelsea they will most likely be bought with money borrowed against the clubs assets as ManU but without the income stream that ManU has.

      Chelsea’s success is dependant on the whim of a billionaire, not the money from the fans, it could all disappear very quickly

      1. If you want to counter argument please use some sense. Yes Chelsea got money spend on players and depth for the squad but we do got qualities on our team but we just don’t have a good manager. Periods. Chelsea don’t play good today but why they still win that the question mark. Wenger just don’t know what he want for the team. He just come out the 11 and tell them enjoy their play. Our final 3rd was horrible, just one stupid taken free kick by wilshere that lead to 1st goal that kill the game start for us.

      2. Could! When!
        We have money but fail to use it and when Wenger does it’s never used in area we are desperately shot. He could address those area without making us bankrupt. He just to tight and stubborn.
        You are right with your points, but we do have the money now.

        1. My comment was about Chelsea not Arsenal. I agree Wenger seems to be only partially addressing our weaknesses and seems to buy some players as last minute buys because they are available like Ozil and Welbeck rather than to a plan. At the start of the transfer window we seemed to have a plan, buying sanchez and debuchy. But then there was no movement on DM, world class striker and replacement for Verm. Welbeck was bought as a last minute panic buy.

          Contrast that with Chelsea who had a plan for who they needed and implemented it. I have read that Maureen went to see Fabregas to pursuade him to go to Chelsea. They now have Costa who is way ahead in the goals table and Fabregas who is also way ahead in the assists table. So much for needing time to adjust to a new team and in the case of costa to a new league.

          Welbeck could be a really good buy, i think that the threat of his pace (and sanchez) curtailed chelsea in terms of their players going forward.

  54. The only good thing about this game was that we did not get hammered, so hopefully there will be no major loss in confidence affecting subsequent games. First goal was individual brilliance, second goal came when we were pushing forward.

  55. Ozil inconsistent is Bcos wenger keep changing the no.10. Wenger had to make up his.mind on these if not we will see this results very often.

    1. Finally some real talk. Chelsea win cos they got a balance team. They don’t play great today but everyone steak to their manager task and win. No matter how we hate them but that a championship quality.

    2. we could have messi we’d still lose today because Mourinho knows how to manage his team and gives them all a defined task. it looks like Wenger did do more thinking with this match, but overall he just picks a lineup and tells them to go out and play. will never win the league like that anymore.

  56. How can wenger change a winning team.

    Why did he not stick with the team that beat gala? He prefer to stick with team that draw, rather than the team that win.

    1. Yes that is what I think also. Wilshere shouldn’t start the game. His 1st half was shi*. The 1st goal was because of him. Some of fans just like to see players run around but without quality products.

  57. at january we will hopefully, FINALLY be a COMPLETE team- with a real dm and maybe cb. after that if we will lose we should complain. right now we are a very, very good team but also a team with some new players who need to adapt and a meneger who need to decide whos going to be the cam.

    and one more thing- chambers is a BEAST.

  58. I say forget Chelsea now and the fact they are 9 points ahead of us now. There is nothing we can do to influence their outcome except for the return fixture.
    Man City are only 4 points ahead of us and should be our target. It’s early days and the tables still tight. We do however need to start clicking very soon, it’s been a sluggish start.
    Wenger please choose your formations more carefully especially when Walcott and Gnabry return to the fray very soon.
    Come January a WC CB and a young combative DM player please 🙂

  59. Now only two top 7 left. ManU and Pool.
    So 10 very winnable games.

    Everton+Spurs+City+Chelsea=3 points.

    This year we are much better than last year against the top team with our crisis injury list.

    Our displays against all the teams were very brave.

    Yes we lost and technically this is the time to moan and complain but there are plenty of positives.

    For starters-
    Walcott will be back Bit*hes with out any pressure to play him. And than Rambo.

    Come on b*tches happy times ahead.

    1. See! who said I’m the only one in a jolly mood!!
      (In silent whispers and shaking my head: I am not. Maybe only this guy is. I don’t know what the F**k he’s talking about….haha. Trust me, I feel the same way you do. 😉 …)

      cough…cough, btw you’re right Sumo. Rock on Bit*hes. Yeahh…bring it on. 😀

      1. May be i should moan too.
        May all the fans should boo our players cause we didn’t win against Chelsea.
        There should be “Sack Pardew” type environment in our club too.
        No? 😉 😉 😉

        1. you’re right Sumo. Rock on Bit*hes! Yeahhh….bring it on!!! 😉
          I’m on your side dude. 😀
          Haha

          1. O yes. Thank you for being on my side. 😉
            I was feeling so lonely. 🙁
            Now instead of being on my side why don’t you come in front, get on your knees and blow me. 🙂

    1. For me Chelsea cos that cun* manager face make you hate him so much but on a professional opinion he is really good tactician that make you feel more worst. Wenger had been spoiling my weekend.

  60. why is ozil made to be a scapegoat every bloody game game we have ???? yes he played rubbish be put him to one side for a blimmin second who else did anything note worthy? were did the chelseas goals come from ? nothing to do with ozil there and was ozil the only attacker we had? seriously soo many cluless fans the problem is bigger than ozil. ok lets say oziil was dropped and ox played well when he came on what did ox do exactly ? its like he didn’t even come on . the problem is wenger and his balance we have too many same players were a bunch of lightweight dwarfs

  61. The point to this is much bigger them us taking it again from the blues. It’s the arsenal set up. Half our team would never have a place 10 year ago at arsenal. AW will say we have players out and players copeing back. But if you can put them in the net and keep letting in ours we will never climb the epl. 9 points down after what 8 games. If he is to stay in charge then he needs a number 2 that knows what the f@k he is doing and won’t sit there saying yes sir no sir. What has gone wrong with the 1-0 to the arsenal. DM Striker BFG is a bench player if we can c this why can’t he???

  62. Fans like you also a problem to arsenal. See the root cause but don’t have courage to amend.

  63. If “Maureen” is a whore, then the muppet manager is an uattractive, skinny, witless, cluesless, hunger starved buffoon. I reckon, it feels a lot better being a “whore” and courting attention from far and near. Deal with it, life isnt fair, if it were, a clueless manager wouldnt earn so much with little to show for it whilst passionate and dedicated Arsenal supporters who grind stones for a living with meagre pay(and do a good job too), get to fork out the highest tickets in europe to see the team play.

  64. I can come out an excuse for wenger too.

    He is just starting to build the new arsenal with more English core so expect more try out of formation and failure.

    The new arsenal will only attack and attack so don’t need DM. We will start from our half passing side way than backwards till the opponent regrouped than we slowly attack by passing the ball into the net.

  65. At least one Arsenal player won today.
    Well done Carl 🙂
    #CarlJenkinson

    Off to watch a rerun of the GP now, off football today 🙁

  66. Chelski and United illustrate how important a top striker is to complete an attack. City have top strikers but are lacking in other areas. We need a Costa/Falcao/RVP type player like Cavani, Martinez, Reus, Destro, Keissling, etc. Mourinho and Van Gaal understand this but Wenger does not to our utter frustration and anger.

    Welbeck is NOT there YET. Maybe one day, but right now I would compare Giroud and Welbeck to back up strikers (very good back up strikers)

    Currently, if Wenger plays players in the right positions we can beat Citeh to 3rd place, but I suspect Chelski will get number 1 and United (especially if they strengthen defensively in January) will get 2nd

    We have a chance to change that IF Wenger gets a top striker, Khedira/Carvalho and a solid defender in January but highly unlikely to get another striker

      1. i feel like a prat screaming for wenger to buy him on here for nearly two seasons- as if it would make any difference.

  67. losing 2-0 is better thsn losing 6-0. yesh its 0 points, and them 3, but the goal difference is less and sometimes it counts.

    Poor wenger has got himself into the pisquis war of Maureen, he should justnot ayattention.

    We beat the same players thatbeat us before, back in ’12 , ut was just that Mou wasnt there. and we still got our 4th place.

    I honestly think the thing is that AW needs to be practicalm and Mou is practical.

    3 points vs EVERY other NON top 5 team GETS you a title.

  68. Wenger have been trying few option for our team and we can see what really suit our team play with the players we have. For me is the team that beat villa and gala but Wenger think differently. Maybe that team don’t have the player he love or he is still don’t know what he want.

    1. It wouldn’t have worked. We need a solid DM and the team needs to pressure the ball tenaciously.

    1. wenger is a great man – but football has changed.
      love him but want him to go-

      18 years an we have never been further from being champions league contenders.
      and as always the league is a pipe dream.

      1. But the uncomfortable question is-
        Who?

        Don’t just say Klopp. He is building his own legacy in BvB, he was first choice in ManU before LvG, yet he didn’t leave.

        1. Frankly I don’t want him out but we fans need to pressure him. Maybe he is too comfy in his helm and forget what his job for the fans.

  69. Szez 6

    Cham 5 mert 6 kos 5 gibbs 7

    Jack 7 flamini 5.5 santi 6

    Ozil 5 sanchez 6.5

    Welbeck 5.5

    Subs: ox 6 pod 5.5 rosicky 5.5

    Gibbs motm one of the few players pushing for a goal yet still defended well.

    We are so terrible off the ball its unreal! We needed to pressure the ball like cheslea did!

  70. wenger needs to be sacked after his unproveked attack on the chelsea manager . what kind of message is his attack sending out about our once wonderful club . this man is bringing us down into the gutter and he will only be happy when we are languising in the championship . how dare he behave in such a manner representing the arsenal , wenger out now !!!!!.

    1. Spot on mate, argueably should be banned from football management for bringing the game into disrepute.

  71. Why did Wenger change a winning formula we played well against Galatasaray, all he had to do is say to Flamini stay back. ITS NOT F-CKING ROCKET SIENCE.

    1. Cos wilshere is his lover boy this season. If wilshere is injury free, he will play him till he excel even when the team can’t gel.

  72. We played damn well today. Much improved on last year’s pathetic performances. I have frankly had it with Ozil though: uninterested, weak, no heart, lacking drive. Diego Costa £32M, Mesut Ozil £42M lmao. Know which i’d prefer. Ozil doesn’t have bad games in between world class ones, he just has pitiful performances non-stop. Sanchez could do to learn to pass the ball to team mates too. Praise to Wenger for shoving Mourinho though lol.

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