Posted on March 09, 2016 by ADMIN

Shall we discuss where Wenger has really brought Arsenal?

DOES WENGER DESERVE MORE RESPECT FROM THE FANS AND MEDIA? by Uche

I cannot even believe that this question needs asking but I had to. We played against a strong Hull side in the FA cup last night and beat them 4-0. It was a tough game against a tough opponent that we failed to crack when we first played them at home a couple of weeks ago. Our game was disrupted nonstop in this second leg with injuries to our opponents and our own players. We lost Per, Gabriel and Aaron. Our defense was unrecognizable. At one point, Aaron Ramsey was playing Centre Back, Nacho Monreal was playing center back, Calum Chambers was switched from right back to center back and Mathieu Flamini was withdrawn from midfield to right back. I have never seen that much shuffling in a game, and yet we remained composed and bossed this game with a deserved and brilliant 4-0 win.

Before this game, we had some decent performances too. We played a very strong Spurs team in their house with ten men and left with a respectable draw and one of our best performances with ten men. Before then we played really well against Barcelona in the Champions league only to be undone by the brilliance of Lionel Messi and Neymar Dos Santos, the two best players in the world. There is no shame in that.

You see where I am going with this? We might not have gotten the points we needed in our pursuit of the Premier league title but with the exception of our cowardly performance against a second string Man United side, we have not played badly at all. We played Southampton out of the park but just couldn’t score. It was a fantastic performance that just lacked goals.

Here is the thing. I sat down for this Hull game knowing that anything can happen. The pressure was high. Sheffield Wednesday knocked us out of the Capital One Cup deservedly so, clearly, you cannot underestimate championship opposition. And yet we finished the Hull game thoroughly victorious, in spite of all the injuries and disorganization narrated above. And just when I was savoring that great performance and win, the camera pans around and stops on a banner that said, ‘Thanks for the Memories Arsene but It Is Time to go’, or something like that. That was hurtful. That was below the belt. What the hell? I was mad and embarrassed by our fans. This is part of what I hate about sport. Where is the respect? Look at that old man that is Arsene Wenger. He has given everything to Arsenal. Lost his marriage to Arsenal and taken punches for Arsenal when we could not publicly reveal we had no money to spend for years. Everybody blamed him for not wanting to spend but he refused to expose the club for not giving him money to spend. When it comes to reliable stand up guys, it doesn’t get better than Arsene. Three league titles and six FA cups, all achieved without spending silly money to buy glory. A 400 million pound stadium built with no sugar daddy, with us still managing to qualify for Champions league every single year since Arsene took over the reins. He does not deserve that.

Let me leave you with a few facts to ponder. It is true that it will hurt if Leicester wins the league. Some say if that happens, that will be a damning verdict on Arsenal. Well, that is one way of looking at it. But this is how I see it. If we don’t win it, it means that nineteen other teams that collectively spent over a billion pounds, failed to win it. We only spent 10 million on Peter Cech. If that makes us losers then there will be nineteen losers come the month of May.

Unfortunately, club football does not give out titles for second and third place finishers like they do in Olympics. If they did, there will be three trophies passed around at the end of every football season. There will be a gold trophy, a silver trophy and a bronze trophy, just like they do in Olympics. Why? That is recognition that coming second or third in a fiercely contested tournament is an achievement to be proud of. If club football awarded medals to the top three the way the Olympics do, Arsene will be sick of winning. Think of the great Olympians who have won silver and bronze medals for our different countries over the years. Imagine taking away their trophies from them, calling them losers and telling them that only gold medalists deserve recognition and glory? That will be terribly inhumane, right? Well, that is what we have been doing to Arsene Wenger for the past ten years. Just let that sink in.

We are gradually moving into an era in Premier league football where finishing 10th will be marked as a great achievement. You only have to look at the teams that will not make top four this season (Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United, Southampton, Everton and possibly West Ham) for you to understand this. Arsene Wenger has more than earned our respect. It is hard to argue otherwise. Peace.

Uche Edochie
Lagos – Nigeria

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33 thoughts on “Shall we discuss where Wenger has really brought Arsenal?

  1. the arsenal messiah

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    1. Midkemma

      How about you STFU and learn something?
      Wenger a dictator??? PMSL!

      Why not look at the real reason for a change in how Wenger manages the club?

      Ivan Gazidis.
      You can look for yourself (if you know how to use google, do you need a daily rag to tell you how to do that as well??), Wenger bought Arshavin for a club record transfer AFTER the debt for the stadium was put on the club. Gazidis comes in and we get bargain basement buys… Before Gazidis = break our own transfer record while we have debt… After Gazidis we buy bargain buys and sell enough players to cover the cost of purchases…

      Thinking too hard for you???

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      1. don99

        And why does your father kept his job? 8m a year is not something to say no to, right? he had to take it and start making every excuse he can get, every dictionary word so as to justify that failure is really a very gr8 after all, fourth place is like a trophy? no quality in the market? January window should be erased? did Gazidis teach Wenger to lie like tht? He is a professor you know?

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  2. Disturbance

    Incredible how you look on things. You really think it’s ok if we don’t win it, because we only spent 10 mills on Cech? Why didn’t we spend enough millions so we win it in May? Swansea was a shocking performance lacking discipline. Spurs was game we’d win if Coquelen had kept his head cool instead of making a touchline challenge that got him sent off!

    As long as we accept mediocrity like this, we’ll never get more than the top 4. Shocking really, that one FA cup win against a CHAMPIONSHIP side playing it’s reverse squad can put up an article like that, ignoring the fact we’ve been not good enough for 10 years, despite all circumstances.

    And last but not least, why do you compare with how other teams failed? Why don’t we focus on a way to win the title, rather than being happy, that others are bad too to hide the fact we just have a bad manager that needs to be replaced?

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    1. Midkemma

      I doubt Wenger has enough support from Gazidis in the buys he wants to make.

      Look at the Ozil transfer, comes after AFC messed up the Suarez bid, I doubt that would be Wengers fault as he has NEVER done anything that stupid previously in any other club he has been at or with his family business.

      Alexis has said it was Wenger who convinced him to join Arsenal over Liverpool who was in the driving seat to get Alexis due to the Suarez transfer… Yet it was WENGER and Arsenal who got the man.

      Cech might of been the easiest transfer to have made recently but even then, it is Wenger who had a big say. Wenger wanted Cech before he went to Chelsea but failed… as soon as he was leaving Chelsea, Wenger was there wanting him… must of been nice for Cech to feel so wanted and makes the decision a lot easier to join Chelsea rivals.

      Where was Ivan the terrible in this story?
      Oh he was screwing up transfers, screwed up getting a CB when we needed and had to wait til Jan to get Gabriel.
      Ivan has screwed up more than once.
      Cazorla could have joined us earlier then he did if Ivan had of increased the bid by a couple million! A COUPLE MILLION!!!!

      Wenger leaves and XXXXXX joins then guess what…
      NOTHING WILL CHANGE!!!

      The board are killing AFC for profits and that is what needs to be tackled.
      Wenger is doing his job.
      Next manager will do his job… and if his job is to make profit… then guess what. Profit will be the next managers goal, not winning the EPL.

      I want to support Arsenal after winning the EPL again, it was fun ^.^
      I can’t believe we will have those moments on a consistent basis while the board puts profit ahead of sport in a sports club, I don’t care who the manager is… If profit is the clubs target then profit is what the manager will aim for, forget winning the EPL or CL…. making safe profit will come 1st.

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  3. Ks-Gunner

    Far enough, his greatness archievement is winning the leage in 2014. But this happened a long time ago, and till now he could not emulate this success let alone top it with winning the cl in 20 years.

    Football has changed to much and he with past fellow greats like van gaal have no place in this time anymore.

    20 years with only winning 3x times the leauge is nothing to be proud of. Dont excuse this lack of success with financial problems, bec other teams have build stadiums aswell but alongside it have won many things.

    I cant see us never win the cl under wenger. to win it we must be very lucky and also have a winning mentality . The team is the reflection of the manager. Wenger is a good coach for young players who want to become good. But he is a terrible manager in managing star players who come at age and do want to succeed and make money as fast as possible.

    best example. kos is a good player who came from the second french leauge, wenger got him and by getting the chance to express himself, he turned out into a fine player. he could have left for personal glory at any time for a big team ( we are a c-team) and make money and win, but he stayed.

    wenger thinks that all players should be like kos, but the mayority do want to go the easy way. and wenger is to old fashionated to give them what they want. there for we stick with players like ramsey and co.

    still bec of football being so diff. we need to adjust our self and not fight against it. wenger has done his deeds and hast archieved his part in history. now we need to see the next chapter with a new manager. coyg

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      1. Ks-Gunner

        for f sake, it was a mistake. the wengeritus akb virus possesed me for a moment

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    1. Midkemma

      2014?
      Did I miss something a couple years ago?

      “Football has changed to much and he with past fellow greats like van gaal have no place in this time anymore.”

      In a football club bought to make profit then Wenger is the 1st choice on any owners lips… Silent Stan is a lucky man to have such a great manager who can develop talent to consistently get into Europes top competition while making a profit.

      Football is only changing because us fans allow rich *insert any bad word you want here* to get away with what-ever they want to with a club rather than stick together and withhold their money till things change.

      “20 years with only winning 3x times the leauge is nothing to be proud of. Dont excuse this lack of success with financial problems, bec other teams have build stadiums aswell but alongside it have won many things.”

      I call BS.
      Name 1 club that has built a stadium while staying in Europe’s top competition.
      You wont be able to, no other team has done it.

      “I cant see us never win the cl under wenger. to win it we must be very lucky and also have a winning mentality . The team is the reflection of the manager. Wenger is a good coach for young players who want to become good. But he is a terrible manager in managing star players who come at age and do want to succeed and make money as fast as possible.”

      Again I call BS.
      Henry was fine with Wenger.
      Vieira was fine with Wenger.
      Pires was fine with Wenger.
      Alexis has said that Wenger is the reason why he joined Arsenal over Liverpool.
      Ozil has said how Wenger made a big impact and a big reason for him joining Arsenal.

      What big name can Wenger not deal with?

      Oh as for winning stuff… That is more of the boards responsibility.
      Board wants profit, not trophies, board sets Wengers targets.

      “best example. kos is a good player who came from the second french leauge, wenger got him and by getting the chance to express himself, he turned out into a fine player. he could have left for personal glory at any time for a big team ( we are a c-team) and make money and win, but he stayed.”

      Could also have used Nasri as the example, Nasri didn’t want to leave but was told by Silent Stan that he was going to be sold after Wenger promised him he wouldn’t be sold in the same window as Cesc.
      Nasri wanted to stay and repay Wenger, Silent Stan sold him. Nasri has since came out and said that Wenger was the best manager he has ever worked with and has so much respect for him.

      “wenger thinks that all players should be like kos, but the mayority do want to go the easy way. and wenger is to old fashionated to give them what they want. there for we stick with players like ramsey and co.”

      Evidence to back it up?
      Oh you got non, surprise surprise.
      Fact is this: Wenger likes his players to be intelligent and to make the best choices they can in the flow of a game, Wenger doesn’t do rigid tactics which we see in other clubs. Vermaelen recently came out and talked about the training defference in Barca compared to Arsenal, Barca overload on passing and closing down training.
      It is DIFFERENT. When it works well then a team can be built to go unbeaten.

      “still bec of football being so diff. we need to adjust our self and not fight against it. wenger has done his deeds and hast archieved his part in history. now we need to see the next chapter with a new manager. coyg”

      Talk about totally missing the point.
      If you are a true supporter then you will know Arsenals history, on and off the pitch.
      You wouldn’t be calling for the manager to be sacked but calling for a change in how the team is being run.
      You think any other manager will be given all Arsenals cash reserves and told to go crazy?
      I will bet you right now that if we do get another manager then profit will be that managers goal and we will still be a joke in transfers.

      Nothing will change unless us fans stick together and force Silent Stan out.
      He wants profits…
      Don’t give Arsenal any money until things change.
      If all fans did that then Silent Stan will see the profits disappear and want to sell his shares to get his cash back before we cost him too much.
      THEN we can look forward at winning stuff for sporting reasons and not just to make Arsenals bank account bigger.

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      1. ArseOverTit

        An important point I would like to re-enforce!

        To paraphrase: stop buying Arsenal merchandise: Xmas jumpers, mugs, kits, willie warmers, tickets (better to watch in the pub anyway) etc..

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  4. Ks-Gunner

    And if you take a minute to think about this season then you will understand that we have broken many bad records in this season alone. We are not progessin but rather regress. This needs to stop as soon as possible.

    Winning the fa cup means nothing if the cost to do so is spending 40mil on players like Ozil. With players like Ozil we need to aim for the epl and cl. and to do so, we need to keep on becoming better by doing anything possible to improve.

    deadwood out like walcott and replace him for example with draxler – a player who is a genius and who we almost got if not for wenger not willing to spend the money. money we have enough.

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  5. ArseOverTit

    Tis all a bit dramatic this article.

    Especially as the man himself is a bit of a cold logical fish who doesn’t seem to give a rats arse about the clubs fans.

    He has been paid handsomely for his efforts of the back of his early years successes that are in part to a impenetrable defense and core of leaders he adopted from the previous manager.

    I’ve said it before, a statue should be made for him and his contribution to our club but on footballing success and progress alone he must be resigned to history and I suspect this will come sooner rather than later.

    Leicester or Spurs winning will help see to that.

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    1. NY_Gunner

      @aot
      It’s really hilarious, that guys like you and a few others, who lambaste AW day in and out, without letting up, come out here and whine about him not respecting “you”…This ish writes itself. LMFBAO

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      1. ArseOverTit

        Yeh, NY another little tag on comment that doesn’t really contribute or actually mean a great deal.

        Nice use of text speak abbreviations BTW!

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        1. NY_Gunner

          @aot
          And how does the same old “AW out” bashing, day in and out contribute? You guys want to comment, but get all up in arms when someone replies in a way not in awe of or inline with your dogma…

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  6. infumous25

    We all know what he has done for us and we are grateful..the reason he has to leave is his decision making when to tactics and playing players…for example playing Ramsey week in week out when he has poor games…benching Campbell after he was our best player on the field….Even when it came to transfers for example Dybala we missed out on him why? was he not worth £25 mil? even Juv did not pay all of it up front they split it between season we could have done the same…These are just examples of what he has failed to do when needed

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    1. ArseOverTit

      Love Dybala! So gutted we didn’t (make an offer) get him.

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  7. Zulu-boy-SA

    If Arsene does not win the league this season, it will be because he underachieved and he has no excuse for that and he should retire.

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  8. aaronpias

    B3liev or not..no need to dscuss the recent games since they are just hurtng my heart, loosing to swansea was really boring,painful and heart hurtng result.
    surely wenger brought arsenal from far and he is the most honoured arsenal manager so far..but why should he not leave befor his honour fades away?..because the failures arsenal is gettng under him keeps increasing from year to year! Please for ua honour to remain with us let this be your last season! Over

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  9. Zulu-boy-SA

    Seriously why did he substitute Campbell against Swansea, He over played Sanchez until he was injured, He played Carzola while he was carrying a knee injury.

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  10. SoOpa AeoN

    No point………..we already know where we are and where we would be with wenger !

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  11. Zulu-boy-SA

    He refused to play with a DM until he was forced by injuries to recall Francis Coquelin, and until then everybody been telling him to get a DM.

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    1. don99

      He always tries to find a way to prove everybody wrong, even for the sake of success, for 10 years now. and still people tries to praise him by his past glories, 3 EPL titles in 20 years is pathetic, compare him to his rival, Ferguson. Maurinho have been in the EPL for a total of 5 years, and won 3 EPL titles just like specialist in failure did in 20 years

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  12. Kotte

    Many articles of defending Wenger coming in quick succession,they are becoming boring,no one will ever convince me that he is still the right man 4 the job…the fact that even nxt season we will be arguing about the same topic says it all…thanks 4 the memory Wenger we love u bt i think its time to gv it a rest!

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    1. NY_Gunner

      @kotte
      Not as boring as the constant AW bashing in every article, whether we win, lose, or draw… By the same old whine merchants…Like YOU.

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  13. ger burke

    wenger is the nearly man , he nearly signed several world class players , he nearly won the champions league , he nearly won the premier league .he is nearly ready to be put out to grass , give him a free highbury flat for all that he has done for our club in the past .but please get rid of this dictator now before it is too late , he is dragging us down .

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  14. Kempinski

    Respect is something u have to earn it and i must say that i respected wenger 9yrs ago when the ARSENAL BRAND was still a thing to dream of but not today….he did everything possible in his power to ruin his reputation and that of our club and the worst of all is that he doesn’t give a damn about it!

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  15. HA559

    There he goes again. Theo Walcott opening his mouth and saying how a secret meeting helped the players against Tottenham. Then if that was the case why didn’t he do anything for the first 60 minutes of yesterday. Lazy and over rated player that only dribbles the ball against small teams.

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  16. Kotte

    I think am not like you…i rili hate being a looser and at arsenal we’ve become loosers over the years! Excuses excuses excuses! We can do better than this we shud be fighting top honours with the big boys..nwdays if u tell smone arsenal will win the league he jst laughs u off even if we are 5points clear. DAMN!

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    1. NY_Gunner

      @kotte
      You certainly are not a winner when it comes to spelling. Baby steps…

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  17. Fatboy Gooney

    There’s only 9 games left in the premier league,
    And even though we have missed a hell of alot of opportunities to run away with the league title this season,
    I’m still willing to wait and see the final outcome before giving myself an uncle Ernie ( hernia ).

    Yes, I know that I haven’t been shy in venting by frustrations and anger at wenger and some of lads, when we lose games that we should have been won.. but my bug is only a 48 hour thing! 😂 😂

    At the end of the day, we fans only have one thing in common and that’s obviously ARSENAL FC! …

    I’m not one to blow my own trumpet… But just wait and see,
    I have a good feeling that this 💩 will end well,
    and to those fan’s that would rather see Arsenal lose just to save face on their hatred, then you have no face to call yourself an Arsenal fan!

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