It may be now or never for Arsenal takeover

Although there has not been an official offer made to buy Arsenal Football Club from the major shareholder Stan Kroenke, the plans are in place, apparently. There has been on official statement from the American billionaire, but there have been murmurs from `sources` close to him that he is keen to remain at the club for the long haul.

Mr. Kroenke needs to think carefully about what he is doing, however. The valuation that this Middle Eastern consortium of investors has placed on the club, which is around double what it was just a few years ago, might make Stan think that he is doing well in charge of the Gunners. This value, however, will not last.

The Guardian newspaper reported that a source from the consortium has made it clear that the offer will have a very limited time span, and could even be affected by the failure to qualify for next season’s Champions League. That prospect is, of course, looking more likely following the bitter defeat at Tottenham yesterday.

“Arsenal is at a pivotal position at the moment. The fear is that the club is facing a cycle of decline like Liverpool. From our point of view it is the perfect moment to make this bid, because at this moment in time you can still genuinely justify this extraordinary valuation on the club.

“We will not bid for Arsenal if they go into decline. Kroenke and Usmanov will not get this kind of valuation if Arsenal do not succeed and will not get this kind of valuation ever again. We think that bidding now is the key because it is going to give every shareholder maximum value. We are giving them peak valuation.”

So it seems that Arsenal are at a crossroads. Yes the club is run well financially, and the FFP rules may help us to compete with the likes of Man City and Chelsea, but unless we start competing more in the Premier League and winning trophies, the club’s income will suffer, which will allow less money to be spent, and so on in a downward spiral. Take the money Stan, or if you don’t, start running the club as if you actually care.

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53 thoughts on “It may be now or never for Arsenal takeover

  1. Jaymo

    Can’t see this takeover happening tbh!!

    Ridiculous amount of money!

    All financial experts quoted saying basically it sounds fabricated.

    Wish it were true though cos we need some players that aren’t utter shite!!!

    Please happen please!!!

    Kroenke do one good thing as the owner and SELL!!!!!!

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  2. mohawk35

    For our sake, let’s hope it is now. Because Wenger is doing every thing he can to destroy great Arsenal football.

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  3. feverpitch

    Not a fan of Stan (who is?) but I don’t want to be a plaything for some billionaire sheikh playboy either. In my opinion it’s probably a lesser of 2 evils, either stick with the decline or sell out. make a rich yank richer, or make an even richer sheikh even more richer.

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  4. Jaymo

    Lower prices
    Better players
    Possible trophies

    What’s the downside???

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  5. LoCkAy

    Those are the numbers from Deloitte:

    1- Arsenal has a cash reserve of £123 millions.

    2- Arsenal has a debt amounting to £250 millions.

    3-We have a failed commercial policy with the same amount of partners as Reading ( 21 partners ) which is a farce knowing that Man United has 121 partners and at a lesser rate liverpool with 82… FAILURE!

    4-Arsenal and Wenger took pleasure from selling their best players. Deloitte forecasted that Arsenal will have to sell players in the next market in order to sustain his finance.

    5- We all have heard about the £70 millions in transfer output for next season. Deloitte forecasted that those numbers are wrong because there is no money for transfer unless Kroenke ( like Abramo ) injects his own cash ( the £123 millions are already tight up in debt payments and others ).

    6- Arsenal sold 18 players ( best players ) in the last few years and those players ended up winning 54 trophies ( If you want to be successful you NEED to leave ).

    7- Wenger will leave the club in chaos. Deloitte suggested that we have a wage mass of £150 millions with £24 millions being waisted on players we don’t use ( how can it be proper financial management ).

    Rough times ahead…

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  6. ButtFlaps

    We the puns need to aggregate our monies to purchase Arsenals! We no need your monies middle eats! We no want to be like Mun Chity or Cheslea!!!

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  7. leo

    i sm sorry but i would want this take over rather the club bieng in the hands of someone who will use us like a cash cow else it will be tough

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  8. leo

    @lockay that 123m in bank was based on info given 6months ago now there is more prob 140m

    the debt of 250m is not accurate either we should clear it by 2018 we pay 25m a year so how is that fig around 250 i can’t understand i thought it was around 170m

    as far as commercial deals go yeah we are poor blame it on hill-wood he is the one that kicked dein out else we would have been in better pos to spend

    we do have 70m & if we miss out on cl we will have 45m to spend

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  9. leo

    stan kroenke may have to sell because the arsenal as @lockay rightly pointed out depends heavly on match day income there are growing number of empty seats this will also lead to lack of better commercial deal their value will decrease which in turn will affect stan’s share value

    now regarding the summer transfer wenger has some targets but if he misses out he can still bring in quality howedes (6-8m)/amoerbita (free)/cabaye/waynama/villa (8m) all we could get for around 45m +joel campbell could caome back

    next season the emirates deal will be in place + 25m deal with adidas & thomas cook & several other deals will be renewed only thing left is offload the likes of denislon/bendtner (if they don’t leave let’s go after them) the likes of jovetic/gotze/hummels will have wait for one more season

    in other words future is right

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  10. AFCF

    I felt so honored that my teacher(united fan) say that he admired free flowing and fluent style of play and even say he hope Man U can be like Arsenal even though he say he was afraid of arsenal who are a force in the past but not now.When will we witness a arsenal-Manu rivalry again…

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  11. Ozzy AFC

    kROENKE SHOULD TAKE THE MONEY AND FC@K OFF HE DOES’NT GIVE A HOOT ABOUT THE CLUB APART FROM ITS FINANCIAL VALUE TO HIM PERSONALLY IF THEY DONT ACCEPT SOME KIND OF OFFER THE CLUB WILL EVENTUALLY DISSAPEAR INTO THE ETHER WITH LACK OF SUCSESS AND PROFIT AND MOST OF ALL TROPHIES…..TAKE THE MONEY STAN AND GO AWAY !!!!

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  12. leo

    ruud guilt on wenger
    I find it a mystery with Arsenal. What can they spend? Is there something to spend? It is always in the dark. I have no clue if they have money to spend on players or, if they have that money, is it available to the manager? If it isn’t, then come out with because you then protect Wenger. But if the money is there then why doesn’t he spend it?

    that’s it stan out now

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  13. leo

    LFC debts are up by £22m to £100 m + this is excatly what happens when you allow such people to run football fsg (hicks & gilett part 2)

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  14. gustafborelius

    I’m kinda torn here…of course i want us to be able to buy good players and the ticket prices are insane but then again i don’t want us to become Chelsea, psg or man city.
    that being said kroenke needs to go so if this is make or break i say we take it! COYG!

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  15. mukund

    Its time Stan thinks of his own safety if he wants to be a Arsenal stakeholder in future. The fans all over are raging and i couldnt find a single fan which would support stan. Well Arsenal would be well run and managed if run and owned by a british consortorium along with Mr.Usmanvo. For sure Arab consortorium will bring money but we let that be second choice after the above one.

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  16. Anna Mary

    Well frankly speaking the takeover is not gonna happen. It was just a fabricated story by the Brit press.

    We have the cash to buy top quality players. Lets get them this summer. Wenger needs to clear his head & the Board needs to go.

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  17. Le Prof

    its not e defense bt e manager,i bet any of e manchesters wld lye to hv veminator at their back,even barca,liverpool wld luv to hv LOLO,mny teams wld wan a hv PER as a cover o its e manager

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  18. NIKK

    Wenger needs to go takeover or no takeover!

    Even if he buys quality in summer, we will still struggle to win anything because no proper coaching,planning nor tactical
    thinking goes on at the club while he is in charge!

    And above all he has lost that stomach for a fight…defeats are now acceptable, his loosing mentality has deeply infected the whole club.

    Re takeover a serious buyer would not openly discuss the takeover with some journalist nor would disclose his bargaining position to a seller in advance!

    Sounds like horse meat to me!

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  19. Somtee

    Takeover now but guys I was listening to a radiostation during the Bayern game at that time it was 2-0 when a caller called in and said he was no longer watching the game because Arsenal wasn’t the arsenal of before I first thought he was a fan that supports the team only when we win a game but later he said he was so emotional that he no longer wanted to watch the game and said at that present time he had tears in his eyes.I certainly felt bad for the guy and you will all agree with me that if this takeover does come now only God knows what will happen next season I hope we don’t end up like Liverpool COYG!!!

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  20. topgunner

    If something good doesnt happen immediately then we are liverpool in the making..

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  21. nickw

    If this deal were genuine, which I doubt then Stan would be a fool not to take it. We are in a downward spiral as revenues will be severely affected next season and unless there is some serious investment I can’t see that changing. Mediocre mid table teams with no ambition are not attractive to sponsors or fans, ultimately that will hit the share price and profits. You don’t have to be a financial whizz kid to see this, so if it is true and I pray it is then as I said before Stan would be a fool to pass it up. Unless he’s just hell bent on destroying this once great club and throwing his money away, in which case he should just carry on as he’s doing.

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  22. AmericanGooner

    I think its a fake created by Kroenke to drive up Usmanov’s price per share. Kroenke I think is growing tired of us hating his guts and may want out. Usmanov could have made him an offer, fabricate a mystery bid to raise price.

    Kroenke knows how to negotiate so this is what I think it is.

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  23. Jo

    Off topic i know, but Bandtner is pon his way back after Juventus give him the boot because off drinkdriving…

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  24. ScottyRSA

    I dont care about how well the club is run etc etc , all i care about is the way the team plays and that the trophies start coming back to our cabinet, so for me, bring on the take over!! f@#$ all the financial self sustaining bull sh!t

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  25. US4rsenal

    Hell no!!
    AFC is a footballing club with a lot of history. A club with sound footballing principles which most of us are proud of and rate it very highly
    We have been wining things our own way and we can do it again the way we used to do it.
    Hell no sugar daddy’s money!!
    For me it is tough to accept Arsenal losing its value and prestige for the sake of a fat sugar daddy.
    Some fans may be happy to see that happen. I think it’s too late to work for us as the FFP will be in effect very shortly and there will not be a cash infusion from any owner that makes even things worst.

    That may have worked with Chelski and Mancity but no to Arsenal. Look at how German clubs and Barcelona run. The best foundation they have made them even stronger, not sugar daddy’s money. Arsenal is on that route and we do not need to detour just for a cheap success.
    Our value worth much more than a trophy!
    We have to start spending on some quality players, we have to keep our best legs and win a trophy beautifully our own way.
    Quality is what we are made up of! I believe we are one of very few clubs in England who can sustainably live within their own means and Arsen Wenger is one of very few managers who is capable of delivering success with limited means.

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  26. skelator

    just think if the 66% owned by stan is worth £1.5 billion then how much is the rest of the shares worth on that valuation club could be worth maybe near to £2 billion in value and we are in decline we think that’s the problem with buying arsenal the value of the club totally outweighs the debt so to buy the club would cost the earth and you need to pump in another 250 maybe 350 million (taking into account the fines and penalties need to pay back for breaking the bonds earlier. that would be pushing on over £ 2 billion invested before you get started on player investment that’s a lot for any new investors to fork out just to buy in and get up and running for next season or maybe the new owner could just use the profit to refit the squad as the debt would be payed all profit would be back into team and the owners could in future take a small percent of profits in future as repayment so they make something back on the club. and wont break ffp rules as the profit will be paying for transfers and wages plus and any future profit would balance up the money payed in over the next three years and as they paid the debt off that is apart of the investment in to buying the club so that is ok lets hope it all pans out well the club will outlive this short term problem and hit the top again maybe with or without wenger that’s up to him.

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  27. caribgooner

    I just hope that this is true…but let me also state that we can have all the good players in the world that if we start with the worse players that am sorry but not even Bill Gates can save us…As to how Ramsey make a team before Pod is truly a mystery…In Wengers head the world must still be flat

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  28. Ozzy AFC

    @USAArsenal and others….regardless of what we want or dont want the fact remains that without major investment and some kind of change regarding the managerial process, Arsenal Football club will be a spent force in less than five years.
    FFP is a toothless dog that will never bite, the owners of all the highly financed clubs are clever and have the best brains moiney can buy in order to circumnavigate the proposed FFP rules. I love the tradiaiton of AFC and am proud to have supported the clube for 37 years howver tradiation does’nt win trophies and to bang on about “loosing our tradiation values” is Bullshit . we will if we carry on down the current route have nothing left of our tradition and at anyrate just becuase we traditionally transported everything around the country by horse and cart that does’nt mean we should or could do it now.
    As it stands if someone does’nt buy out the current board or at the very least inject a very large amount of cash into the club to allow stan and Ivan to take thier regular bung then we are doomed!!!!! Anyone on this site who believes that Kroneke and the board have the best interests of the club at heart are either bloody stupid or mentally unstable. Look at what Stan is doing to every other sports club he owns, running them into the ground and destroying them in order to buy a huge ranch in Montana. the situation is as dire as it can get and wont get any better till the board and possibly Wenger are removed. Anyone who feels different is either a mug or knows nothing about being an Arsenal fan.

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  29. Arsenal Hug

    No Arsenal fan likes what the club is going through, I am disappointed with our in consistence too. Our club has just turned a financial corner and the future looks bright. Wenger now has money to strengthen the team and we will soon begin winning trophies.

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  30. Big Gun

    There is so much disinformation going around, who knows what to believe anymore these days. First of all, we were all told that debt would be paid off by next year. I heard the other day that our debt was finally paid off and we can start investing into the transfer market and change the wage structure. Now there some saying we are still a couple of hundred million debt, payable off by 2018. So what is the truth? I’m just fed up with all the lies and rumours flying around, and I’m sick and tired of Kroenke’s lack of investment and Wenger’s lack of everything a manager should be. Both of them can f*ck of in my opinion, I’ve had enough.

    Bring on the Arabs, I really don’t give a rats arse who owns Arsenal anymore. As long as they reduce ticket prices, buy better players AND KEEP OUR BEST players, the owner is immaterial. Arsenal need to start winning trophies again and the only way we can do that is by bringing in better players. The only way we can bring in better players at this moment in time is by offering them wages they cannot refuse. CL football is a must too. The only way we can offer better wages is if we have someone like Usmanov or these Arabs pumping money into the squad. Unfortunately fellow gooners, it has come to this where we need to rely on serious outside investment to get to where we once were back in 03. Under Kroenke, Arsenal will become a mid table team if we are lucky and it will be IMPOSSIBLE to get us back to being a top team. LET US DO SOMETHING BEFORE THIS CAN HAPPEN. BANNERS AT THE NEXT GAME SHOWING OUR DISSATISFACTION WITH KROENKE. IF YOU DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO DO SO, THEN DON’T GO TO THE GAMES. THIS A BOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR CLUB, THE ONE WE HAVE SUPPORTED LOYALLY ALL OUR LIVES AND WOULD BE DAMNED BEFORE WE LET KROENKE ROT IT FURTHER. FANS IN ENGLAND, WE ARE RELYING ON YOU. DO SOMETHING FFS!!!

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  31. TITANIUM

    wenger, the board and stan need a kick up the backsides.. how many times have the fans been asking for reinforcement of our deplited team? they have shown no care.. making money seems more important than football.. if i am paying twice as much on my season ticket than a spud’s fan than i expect more from our club..

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  32. Wiltordsleftpeg

    If this takeover is to happen then were do we go from here. Do we start again with 7 or 8 new signings or just add a few so called decent bargain bin players with is the more likely out come. Plus if we are taken over all our targets will just become overpriced and get overpaid its becoming harder to weigh up the pros and cons off this story. But my heart would like to see the yank leave ASAP an us challenge for silver wear again Cyog

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  33. Gigi

    After yesterday..let is happen.
    I think it does have to do with money: TV5 made two mistakes and we were punished/ But he is the skip´per/ But if we had more money we could actally have a skipper minded player and not appoint anyone who will feel too much pressure to let his form go down.

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  34. US4rsenal

    @Ozzy AFC
    I still believe that if we managed to keep our players like Cesc Fabregas, Nasri, Hleb,RVP,(all of them were at the peak of their career) we could have won trophies probably as many as those big spenders.

    That’s how we should have kept the momentum going like Barcelona, Bayern Munchen and currently Dortmund did.

    That’s the way i prefer things to happen at Arsenal. Am not saying am happy at what’s happening at Arsenal. I truely understand fans frustration too. As a long time fan, i can tell that Arsenal is in your blood and i feel you how down you can be to see the club where it is now.

    However,like it or not ownership transfer alone can’t guarantee a success. Chelsea has spent 35Ml on Hazard and 25 Ml on OSCAR despite having 50 Ml Tores at their desposal, they still fighting for CL spot with Us.

    Today the way forward is not only how you spend,it’s how the club is founded. For every best talent in the world, there are clubs like Real Madrid,Mancity, Chelsea, Manunited,Milan,Juventus and anzhi to pay what ever amount it takes.

    The bottom line is we have to keep our best players

    What make me GUNNER is the value the club has not the ‘purchased success’ if anybody of that kind can support Mancity or Chelsea.

    If you say hell to value and hell to quality what else you do you left with Arsenal? Nothing go and support your ANZHI or PSG.

    Saying that,i am not in support of the Stan way of running the club either. I would rather go for Usmanov who can share our value and add to it.

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  35. KickuPtheArsene

    Let me put it this way – I would rather a wealthy Arab(s) who wins us trophies than a stingy American Billionare whos other sporting teams have not won anything in 10 years. (Look it up – Colorado Avalanches – hockey, and St Louis Ram – American Football …. Zero trophies in 10 years). All this man cares about is making a profit for himself, so he can buy another ranch.
    By comparison, Man City won the EPL last year, and are investing heavily into their youth system for the future.
    Of the 2 evils, which would you prefer? And why is it every time a wealthy Sheihk wants to buy a club, it’s instantly assumed that said individual wants it as a “play thing”? Isn’t that, in itself a grievous generalization? Maybe whoever is buying the club wants to make it successful? Surely it’s more a status symbol to own a successful club rather than a failing one?
    In any case, unfortunately, I just don’t think Kroenke will sell. He’s in it for the long haul, and he will make Arsenal the “best” money making middle table club in EPL history. I don’t see a bright future ahead for us fans. :-(

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  36. Gunnerforlife

    Sometimes I feel like screaming like anything and yesterday and today that time is continuing and will conitnue till end of the season. Couldn’t sleep last night and won’t be able to when we will lose to Bayern again as we don’t have any hunger to win.

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  37. Ozzy AFC

    @USArsenal
    I agree that we need to retain the quality on which we were built and I agree that we should not forget too many of our core values, but the way the football world is now is thus that those who have the financial clout win the trophies now I’m not a glory seeker nor do I want trophies with no substance behind the club but I am sick of the amount of lies that come from ashburton grove and the continual procrastination of Wenger to spend the money that the board say is available. It’s one of two problems either Wenger is too stubborn to admit that his methods no longer work and the money is available and he won’t spend it purely on stubborn principle OR the money is NOT available and he won’t alleviate the pressure by saying as much and explaining why he cannot deliver a trophy winning side. Perhaps Wenger is likeminded with the board and truly believes that FFP and the true principles of the economy of the game will win through, BUT at what price??? The selling of all the key players you mentioned was either down to the board or Wenger or both and its unacceptable that these players have not been replaced. The reason for this is apparent the there is a massive reluctance to spend and like as not this will result in Arsenal being a mediocre and eventually non-existent club. Is this acceptable to any real lifelong Gooner?? Cos its not to me.
    If we have to have either an Arab or a Uzbek that owns the club then so be it the continuation of the club and its future should be paramount regardless of whom is helping it financially Silent Stan will ruin the club and that’s a fact. We can bang on about Tradition and la la la la as much as we like but what we’re really facing here is the total destruction of our beloved club if something doesn’t change then we are doomed and that not something I want to see the harsh reality is that without major outside investment we cannot compete and Wenger needs to stop burying his head in the sand and realise that he is part of the problem and become part of the solution, its either that or go! Shit or get off of the pot as my boss is so fond of saying.The same goes for the board sell up and F*ck off stop destroying our club for your financial gain.

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  38. El Blaze

    If Kreonke sells i will go crazy with happiness. It will be the best thing to happen to Arsenal in the past 8 years.

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  39. always a gooner

    Wenger hasnt recovered from the psychological effect of Dein departure and also after fabregas and Vanpersie sale ..it further affected him …….i think he needs to step down for his own good ……even if Silent stan gives him 200 millions to spend on Messi and ronaldo …..Wenger cant win us trophies …because he has lost the winning mentality …HIs salary a,mony and board support has changed him ….guys ..lets face it He is not arsene wenger ..because Arsene wenger is the one who won us trophies , earned us the invincible tag and created and bought World class players..but now thethis arsene wenger is the one who collects his paycheck regularly and lost the football brain sorry to say this

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  40. always a gooner

    my squad for bayern game

    szszseny
    Jenkisnon Koscielny mertesacker Coquelin

    Wilshere Vermaelen
    Oxlade chamberlain Rosicky cazorla
    Poldi

    subs;arteta ,Manonne,diaby ,Ramsey,walcott,Giroud

    I would definetly Bench Walcotta nd giroud for bayern game if i was arsene wenger …..understand me because they are woeful …Give Ox a chance he is much better than walcott …Poldi is better than giroud Roscky should start ahead of ramsey ….lets give vermaelen a chance as a dm ..he is woeful as a cb ….Coquelin and jenkinson can do agood job down the flanks ….This squad would atleast cause bayern some problems and earna draw

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  41. US4rsenal

    Your point makes a lot of sense; we have 10 extremely important games in front of us and let’s be behind our team at least to the end of this season. Missing out to qualify for CL will only make things worse. If that happens, no Player will sign to us during the summer transfer.
    If things are not going well, we will beg fans in London to do us a favor by banning the last Arsenal home Game of the season… that way they can send a serious message to the owner and board what we can do if they kept on selling our star players Who knows they may are planning on selling of Wilshere.
    Regarding the Money the board kept on saying “available”, I do not think so! that’s just a cover up & that’s why I don’t want see Wenger sacked. Coz he is not guilty of it.
    Just think of … 8 years ago you were a manager of Arsenal and the board comes to you with a business plan saying “we want to build a state of the art stadium, we don’t want sell the club but want Finance the cost within our means. We don’t care whether you win us a trophy or not as long as you keep us in CL competition that’s where we get a lot of Money… blah blah blah” you have either to accept the business plan or quit the job ( I suspect that’s why Dein left the club).
    If you accept, then you have only one choice to be honest to yourself and fight for it, fortunately or unfortunately he did exactly what they want him to do and his success rate is 100%.
    We too, have two choices either to accept what Wenger has accepted or oppose the plan and the planers definitely not Wenger.
    Regarding the debt, I believe they can handle that with a descent commercial plan in place.

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  42. US4rsenal

    @Ozzy AFC

    Your point makes a lot of sense; we have 10 extremely important games in front of us and let’s be behind our team at least to the end of this season. Missing out to qualify for CL will only make things worse. If that happens, no Player will sign to us during the summer transfer.
    If things are not going well, we will beg fans in London to do us a favor by banning the last Arsenal home Game of the season… that way they can send a serious message to the owner and board what we can do if they kept on selling our star players Who knows they may are planning on selling of Wilshere.
    Regarding the Money the board kept on saying “available”, I do not think so! that’s just a cover up & that’s why I don’t want see Wenger sacked. Coz he is not guilty of it.
    Just think of … 8 years ago you were a manager of Arsenal and the board comes to you with a business plan saying “we want to build a state of the art stadium, we don’t want sell the club but want Finance the cost within our means. We don’t care whether you win us a trophy or not as long as you keep us in CL competition that’s where we get a lot of Money… blah blah blah” you have either to accept the business plan or quit the job ( I suspect that’s why Dein left the club).
    If you accept, then you have only one choice to be honest to yourself and fight for it, fortunately or unfortunately he did exactly what they want him to do and his success rate is 100%.
    We too, have two choices either to accept what Wenger has accepted or oppose the plan and the planers definitely not Wenger.
    Regarding the debt, I believe they can handle that with a descent commercial plan in place.

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  43. tissiam

    i dont know about you guys,i,d like to think that i am an optimistic bloke&a loyal arsenal fan but truth being told its becoming more and more difficult to defend our team,our manager well forget about the board,i never thought that one day i,ll be saying that but not qualifying for the CL might be a blessing in disguise ,without it the last thing they could boast about during 8 years without a trophy surely something will have to give!!

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  44. Gooner 1

    WE NEED BANNERS AT NEXT GAME KRONKE TAKE YOUR MONEY AND GO.WE DON’T NEED U HERE. YOUR TIME IS UP. WE WANT OUR CLUB BACK AS WE ARE TRUE LOVERS OF ARSENAL.YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND OUR DEVOTION.

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  45. Nevidimka

    Why cant Stan SINCE he owned the club, as a Token of Goodwill, pay off Arsenal stadium’s debts which is about $250 million? That would be just a very small amount from his wealth or even his $2 million ranch that he recently bought? Now that alone would have freed Arsenal and Wenger off the pressure to service the debts and allow us to buy better players and alleviate the NEED to sell off our best players throughout the years to meet the debt. We could have been a force to reckon with with players like Fabregas-RVP-Nasri-wilshere-Theo-vermaleen-Sagna etc2? We could have even won 1 or 2 premier league titles during that time. But no, we are just his piggy bank, he will only take money out of it, and when everything goes wrong, he just points at Wenger and hides in his ranch.

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  46. Kwasi

    Honestly I think that the media has lead to making Arsenal more than a frenzy and a panic than we really are. We haven’t won a trophy for 8 years but it’s chump change compared to how long our BPL counterparts have a waited during certain times in their history, it’s a blip and I think it wont last long at all. I believe Kroenke should go bu Wenger stay simply because Wenger has said numerous times that he doesn’t have the funds to buy top players and has stated it being because of the building of the stadium. But just as always those articles don’t get top of the newspapers, the ones bashing his teams performance and his ability as a manager. I do feel that he makes some suspect decisions but simply because every season for the past 3-4 years he’s had to wing it with brand new players and a relatively new squad. I also don’t think that many of the players are as bad as they are labeled to be, even Santos, Gervinho, and Ramsey have had moments of genius but fail because there’s not sense of “passing the torch” because they come in as new player with no guidance as to how the game goes by previous players. For example, if you really watch their overall individual performances there are moments off gold hidden in the moments of crap.

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  47. Kwasi

    So in my mind many of us are being lead to jump the gun in the “chaos” that is Arsenal at the moment, we’re calling for doom and gloom before it has actually happened, we ca still fix this problem, and turn Arsenal back to dynasty that we have always been known to be. If the people who are in charge would just give Arsenal that extra push (i.e. Kroenke) we’d be a top competitor, we tend to forget that regardless of our current problems, to draw players would still love the prospect of playing for Wenger and Arsenal. I honestly think that all this negativity is being created by us the fans because we are being lead to believe that Arsenal is genuinely destroyed when it’s very far from the case, all we need is for people who run this to be responsible for its well being, put more time and money into it, and to be more proactive and we’ll be a well oiled machine again. We just need the smoke to clear because many people tend to forget that Arsenal id a club in a huge transition, once everything has settled we will go back to winning ways.

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  48. kay

    I think kroenke should take the offer bcos wen this group takeover with good plan at hand & wenger remain as manager then things will surely go on fine and to wenger no more “make me more money” by kroenke bt “win us trophies” by the new take over.

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  49. Ozzy AFC

    Look guys the fact is as simple as this, Stan Kroenke does’nt view the Arsenal football club as a real club he see’s it as a way of making money and thats all!!! he does’nt give a shit one way or the other about what we think or feel or about protests or bad football press, ALL SILENT STAN CARES FOR IS MONEY AND THE MAKING OF IT.
    The only way we could maybe force the board into some kind of action is to boycott three or four games on the trot, and I dont mean a few empty seats I mean a totally empty stadium apart from the away supporters, then and only then would there be some kind of chain reaction maybe via the press or maybe via the supporters groups, but this will never happen not least because there are a large majority of season ticket holders who woul go and support the club reagrdless of whatever happends, I’ve had argumenhts on this site before with many fans who say they would still support Arsenal even if we went down to the vauxhall conference league, well I love Arsenal and I too would still love them even if they fell to that lowly depth, but I dont think we should let that happen without a fight, let these money grabbing souless freaks like Kroenke,Gazidis and Hill Wood that we are the reason the club exists we are the ones that pay the bills we are the ones that buy the shirts and the pie’s and the mugs and the scarfs ect we are the ones who are the foundations on which Arsenal Football club was built, us and those who went before us and as such we DEMAND AN EXPLANATION AND DEMAND THAT SOMETHING BE DONE ABOUT THE SITUATION THE CLUB FINDS ITSELF IN TELL THE TRUTH AND BE HONEST ABOUT THE LONG TERM GOALS YOU HAVE FOR THE CLUB AND IF YOU HAVE NONE THEN GO AWAY AND NEVER DARKEN OUR DOORSTEPS AGAIN !!!!!

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  50. gunparadise

    KROENKE just take the money and #$&& OFF! you dont care a shit about Arsenal, You thinking it just an investment to make money just like any corporate company. Let the people who care and love Arsenal run the club. If money can bring success and bring glory back let it be.Money is not everything but money can sure bring something. Deep inside you AFC is just nothing! just look how you invest in the success of it . Nothing ZERO. To Invest your own money you just give a peanut and the club deteriorated badly. That is what WE think about YOU.

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