Are Trophies Overrated? by Ben Dungate
Despite what Americans will claim, Football, or to be more specific, Association Football (soccer) is the world’s most watched sport. It sparks passion amongst players and fans alike, divides cities, divides friends groups, families. It is partisan and incredible and those involved in the game face intense scrutiny. Sometimes too much, leading to heinous and ridiculous acts such as the assassination of Andreas Escobar, the Colombian defender, whose crime was scoring an own goal at the 1994 World Cup.
With this in mind, should us fans and supporters take a step back and assess what we want from our team. What we demand from our players and manager and whether those expectations are actually realistic.
Arsenal find themselves currently in third place in the Premier League at Christmas, with a handful of us, perhaps understandably, a little bit disappointed, given the horrendous run of form Man City are going through. However, should we not in fact actually be pleased that the management team as a whole has led the side to a period where the fans can actually have positive expectations, without placing all the emphasis on delivering trophies?
Arteta ‘s recent interview in which he petulantly reminded the interviewer that he has won 2 Community Shields during his tenure, perfectly demonstrates the ridiculous nature of the expectation placed upon people in his position. Should we not in fact see the team’s consistency in the league as a success in itself, and arguably just as difficult to achieve in the most competitive domestic football league in the world as winning a domestic cup?
Let us remember that Erik ten Hag won an FA Cup, a League Cup, and reached another FA Cup final in during his 3 years in charge at Man Utd but also delivered their lowest league finish in decades. Would we really swap our consistent league challenge for the odd trophy here and there?
Now, before you bite my head off, I absolutely believe there is no reason why we can’t and shouldn’t be competitive in the league AND win trophies, this article is more to make us reflect upon our expectations and to realise that no team has a divine right to win anything and simply having a good team does not give any guarantees.
So, maybe we should actually just be happy and proud that this group of players and the manager are able to provide the fans with hope of success on a season by season basis and not actually expect anything!
It’s Christmas, so let’s not waste these years demanding more, more, more, but instead be grateful that we are Gooners and support the greatest team in the land. The only side never to have been relegated from the top division (technically) and the only team to have ever gone an entire league season undefeated.
We get to go into each season with hope of victory and success, watch fantastic games, and see homegrown talent pull on the famous red jersey and represent the team as those that have gone before them have and try to deliver the fans the success we crave so much. Let us simply be grateful for what we have and know that when success is delivered, and it will be, it won’t be tainted by improper financial activity or under a cloud of dismal league performances.
Remember, we could be Tottenham fans!
Best regards
BEN
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Nice read. Even though I think trophies are not overrated, I just believe we should go about achieving it the right and realistic way, so as to avoid future repercussions such as other clubs who go from being the one of the best to a “shadow of themselves” which fans will find surprising but it isn’t. Sustainability should be prioritized before you can talk about competing for honours, which is another issue on its own. Last season I know was disappointing, given our inability to win the league in particular but that’s behind us now, so I look forward to better seasons ahead, can’t speak for those who think otherwise as far as Mikel and current members of the board backing him are still in charge though.
I rate EPL and UCL trophies higher than the others, because of they are way more difficult to win and reward higher prizes
You’ve lost yr mind and kind of what’s wrong with today’s ‘Arsenal’ fan.
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Only an Arsenal fan would say, trophies don’t matter. I am speechless.
Did I say they don’t matter? I merely stated that no team has a divine right to win and actually being in the discussion at the start of the season is a privilege that shouldn’t be overlooked. It certainly shouldn’t be something the manager gets sacked for!
It has nothing at all about devine right but lack of ability to actually achieve what we should have given all the circumstances. We can not have any excuses.
I will be honest, the article is an excuse and we don’t need them. Just accountability for failure to win one.
I bet you called for Wenger’s head despite his years of service and what he did for the club.
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More like something a blind darts player would say.
Not Arsenal fans. Arteta fans or apologists. Maybe the club should make his silver bust for some to celebrate every season because Arteta is all they need.
We are just saying that because we don’t win anything .
It’s sad that the Koronke Family now have some accepting not winning trophies
Arteta not the Krankies
This is just pathetic. It’s just to cover up for the inevitable that will happen come May. This season reminds me of 15/16. By the time we would’ve done the needful which is obvious many big trophies would passed us by and then the cycle repeats itself. Our club is so nice but not ruthless enough.
As an Arsenal fan, it’s now becoming the norm to
1. Accept any finish, next year will be better
2. No expectations of the big jugs
3. Smaller jugs are not worth it even if you cannot win the big ones
4. Pay the highest tickets and accept mediocrity performances, term them as off days. Imagine a captain with 1000s of passengers on board calls it an off day, even though he draws a 10th of the wages
5. Spend millions on cast offs and injury ridden players when the moneys could have been utilized for better recruitment
6. Enjoy the little tots are some places below us as if they are the benchmark of modern day football.
7. Arsene won 3 titles in 22 years and that is termed as success, Mikel 1 FA in 5 years and we are told to trust the process.
8. Mikel takes pride in the 2 shields, what’s next, Emirates Cup? Why no passion to win the League Cup?
Well Ben is entitled to his opinions, I to mine. We need accountability. 20 yrs with no title and 1 UCL final appearance does not make us a big club.
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The article successfully describes mediocrity. “TROPHIES ARE OVERRATED”
I think the point I’m trying to make is being lost. But the fact you don’t see Wenger’s reign as being successful is frankly ridiculous and perfectly demonstrates the stupid expectations Arsenal fans have, at least on this forum.
I do not agree with many of the actions and decisions Arteta has made but we have finished 2nd for consecutive seasons and failed to win because the team bottled it. But to think some of you would risk this level of consistency for a sniff of a one-off totally is incredible and utterly misguided.
Well, unequal officiating lost it for us.
Not the teams fault; not the coaches fault; not the owners fault; not the fans fault.
And just by the way, Ben, you have not written what they love to see.
You’ve made a beautiful write but not one to caress the delusions of many.
Write on how trash Arteta is and his insistence on playing Havertz . . .
And how nothing works when Ødegaard is not on the turf . . .
And how we can’t win without corner kicks . . .
And how . . .
Then you see them jumping for joy.
Regardless of what we fans think and hope for, the players don’t want to be remembered for playing for a great club and in a great team that almost won a lot but won nothing. They want big trophy wins on their CV‘s. So the big risk for clubs like Arsenal is not winning trophies and losing their best players as they move on in search of trophies. Ask Harry Kane.
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Yes, BM received a huge Harry Kane/Tottenham trophyless discount when they acquired his services.
edward joseph small:
Irrespective of what you think:
Some just want to play for their childhood club, only.
Ask Totti
Ask Garry Neville
Ask Tony Adams
Ask Maldini
Some just want to play – wherever
Ask Emiliano Martinez
Ask the players who go on loan.
Some players see those trophies as nothing more than a container that can be used for garbage collection or any other desired stuff to do with.
Some see footballing as an occupation.
And so it is about money money money for them – whatever else happens is irrelevant. Whoever offers the biggest money is who they sign for.
Ask Song!
Ask Oscar!
Ask me. I’m an Arsenal fan but if Arsenal offers me £70k/week and some other club offers £1.2m/week…
Well, money made the decision.
I might from a position of convenience under such circumstances offer to donate £200k/week to Arsenal out of my love for them 😁
Benevolent Thrill.
I’m off with my camel.
Won’t complain about the weather.
The deserts sun is refreshingly balmy with money.
edward joseph small:
Irrespective of what some might think or expect:
Some just want to play for their childhood club, only.
Ask Totti
Ask Garry Neville
Ask Tony Adams
Ask Maldini
Ask others . . .
Some just want to play – wherever
Ask Emiliano Martinez
Ask many players who go on loan . . .
Some players see those trophies as nothing more than a container that can be used for garbage collection or any other desired stuff to do with.
Some see footballing as an occupation – nothing else, basically.
And so it is about money money money for them – whatever else happens is irrelevant. Whoever offers the biggest money is who they sign for.
Ask Song!
Ask Oscar!
Ask me. I’m an Arsenal fan but if Arsenal offers me £70k/week and some other club offers £1.2m/week…
I might from a position of convenience under such circumstances offer to donate £200k/week to Arsenal out of my love for them 😁
Benevolent Thrill.
Well, money made the decision.
I’m off to take a leisurely ride with my camel.
Won’t complain about the weather.
The deserts sun is refreshingly balmy with money in the vault.
It is not my fault.
And just by the way
Harry Kane was earning a reported £200k/week at the lane.
Moved over to Germany with a reported £200k/week increment.
Making it £400k/week.
Talk doubling machine.
Tottenham made some money, too.
How Bayern make theirs is up to them.
I think money is the chief decider here.
Tottenham for all the love in the world and trophy expectation wouldn’t have given Harry Kane £400000 per week. They could have in their dreams . . .
Not in reality at that time.
No money.
No deal.
Had he gone to Bayern for £19k/week . . .
We could agree it was all for the trophy!
Good article, Ben. TBH, if I were still a paying customer, I’d be more vocal about my expectations, but now that I just watch free from afar, I’m not so fussed when we don’t achieve. and am satisfied that we are among England’s top sides.
I do wonder who some of these demanding JA commenters are and what sort of sorry lives they must lead.
Demanding ?
It’s been 21 years
We are the most patient of fans
Spot on Dan. It is a sad state of affairs if the “fourth spot is an achievement” mentality has rubbed off on fans. We have a rich history and proud traditions but we should never settle for mediocrity. The club’s legacy is built on success and silverware. Anything less than striving to win trophies undermines the expectations of loyal fans and the ethos of a club that has been a benchmark of excellence. Aiming for top-four finishes or “progress” alone is not enough. We must prioritise assembling a squad, strategy, and mindset capable of challenging for major honours consistently. Trophies must be the only true measure of success. This will bring results, trophies and increase our fan base worldwide.
“Remember, we could be Tottenham fans!”
I used to go there to watch my ex-teacher play for them and thought nothing of it. Always a Gooner!
The irony is you sound like a Spurs fan
Of course Dan, of course🙄.
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‘ not fussed what we achieve ‘
How is that not sounding like a Spurs fan
Of course it does; couldn’t be anything else😂
…and by the way, you’ve very carefully re-phrased what I wrote. Dear, dear Dan…you are a one😂.
Literally a quote
I wrote: “I’m not so fussed when we don’t achieve”
You wrote, as a quote: “not fussed what we achieve”
Hardly literal, and completely changed the context.
Not your day is it Dan!!!
Yes, trophies are overrated except when it comes to a Spuds fan, lol. btw, what do Americans claim?
The writer is right and credit must be given for putting things nicely into perspective.
But to be kind to the Writer, will easier said than done, as do doubt fans will be showing their horns, for the barren trophy years and near misses.
Yet this year could be our best year yet, with the champions thinking they had won all there is to.
There is a lot to be said for Ben’s article.
I went to my first Arsenal game with my parents in the late 60’s and have seen the highs (being at Wembley in 1971 with my Dad and the lows in the mid 70’s when hooliganism was rife and the results were bang average, or worse compared to what we have experienced since Wenger (and that includes Arteta’s two 8th places)
I consider myself to be very fortunate to come from an Arsenal supporting family from the 1930s and I’m proud to support them. I don’t expect or demand trophies year in and year out. I would like it of course but what I have learned over the years is that football is cyclical and our turn will come again. For anybody who thinks Arsenal is not a big club, they should think again. 13 league titles and 14 FA cup wins and 2 European titles. There are always ups and downs but our record is better than most. Instead of looking for the negatives, why not take the view that the owners are doing all they can to have a successful and competitive team again? I don’t think they are aiming for mediocrity and neither do I think I accept it either, but I am realistic about the last 20 odd years.
Great post SueP. To your fine credit, you never learned to attach finishing first to your ego or general arrogance (as some on here calling the kettle black are quite familiar with).
Thanks, Sue. You get it. Success can never be guaranteed and simply to be in with a chance if a luxury most fans of other clubs never get close to but Arsenal fans seem to think going 21 years without winning the league is a travesty and someone should hang for it. Being old enough to remember the not so great times has its uses.
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Unless they mean always coming first in the laegue is the only success.
Then failure is almost always guaranteed.
Guaranteed for the other 19 teams and the many other lower league participants.
Then every team would have its fair share of failures consistently
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Success for me is seeing teams suffer for playing against arsenal.
That’s one part of it.
There are many parts to success – trophies included. But shiny tablewares that can be bought under the influence of officials is not too massively important to me, personally.
I can put my money on this Arsenal, and go to sleep, irrespective of who they play. And that is success to me.
At least, part of the success I experience.
Well said SueP, I suspect that if a lot of the recent Arsenal supporters had been around in the late 60’s early 70’s watching some of the dire football we had to put up with they would have scuttled off and supported someone else. If you are a true Arsenal supporter you will as Sue says know that success comes in cycles. Yes you can have your moans and opinions about managers players etc but some of the comments about todays team have been frankly ridiculous. Just enjoy the ups and put up with the downs and let’s continue to be Arseal supporters.
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Like you, I can accept the moans and groans. Its part of football, and we all do it, but the rubbish about people being Arteta apologists is quite frankly absurd and has no basis in reality. Your last sentence sums up my sentiments too.
So 750 million spent to get back to top 4, and some would say celebrate the accomplishment?
We have been here under Wenger and many said top 4 was not enough. Now with Arteta are some saying top 4 is enough? Don’t be overly focused on trophies?
Have expectations changed that much in 5 years?
Has anyone told the players not to focus too much on trophies?
I don’t think its a cause for celebration, beyond the fact that anything worse than 4th doesn’t bring the UCL or the money that competing in it brings.
Its ludicrous for anybody to suggest that a trophy is irrelevant, unless of course it’s the Carabao Cup that some JA posters deride. I am all for winning it and even the season opener – The Community Shield
Arteta’s proud of his Community Shield wins Sue.
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And he has a right to be. Jax and SueP, I for one and as Gooners I think you agree that any win for the Arsenal is appreciated and celebrated as such. I believe the term “win” does not have to only mean winning the league. If that were the case, there wouldn’t be much purpose to JA and we’d all just look at the table results at the end of the season. The journey is important regardless of the finish.
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Absolutely Bruised Banana.
I could name what the Koronkes can do ?
Arsenal is a massive club Sue that’s the point
Dont let these owners manipulate you
Genius business model though
Release more merch before Xmas get customers to believe winning trophies isn’t everything
Fancy KSE flogging extra merch at Christmas to pull the wool over my eyes. Their business model is obviously very different from the Glazers at ManU thank goodness. Sustainable is good.
Not winning trophies is not good
so the Carabao cup will do for you?
Where is Ten Hag now? Do Man utd tolerate failure after financial backing?
And why should Arteta be measured with inferior managers instead of superior ones?
The gaffer is just sheer bad lucky, he has won more games than all before him over the same time period.
So the law of average dictates he will win a major title soon.
Football is such a funny little phenomenon!
Imagine City fans booing their team for daring to draw against Everton! After all these trophies!
Fact is: trophies are important, but even they are not enough to placate us fans. No matter how many of them we win, we insatiable fans would still moan if results don’t go our way any time
That was pretty incredible. I can just imagine what is going through their players’ minds now (and I doubt it’s extra motivation).
We win Prem mate no one moans and I bet then trophies matter ?
As an older fan who stated supporting the Gunners as an impressionable 12 year old around 67/ 68 after I bought an out of date football annual which featured an article on Arsenal’s history and how Billy Wright was going to bring back the trophies I have to agree with Sue P that our club has more than made us proud over the years. I’ve been lucky to witness three FA Cup and League doubles, an invincible season and a clutch of league nd Cup trophies. Compared to a Spurs fan it’s more bragging rights than I am entitled and to that extent considering my age, I’m pretty much satisfied even if Arsenal don’t win again at least during my lifetime.However, for the younger fans who have never experienced the thrill, it must represent stagnation. Watching other clubs build, rebuild and win trophies is not fun. We can make any kind of excuse to justify why we are better than Chelsea, Manchester City, United and Liverpool but the end result is that we simply weren’t good or ambitious enough. This is the biggest danger. Twenty odd years without a league title can soon become 30 and the stagnation, plus frustration, resignation and lowering expectations of players and fans fans becomes the norm, bringing us down to the same level as Spurs or Everton.
It hardly seems that long, but we do have the consolation of winning 5 FA Cups & 15 Community Shields in that 20 years, as well as some close PL finishes.
I go a bit further back than yourself and remember the so call barren years 53/71 before winning the Fairs Cup. It all goes around.
Perhaps Jax, it’s all because we’re oldies.
I just don’t remember everything being quite so critical. Losing wasn’t great but it didn’t spoil my weekend. The world has changed dramatically and the Premier League has a lot to do with it and Sky .. and the CL. That stopped me supporting an English club in Europe as it could impact on Arsenal’s chances. 🙄
Sue I used to support English and Scottish clubs in Europe too. I won’t mention which ones as I will be trolled by “you know who”😃.TV certainly has much to do with it as most teams have become so accessible. I never saw a football match (apart from the televised cup finals) un less I went out to watch one, and we would travel all over London for a decent game no matter who or where.
Jax,
With all due respect, can we dispense with all this Community Shield nonsense.
Its nothing more than a curtain raiser to the season, nothing more, nothing less. You’ll be telling me next that all teams set out at the start of the season to win either the League or FA Cup so they qualify to play in the Community Shield at the beginning of the following season.
Really!, come on now. Is this what Arsenal have become.
Derek, funnily enough, to participate in the CS, one has to actually win the PL or the FA cup to do just that.
Surely that would mean one would have had a successful season previously?
Last time I looked at the manure official website, they list their CS wins as part of their trophy haul and every time I’ve been to see us play in this curtain raiser, the atmosphere has been incredible and the wins celebrated with the same excitement as winning the fa cup.
So you are correct, it is a curtain raiser, but one most of us are proud of and celebrate to the full.
Ken1945,
I hear what your saying, and yes on a nice warm day in August at Wembley, the winners of the league and FA Cup contest the Community Shield, and yes the winners will celebrate.
And I also acknowledge it would mean we’ve won a trophy of some sort the previous season.
But the point I was making, and I assume you knew what I was really referring to was, doe’s anyone believe that there’s any importance whatsoever at the beginning of season put on winning the League or FA Cup in order to have the chance of winning that major honour of winning the Community Shield.
I don’t care what team wins it, as a fan to hear the manager of my team, count that as a trophy is embarrassing.
Come on, Really!🤷♂️🤦♂️🙄
A real dose of what us oldies went through might just test the likes of Dan, HH and others who seem to be “trophy hunting fans” rather than supporters of the club.
It’s during the barren times that one really becomes a supporter rather than a fan.
I find that with age, my disappointment has taken on a different perspective.
A loss would ruin my weekend, while a win set me up for the week ahead during the early years, but now I find myself shrugging my shoulders at a defeat, while checking the PL table after a win and coming on to JA to read the comments!!
I understand the need to see The Arsenal win the PL – singing “We are the Champions”…. the feeling is absolutely amazing and electric and I want my daughter and grandson to experience it with me at the Emirates.
But if that doesn’t happen, I know for certain that the three of us will still be supporting the club, trophies or not.
Moaning? YES.
Spending Kronkies money? YES.
Being a better manager than Wenger or Arteta? YES😂
But always a supporter of the best club in the world. The Arsenal!!
Not sure why fans bring up being a supporter in the lean times ,60s,70s 80s
This about the here and now ,seems like another excuse to give Arteta as much leeway as he can muster.
History books will remember winners not talkers .
Nothing to do with being a trophy hunter ,it’s about knowing we should be doing better than what we have to put up with and the team we have ,a better manager would have won us a major trophy by now with the outlay this manager as stole off the owners .
We bring up the lean times, mean times and in between times because we can, because we’ve been there and because it’s relevant to the article.
Nothing to do with excusing Arteta, just remembering the days when the club were in more difficult positions than some fans think we are in today.
Trophies were few and far between back then, but the supporters stayed true to the club and understand how difficult it is to be the champions and/or win a domestic cup.
We have witnessed some great football these last two seasons, but we do need to be more consistent that’s for sure.
As for Arteta “stealing” from the owner DK, give it a rest mate, that’s a ridiculous statement!!
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Mate he’s been stealing a living since he joined ,not sure why the cringe 👍s brigade have got involved ,oh I do because they are Arteta fans not Arsenal fans .
Managers 40 years ago didn’t spend countless monies and make excuses Ken mate .
We are talking about the future not the fcking past .
Why anyone would bring up the 70s to try and justify our last 5 years of being on a barron run sums up some our supporters these days .
Didn’t realise you had joined that club .
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But you keep bringing up the past when you say previous managers didn’t spend or have the money, or when you compare the football under Arsene to Mikel!!
I haven’t joined any club or left any club… I just say it as I see it.
You say we deserve more because we’re a big club, so when did we become a big club, in the past or in the future?
While I acknowledge the improvement in the last three seasons, and the connection to the fans is now better than it had been for a long time, and Arteta has to be given his dues for that.
And while I also acknowledge that we haven’t the right to expect to win trophy after trophy, given the opposition and unforeseen circumstances throughout any given season.
Like it or not, we support one of the biggest and most successful clubs that this country has seen. And with that comes a lot of expectation, be it from owners, fans, or pundits, whoever it maybe. Something that there’s no getting away from.
The history of this great club demands success, and when it fails to deliver over long periods, then questions will be rightly asked.
I find it sad that Arteta see winning the Community Shield as a trophy laughable at best, to even say that out loud is embarrassing to be honest. I mean if were going to count that as a trophy, why don’t we go a step further and include the trophy that the club invented, ie: The Emirates Cup. Come on people, that smacks of desperation if we’ve got anyone out there who is thinking along those lines.
While there’s never any guarantee where winning trophy’s are concerned, as a club they need to win trophy’s, because as I said earlier in the piece, our history demands it.
Every fan here wants the club to be successful and to win major titles.
If Arteta includes the community shield as a a “title” we don’t need to get too fussed. This was in response to a journalist who was deliberately being provocative. A section of the media, and certain pundits and fans are trying to drive a narrative of underperformance which is really distasteful.
As of now Arsenal are still one of the strongest teams in Europe. We have not been able to reach some of the levels we reached last season and have been somewhat unlucky this season so but we are still in contention for several titles.
At last you see that every fan / supporter wants the club to be successful, so can you please drop your agenda accusing those of us who point out Arteta’s mistakes want the club to fail.
Once again, you have dishonestly misrepresented my comments. This is one of the reasons I limit my interactions with you and certain others.
I have regularly countered views or criticisms which I believe to be unfair or unbalanced and I will continue to do so whenever I choose.
Quote :”Every fan here wants the club to be successful and to win major titles.”
I agree 100% with that word for word quote, so why do you persist in saying that anyone who questions a Arteta decision has an ulterior motive and/or wants him to fail?
That’s what I’m getting at, so where have I dishonesty misrepresented your comments?
When have I accused anyone that they want the club to fail?
Many times David, by insinuating that wanting Arteta to fail (as you see it) implies that one wants the club to fail.
Perhaps you don’t mean it that way, but I can assure you, that’s the way it comes over… especially when you fly to his defence by calling out whoever dares to criticise him…. think about it and remember I’ve asked you this question numerous times – why would any Arsenal supporter want Mikel Arteta to fail?
Am a Nigeria Gunner and started supporting Arsenal in the 20’s. Unfortunately I didn’t experienced the invicible season or our FA cup win against United. I can’t even remember the year I started supporting Arsenal.
My brother introduced me to England football and he was a United fan and will took me along with him to viewing center. I developed interest and I will watched match recap on our TV at home. Probably that’s how I got to started watching Arsenal match, the O2 team I called, it took me months to know the club name. My brother was very annoyed by my choice of supporting Arsenal as he wanted me to support the same club he support.
It happens to be the period of downturn in Arsene’s years at Arsenal and I had to put up with banters from rival fans especially my brother who couldn’t understand why I chose to support a club that cannot win trophy or spend money in his own words. I spent many years supporting Arsenal without winning a trophy and I never stopped supporting my club. I supported the manager that spent many years without a trophy and, having go through records and history, I realized and believed that he’s the best manager we’ve ever had not because of the trophies he had won for the club but his sacrifices for the club.
I later realized even small clubs have their own fans that are not expecting any trophy from them. I learnt that my love for this club goes beyond winning trophies, I only counts it as extra gain. Trophies, I believe, is more important to players and coaches than fans.
What I demand is competitiveness and consistency and am getting it.
But we’ve different kinds of fans from the genuine to the embarrassing ones. Can you imagine Man City fans booing their players despite their success just because of little slump?
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Man City fans booing their players is not a first and won’t be the last. The same thing happened at Real Madrid and AC Milan. Their fans got so used to their dominance that a slump was hard to take.
I don’t read too much into that because whether we think of those fans as having high standards or being fair weather success chasers, they will still be devoting a part of their lives to watching the next match and following the news of the clubs they booed.
It is my belief that those fans who booed Real Madrid years ago and AC Milan even longer ago are mostly still attending or watching their matches. They just needed more time to come to terms with losing their dominance
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Let’s see how supportive City fans are when the results of the enquiry are published some time soon.
Great attitude Chronicle (and a terrific name). It’s a shame some of the fans here don’t see it as you do.
TBH I do feel a bit of empathy with paying supporters as I once was one and at the prices now charged a trophy or two might relieve their pain.
I agree, Chronicle has a great attitude and effectively articulated what it means to be a real supporter.
It should also be noted most of the paying fans do not feel the same way as some of the ridiculous complainants on here. On the other hand, if people feel they aren’t getting their money’s worth they can give them up. There’s a long waiting list for tickets.
As a paying supporter for over 70 years, I reserve the right to say what I think, while keeping my season ticket and spending my money supporting the club up and down the country.