Are Man City going to dominate the EPL for next five years?

We are all talking about Arsenal fighting to get back into the Premier League Top Four to qualify for the Champions League but to be honest the chances of us actually challenging for the title are pretty slim right now, especially with the new spending power of Jurgen Klopp at Liverpool. Jose Mourinho will be squeezing every last penny out of the Glazers to get Man United up and challenging City, but Pep Guardiola’s bosses have unlimited spending power to maintain their domination that we saw this year.

Realistically those three are going to be the main challengers for the title for the forseeable future, and then you have Chelsea, who are title winners in two of the last four years. They may be in flux with Abramovich’s visa problems, but you can never write them off as non-challengers. And then we get the thorny problem of our noisy neighbours the Spuds, who see to get better every year with Pochettino. So we are going to have problems getting into the Top Four anyway even if we see Emery performing miracles.

But this is just how hard a problem we have at Arsenal, but what about the teams above us trying to get past City? They face just as hard a job, and our old defender Bacary Sagna thinks Pep Guardiola is going to totally dominate the Premier League now…

Sagna said: “Yeah, they will (dominate) – and for a long time because they are based on young players.

“Most of them are 22, 23 and they are building a team to last for the five years coming (up). I think they are going to achieve well.

“To me, they’re going to be champions for a few years in a row. I think they are even going to win the Champions League.

“It’s going to be a big statement from the club because 10 years ago it was very small and it has changed a lot.

“This season I was amazed by the way they played against big teams, how they played in every single competition and by the way they reached 100 points.

“It’s not done by every single team but they did and they have no limits and a manager who will push them.

“He wants them to give the maximum and he wants to get the best out of every single player. To me, they are going to be flying.”

Could this be true? Will Arsenal only be fighting for a Top Four place for years and years?



  1. Dan says:

    Can see city dominating the prem league for next few years with biggest challengers being Liverpool and maybe man u depending on the players they bring in but klopp is building a fantastic team and can push city all the way would love to say arsenal but unfortunately they are a million miles away from challenging and can see them finishing outside the top 6 next season!!!

    1. Someone says:

      Arsenal finishing OUTSIDE OF TOP 6 !!!!!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS ??? Arsenal was one of the best attacking sides in europe last season , we were let down by our defense which was 90% wenger’s fault , now we are getting a new cb , new cdm and probably a new GK , and i am optimistic that we can WIN THE LEAGUE next season.

      1. Phil says:

        Ok – I absolutely LOVE your enthusiasm and respect your comments on both out attack and defence.Can we win the league?.Yes.Will we win the league?Most likely not.Citeh are too established and their set up now under Gardiola is likely to remain so I just cannot see beyond them for next season.But if we can improve our defence and win the games against all the lower teams that we lost against last season then we should accept nothing less than a top 4 finish as a minimum.
        I have good feelings for the Club moving forward and we have many very good players.The problem is Citeh have many fantastic footballers and a manager who knows how to win matches.

      2. jon fox says:

        DISAGREE! BUT ONLY WITH THE “90%”. You could argue that much was down to the rotten defenders but I WOULD ARGUE THAT SINCE Wenger bought them, picked them and then chose not to coach them (since he has no understanding of defence whatever, so could not coach then anyway), it is ACTUALLY 100% HIS FAULT. Even now, I still wake up each morning and remember he is gone and am in a good mood straightaway. Really.

        1. Ackshay says:

          same for me jon but kroenke gets me worried, that leech has got his teeth sunk deep in our club and i fear usmanov will get tired of waiting. If he decide to join monchi at everton then we are royally f**ck*d.

          1. Ozziegunner says:

            ?Usmanov providing funds to Everton is a real worry; too bad our board won’t cooperate internally.

      3. Break-on-through says:

        With finally having some finishers of class, a big step forward. Creative, check. We’re on the lookout for a keeper and an out and out winger if the rumours hold true, that’ll be massive if we get the right ones. We’re looking at midfield it seems, youth and massive potential with Adli and hopefully our very own Verratti alternative in Lucas Torriera. Defence too is at the forefront, competition for right back, brought or being brought over is one of Barcelona’s brightest academy prospects filling at left back. We’re tending to the areas needed tending, whether we get it all right in one is another matter but it is a hugely positive step. Things seem good and if we keep trying to improve then they should only get better. Looking forward to the new regime.

  2. gotanidea says:

    No, Arsenal could be an EPL champion next season, but only if they sell Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi, Ospina and Koscielny

    In addition to the rumored players, they just need to buy five players: Draxler, Bale, Koulibaly, Ndidi and Seri

    1. ozil the most creative player in the epl ?!!!!!! the player that germany the favourites to win the world cup had build the team around him?!!!!!

      1. gotanidea says:

        Ozil seems to have lost his appetite after he won the World Cup/ La Liga and after he was sold by Real Madrid to Arsenal

        Arsenal better find a hungrier, younger and more skillful playmaker than him

        Or play him as a deeper CM in a 4-3-3 formation and let’s how he performs under Emery’s guidance

        1. ClassyGunner says:

          Tired of your sell Ozil nonsense. Just so you know, no manager in his right frame of mind will want to sell Ozil. Unless of course you are managing RM, Barca or PSG.
          Also, thankfully you have given up your Adma Traore obsession.

          1. Sue says:

            Sell Ozil??? Pfft pfft pfft ??

          2. Abbas says:

            Sell Ozil 100%. He’s weak and moody, harms outweigh the benefits.

          3. Sue says:

            What’s moody got to do with anything?? Each to their own, agree to disagree Abbas ?

          4. Malch95 says:

            Im with @Abbas Ozil lacks cojones! in the 5 years his been with us I can name an overwhelming amount of times where he has gone missing when the club needed him the most. In fact I concur with Emery’s rumoured plan to build the team around Ramsey. When arsenal most need a goal or a moment of quality RAMSEY Ramsey more often than not has produced for us, yes he makes silly errors but he definitely is our unsung hero who works like a donkey for Arsenal and has the quality in critical games to make a difference. Ozil will help U beat Everton 5-1 or Southhampton 6-0 but is nowhere to be seen when U need a goal vs a 10 man Atletico or vs the big boys in the league. He’s contract does not justify his contribution and I for one hope he is sold to a Chinese club and Arsenal invests in someone with more appetite for the game, who’s also able to be effective in more than just the CAM role . Even though he’s a spud, Gareth Bale is acres in front of Ozil in terms of footballing ability and ability to influence big games

          5. Ken1945 says:

            How much do you think the players you mentioned would cost to buy?
            On top of that, we would have to buy them before we sold our players anyway, because we could not reduce our first team squad by the five players you mentioned without being certain we could replace them.
            So, you expect our club to spend approximately£350 million pounds and gamble that we sell those five players (one on a long term injury) you mentioned as being surplus to our requirements?
            If they are as useless as you say, your logic seems incomprehensibly flawed.
            From what you are implying, we’d be lucky to get£200 million!
            We all have our own opinions, but let’s try and be a little more structured in what we feel is feasible and practical.

          6. Ken1945 says:

            Should be to gotanidea

          7. classyGunner says:

            Should be gotnoidea

    2. Mobella says:

      Bring five players in and selling five players, one of them the most creative players in EPL for years, and you think we will suddenly win the league. Sorry to burst bubble. It too man city 4 years to win the league after spending tons of money and Pep two season to do what he did. Sometime i just think you are here to make up number and not contribute logically.

    3. kev says:

      The main problem with the Torreira deals is that Sampodoria want the fee to paid in one instalment (€25m) but we are willing to exceed that and offer €30m and structure the payment over a number of years. However this obstacle is close to being overcome.
      Agent also wants more than €3m.

      1. Phil says:

        Thanks for the update Kev

      2. GoonerP says:

        jeeez you talk so much sh……

        1. Ken1945 says:

          Would normally go along with you, but it does seem to make sense from our point of view, as we never seem to be able to do a simple transfer quickly and efficiently.
          Also, the 3million Kev quotes is 10% of the transfer fee and the media tend to use that as yardstick when discussing agents fees.
          Or, more probably, it’s just wishful thinking on my part!!!

      3. Arsene Wenger. says:

        Arsenal fc is capable of paying the asking price in lamp sum .They need to process the payments ASAP.Man City are looking for such players and if we take ages to act they an snatch him from our noses.

  3. jose when returned to chelsea win the double.
    conte win the epl in his first season
    leister win the epl
    its not impossible to win the epl, it depends on many factors a good kick out to the season and we might do it its hard but not impossible.
    No team has won the league twice in a row in the last 6 years so i expect a new champions

    1. gotanidea says:

      Emery need to surprise his opponents, like what Ranieri and Conte did

  4. drew says:

    They will only dominate for the next 5 years if Pep is there for the next 5 years but he only does 3 year stints at clubs.

    1. stubill says:

      He’s just signed an extension to his contract until June 2021, so I don’t think he’ll be leaving at the end of next season.

    2. Goonerboy says:

      I strongly tip Liverpool to win next season then Arsenal after that, something like:

      Man U

      And it could also be:
      Man U

      Man U

      We can achieve it!

  5. georgie b says:

    Maybe this isn’t so off topic: the thrilling win by Justified for the triple crown. It’s all about A WINNING MENTALITY.

  6. Shortboygooner says:

    I think there is every chance for the top 6 clubs to win the epl. And only utd chelsea and liverpool will win any european football.

    Arsenal have been going through some big changes from behind the scenes to on the pitch. We got rid of the sole controll of brining in player and we got rid of a dated manager. We have brought in 4 top members of back room staff who were proven at their previous clubs. Including our manager and head scout.

    We brought 2 top strikers last season and look as if we are addressing our defence problem. The next 2 seasons will say alot for arsenal.

    The other teams to watch will be utd splashing cash, Liverpool who are spending and have a great manager, tottenham who had a wonderful stint with youth and could challenge with a few extta signings.

    I dont think Chelsea will do great again. From what I have seen.

  7. Jeremy says:

    At this rate of rebuilding, very likely.

    Looks like Arsenal FC just got toyed by the young boy Adli as well.

    Hated this feeling…. it’s almost the same old setting for the past 20 years.

    Fans paid top dollars for tickets and we seem to be struggling to make signings. Something is very wrong.

    1. GB says:

      Toyed? Sorry, serious question, what does that mean? I’m old and only just got ‘my bad’ ?

      1. jon fox says:

        I am older than God and also don’t recognise “toyed”. He has clearly used “to toy” (as to toy with Arsenals affections) as a verb which is why it looks odd in print. It can be properly used as a verb but not in the way he did. “He toyed with Arsenal “would have been correct.

        1. Declan says:

          Ah I see, thanks, my bad……

          1. Declan says:

            Sorry meant to say I wa confused too but now I understand….

    2. Mobella says:

      Have you heard anybody from arsenal telling us we are buying him. All in public domain is from the itk and we fans believed it. So don’t put that on the club or blame the club for it. Ivan said those who know don’t say and those who say don’t know. The only website that knows and will say is the club official site so not until you read anything from there don’t believe anything you read here or you are told by your mate.

  8. The cassette says:

    They could, but than again they might set their eyes on winning the CL and lose focus on the league. But i for one am excited about the new year season assuming we getting Sokratis and especially Torriera, i kinda feel that Wenger didnt quite get the best out of this team, he was more focused on the attacking side of the game that the defense suffered as a result i feel Emery is a bit more balanced especially judging from his tym in spain. Just hope he can bring in that fire that has been lacking for a while now in guys like Ozil..forward and upwards only, clean slate.

    1. GB says:

      Good comment and I like your ‘name’.

    2. jon fox says:

      Classic, even world class understatement you use. “I kinda feel that WENGER ……., HE WAS MORE FOCUSED ON THE ATTACKING SIDE … THAT THE DEFENCE suffered as a result”. If there is a polar opposite to hype, you have showed it. Impressive and hilarious, all at once. I wonder if anyone else ever noticed our defence was less than wonderful, eh? Probably just one or two Gooners! Or millions!

      1. Mobella says:

        Jon, i have always said don’t blame the players, especially our CBs , but the system. How can all our CBs made the same mistake throughout the whole season. With Mustafi most culprit. We conceded a lot of goals that when you are watching the replay Bellerin and Xhaka won’t be in it and if they were they be jogging back after the goal had be conceded. It is the system that was faulty and the system was you know who.

        1. jon fox says:

          A system eh? That rather implies that Wenger had spent hours on the training ground wIth the “defence.” I wonder what they were all doing when there, because they were certainly not learning how to defend from him. THERE IS LITTLE EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE ANY CLAIM OF A “SYSTEM.” Unless the system was stand off their players and do nothing at corner, don’t challenge in the air and don’t tackle unless it is a slide tackle and may give away a penalty. Make sure Bellerin is at least thirty yards from our goal when we are under threat and send both fullbacks up together upfield at all times This manager who loathed the very existence of true defenders and defensive midfielders at Arsenal for so many years was a “thousand per cent” to blame for our defensive woes.

          1. Ken1945 says:

            Jon Fox
            Zzzzzz…… Anything new to say Jon?
            Like your opinion on the subject being discussed?

            I think, while City will be a top club, there is no absolute certainty in football and if we can purchase the players required by our new manager, then why shouldn’t we be challenging them?

          2. Goonerboy says:

            And who cares about Sagna’s opinion, City will NEVER dominate this league, they wont even win it next season not to mention five years..

  9. Lance says:

    No! I don’t think Man City are going to dominate the PL for the next five years. This past season, Liverpool managed to figure them out, beating them three times in four meetings. Man Utd shared the spoils with them. So I think other top teams are going to provide an antidote to them and thus make things difficult for them.

  10. Sean says:

    Pep will win it again just not this year, I believe this year is finally Liverpool’s season to win the big one!

  11. RSH says:

    No, they wont. Things change quickly every year. Everyone thought Pep would win his first season and he didn’t come close. Pep is no SAF, even with a giant checkbook

  12. Arsene Wenger. says:

    I have seen that we’ve been linked to some good players which seems alright but the challenge will be us securing their deals.We need to act the same way Liverpool is doing otherwise we might become an average team.

  13. CannonSpike says:

    Just realised that us fans like the pundits are experts in knowing tomorrow why what we predicted yesterday didn’t happen today.

    Listen no one knows what’s going to happen next season, we can all at best try make educated guesses, but let’s all take each others opinions with a grain of salt and a little respect.

    I mean no one could’ve predicted Leicester winning the EPL for gods sake. Arsenal have just the chance of winning the league as much as they won’t this coming season, can we move on to debating about how we will possibly lineup next season, and what possible formations, tactics and strategies we might deploy.

  14. Mickeytaryan77 says:

    I don’t think city will dominate for that long. The difference between peps spell at bayern and barca to his spell at city, is the competitiveness in the EPL. Clubs in england have way more to spend, meaning they can afford more established players compared to the smaller clubs in germany and spain. Secondly, there are atleast three to four clubs fighting for the pl, unlike the two in germany and spain when pep was coaching. Sure last season city were unchallenged, but this year, teams have a blueprint on how to stop them from games vs liverpool and huddersfield. Sure city have unlimited money, but sooner or later their going to have to abide by the ffp rules, and so far they are only buying, not selling. Although city look scary good, i think the epl is more competitive than la liga and bundesliga, in terms kf anyone can beat anyone. Can city repeat what they did last year, i doubt it, because everything clicked for them in terms of injuries and confidence. Im sure when arsenal went unbeaten people thought they would be unstoppable for the next few years, but football is unexpected and unpredictable, thats why its the beautiful game.

  15. Ozziegunner says:

    CannonSpike, spot on. In sport odds on favorites don’t win all the time. Each club in the EPL is always only a few injuries away from having poor results. Depth of squad is important, but there are issues in introducing new players into a team. Remember there are no easy games any more in the EPL, plus the top teams are also competing in Europe.

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