Posted on September 01, 2014 by ADMIN

WOW! Welbeck stats suggest Arsenal get Giroud upgrade!

I can understand why Arsenal fans are less than thrilled about us signing Danny Welbeck. After the hope of getting Falcao and due to the last minute nature of the transfer, it feels like Arsene Wenger is settling for second best, but I have just been looking at Welbeck’s stats for last season and you will not believe what I found.

Remember that he only played 25 Premier League games for Man United last season, with quite a few of them as sub and that he was not in the centre forward position which he is likely to take for Arsenal. According to the comparison matrix on Squawka.com and going by a score per 90 minutes, Welbeck beats the Frenchman in most of the key areas.

His overall score (27.39 to 18.1), his attacking (24.1 to 22.33), his goals scored (0,55 to 0.47) and his shooting accuracy (53% to 43%) are all better. Giroud comes out better on assists and chances created but he was playing down the middle and Arsenal did have a much better season than United in general.

Welbeck is also faster so can offer different options and he is only 23-years old. So before you make up your minds that Welbeck is a second rate striker and that his transfer to Arsenal is a disaster, maybe we should give him a chance to show us what he can do down the middle with the likes of Ozil, Alexis and Walcott around him.

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283 thoughts on “WOW! Welbeck stats suggest Arsenal get Giroud upgrade!

  1. Bob Post author

    Arsenal have asked for an extension to get Welbeck done according to Sky

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      1. muffdiver

        so no dm no cb, an danny welbeck who is not an out an out goalscorer.

        yep……COYG

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    1. Twig

      I hope the FA doesn’t grant them the wish. Why didn’t they do the deal yesterday? :/

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      1. muffdiver

        or dm, but look it was fun while it lasted…fun like being beaten with a wasps nest, like walking in on shaka hislop nailing your wife….u get the jist

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      2. mula1

        Why let Miguel leave when he is not getting a CB, i think with the time granted we are pulling something and there will be news to cheer about tomorrow morning..

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  2. goonerwineverything

    THIS WELBECK STORY HAS GROWN LEGS ATM BUT NO OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION FROM ANY ARSENAL OFFICIALS OR MAN U OFFICIALS THOUGH JUST TALK THROUGH THE RUMORS ATM

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    1. RWRW

      Calm down you girl

      Its going to happen. We have asked for extension and it has been accepted. That s$hit doesnt get reported for no reason

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      1. goonerwineverything

        but no officail talk out of offical club sources just general talk coming from goodness knows where wheres wenger when you need him to talk it might get downgraded to aloan yet if wenger gets involved lol

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      2. goonerwineverything

        got a funny feeling the falcao deal might go belly up yet at this late stage and we wont get welbeck as untied will need him as cover they will get us back for vermaelen yet the sods

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  3. DANDY GUNNER

    What are some of you guy on Welbeck is shit. We needed a top class striker and MAN UTD got
    Falco we got shit ( Welbeck ) . NO AMBITION FROM WENGER AND THE ARSENAL BOARD.
    WENGER OUT>

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    1. RSH

      they been tricked by old man Wenger. Got everyone nice and desperate so they would be satisfied with another average striker.

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    2. dee23

      How is Welbeck shit? Welbeck is proven in the Premier league. The same way Remy would play better with Arsenal’s midfielders supplying him so would Welbeck. Sure, Cavani or Falcao would have been nice but what would paying a player over 300 grand a week do to the dressing room and the harmony of the team when others are getting 90 and less? Welbeck will thrive at Arsenal and you’ll be kissing his balls and singing his praises when he scores his first goal. Superstars don’t always make it in the Prem. I bet man city fans were getting gushy when they signed Robinho till he flopped.

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      1. DANDY GUNNER

        The old proverb you pay peanuts you get monkeys in other words you pay for Quality.
        We have all heard Mr Wenger bang on about Quality but that all he does is talk about Quality but he has no intention of buying Quality he is a Cheap man who will never change. Every year we hear the same old story ( we will only buy Quality) and he goes a buy’s SHIT. WENGER OUT

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        1. 100percentARSE

          Oksay to be fair i didnt think Calum Chambers was that great as a Right back when we signed him for 16ml i was thinking hes just another jenkinson but what a player he is at just 19 years old all he has done is Impress me to jump into the team a play centre back the way he has is incredible, So to write of Danny Welbeck for 16ml is harsh.. the guy can real a player with his speed and dribbling skills and hes not a bad finisher when it comes to his age hes decent hes British too so i welcome that with ease and hes In the Senior Squad for our National team If you want to talk about Quality So fair David Ospina is Quality Calum Chambers has been Quality Debuchy has been Quality And Alexis well do i need to say anything about his Calibre? We have Replaces TV5 with Chambers Replaced Sagna with someone better we’ve added fire power upfront aswell now keeping Joel Adding alexis and theos coming back the only thing Wenger has failed todo AGAIN! Which is the only thing im truly fxxking furious about is not Bringing in a Defensive Midfielder how the fxxk has he not signed someone to take Arteta and Flamini’s Role i dont know..Does he still think Coquelin is going to step up or something or has Abou Diaby’s extensive Fitness plans been a success? Remember Diaby’s been doing alot of hard work to make sure he stays fit with our new physio If He can stay strong for the whole season then we could be in luck but hey this is diaby im talking about i know thats a shot in the dark.

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          1. Gorgo Italiano

            @Dandy Gunner

            Pay peanuts get monkeys?

            So I presume Chambers, Remy, Balloteli, Walcott, Ox, Gnabry, Henry, and anyone else 16 million or under is a monkey?

            Brainless comment.

            Why don’t you stop wetting the bed and act like an adult. Wellbeck will be a fine addition to the team, imo. He can do everything Giroud can do only he’s a guy with genuine pace. He will also get to play in his favoured position of Centre Forward with us. Everyone on here moans about the lack of pace for Ozil to do what he does best and now we get it in Sanchez, Walcott and Wellbeck and folk like you still have a primary school girl type hissy fit.

            Ubelievable Jeff

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            1. DANDY GUNNER

              Another Wenger Lover Buy the Remy is shit as for wetting the bed have you a problem poor guy.

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              1. Gorgo Italiano

                Are you mentally challenged, dude?

                My post has absolutely nothing to do with being a Wenger lover. It’s all about the team and the reasons I’m sure Wellbeck will be a good fit for us. I’ve clearly explained that to you. You are incapable of rational thought because you are too busy stamping and crying and gnashing your teeth to be reasonable about this.

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    3. Gunnerphyte

      What a stupid move by Man u, letting Welbeck go. and of all teams, they sell him to us! LVG just made us strong title contenders! Welbeck is a quality player and the best part is; he’s only 23! He’s got good pace, good movement, good link up play, good ball control, good work ethic, excellent attitude. if u think a player of such qualities is shit, then u r the one who is shit!

      The only reason he hasnt been a prolific goal scorer is that he was played out of position most of last season, in addition to that, Man u have always had mediocre midfielders when it comes to creativity. Compare that to Giroud whose main excuse for not scoring goals is the ingredible ability to miss sitters! with the quality of midfielders we have, Welbeck’s gonna do far better than giroud…he is even capable of hitting 25 premier league goals!

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    4. Luko Bratzi

      Ya damed if you do and damed if you don’t stop bloody winging and wait to see him in action then make your decision. CB

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  4. arsenal19

    Has falcao or welbeck gone through if we get welbeck and they don’t I would laugh so hard

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  5. cardo87

    We’ve applied for more time?! Jeez.
    Apparently falcao has failed part of his medical. But that’s only from some united fans over there tonight I know.

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  6. Rémy

    Okay, so now I am gonna have a seizure.. For God sake who wouldn’t wenger say “NO” to maybe Ronaldo, Messi prolly bale if they were offered to us.. This is too much to take.. “Same s*!t different air freshner” .. Suck a d!*k wenger!!! Surprised how welbeck is our Improvement..

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    1. Gorgo Italiano

      Are you wearing a massive pair of clown shoes?
      Why do you have to act like such a woman?

      Calm down, for goodness sake.

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  7. Jimbeam

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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      1. muffdiver

        now now , theres more to life than that……when i know what that is i’l be in touch

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  8. Rock

    So finally ds headache is over nd wenger lie to us nd failed us once again

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      1. 100percentARSE

        “We will bring in atleast 1-2 more players 1 for sure a defender” He lied, We was never in for Danny welbeck it was just there to take at the end if welbeck pushed for Tottenham we’d prob be sitting here saying no CB no CDM no CF?!

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        1. jonestown1

          That is not the full transcript. He said they were trying to and said “but you never know etc” as he always does. Man United couldn’t get a centre back – perhaps we had a problem as well.

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  9. TongaBull

    Mother F*cker Wenger no Defender and Marco Reus… U INEPT SON OF A FRENCH B**TCH

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  10. GOONSTER

    My only consolation is that we kept CAMPBELL…

    This is what is keeping me smiling..

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    1. RSH

      but he will barley get any gametime now, especially since were signing Welbeck. Feel sorry for the guys. World Cup star, did well in pre-season… still doesnt get a shout and Wenger buys someone who is not even as good as him.

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    2. HA559

      Yes you are right there, hopefully he gets games as does Rosicky and Podolski.

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  11. HA559

    Only a fool goes into the new season thinking their title contenders with only two recognized centrebacks.

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  12. HA559

    So this is the reason we need to quality to champions league to get players like Welbeck. Meanwhile Di Maria, Falcao, Blind, Rojo and Herrera give up CHampions League football for a team not in the champions league? Tell me who has the ambition

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    1. Gigi2

      well one things for sure, the bidding war is a bitch but players who prefer more money without UCL…..
      sad, sad, sad,
      saddest part is wenger should have known by now,
      i am thinking he goes to cónsult a médium….

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  13. Daedric_Lord

    no defender, no steel in midfield, we will be raped vs chelsea, liverpool and even utd

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  14. Goontz

    Grade of our transfer window (5 points in total):

    – GK: Ospina = +1
    – CB: Chambers = +0.5
    – RB: Debuchy = +1
    – DM: Poop = -1
    – ST: Welbeck = + 0.5
    – Bonus: Sanchez = +0.5

    Total: 2.5/5. But wait, there’s Diaby to the rescue to make it a 3.5/5! lol

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  15. Ronny331

    Just come home to see no dm or cb have been signed, no one?! Is this right?! Welbeck may be coming if so lets not start on him he’ll be an upgrade on sanogo. Wenger and ivan counting the money ndrom fab vela and verm deals. I want in fact demand an explanation!

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  16. Arsenal Fan

    I have been one of them people who have laughed at Welbecks performances for Man U. But than again I have laughed at Liverpool for buying Sturridge, how wrong I was at an ex Man city and Chelsea failure.
    Welbeck suits Arsenal style and is young enough to develop into a decent player. Before the day I wouldn’t of said I wanted Welbeck that’s for sure. But that’s because we can go for the top european players around now. But with the likes of Walcott, Ox, Ramsay, Wilsire, Gibss, Chambers…and now Welbeck, why can’t they all develop into top British Talent together. Mixed in with the likes of Carzola, Özil, Sanchez, Giroud… Any many more signings in the future, our squad will develop

    What we have done, is spend £80m in this window with a direct RB replacement who has started well, a young British defender who has shown he can be the future for both club and country, a goalkeeper who will not want to be 2nd choice, a top player brought at his prime and already shown to becoming a legend, and possibly a 23yr old who could become the future England centre striker for years to come…

    Welbeck has shown he has talent, ability and now needs to apply that at arsenal. I think he can, and will. We do not need to rely on him like Man U needed, we can allow him to develop…and I think he will. The guys 23, it’s only fair he is given the support, both by this team mates and the fans.

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  17. dutti_S

    I’m so glad we got Welbeck instead of Falcao, the latter is 5 years older and obviously at his peak but coming off of a serious ACL injury, commanding close to $5000,000 a week and famously having a Real Madrid come get me fetish I ‘d say we did good business. Outside of Rooney & Sturridge, Welbeck is the best English striker in the game for better or for worse, and personally I think he could easily rival Sturridge with the same amount of game time.
    Falcao was a publicity buy for United, they let their biggest workhorse run right into our arms.

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  18. maxwell

    HAHAHHAHAHAH F******* CLASS WENGER, STILL NOT EVEN GOT WELBECK, THEY HAVE JUST APPLIED FOR AN EXTENSION TO GET THE DEAL DONE.

    WENGER I AM SORRY, YOU ARE ONE OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS BUT YOU WILL NEVER LEAD ARSENAL TO WINING THE LEAGUE OR CL WITH THIS TEAM. YOU HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNTIES TO SIGN PLAYERS BUT YOU DONT.

    IT WOULD BE BETTER I THINK FOR THE FANS IF YOU ACTUALLY COME OUT AND TELL THEM YOU HAVE NO INTENTION OF SIGNING PLAYERS, RATHER THAN FEED THEM LIES.

    WE HAVE NO SUPPORT AT THE BACK, NO CDM, PLAYERS INJURY PRONE, YOU HAVE ACTUALLY MADE A “””””PROFIT ” “”””””””” DURING THIS WINDOW.

    NO OTHER TOP 4-5 TEAMS WOULD LEAVE THERE SELF IN THIS POSITION WE ARE IN, YOU WILL NOW BLAME SCHEDULES FOR INJURIES AND BAD RESULTS.

    ENJOY YOUR TIME IN F******* ITALY.

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  19. gunho

    So let down, not over welbeck but for the fact no defence midfielder, top 4 best we can hope for no chance of the title, going to be a long season and a short champions league run

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  20. dutti_S

    Haha, no worries about a DM coz we’ve got Diaby!
    He’s like a new signing all over again, and again…

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  21. dutti_S

    I still think we can thrive without a new DM, but I must admit I’m disappointed about not getting a CB and losing Ignasi.

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  22. dutti_S

    It’s a lose lose for United if they don’t make it to 4TH( WHICH THEY WON’T). If Falcao flops they’ve rented an overpaid 28 year old dud, and if he gets the Golden Boot then Madrid will swoop for an astronomical price and he’ll move on in a heartbeat. That’s what Arsenal would have had to have looked forward to. The more I think about it I’m glad we bought British, we hold the nucleus of English footballs future. It’s only going to be annoying when the Euro qualifiers come along. With so many players from one international squad we need to be like Bayern and have and have a better than average bench.
    #diabyisreal #afc4lyf

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  23. DANDY GUNNER

    WHY ARE YOU ALL SURPRISED THAT WENGER DID NOT BRING IN ONE /TWO QUALITY PLAYERS. THE MAN IS A BORN LIAR. NEVER BELIEVE A MAN WHO KEEPS SNIGGERING WHEN ASKED A QUESTION. WENGER OUT. IN WENGER WE RUST.

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  24. TJ

    Pleased we got Welbeck…I rate that lad and he’s an “Arsenal” type player. Not worried about our attacking capabilities once our guys start sync’ing up and with Walcott back.
    Conjecture only:
    1. AW has been given very positive news about Diaby from Shad Forsythe and this is his surprise for fans. A fit and strong Diaby who isn’t going to break down. Now it makes sense he won’t talk about it…just bring him on in a game and let his performance do the talking.
    2. JW10 is being converted into a midfield destroyer (without imploding himself please)
    3. Callum Chambers is being developed into a CM/DM for the long term, and to be used as RB cover when needed.
    4. Coquelin – we don’t know where he is at with his development at this point, but might have shown some “Ramsey-like” jump in quality.

    These are all possibilities which might have taken the pressure off getting a Carvalho or Khedira, etc.
    The system of 4-3-3 (or 42121) puts less of a dependence on an out-n-out DM, as it’s the collective effort of the mid-3 to break down attacks and cover the back 4.
    For example…..

    Debuchy – Mert- Kos-Monreal
    Diaby Ramsey
    Ozil
    Walcott Sanchez
    Welbeck

    We have good depth in almost all positions (perhaps a tad light on CB): Ospina, Carzola, TR7, JW, Ox, Campbell, Sanogo, Gnabry, Zelalem, Flamini (utility man for LB/RB as well), Arteta, Chambers, Gibbs, OG12, Coquelin, Bellerin.

    This is a solid squad which is more than capable of challenging for the title. Challenging for the title requires a squad who will work hard all season and deliver consistent results. It means collecting more points than any other team over the course of 38 games and not a direct comparison between teams on a player/position basis…if you want to do that…hand the trophy over to ManC now. All the top teams go on runs and hit some slumps…the top teams with character, spirit and determination have longer runs and shorter slumps. That’s what I want from our Gunners and that’s what I am sure they will strive to deliver!

    COYG!!!!

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  25. gunnerman8701

    Welbeck is not bad and we will get used to him and support him plus he is only 23 bur I am not happy we didn’t get a DM as I think we lacking there. If Diaby is really back and behind his injury, then it makes sense. Otherwise, we will lose again against top teams.

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  26. Kay-Solo

    We’ve been duped by the ‘Specialist in Failure.’ He’s such a winkled chicken butt.

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  27. Gorgo Italiano

    Some of the comments on this page are sickening.

    Folk really have to stop acting like children and think about what they are typing.

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  28. Governor95

    It’s too early to say if he’s an upgrade or not. He needs to be given 2-3 weeks to settle in and then we will see what he offers the team. I think he’s a great signing because he offers something different to Giroud, PACE . Really hope he gets a chance to play through the middle also as im afraid Wenger might play him out left.

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