It has all but been confirmed that Aaron Ramsey and Arsenal will be parting ways next year, with the only question being whether it will be in January or July. But obviously the biggest question on everyone’s lips will be where he is going to end up where he leaves.
I know I have questioned in the past as to why everyone thinks that some of Europe’s best teams would be interested, with previous rumours listing Man City, Chelsea and numerous Italian teams being linked with the Welshaman, but now it would appear, well according to Sky Sports anyway, that even the richest club in the world is keen on him. The Sky report said….
Paris Saint-Germain are keen to hold talks with Aaron Ramsey next month when he is free to speak to foreign clubs about a summer switch, according to Sky sources.
With his current contract expiring in June 2019, the Arsenal midfielder can negotiate with interested teams from abroad from January 1st.
Juventus have been working on a deal to sign the Wales international, according to Sky in Italy, while Bayern Munich have also shown an interest, according to Sky Germany.
But Sky in Italy believe the Bianconeri are ahead of competition for the 27-year-old, including Serie A rivals Inter Milan.
Now a few years ago, if it was written ‘Sky understands…’ you would usually believe it to be from the horses mouth, but just reading this particular report, it would seem that all the different Sky’s in different countries have a different idea on who is more likely to sign him, so who can you believe?
But from all these reports you could would think that he really would go to a “top-end” club like PSG or Bayern Munich and actually get a game? I can understand that they may sign him for free, but is he good enough to become a regular starter at either of those clubs? Or would he just be happy to sit on the bench at a much higher wage?
Darren N
They are free to sign him and start him if they have no ambition of winning the champions league
Ship out Ramsey, and Ozil in January, and sign two, or one if we can get Nelson back. Does anyone want Iwobi as well?
Yes we can get Nelson back and fans will want him out in less than 3 months.
Emery will just be the next coach in line cause he decides to play week players in place of Rambo. Wishing the Welshman well wherever he goes and am going to miss his energy and patriotism as well but he’s going to win trophies in any of these clubs. Cheers
Well he should be playing harder if he wants to get an offer from a top club.
But I can only see him as a squad player for a top team, not straight into the starting line-up. He would be a good squad player
In fact even if he stayed I would prefer we get a better, more creative central midfielder and he was just a squad player
Good for him, and also the best decision for Arsenal, Ozil, Iwobi,Koscielny,Elneny,Litchtesner,Monreal, should please follow Ramsey. They are all weak, unreliable and untrusted in Arsenal shirt
Koscielny can stay and coach and play off the bench. We owe it to him for the great service he’s given us over the years. He could have left us for a top team but stayed. A former World class defender is a worth retaining as a coach
You don’t think Monreal is even good enough for the bench? Do you expect us to fill the bench with world class players? Kroenke isn’t Daddy Moneybags you know. He isn’t going to spend that much
I agree with Kos and Monreal.
I also agree that Silent Stan will not loan Arsenal hundreds of millions interest free over infinite time to buy a squad of marquee signings…
I do feel that jumping straight to that point overlooks how bad Gazidis was for us this past decade, the volume of bad calls which have cost Arsenal hundreds of millions… That gets overlooked if we jump straight to Silent Stan.
Gazidis said yes to Ozil wage. Gazidis was going to pay Rambo what he wanted. Gazidis refused to make a little extra available for Laca and got Perez instead who wasn’t used and shoved out on loan by the manager. Gazidis tried to penny pinch too much and we seen clear signs of this with the Auba deal, how Wenger was excluded from it and his cries for a CB was not answered because Gazidis spent so long trying to penny pinch. I’m not saying Evans could have been good enough to get us UCL football but the fact remains that we needed a CB and Gazidis didn’t allocate time to get one because he was too focused on saving a few £££ in Germany. That penny pinching attitude has cost us million upon millions over the years.
During Gazidis early years, he was selling our future to ensure the sale of the club went smoothly. Did he push to get a record fee for any of our players? We had some nice talent which was wanted by teams with money and we only got what was rumored to have been the difference in participating in the UCL and not, excluding any progression we made.
We can spend what we make, same as UTD, UTD can spend on Pogba and Lukaku while we penny pinched HARD on our record signings, Auba and Laca. That penny pinching meant we had to pay more for Laca as well.
Neither one of the teams are bankrolled, both of them can only invest what they make, one invested big and got big while the other invested safe and got small. Gazidis has no footballs and played it safe too often rather than backing in the team and believing in the team.
UTD is a good example as they was a laughing stock with Jose. They backed him early on though and he got what he wanted in Pogba and Lukaku, does anyone honestly believe they will not back their next manager? They are not bankrolled yet I do believe opinion on spending between the two are massively different. For me, this then becomes a question of who is better ran as a business.
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The fact that three of the top club sides in Europe are apparently interested in Ramsay suggests to me that we should retain him and endeavour to unload Ozil who is clearly not suited to the high pressing hard running game favoured by Emery.The problem is that no Club in Europe is likely to match his current wage structure which was one of the final examples of business incompetence displayed by Mr Wenger prior to his departure.In essence we are stuck with Ozil and Ramsay has to go.
Wenger?
Rambo was offered a load by Gazidis and was playing hard ball over new deal, Wenger had left but offer was on the table still… Gazidis leaves and offer gets pulled.
Do you see a conflict in what happened and what you proclaim?
The contract decision was changed when CEO left, not the ex manager.
Why blame the ex manager and not ex CEO?
Midkemma, it’s because it suits the argument that the ex manager was blamed for everything that went wrong.
Long term injuries, running contracts down and bad signings were all “supposedly” in the hands of our ex manager who was responsible to no one and power crazy.
However, it seems we are still getting long term injuries, losing a player worth anything from £20-£40,000,000 in transfer value for nothing and signing bad players ( Lichsteiner ) whilst wasting the transfer kitty that Kronkie allows the club to spend.
We are still seeing a defence that leaks like a sieve and, it seems, not being coached properly.
That, despite signing four new defensive players and offering new, improved contracts to three other current defensive players. Business Incompetence??
Some on here have been saying that Ramsey would be looked at by “bigger clubs”, just because he is good enough to attract that kind of attention.
How right it seems we were to believe this would be the case.
It is the incompetence of some of our fans to realise that Gazidis was in control of contracts during Ozil and Ramsey’s contracts that amazes me.
I also remember the incompetence of the same fans who are now moaning about Ozils salary, actually demanding that we offer Ozil anything in order to keep him and prove that we were a “big club”!!!
They had their wishes granted by gazidis and kronkie.
Ramsey has to go because of the business incompetence of the current decision makers and has nothing to do with the ex manager who, when he left the club, believed that Ramsey would stay.
Business incompetence?
But wasn’t the ex manager slated for ensuring that he made the profits Kronkie wanted every single year?
Wasn’t that the reason given for Kronkie wanting to keep him as manager?
Let’s forget the revenue brought into the club by twenty years of CL qualification etc etc because that doesn’t fit the picture.
The club is now bigger and richer (source: forbes) than at any time in it’s history and you say “business incompetence”??
The ex manager ensured that his personal salary was paid for each year, bar his last two, by qualifiying for the CL…all the above are examples of business competence, but not as you know it it seems.
Ken, To read your homage to Wenger one might well conclude that he did nothing wrong, though you have posted that his last two years were not good. But before that, Ken? Did he do ANYTHING wrong in your eyes? Just curious to know, as it seems to me you think he was perfect and blameless till those last two years when he “suddenly changed”. No criticism at all of the Denilsons and Senderos’, Silvestres, Djourous, Santos(fullback) Schillachis and other “world class” CB s he chose for us? Or was all that down to Gazidis, would you say? Rather like those who love Ozil and see NO fault , no idleness, no mental and physical frailty but only a constant string of world class through balls, which hardly exist to some of us. The ones without rose tinted specs for example! Like me AND MANY OTHERS TOO.
Jon, of course I will reply, but before I do that, could you explain what you saw in my post that made you ask the question?
Really curious as to what you AND SO MANY OTHERS find difficult to accept regarding AW’s business competence, when I gave the kronkie example you AND SO MANY OTHERS used as a negative?
Perhaps you could even answer point by point from the last paragraph especially….thanks.
He’s actually one of our more decent players, yes makes mistakes but gives 100% and try’s bloody hard, unlike some…..
No one knows what wages he wants but I feel we should try to keep him!
I would rather keep Ramsey than Iwobi even if he does want he wants when on the pitch.
I’d get rid of both of them Arsemirates, but must admit even I would prefer Ramsey to the incredibly hopeless Iwobi.
Iwobi, Xhaka, Mkhitayrian, under performing Ozil, (hate to say that) Mustafi, Bellerin, we’ve got some real s””t in the side, can’t believe we’re 5th to be honest. Major changes needed at our club. Thank goodness for Auba. Where would we be without him? And to some extent Laca.
Can’t wait to see the January transfer window drama
I’ve got an idea, why don’t we start some kind of bidding war in january for Ramsey with clubs such as Inter, Juventus, Milan and PSG. We might actually be able to get some money for this greedy below average player,,,,,.
he should have been shipped out 3 years ago only wenger’s diminishing grasp on football reality kept him on board … that said i would actually prefer him in midfield to xhaka who is actually even less useful and its very worrying that emery continues to play him allover the park … history they say repeats itself first as tragedy then as farce
rkw, and yet it seems that clubs like PSG, Bayern Munich and Inter Milan are interested in him three years after you say we should have shipped him out.
I think the diminishing grasp on football reality sums up your view on the situation unless of course you think the three teams mentioned above are also losing their grasp on your reality football?
In case you have forgotten, Unai Emery wanted him to stay from the very beginning.
it wasn’t his footballing expertise that made AFC take the agreed contract off the table, it was the salary situation that was reported as the stumbling block.
It was his greed and his agents ridiculous stance that has given us this result and AFC lose out on £20-£40,000,000 in transfer fees.
who knows ken … fake football news is ubiquitous remember barcelona’s interest in him … and these rumours are mainly about the summer when they might take him on a free …dont think any top club watching his cameo appearances this season is thinking “a must have” player … and please remember that i correctly predicted that would be his role under emery though as i said am bewildered that emery persists with xhaka as a starter … though i am tbh beginning to doubt that emery football follows any actual style and is more an ad hoc results-based approach which reminds me of van gaal at man utd and will more than likely end up going the same way
Maybe PSG interested in swapping Ramsey for Rabiot? Could be great for both teams. Otherwise Ramsey can go; 10 years with us and a good squad player, but not for excessive wages.
Maybe swap him for a winger in Jan, bring Nelson back and loan Iwobi.
Whereas I agree with rkw about shipping him out 3 years ago I also agree with him about Xhaka, however Durand’s idea of swapping him with Rabiot would definitely be the perfect scenario
Good luck to him
So I read a report in which emery is saying Ramsey should focus on arsenal, I want to ask for What? After freezing him out of the team perpetually. And it’s good to see fans in here saying he’s not good enough. Take a break, he’s been our player of the year twice and even in the few times he’s played this season, you can always notice he’s a talented footballer.
I don’t get why we’ll always make excuses for others but Ramsay and a few others. Like most here, I can’t wait for him to be gone but for a different reason, I want him to go on to a big club and prove he’s indeed a world-class player. Can’t wait for him to show that it was the club that impeded his growth rather than the other way round.
As opposed to always playing regardless of form for a decade? Ramsey had plenty of opportunities over the last decade to prove his qualities; resulting in a squad player.
Can’t dribble, undisciplined, stupid flicks rather than simple distribution, to name a few. And you think he will magically get it together by changing clubs?
He’s a mediocre player with over inflated opinion of his abilities.
Ask yourself how many top clubs, or any clubs have been in for him over the last several years? Even when he was holding out for huge wages no one tried to transfer him this Summer.
Arsenal was very generous with him; playing time and wages. I say its time for both him and club to move on. I wish him the best, but not worried in the slightest we will be harmed by his departure.
Thanks for that mate…. The way ppl put down our own players especially that served us for 10 years is unbelievable…we have no respect even for that anymore…ppl sayin Ramsey asked too much as if they are paying it from their own pockets… Does anyone even have a clue just how much English clubs will be getting in the coming years? For How much other players in the big 6 are getting deals? Ramsey is a great player and we are loosing him. The simplest we can say is thank you and wish him a good luck
Has Ramsey contributed significantly to Arsenal campaign in all competitions during the first half of the season that ended in mid week of this week? Because of his being a top quality player, I’ve wanted Arsenal to retained him beyond next summer. But after a second thought, for his not scoring regularly for Arsenal nor giving productive end assists regularly for Arsenal to score goals in their matches in all competitions during the 1st half of this season’s campaign, i have changed my mind of seeing him continuing playing at Arsenal beyond the coming January window this season when he should be sold to the club that needs his services. But Arsenal will need to replace him with a better than him immediately in the same January window so as not to leave the important role that Ramsey is playing in the team unattended to thus handicap the team of top quality senior option. But does Arsenal have the money to sign a better top quality midfielder than Ramsey early in next January window? Well, I don’t know. But in addition to Arsenal signing of a top quality attacking midfielder in January window if they find one that suit their purpose and also have the money to do his signing, but still, Arsenal will need to do a top quality senior striker signing in the same January window to replace Welbeck with him in the first team squad who probably could be English preferably. Or a home grown player. Or alternatively, promote Emilie Smith-Rowe into the 1st team squad in January. But is he strong enough to cut a senior top quality player grade in the senior team squad for the 2nd half campaign of this season? Are Saka, Willock, Nkethia and Medley ready as from January to truly break in into the senior team squad? AMN has broken in into the first team squad already. He was impressive in the Brighton game but he’ll need to improve on his ball retention in the attacking 3rd when put under pressure by the opposition. So that he doesn’t lose the ball but finish what he intended to do with it. Let him skillfully learned how to evade the opposition tackles in the attacking 3rd as well.
The only good thing about the great football writers on this site is that they never dear to mention a little bit of statistics when they talk about the likes of Ramsey and Iwobi ?????
Yeah, it just so happens that I’ve been telling these pages about his 37 goals from 250 games for the past 18 months.
Kenny, Not sure whether your ” 37 goals in 250 games” is meant as “wow, what a lot! ” OR ” is that all? “. Care to clarify please? I am in the “is that all” camp, personally. If you try to seriously compare Ramsey to Gerrard or Lampard – I DON’T say that you DO – he just doesn’t measure up in TRUE greats company. Yet he thinks himself worthy of their type wage, which he clearly is not worthy of and the club has called his bluff. Worth keeping around BUT ONLY at the right price wage. But that will not now be happening. Not heartbroken personally NOR even that sorry, though I would have preferred to keep him, had he been wage rational.
Jon. you know my thoughts on Ramsey, No I’m definitely in the “is that all” brigade, even you’re beloved Walcott (joke) got 100 goals. For an attacking midfielder 37 goals in 250 Premier League games is the biggest joke of all
What a relief to know how you feel. Sorry though that I needed to ask. So many on here have so many different views, which is no surprise at all, and I just don’t always remember at my dinosaur age who thinks what and who disagrees.
What would Iwobi’s stats be?? Most arm flaps?? Most passes to the opposition??
Some say iwobi made it big by hard work and dedication.
Some say it’s magical footwork that dazzles the fans
Some say it’s is Phatt arse
I just think he had a famous uncle who had some connections but what do I know maybe it was one of the other reasons
Mad – to get rid of Ramsey. He’s perfect Emery type player, works tirelessly , totally professional, and scores important goals.
And perhaps most importantly – is a big game player for sure.
Crazy he not playing more. Iwobi is not even half the player.
Need a massive signing to fill his boots and make it a wise decision
Yeah, so perfect he don’t play him.
As Kenny Rolfe states Ramsey has scored 37 goals in 250 appearances.
I’m sure that on a free transfer many prominent clubs will be willing to sign a player of his age and experience; however whether they will pay Ramsey the wages he thinks he deserves. Time will tell, but he like Ozil ultimately will, has priced himself out of the Club.
Ozzie, I refer to your final sentence and the “…..Ozil (has) priced himself out of the market”. I have struck a £100 bet with KEN 1945, who thinks he will still be here next season but I say the club will have off loaded him by the close of next summer transfer window. Are you saying the same as me OR the same as Ken?
jon, I can’t say when it will happen, but selling Ozil will free up £300k+ in wages, which Arsenal can invest in 3 good players to address the deficiencies in the squad. Once Ramsey wanted a massive increase in his wages, he stopped being “value fo money” and management wouldn’t repeat the mistake made with Ozil. There is better value in the market eg Rabiot is on approx £60k with PSG.
The “business incompetence” I referred to was the decision to award a huge pay rise to an individual , namely Ozil, who in my view had done nothing to justify such an obscene salary.Whether or not Wenger was involved in the negotiations, and I very much suspect he was,is not relevant.The fact is the decision was wrong and the performances of Ozil since then have proved this to be the case.
Grandad, Totally correct and also a total disgrace and gross financial incompetence too. We are now paying the regressive price of this stupid decision, which Wenger must either have sanctioned or instigated. Not sure which!