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SWFC v Arsenal review – Bad luck, Good goals, Arsenal out

That was not what Arsenal wanted, never mind the fact that the Capital One Cup is a poor fourth on our list of priority targets, especially this season when it looks like we have a great chance of the Premier League trophy.

But as well as accepting that Arsene Wenger was always going to play a much changed team, you cannot blame the boss for losing first Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and then his replacement Theo Walcott to injury. The Gunners had left a lot of the big name players like Ozil, Cazorla, Alexis and Coquelin at home but we did have Giroud, Cech, Mertesacker, Gibbs, Debuchy and Flamini on the pitch.

The simple fact was that Sheffield Wednesday were on it. THey seemed to want it more and they played very well and while Arsenal dominated possession early on, they coped with it well and we did not do the same as they grew into the game and punished us with some good goals.

This was certainly a night to forget for Arsenal, and one that the Sheffield fans will no doubt remeber for a long time, and we are left hoping that it does noit have a negative effect on the confidence of the team ahead of the more important Premier League and Champions League games to come. And we can only hope that Walcott and the Ox are back soon and that the Arsenal injury curse is not coming back to bother us.

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    1. we can just laugh on this result
      not single player today looked like professional footballer(totally S#%T)
      16 mil for calum chambers worst signing by Arsene
      mert fastest player in the world ( a 5 year boy could beat him in race)
      Debu and joel they are not Arsenal club material
      and our today result i could tell u that not single youngster could enter in our fist team
      our future is dark

        1. Ox could be so good if he made better decisions. Get him some therapy. Confidence!. Feel sorry for Joel. Just hasnt worked out. Neither for Debuchy. But they both can leave and get picked up. Better for Joel if he rots the bench until the summer and keeps his world cup cred. Too bad a lot of youth players were unavailable. I wanted to see Adelaide play.

        1. loss does not matter the fighting spirit is matter and did u see the single player that motivated the team.the answer will NO.

            1. either our “backups” suck (but mert,giroud,walcott,.. were there)
              OR
              our players just didnt care.

              i’m hoping its the latter.

      3. Think your right about chambers mate coz I think Jenkins is far better then him but always with AW if the face don’t fit your out. Mad is crap sorry let him go and bring our boy back. Then end JCs contract and bring Chris back from loan. It’s so easy and look at FQ when he came back? Say no more

    2. What a stupid sub decision to bring Walcott on so early,and Giriod was waisted as Flamini and others passing was woefull. There will be a clear out and fresh bought in as that team was nothing like an Arsenal eleven. Let’s all be honest as the list of so called back up players are ordinary quality. At least he kept our best at bay CB

  2. Said this before the game, we’re after EPL title. Who cares bout this. Heads up, 3 points against Swansea during the weekend is our next goal. And PRAYING Theo and Ox are okay. If even one of them can shake off their injury we should be fine until we get more players back. Not upset even a bit though, let’s just keep going. COYG!

          1. I turned down a date tonight (Netflix and chill) because I never miss Arsenal matches, so it’s well deserved blue balls for me. I don’t deserve a missus but cheers anyways mate

  4. Listen Baby Please

    I didn’t expect us to be beaten this badly
    I naively thought our defense would be good enough, if not our attack

    Guess I was wrong big time.

      1. hardly embarassing.
        shef wed beat our reserves
        big woop
        listen baby please…ur talking out your bum bum

        1. @muffdiver
          Realness…
          The young lads were stage struck. But at least they tried. Joel man of the match. He might get him some game time now that both Ox and Theo are crocked…Iwobi and Bielik should get a couple more games under them.

          1. Campbell good defensively but he doesn’t convince me going forward at all. I dunno if he should start. Gibbs used to play winger but he only plays on left and don’t know if switching Alexis to another wing would be positive. A lot of important descicions to make if Ox and Theo are out. Arsenal Player commentators said Theo off MAY have been a precaution from Wenger. That’s what i’m hoping to hear later on.

        2. There is absolutely no need to insult fellow Arsenal fans. Criricise without that sort of thing

          Cech, Walcott, Giroud, Debuchy, Mertsacker, Gibbs are not reserves but even if they are we should still not get blown away by a lower League

  5. With that experienced defense of cech and the back four im very disappointed. With the exception of chambers that back four was our starting defense last season before Monreal & Bellerin earned those fullback positions.The midfield was awful therefore the attack couldnt get service. As for campbell ….

  6. Well done Wednesday taught our bunch of weaklings a severe lesson. Played with no heart no bottle disgracefull honestly the worst performance Iv ever seen from an arsenal team. Poor debutantants had absolute shocking experience players to play alongside them (debuchy,gibbs, flamini and il throw campbell in there) absolutely clueless.

    2 injuries standard it’s arsenal

    One thing good to come out of this wenger should be in No doubt who his first teamers are n have a real think about the squad in whole. Injuries to santi ozil n sanchez or Coq and we are f***** excuse my language

    1. exactly. Our non-starters cannot complain. They have to take their chances and they embarrassed themselves. Campbell is god awful. He can’t fill in on RW even.

  7. It is very shameful that the likes of Gibbs, Debuchy, Campbell and Flamini could not provide leadership on the pitch for these young guns. As we bow of the C1C, these players should be prepared to retain their place on the Arsenal bench in other competitions.

  9. Listen Baby Please

    Our match is the only match not going to extra time
    Brutal night for us.

    It’s going to give Wenger a lot to think about with Gibbs, Debuchy, Mertsacker and Chambers

    Also Walcott and OX joining Ramsey, Welbeck, Wilshere, Ospina and Rosicky maybe

    Brutal Brutal Night baby please

  10. not sure what to say.. poor performance injuries… horrific day really… hope campbell can make the best of his opportunity now.. and please god no serious injuries…

  16. Even if there were no injuries to Ox and Walcott Arsenal would’ve still lost. The players were not up for it. I’m surprised the other players not in the first team were not up for it, because this is most likely the only cup beside maybe some fa cup matches where they will get games to prove themselves.

    We now don’t have a RW in the team, We can’t put Bellerin there against Swansea and Bayern because Debuchy wil get caught with pace at RB. We all know how Chambers fared in that fixture last season.

    Tony Pulis says Gnabry isn’t good either for his WBA team.

  17. Our passing in the final third was bad. Giroud was just a lonely Man up top. Our defending was out of it.
    Those guys came at us and good passing and movement would have worn them out.
    Anyway, on to the next game and we hope for a better show with the bigger boys

  18. The gulf in class between our first team and second string players is terrifying, and worrying for the future. When players like Kamara and Iwobi are considered so highly yet are invisible against a championship.

    1. I really don’t think Kamara is rated that highly at all…
      We have Maitland-Niles, Hayden, Crowley and Zelalem in midfield who are regarded much, much more highly. Bielik made him look even more average when he came on.

      1. If that’s the case why was he given valuable first team time? He’s considered a potential long term CM. Agree that Bielik made him look poor, but I also think he should have started over Kamara to begin with.

        1. The players I’ve mentioned are all on loan… Receiving ‘valuable first team time’
          Yeah hindsight’s brilliant isn’t it? Kamara may have been playing better for the u21’s but wasn’t ready for the physical and pace of the next step.

  19. when you are given a chance to play we expect a good performance..take your opportunity and shine like coquilien not like the players we had on the pitch today.

  20. OK, I expected a bad performance because they haven’t got much game time, but you can’t do BASICS right. Defence was totally clueless, they just forgot how to defend. Also Sheffield Wednesday players are just giving their everything, and we can’t get even 5-10 yards pass correct.

    Okay we are down with injuries, but you have to give your 100% from yourself. That you also can’t give, then what are you in the team for??

    As I saw the team, I feared that there will be 0% creativity. And I got that right. For first time we had more wingers than creative midfielders in our team LOL. We can’t make a forward pass at our will. Backpass,sidepass,backpass,sidepass, REPEAT. No service to Giroud. No contribution from yourselves. How are you gonna score the goals??

    And I don’t want anyone to demand first team oppurtunities UNTIL they get their BASICS right.

    Lets forget today’s match and focus on Swansea. Atleast we have less fixtures now. But we have more injuries

    1. You could tell Bennacer really didn’t want to be on the ball and Kamara was out of his depths.
      Sort of screwed our whole system..

  21. Up Next…..Swansea. We hate losing but we wont win all games.. I rather we beat Swansea and Bayern Munich….Some of our fringe players got to step up though and seems like Debuchy mind is somewhere else.

    Well, I hope our rested players will be fresh for the weekend…Arsenal All The Way!

  22. The clear out sale which should have happened last summer hopefully will this summer … Debuchey mert and am sorry to say Gibbs … He,just hasn’t improved over last three years… Flamini arteta and Campbell all for the chop … Have to say though I can’t get overexcited about this result but should make us nervous as any injury to our quality players will have potentially serious consequences if this is the only lot to call on

    1. Keep Gibbs if he’s content being backup. Debuchy transfer has been a disaster because of injuries and form. Flamini and Arteta just old, same with Rosicky unfortunately, and nobody has any clue why Campbell is still here. Clearout much needed.

    2. Yeah… So Mertz, Arteta and Gibbs aren’t leaving.
      Arteta will coach, Mertesacker was heavily involved in two massive clean sheets against United and Bayern when actually playing with the first team and Gibbs is absolutely fine as a squad player.
      Knee-Jerky trash as per usual from you. Rotation was the main objective today, half the team had never even played together.

      1. this wasn’t even rotation it was a throwaway game. AW doesn’t care about these competitions. Next time we’re honestly better off playing a full XI of kids. Don’t matter to me personally. Its the Mickey Mouse Cup. Nobody would blink an eye if they discontinued this competition.

      2. Suggest you look up the word knee-jerk before you start using big fancy words to make your point … Anyone defending mertesakher as suitable for the top flight gets zero respect from me am sorry to say … Your Panglossian …uh there’s a big word .. Perspective is sad but predictable

  23. Defeat can sometimes open your eyes and makes you see many things. Our LB and RB (gibbs and debuchy) are calamity.
    Coquelin replacement (flamini) is worse
    Joel Campbell is not arsenal quality. Players better than him like bolasie cabaye payet mahrez vardy are playing at lower clubs.
    Calum chambers is a calamity at CB
    Giroud cannot create anything on his own. He needs the class of ozil Santi sanchez to work. Great strikers like lewa cavani aguero can create goals for themselves if the team mates are not helping
    Lastly, non worries about the league cup exit, the main worry is that the ghost has returned. 3 players injured inside a week. Ramsey walcott abd ox. Ramsey is out for a month. Hope walcott and ox are fine. Waiting for updates

  25. Not to bothered about the loss today, as long as we can get good performances in the next three games before the next international break that would be good enough.

  26. Pathetic performance, biggest loss against lower league team for 56 years, apparently. Main disappointment is that non of the youngsters had a good game, I was hoping to see some emerging talent. Wenger has just said that none of them are ready to play at this level. Paul Merson says this is harsh and the blame lies with the experienced players on the pitch to show leadership.

    Lets hope Theo and Ox are OK. Theo should have been given more time to warm up before going on.

    At least Ospina was not playing, otherwise some on here would have blamed him.

  27. No biggie…
    Tried to play possession football with two players completely out of their depths who were vital if we had any chance of playing that way. (Kamara, Bennacer) engine room was non-existent.
    We rested all the players who need a rest. Onto a big week now!!

  29. And so it begins the injury to the OX and Walcot. Wengers reluctance to buy outfield players in the summer will come back and bit him on the ass.

    1. to be fair we didn’t need a winger. And Ox, Theo, Welbeck, Ramsey, Wilshere can all play RW and they are all out. Should AW really have forseen this and bought somebody?

  30. I’m not bothered about getting knocked out of this competition, but what annoys me is that we conceded 3 goals and couldn’t even score one!
    Don’t forget we only started with 2 reserve players,
    The rest were bench warmers, our so called back ups!
    Which goes to show that we do need to strengthen our squad in a big way!
    Wenger rushed Walcott on without letting him warm up,
    So we can thank Wenger for his calf injury ?

    Next up … boggie team, Swansea away and then Munich away!…. ?
    Same old Arsenal … falling to bits!

  31. The best youngsters are currently playing elsewhere i get that part but where did the first team reserves go? I thot debuchy was better than sagna n at some point gibbs was better than nacho? I think it just dawned on me that albeit a good one, we only have a first team! God forbid anythn should happen to santi. Or to alexis dear lord..

      1. Some good news : Chelsea got knocked out too against Stoke in penalties. BIGGEST NEWS
        All penalty players scored (Stoke + Chelsea) but HAZARD’s got saved

      1. Honestly I don’t know why he was voted player of the season in Premier league last season. You can see clearly now, that without penalties his tally doesn’t add up.

  34. To solve the right wing issue…. Make bellerin our ring wing… Bring bank jenkinson frm loan…. Not sure hw west ham gonna react… Jenkinson should b our full back… That boy is in form

  35. To solve the right wing issue…. Make bellerin our ring wing… Bring bank jenkinson frm loan…. Not sure hw west ham gonna react… Jenkinson should b our full back… That boy is in form….

  36. In the interview after the game Wenger said the two injured players along with the other players out injured has left Arsenal very short. Now who’s fault is this. It’s his ( Wenger’s ). He Messed up during the Summer Transfer window. This is BAD Management at it’s best. Wenger Out.

  37. Honestly, wenger need to put this game into consideration. Atleast now, wenger have to learn from joel campbel, debuchy, chambers and co. Good team? Who fail to prove their worth. Its time we start recruiting some promising 2nd VI.

    1. Chambers wasn’t nearly as bad as people are suggesting… The absolutely abysmal showing from midfield made it a lot harder to evaluate Iwobi and Campbell.
      Downgrading from Ozil, Rosicky, Wilshere, Ramsey and Cazorla to Bennacer, (not slating him, the kid’s just barely moved to a new club in a new country, was clearly out of his depths, which is allowed at such a young age.. A loooooong time to go in his development) who was stagnant and looked scared to have the ball at his feet.
      When the system fell apart as much as it did and there was such a huge fundamental breakdown when linking defence and attack.. It’s very hard to evaluate the individual qualities of the players.

  38. Don’t really care about game, I’m more concerned that our backup players put up such a poor show against a championship team, and what has happened to Chambers and Debuchy? Is it lack of match fitness, because they seem to have nose dived since last season? Chambers was always work in progress, but that was progressing forward, rather than backwards – and Debuchy hasn’t had a good game since the injury, although to be fair, he hasn’t played much.

    I’m also concerned and confused about Walcott and Ox. I don’t really understand why neither warmed up properly, and also (maybe someone can correct me here), if it is a muscular injury, I thought that the quicker you start applying heat etc. the better, for a quicker recovery – I thought the worse thing possible was for them to be sitting in the cold, in actual fact I don’t really understand why they were there at all.

    1. Chambers and Mertz weren’t nearly as bad as people are suggesting… Debuchy, yeah, put in a horrible shift and his flank was poorly protected throughout.
      The way we defend is so collective, it’s extremely hard to evaluate individual performances as part of a team that was so bad.. The constant turnovers in dangerous positions is something that rarely happens with Coq and Cazorla protecting, and pulling the strings. The way we build from the back is always going to be a dangerous game if there’s a significant downgrade in midfield quality…

  39. I seem to remember some time ago United puled out of the FA Cup. I think it`s time all managers were allowed to be selective.

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