When some supporters of other clubs call ours entitled, I kind of see it.
When things are going well, a section of our fanbase has a habit of getting carried away and making some arrogant statements.
Equally, when something goes wrong, the reaction can be hysterical. There is rarely any middle ground.
Success Met With Frustration
In midweek, Arsenal reached only their fourth Champions League semi-final in their history.
It is the first time since we were founded that the Gunners have reached the last four of the European Cup or Champions League in consecutive seasons.
Offer that to any fan back in the summer, along with being top of the Premier League in April, and they would have bitten your hand off.
Yet take a look at the faces of a lot of Gooners on Wednesday night, many looked glum. Some even looked angry.
While Mikel Arteta has since been trying to offer perspective, there does seem to be a disconnect between how our manager is feeling compared with those watching.
Perspective and Expectations
Yet, as one of the biggest clubs in the world still to lift UEFA’s premier trophy, and with more than two decades since our last domestic title, why the act of entitlement?
Some have acted as though beating Sporting Lisbon 1-0 on aggregate is beneath us. With a first-leg advantage, the incentive was with the Portuguese champions to chase a goal at the Emirates. When it became clear that the visitors were never going to throw the kitchen sink at us, it would not have made sense for us not to protect what we had simply for the sake of avoiding accusations of being boring.
Yet there seems to be more focus on the Spaniard’s tactics in how he advanced to face Atletico Madrid than the actual fact that he did.
Many of us grew up under Arsène Wenger, wanting to win while playing beautiful football. Not many would say our current style of play is pretty to watch.
Yet if you are in the semi-final of the Champions League and top of the Premier League with six fixtures remaining, and you cannot be happy, you never will be.
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I’ve been supporting Arsenal since the 1971 double year and went through the next few years with near misses and then a period of struggle but we survived Then Terry Neill took over from Bertie Mee and the Cup years 78-80 what followed then under Neill and Howe until 1986 was dire Overpriced overpaid playboy in the team with no direction and purpose George Graham took over in 1986 and success followed not always pretty but effective until George’s departure Rioch brought Bergkamp and Platt but only lasted a year before Arsene Wenger arrived and the team were transformed in the early years with a few shrewd buys backed up by the defence installed by Graham We had seven good years under Wenger but people tend to forget for the next thirteen we were bang average and suffered several heavy defeats in that period Really Wenger should have left at least eight years before he actually did It’s always better to win 1-0 than to lose 3-2 Most fans want to win by any means OK if u win with style great but it’s best that win anyway possible as Arteta is trying to do with the squad at present Let’s win anyway over the remainder of the season and create another piece 💉 f history
Respect for or history with the Club
Much respect!!
If finishing in the top four during Wenger’s mean years while qualifying for the CL in all but two of them and winning three FA cups is bang average, what do you think finishing outside of european competitions for the first time in two decades, finishing in our lowest position in three decades and winning nothing in the last five and a half seasons should be called?
What will you call it if we end up winning nothing this season?
I do not see any difference between us and other teams fans. All have a varied make up of different types of views and opinions. And the way they are presented. Every team has an eclectic view of each others teams.
Certainly, at the Emirates the fact that we’ve held the bridesmaids title so many times now, does cause a hushed atmosphere when momentum shifts a bit in a league game . (It’s almost like putting the hex on the players at this point.) I have watched 2 of the European games, the away crowd keep up an incessant stream of chanting and noise. Against Bayer Leverkusen the only time the racket stopped was when it was clear their team was out
Age comes into it as well. The football landscape and access to the various media platforms also contribute to being able to put your feelings out there instantly. I remember writing on JA that David Luiz should never wear the shirt again after a particularly terrible performance but by the following morning I regretted doing so.
Televising games across the globe didn’t exist when I was younger. You either went along, listened on the radio or watched Grandstand for the teleprinter, picked up the Evening News or The Standard for the classified results or waited for Match of the Day. I wouldn’t have known what anybody thought about Arsenal matters outside of my own family and friends
Excellent points discussed. When quadruple was not achievable mainly due to injuries to key players at a crucial moment of the season, even winning a trophy or being too close to that should be appreciated. That is perspective!
@Ambachew
Exactly…👍🏾
The writer needs commendation for his insight. He has raised very pertinent issues which many of our fans tend to overlook in the heat of the moment. I watched the Liverpool game against PSG and I must admit that I admired Liverpool fans! Despite the poor show by their team most of the fans stayed put up to the final whistle. This was a great sign of maturity. Perhaps the location of their team in a tranquil city also adds to their composure.
I reflected on a few issues and I couldn’t agree more with Dan. What gives us a sense of entitlement when we haven’t been world beaters? What will teams like Man city which have dominated English football for more than a decade do? No wonder some people have coined the term plastic fans because plastic is an artificial substance! Why should some of us pretend about the greatness of our team? Instead of accepting that we are in a rebuilding process, some people behave artificially! Who are we trying to impress? Many of us might remember a few seasons back when Spurs finished above us for a few seasons in a row and how they behaved! One would have been forgiven to think they had won a quadruple! Instead of pursuing trophies, they were contented to finish on top of Arsenal! No wonder now they are staring relegation in the face! Let me bring a somewhat similar scenario about the conduct of some of our fans. Instead of appreciating the strides our team has made, they are busy calling for the sacking of the manager who has brought us this far and the dismissal of some players! Those calling for the sacking of the manager have not cared to assess how teams which have frequently changed managers have fared. Isn’t this being unrealistic? What guarantee do we have that a new manager will achieve instant success?
May be Dan has a point though there’s got to be a limit especially if we keep referring to or club as some kid of European giant.
Are some causes of the “loss of perspectives” completely unavoidable?
such as….
If finishing in the top four during Wenger’s mean years while qualifying for the CL in all but two of them and winning three FA cups is bang average, what do you think finishing outside of european competitions for the first time in two decades, finishing in our lowest position in three decades and winning nothing in the last five and a half seasons should be called?
What will you call it if we end up winning nothing this season?
My Ken my response today and tomorrow are different like hell and heaven. if we we get something tomorrow arteta and this Arsenal are tremendous. wait pls wait ken
I’m talking about the here and now Ambachew and in response to the negativity regarding Arsene Wenger.
I’m supporting Mikel Arteta to the hilt, but fans should not be making excuses for him, by trashing our most successful manager ever.
I respect that Ken and I’m with you
it doesn’t have to be one or the other
I’m not one of these who needs Arteta to leave but we dont need to downplay what Mr Wenger did to compensate what Arteta isn’t doing might not do
A failure. Plain and simple
Is it maturity or the opposite?
I believe a section of our fans might have had enough of being castigated by opponent fanbase occassioned by the team ‘bottling’ the leaugue and never showing the bull dog determination in the latent stages of the league.
That syndrome may irk some fans not to be positive about the team.
Therefore, this is the time for our players to stand-up and show the mettle in them, put in a spirited fight and deliver the trophies at the Emirates.
Majority of us fans are happy with the exact stage we are at now.
Although we would have been in a better position in the EPL if we had not drawn to the likes of Sunderland, Forest, Brentford and Wolves. That was 8 points dropped.
So we would have been 11 points ahead by now with 6 games left, if we had not drawn those 4 matches.
But that’s the toughness and beauty of football because no game is easy.
Some of us are just scared that it might be another season without a trophy and that’s the reason for the reactions from fans to the loss against Bournemouth 😡😔 and to the tense and nail biting 0 – 0 draw against Sporting at home 😬
A draw against Sporting at our home was the least we needed to progress to the next round so I’m happy the lads could get that draw.
I will not be sad either if we can get the same 0 – 0 draw at the Etihad tomorrow because that will keep our EPL hopes alive, especially if we follow it up with a win against Newcastle, a team who seems to be another bogey team to us in the past 4 seasons, but it seems Newcastle are not in good form this season so we should try and get at least a crucial point against City and follow it up with a win against a current weak Newcastle side.
I am very happy for where we are now. A semifinal spot in the UCL against Atletico who on a good day we can beat and progress to the final.
And 1st in the EPL with 3 points clear from City in 2nd, with 6 games to against teams that we are capable of beating on a very good day.
Let’s watch and see how the season plays out from tomorrow.
I still have a little believe that we will win a trophy this season.
I hope and pray it happens.
You make some good points SJ. imo, at this stage of the season, it’s all about managing the emotions and dealing with what’s left in the tank and how it can best be used. I believe the pressure to win a trophy of some type resulted in putting too much into the league and FA cup competitions and the effects are now being felt. I would say the same with the UCL as well but the financial (and future) rewards of not going as far as possible are simply too big to ignore. Hoping for the best as always. 🤞
Yes, BB. I agree. Arteta and the lads really need to learn how to manage their emotions and freestyle and feel free to do their thing on the pitch.
Big difference between the two managers is that one achieved a lot over a shorter period of time while the other is simply buying time. Wegner could identify and spot talent while Arteta seems to have little sense. The praise that Wegner could make ordinary players good and good players great certainly does not apply to Arteta. Name one player who Arteta has discovered, nurtured and then sent out into the footballing world better developed under his tutelage.. Take Sanchez for example if not Henry, Anelka, Viera, Cole, Clichy and beyond The two managers are Chalk and cheese.Dont even dare compare.
👍bang on Joe 👍
Also under Wenger: Pennant, Jeffers, Denilson, Park, Inamoto and others.
That’s not what he’s talking about ,he talking about how Wenger signed unheard of players and turned them into superstars ,how many as Arteta got on his CV
Other than Jeffers they were pretty much unheard of. My poorly made point being that Wenger mostly bought in his players (with not all being so wonderful) until the academy was overhauled by Jonkers in 2014/15, since when that’s been their job (to produce the future stars).
I don’t get the argument regarding the pros and cons of both managers Jax.
Different eras, different levels of experience and talent in all probability (although that can’t be certain until Arteta retires from management). Of course there were misses by Wenger but it’s not ok to say so as it doesn’t fit with other opinions. I recognise and applaud his enormous contribution to our club and the success achieved at Arsenal in his heyday and during the building of the Emirates which has allowed the club to truly compete
Sue, I don’t know why some just can’t resist bringing up the Wenger v Arteta BS time and again.
We have obvious young talent in our squad who may or may not go on to become stars, but some of the (other) oldies on here just will not give up.
Sorry, SueP, now the other Sue is back.
You know how old I am now ?😂
And the only time fans don’t want to bring up the Wenger ,Arteta comparisons is when it doesn’t suit their weird agendas.
And I didn’t bring up the managers anyway if that’s what you was getting at
Errr, did I make any references to or about you suggesting that you had manager or age-related issues?
You were nudging that way yes
Of course I was🤣. I’m a world-class nudger.
Nothing to be proud of bud .
Dan Kit, you clown. You really do believe it don’t you? That I was referring to you as the oldie. Get some help pal, you need it.
And you can’t even see when you’re getting the piss taken.
Clown good one buddy
At least you had the balls to stay on here this time and respond ,went missing for a few months last time when you got made a fool of ,and your not that witty .
Stick to buttering up The old women lad ,that’s all your good for
I can answer …..
They don’t like Arteta is failing so how do you deflect ….you down play what Wenger did ….
hence the well it was easier for Wenger
in reality Wenger inherited a mess
Big difference is one manager inherited the best defence this club has ever had while the other manager inherited a mess.
The best defence we ever had had none of the players Wenger inherited
Keown, Cole…
😂
What’s so funny ?
You changing the goalposts every comment ,that’s what’s funny lad .
So Keown and Cole weren’t at the club when Wenger arrived and weren’t in the Invincible squad then ?
was Tony Adams at the club when George Graham arrived ?
lol your shocking at this
Yes he was. I was there when he made his debut at home to Sunderland, which we lost.
Next.
no mate you miss the point
your arguing Wenger inherited Cole because When Wenger arrived Cole had been there for a like let’s say a year
so by your own logic ……..GG can’t be credited for Tony Adam because he was already part of the youth set up when GG became manager
so I’m simply doing off your stance
if your saying Wenger didn’t develop Cole then you can’t say GG developed anyone he inherited either
Still, of course GG developed TA. Don’t you know how he organised that back 4 of Dixon, Bould, Adams and Winterburn ?
What position did Cole play when he joined the club as a kid ?
exactly! lol
so Wenger developed Cole then ? lol
No answer about what position Cole played when he arrived as a kid ?
If you don’t know, just say so.
a striker but I thought your point was you don’t give Wenger credit for the defence because he inherited Cole
Now your admitting ( by accident ) that Mr Wenger in fact developed him into a left back lol
He was a Left Winger when he joined but the youth coaches changed him to the LB position, like they did with Kieran Gibbs when he joined us after Wimbledon folded.
Keown wasn’t part of our best defence which is what you was referring to or trying to .and Cole was 15 or 16 😂
Your original post was “Wenger inherited our best defence this club as ever seen “
By that you mean
Adams
Keown
Winterburn
Dixon
Bould
Seaman
But the best defence we have seen is
Campbell
Toure
Cole
Lauren
Lehmann
So if you want to split hairs you could say Wenger inherited our best LB a 15 year old that had never seen first team football and was still at school .
Like I you said move the goalposts ,you know you can admit when your wrong now and again
And before you try and pick up about Keown he wasn’t in our first choice best defence as he was 36 years old
but then he doesn’t want to give credit for Wenger developing Cole he can’t give credit to GG for developing Tony Adams
he literally doesn’t know and is just after attention
think of it like this ….how many Gooners have you met who have ever tried to discredit what Wenger did in his first say 7 years
DK when it comes to Wenger that guy is a lost cause. He literally lies through his teeth plainly and shamelessly when it comes to Wenger. When you try to argue with him he is very good at dragging the topic while keeping changing the subject until you give up out of frustration.
His debate tactic is literally to bore or frustrate the other party with plain lies and double standards.
This is a guy who refuse to give Wenger credit for Wilshere because we signed him as 4 years old!!!!!!!! The only way he can give credit to Wenger is for Wenger to have fathered all Arsenal greats under him.
HH, no lies from me fella.
Wilshire was 6, not 4 when we bought him from Luton. Please get your facts right in future.
I don’t he lies
I think he doesn’t know so says something, gets caught out and then tries to deflect
so far we have Wenger was lucky to inherit a defence , even though that defence were not getting close to winning titles . According to him that was the remit lol
then he discredits the Invincibles because Wenger inherited Keown and Cole was already in our youth team , even though neither had won a title yet
then when you point out the players GG inherited in the youth team he says ….oh.but GG developed them….yet doesn’t understand Wenger developed Cole lol
He lies. You yourself has shown his dishonesty in Adams and Cole development. Like I said lies and double standards. He does not even try to hide it.
You really shouldn’t make things up Pinocchio.
So not only was Wenger coaching the 1st team, he was also coaching the youth team when Cole was there according to you 😂😂
Yep
Unfortunately some
Fans will do anything to undermine what Wenger did ,me personally wanted him gone years before he did but I’m not an idiot that tries to put his achievements in the bin ,very odd but we all
Know the Arteta 5-6 club will do anything to do it ,very very strange to say the least
but Keown never won a league title before and Cole hadn’t played a game for us lol
you can’t seriously be crediting the previous regime for them winning titles
by that logic Arteta inherited Saka lol
He didn’t, but he still learnt under the master, George Graham, and he passed on when coaching our defence.
As for Cole, he was at the club during Riochs one season. If it wasn’t for the dodgy passport of our Brazilian LB, Cole would’ve been sold to Crystal Palace, as a transfer for £1.5m had been agreed.
Yes Mikel did indeed inherit Saka, but like Wenger did with some players, he moved him to a different position to make a better player.
yeah I know but it was Wenger who gave him that opportunity
but the likes of Adams and Keown literally say Wenger made us better lol
How many trophies did they win ?
Cannot remember off hand ,but probably more than Arteta as won with his squad 😂
I mean why are we even comparing these 2 managers ,one revolutionised English football ,the other tried to revolutionise cashmere jumpers ,but it had already been done .
They won 2 League Titles both domestic Cups and something has never won in his managerial career, a European trophy.
so to clarify …..
Keown won more league titles under Mr Wenger then he did George Graham ?
Ashley Cole who Wenger promoted won 2 league titles
and the likes of Adams and Dixon won the same number of league titles under Wenger then they did George Graham?
and Mr Wenger won more League titles and more FA Cups and couldn’t win the Cup Winners Cup
Arsene Wenger is factually the most successful manager in our history
again , crazy you don’t know that
and he inherited a drinking culture
nearly all of those players had credited Mr Wenger for rescuing their careers
and look at the league positions before Wenger arrived .
Not like he walked into a team who were challenging for the Prem
A drinking culture that had won 2 League titles, both domestic Cups and a European trophy for only the second time in our history.
Finishing in the top 4 want a thing then.
Would you say that Arsene Wenger moved into a club with lots of internal problems HD and would you also agree that he was revolutionary manager who changed English football forever?
Ken, yes there was a few problems and they were sorted out.
As for changing the football here, most definitely. As I’ve said before, the football we played then was the best I’ve ever seen The Arsenal play.
*wasn’t
so why had they lost their way and not challenged for years ?
go listen to the players themselves who will explain where they were and how Wenger helped
so don’t listen to me , listen to them
this is what I mean by your knowledge
there are fans who don’t support Arsenal who understand where Arsenal were when he joined and how he turned it around
your literally the only Gooner ( you claim ) who needs it constantly explained the job Mr Wenger did
As I’ve told you before, the managers before Wenger had a different remit, they had to win trophies. Six years without a trophy and it was bye bye to the manager.
Everybody knows what Wenger did to help to extend the players careers, they’ve written about it and spoke about it.
More of a Gooner than you’ll ever be 595.
so you want us to believe they were told not to challenge for the title lol
this is hilarious
Well that was the remit in those days. Seeing as you weren’t there let me explain it to you. Lack of cash due to low attendances and being virtually the last big club to sign a shirt sponsorship meant we couldn’t spend the money the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool etc were spending. The only time we spent big was December ’71 when we signed Alan Ball for a British record fee of two hundred and twenty thousand pounds. His wages, £200 per week, ended up causing trouble in the squad as he was on double to what anyone else was, including our captain Frank McClintock.
so you believe after GG won the title he was told ….we can’t now compete , just go after the cups
which begs the question then when Wenger arrives …..why did that remit change if like you said yourself he inherited the same defence
why were that defence years before Wenger unable to win title but he rocks up and suddenly they were ….could it have something to do with …..Arsene Wenger lol.
more of a Goober who needs other readers to explain to him about how the most successful period in our history happened ?
do you not think that’s odd ?
Goober ?
I would say that there’s not a person on here that was alive in our most successful period, the 1930’s 😁
well not really …..in the 30’s we won 7 trophies
from 1996- 2004 Mr Wenger won 7 trophies
so you telling Me that 7 full seasons Mr Wenger won the same as what we did in a decade isn’t helping your argument lol
but hey it’s opinion , I don’t think I’m going to change your mind but honestly read up on it …..Mr Wenger is the most successful manager in Arsenal history
In the 30’s we won 5 League Titles, Wenger won 3.
Pretty sure 5 is a bigger number than 3…
didn’t say other wise
I said they both won 7 trophies lol
this is your issue, your lacking so much knowledge your contradicting yourself
so if you now saying you want to put worth on which trophies were won your argument with GG falls down even more
But according to you League Titles are more important.
You really ain’t got a Scooby…
I’ll leave it like this because your not going to change your mind
I’ll find you an interview with GM David Dein and sent you the link .
He essentially says what Mr Wenger inherited .
I know what he inherited 🙄.
Do you know which player was selling dodgy goods to his teammates during Wengers time ?
Spot on .GG won 2 league titles 2 league cups 1 FA Cup and 1 European Cup winners Cup in just 7 years.A unbelievable achievement. Arteta 7 years 1 FA Cup.Enough said.Perhaps they should bring back the drinking culture
Priceless
a drinking culture that saw them no longer compete for the league
this idea that the next managers walked in and suddenly someone went to the same players , the remit has changed ….you may now win the title again lol.
no GG had left the club in a mess and Wenger turned it around
go look up what players said about that period
So we’ve moved on from Arteta and Wenger to George Graham and Wenger now.
He was hardly a failure which is what is so disappointing about the points scoring that goes on. His trophy haul was impressive as well although it’s undeniable that the end and the scandal blotted Graham’s copy book. Whilst different, would you say that losing out on CL football was desirable? No need to answer that because I’m only trying to play devils advocate. Both managers brought glory to the club and both should be revered for doing so
yeah Sue but Wenger didn’t achieve things simply because he inherited a good defence
he inherited a defensive who on and off the pitch were no longer able to compete for titles
Why the arguing over the George Graham and Arsene Wenger era’s. They both produced trophy winning sides.
Something the current manager hasn’t managed to do. It’s him we need to be looking at.
Because if you downplay what Wenger did it absolves Arteta .
So you make out that Arteta inherited a mess unlike Mr Wenger where it was easier .
I simply correct that
Dan,
There’s really no need to correct anything that Wenger did. Yes he had his flaws just like Graham did, and Arteta has.
But the difference regards Graham and Wenger, they produced trophy winning teams.
Something we’re still waiting for from Arteta. and until he does produce these trophy winning teams if he ever does, then and only then can he be in the same conversation as the likes of Graham and Wenger.
No need for corrections Dan, Graham’s and Wenger’s records speak for themselves.
mate I’m not discrediting anything GG did .
I just disagree that GG should get any credit for what Mr Wenger did .
Look at where Arsenal were when the Frenchman arrived
I always say, don’t listen to me , go and listen to the likes of David Dein
But Arteta did inherit a mess Dan – a mess of Unai Emery ‘s making.
The dressing room was lost, Mr Kronkie didn’t know what to do next and the fan base was hostile.
The fact that Mikel made it worse to start with (matter of opinion if he did it the right way of course) had nothing to do with Arsene.
Le Prof achieved things because he was a genuine genius.
sorry mate
to clarify , I’m not saying Arteta didn’t .
I’m saying so did Wenger .
I think making out that Wenger didn’t is an attempt to justify why Arteta has failed to do what Mr Wenger did
Enough of this nonsense. Football is the a game of winning trophies. It’s the whole point of the game. Excuses can be made to the likes of Crystal Palace and Swindon but not to the club of Arsenal’s wealth and resources and more than 20 years of patience to boot.
The normalization of excuses to fit one’s agendas is why we still have millions excusing and voting for confirmed pedos and warmongers leaders.
yeah excuses at this point are cringe but I’m happy to see more and more Gooners see through it
There will always be fans who will just blame injuries or officials but at this point it’s just disingenuous
Cause we are living in an age where anything no matter how plain or direct can be argued to push out an agenda. People have managed to argue about genders what chance does a mere trophy have?
Give a chance to someone with an agenda and they will argue Arsenal home color is not actually red and white. They will give you these gray area and nuance nonsense.
👆David , Freddy 😂
yeah it’s called being intellectually dishonest
that would like Arteta winning the Prem and me saying …..but he’s never done it with his own attack based on he inherited Saka lol
Dan, has there been any fan who’s just blamed injuries and officials alone for any defeats?
Both of the above obviously play big parts in defeats and we know Arsene certainly blamed both situations as part of the reason for a defeat.
I disagree mate
injuries and poor decisions are part of football .
Injuries and poor officiating isn’t why we lost the Carabo Cup Final or to Bournemouth or yesterday .
it’s because we are mentally weak and need that one result to change that
but yes if we fail some will find excuses and then say in the summer 2nd is okay .
Then at Xmas some will be arrogant , I’ll say be humble , others will say how do you know …..then we will get to the run in and they will make excuses again.
A constant loop lol
I didn’t mention any specific game Dan, but I will now.
One of the main reasons we drew with city home and away was due to Mr Oliver making the wrong refereeing decisions by not going by the laws of the game.
We also lost the PL due to a horrific injury list, when Saliba was one of many who failed to stay fit during the run in, where city115 pipped us by two points and we had his replacement sent off (quite correctly) against the spuds.
If you say we are mentally weak, what business have we actually losing only three matches in all competitions up to the cup final?
If one is mentally weak, one will be in the situation the spuds find themselves in at the moment.
We are not mentally weak, we’re just not playing to our full potential, along with injuries to Saka, Timber, Merino and, until very recently, Odegaard and Hincapie.
You bring up “arrogance” again, I’ll just say it’s hope and expectation.
Who and how many have said 2nd is OK?
Ken I’m not going to keep doing this whole hoe many people thing, fans on here and on other platforms have said it .
If you don’t believe me that’s okay lol
If you look at Arteta’s reign when we get to the business end we let games pass us by
hence suddenly it’s one win 6 . I correctly predicted that Man City not just can handle pressure but do so with a smile on their face . Our players are not quite ready to do that
You could also say Gabriel should have got sent off yesterday and would now serve a three game ban . Having him available still could be huge . So that’s another decision that has gone our way .
Do you want to know how many penalties we have conceded this season …..0
A section of our fanbase is entitled and wildly reactionary. They will be elated and praised the player/manager as the best thing ever after the win and the same people will criticize the team/manager as the worse after a defeat. There is also the advert of social media and people being chronically online and being gaslighted by rival fans and pundits who only spew garbage for views and attention.
Can’t believe there are even talks of only winning the league title not being enough from some fans. Arrogant and delusional fans. We have won the double 3 times in our entire history. Liverpool, manu and city have 4-5, that’s how rare it is.
Back in the day, Spurs won the double and at the time it was considered impossible to replicate, let alone better. Happily, Arsenal dispelled that notion 1971
Oops by winning both, but later the treble by Utd has set the benchmark (unless my memory fails me)
SueP,
Didn’t City do a treble as well?.
They did Derek, but I mentioned Utd because they were the first. I should have clarified that
Yes i included the treble for both in the total. Trebles are in another stratosphere all together since they are only 2.
For me, every club has fans that overreact both for and against their team, that is human nature. Earlier in the season I even saw City fans starting to berate Guardiola, and with his record you wouldn’t think he would get to much stick, but he did.
That is now dying down, as the City fans are seeing City’s usual late surge for the League starting to take shape.
Football is an emotional sport. Just think about it, when you’re watching a game how many different emotions do you go through.
There’s anger at a bad miss, frustration at a loose pass, then you have to sometimes deal with the inept ref’s and VAR thrown into the equation. You’re team throwing away late points along the way, all bringing to the fore emotions.
And then fans after game thoughts are irrational at times, and I don’t excuse myself from this either. But all that said, it’s good to get frustrations off you’re chest when needed. Even if it seems not logical all of the time.
Cracking up at y’all.. this article is why Arsenal can’t win anything.. already accomodating defeat 😭
I’d say it has more to do what takes place on the field, rather than what’s written on web-sites.