Posted on February 07, 2017 by ADMIN

Two little defeats and fickle Arsenal fans go mad!

I don’t know if Arsenal fans actually realise that football is just a game, and is not the only meaning in our lives, but it seems that the whole world falls apart when the Gunners lose a couple of games. Okay the Watford loss was quite embarrassing, but to lose away to a team that has absolutely dominated this season’s EPL is not such a disgrace and should be treated with caution. There are very very very few teams that will win at Stamford Bridge this season, like most seasons in fact!

Even our old enemy Harry Redknapp is chiming in with some sympathy for Arsene Wenger this morning. ‘He has been a fantastic manager over the years for the job he has done at Arsenal,’ Harry said when he saw the WengerOut leaflets.

‘Maybe it is time for a change, if they don’t win the league – well they won’t win the league this year – maybe Arsene will look at it and think “I’ve done an incredible job while I’ve been here” and leave while he’s still where he is [up here].

‘I would hate to see him get hounded out of there.’

I don’t understand why our best manager EVER should be “hounded out”. We are still in the top Four, and we are only 3 points below second place with many months to go. We have every chance of winning the race “without including Chelsea” and (you never know!) they may even have a blip of their own before the end of the season, although that is hard to believe. We may hate our neighbours but we simply have to admit that this season Conte and his team has totally dominated this League, and fully deserve to take the crown. Are all the other teams below him calling for their manager to be sacked? No!

Why are Arsenal fans so fickle?

Sam P

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28 thoughts on “Two little defeats and fickle Arsenal fans go mad!

  1. truegunner12

    It isn’t fickle but objectively Arsenal fans have a legitimate reason to be upset. This season has been a mirror of the last 12 seasons and I’m sorry but if we claim to be a big club not only capable of competing as well as capable of actually winning the league then the fans have every right to be absolutely livid if the title challenge went exactly the same way it has as the last 12.

    The fickle attitude stems from the fact that Arsenal genuinely seem to be the only club in the top 6 that seem to have a gross overestimation of the clubs abilities and seem incapable of assessing matches objectively. I said it after the Chelsea win that we shouldn’t take stock in the result too much as that version of Chelsea was a poor side. But that result clouded the judgement of our fans simply because we havent beaten Chelsea in a long time.

    The same exact thing that has happened in the last decade plus has happened again this season and Arsenal fans should be used to it by now so I’m not sure why many get upset when literally nothing has changed for 10 plus years. If the fans had an honest Outlook of the season might turn out instead of projecting a status we have long since lost onto a team that genuinely can’t compete a change would have come a long time ago as either Wegner would have been fired long ago or the fans would have accepted that this is currently they are going to get .

    That’s why they flip flop so much . .

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  2. arsenal_canada

    Lol! Calling arsenal fans fickle for getting pissed off when we lose is absurd. Everyone has a right to an opinion, especially when they dump thousands into this club. I should call every AKB clueless, but I won’t, because everyone has an opinion and I’ll respect that opinion. Believe me, a storm is brewing at the emerites, and it’ll only get worse.

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  3. mark

    Yeah but Harry Redknapp has never quite managed at the top top level, so for him (and 16 other PL managers) 4th place ad infinitum IS success. That’s kind of the point.

    YES, to other teams and fans 4th place would be considered a great achievement, but when you’ve achieved it for many years it starts to wear thin and get boring.

    And it’s not 2 little defeats, it’s a pattern of soft bellied rolling over that we keep doing year after year after year.

    That’s down to the manager. End of.

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    1. Vlad

      Don’t you think that players themselves should take some responsibility for it? Wenger put out his best starting XI against Chelsea. You think he told Coq to suck, or to Cech to give the ball away to Cesc? Sanchez, our leader, or so he thinks, was nowhere to be found on Saturday. Watford’s loss is on Wenger, no doubt about it. But you can’t blame Chelsea’s defeat on him too. Players failed the manager, not the other way around. Some people just too blind or too stubborn to recognize it.

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      1. mark

        It’s not about being blind or stubborn, the facts speak for themselves.

        Wenger has been manager for 20+ years and players have come and gone in that time, so HE is the ONLY constant. Yes the players have to take responsibility, but managers have to manage, and I think he falls short of the absolute winner mentality.

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  4. bran99

    “I don’t understand why our best manager EVER should be “hounded out”. We are still in the top Four, and we are only 3 points below second place with many months to go.”

    guess we are different, and we just seen who the fickle one is. where were you on Saturday evening? gathering your knowledge to write what, 4 paragraphs? articles were pouring here, you were hiding somewhere waiting for things to cool a bit and come defend mediocrity that has been happening for more than 12 years now

    “we are only 3 points below second place” are we after second place or what? you could write we are 12 points below first place, was that hard?

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    1. Jimbeam

      Well said Bran. I always fail to understand people who are stuck in the glory of the past. Yes Arsene was great! He did incredible things, and now for the last 5 years he has completely lost the plot. Tactically, motivationally, in the transfer market, just about in every skill he has been surpassed by younger and hungrier managers.
      He has overstayed his welcome – no one and I mean no one in this world want to admit that they are not good enough for a job anymore. It’s admitting one’s own mortality. Arsene has been dragging Arsenal through his old with him. It’s a pity, as he looses his legacy Arsenal keep loosing titles.

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  5. ken2

    that’s the problem, arseanl are a team that stay well with in the reach of the summit and where other ex players turned pundit will demolish they will have arseanl ex players turned pundit joining them. it’s easy to poke holes in arsenal when everyone else is doing it but peoplelike neville who believe arseanl have no spine can’t explain teams like man united getting no where near the top. I think it’s a disgrace that despite the obvious table standings arsenal can keep on top of them. was anyone making up noise when arseanl beat chelsea at the Emirates, no ! it was a. case of waiting for the reverse fixture

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    1. bran99

      these things have been happening for more than a decade, you think it’s only after the Chelsea loss? where have you been for the past 10 years? are you new? if you were leaving in an underground banker for the past 10 years you’d think its still the same year, same bullshit happening you wouldn’t know 13 years has passed

      what’s the excuse? team had no money, Leicester won in that manner. team has money and the old man bought players in all the positions needed, still no improvement, what do you think could be the problem?

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  6. Raoh

    It’s not just 2 little defeats. It is an accumulation of things:
    -Not winning major silverware in the past 12 seasons (ULC, EPL)
    -Recurring problems not being adressed and excuses being made just listen at the Chelsea interview. Same collapse and bad gambles.
    -Missing targets in the transfer window and hearing about what could’ve been or taking to long to seal a deal because we’re haggling over fees when we’re supposed to be a financial powerhouse and fail to field a proper defense on the 1st game of the season.

    I am neutral be it with Wenger or not all I want is the club success and honestly we are fighting for pride and not to be the laughing stock of the league and football in general. This article on bleacherreport sums up what a fan who wants the club success would like to see:
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691461-ranking-the-5-things-that-could-save-arsene-wengers-arsenal-job
    -Beat Bayern and progress above our mental block
    -Make top four and possibly as good as last season finishing #2
    -Ensuring we finish above any team in London except Chelsea of course
    -Win FA Cup best chance of silverware
    -Win UCL long reach but beating Bayern could spur the team and maybe make them believe coupled with playing any team except Barca, Real & Atletico in the round after and could we do a Chelsea 2012.
    Maybe that could mean Wenger leaves on a high, legacy unblemished and fans happy. Best outcome frankly.

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  7. Break-on-through

    I can’t see Arsenal Liverpool or Tottenham win this title over the next three to five seasons. Chelsea are back already, and how good will they be when Conte gets more time and his own set of players. Manu and Mourinho, they’ll be a strong bet for next season. Manc and Pep, eventually he’ll have them steamrolling over the bottom half whilst playing the leagues silkiest football. I’m not sure a change in management is going to be the quick fix people seem to think it’ll be. Most managers these days don’t target their own players, allot of clubs have heads or football executives or such. If Howe is high up on the list, well that tells us that it’s likely a short list. Simeone, A Madrid are one of those clubs that have a guy above dealing with player recruitment, they’ve been doling out top strikers the last ten years with this guys say so. Alergi, people like him I would say because of Conte connections/similarities. My first thoughts of him, from an interview, was that I wouldn’t dare turn my back on him. Hearing him say he had talks with AFC and is replacing Arsene, while he’s in a job with a tremendous club right now ..I was right with my first impression. If we are to try our luck with a different manager, I think it would be wise to also get a well respected chief of football.

    Abramovic, he could go on over there for another thirty years. City, that’s an advertisement platform for their owners, god knows how long that could go on for. I hoped in the beginning that this would be just a fad for these owners, and then Chelsea will go back to being the club that they really are, same with city.

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    1. mark

      I don’t think changing managers would always be a quick fix, but we are stuck in the rut of perpetual runners up, and given AW won’t change his philosophy, a change is the only thing we can think might help..

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  8. Nebsy

    When I read the title I thought this would be a sarcastic text that makes fun of the deluded reasoning of an AKB grave digger, but it is a text done by an actual deluded AKB grave digger.

    Defeats against Everton, Man City and chavsky are an image of every derby game to follow.
    I’m telling you now, Arsenal won’t win a single derby game that ‘s left. With that said, I’m pretty sure we’ll battle for the top five with LIverpool. And once Kroenke realizes that the difference between the Champions League and Europa League is not that vast, compared to the risks of buying top players, that could end up never being sold for more than they were brought in for, he’ll pull the hand brake and sell the top earners immediately and focus on qualifying in Europa League, year in, year out.

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  9. Raoh

    It’s not just 2 little defeats. It is an accumulation of things:
    -Not winning major silverware in the past 12 seasons (ULC, EPL)
    -Recurring problems not being adressed and excuses being made just listen at the Chelsea interview. Same collapse and bad gambles.
    -Missing targets in the transfer window and hearing about what could’ve been or taking to long to seal a deal because we’re haggling over fees when we’re supposed to be a financial powerhouse and fail to field a proper defense on the 1st game of the season.

    I am neutral be it with Wenger or not all I want is the club success and honestly we are fighting for pride and not to be the laughing stock of the league and football in general. This article on bleacherreport sums up what a fan who wants the club success would like to see:
    -Beat Bayern and progress above our mental block
    -Make top four and possibly as good as last season finishing #2
    -Ensuring we finish above any team in London except Chelsea of course
    -Win FA Cup best chance of silverware
    -Win UCL long reach but beating Bayern could spur the team and maybe make them believe coupled with playing any team except Barca, Real & Atletico in the round after and could we do a Chelsea 2012.
    Maybe that could mean Wenger leaves on a high, legacy unblemished and fans happy. Best outcome frankly.

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  10. Break-on-through

    With the way some of our first teamers have played this season. You’d expect a couple of our youngsters to be biting at the bit, they should be hungry. They should show when training with the first team just how hungry they are, go in hard on the first teamers. Like Martinez for instance, Cech and Ospina are comfortable they know their set fixtures, if Martinez had got a surprise call he might have surprised us with an odd man of match display. Bielik has good stature surely he might of came in handy with how our first four CM’s ended missing, I presume with the right incentive he’d look hungry. That young striker Nketiah looks like he could show some hunger, or Mavadidi, he already looks stronger than Walcott. It’d be a big call alright, but with midfield low on numbers, I would have liked to see a quick young striker start with Alexis playing directly behind him, against Watford. Lets hope they learn from their loans well.

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  11. Bobbyraz

    Fans like this are the exact reason why arsenal are where they are that’s why Wenger will prolly remain in charge cos of guys like this who call’s loss to wartford at home and Chelsea away little, we would have been 3 points behind them if we had turned up for either

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  12. AndersS

    If loosing at home to a bottom half team, who hadn’t won for God knows how long and being totally outclassed by Chelsea are 2 little defeats, I kind of wonder what a just a “medium” defeat looks like, not to mention a big defeat 🙂

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  13. NY_Gunner

    Don’t see the “whiney-moanies” using Ranieri and LC as the benchmark anymore…LoL

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    1. HA559

      That sums up how bad we were last season. Everyone else was seemingly having a bad season, and we turned favourites to win it at one point. Even then we finished 10 points behind. We won against Leicester only to be out the following week with dropped points against Swansea and Manu.

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      1. NY_Gunner

        @HA559
        Yet you and a few others here were shouting about how well Ranieri “motivates” his squad to win…He’s motivating them right into relegation. Whatever could be the problem? Is it him or the players? Or maybe the LC board…

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  14. HA559

    The reason all the teams below aren’t calling for their managers to be sacked is because they have new managers or are improving. We stay on the same level if not worse in some seasons.

    Tottenham, improving from last year, only a few defeats and the best defence in the league.

    Liverpool, playing better football under Klopp, they’re problem is not being able to play and beat the smallest teams. They don’t even have top striker fit in their team and they’re still up there.

    Manu and Manc have new manager. They maybe hounded out next season or the season after if things don’t go well.

    Us? We’re still the same. Look at the points difference between winners of previous seasons and us. Most of the time we finished double figure points behind them. Not to mention last 16 team in UCL for past 5 seasons.

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  15. HA559

    We used to dominated almost 3/4 of the teams in the league for 60-70 minutes a few seasons back with the exception of those that were in the top 5, where it varied.

    These days we dominate most of the teams for 30 minutes tops. The passing game is so rubbish as well now. Sometimes we end up having 0 chances and 0 shots on target in the first half.

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  16. reddb10

    The players dont give a s##t because there is no one to hold them accountable and give them a good old bollocking. Oh and calling arsenal fans fickle just proves we will always have deluded akbs who put wenger before the club.
    Not only are we not fickle, we have more pacience than any other group of supporters in world football. If wenger the underachiever was at any other club there would be riots.
    Kroenke Gazidis, wenger OUT

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  17. ger burke

    to call being humiliated by our arch enemy, chelsea, a little defeat, proves the author is taking the mick here.too many wenger fans still out there , get real and smel the coffee.

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  18. Gworm

    I know the reason I’m so disappointed this season is that I thought we finally had a team which was genuinely good enough to challenge at the top level. Last year was supposed to be our year, but we fluffed our lines. This year we have strengthened in key areas and it has looked at times as if the right ingredients were going to produce the pudding. That’s why this season’s failure to fly has been so frustrating. We’ve lost easy games, struggled against teams that others have steamrollered, and not turned up on the big occasions. I’ve lost faith and think it’s time for a change.

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  19. Bolly from Borehamwood

    Are you for real Sam P? All fans of all teams go mad when they lose!

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  20. Fatboy Gooney

    Go Mad? 😮 Noooo, it’s the deluded management that’s gone Mad, raving mad, I tell yah 😂

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