Arsenal’s bid to sign Kieran Tierney from Celtic is certainly the longest running saga of this transfer window, with the Scottish Champions playing hardball to fend off any cheap departure for their young left-back, but could we finally be seeing an end in sight with just five days of the transfer window remaining?
According to the latest bit of news from SkySports, the Gunners are still confident of coming to an understanding with Celtic. They reported last night…..
Arsenal are expected to make a new offer for Celtic left-back Kieran Tierney over the coming days, according to Sky sources.
The Gunners’ initial £15m bid for Tierney was rejected in June.
A second £25m offer was also turned down due to the deal containing too many add-ons and the dependency of Arsenal qualifying for the Champions League.
Neil Lennon says Celtic will not be flexible regarding their valuation of the Scotland international, as Arsenal’s interest continues.
Meanwhile, Sky Sports News understands the north London club are increasingly confident an agreement can be reached for Tierney before the transfer deadline closes on August 8.
The Celtic boss Neil Lennon has also admitted he was expecting a third offer to arrive for Tierney, as he told The Scotsman: “Normally these things tend to happen again,” he said. “I imagine there will be offers coming in.
“For certain individual players, the asking price hasn’t been met and the clubs know what the asking price is. So until that valuation is met then thankfully we don’t have a decision to make.
“If we’re talking about Arsenal, they have five or six days to come back in with a revised offer.
“The closer it comes to the end of the window and then something crops up, we are prepared for that aspect of it, but it’s not welcome.”
This transfer would certainly be the icing on the cake for Arsenal fans, although we are still desperately waiting for a new centre-back to shore up our notoriously leaky defence. Tierney would be Emery’s fifth signing this window, and who would have believed that back in June?
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Tieney will be great but is he worth all this saga But if his the one thing the present administration thinks will massively improve us what do I know it will be worth waiting for
I dont get why people keep saying Celtic are playing hardball or trying to rip us or let’s walk away if Celtic is playing smart.
Arsenal has been the one trying to play smart here, Arsenal has been the one letting this drag on.
From day one, Celtic made it clear they want 25 million for him. First we went in with a 15 million bid, got rejected, then we try to play Smarter by biding 18transfer fee + add-ons making it 25 million.
The problem has always been the add-on fees and payment plan.
It’s not as if they pulled a Crystal Palace on us by demanding an outraging fee, We’ve agreed to pay the 25 right? Why are we letting it drag on again?
Let’s get this done with please
Think we want to pay the £25m, but not in full and without add-ons.
Nobody’s wants to be that sucker who signs a SPL RB for £25m upfront. Napoli is out. Nobody is in. It’s just us now
Agree with that Eddie
So what happens now with his injury
I think Arsenal should turn their attentionelsewhere
Boly of wolf is my preferred defender
I still think we need a Quality CB and backup RB more but if this goes through I won’t complain lol
Uh oh – Admin mentioned “the icing on the cake”…..Jon Fox is going to come calling ?
I’m only kidding with you, Jon.. I saw your comment, but thought I’d reply here… I was only referring to our transfer window, about the icing, I never expected us to do this much business!! And we all know how we feel about our defence!! I don’t even think he’ll be fit right away.. so unless anything drastic happens in the next few days.. we’ll have to buckle in for the Shkodran/Sokratis show (aka WWE) ?
Sky finally reporting that Arsenal are close to agreeing a deal for Tierney.Only 3 days late. I’m expecting this to be all over the media over the weekend.- @TransferChecker
Tierney next, CB 50-50 – @AfcMedia14
Let’s just say this from my understanding the deal for Nicolas Pepe was ‘significantly’ lower than what has been reported. Club still hopeful of signing a CB and Tierney to be closed within a few days. #afc – @TheFutbolJourno
Seems Coutihno Rumour is gaining steam as well
i dont think he’ll come to pl to join any club other than liverpool
Still can’t believe we haven’t gotten this one out of the way, I thought they were holding back the Pepe announcement so they could announce these two together. Maybe reports of 25m are wrong, and Celtic want it closer to thirty with some performance addons. Arsenal probably want to involve whether we reach the CL, if target is not met then we can’t go that far, we can go to 22m or something. By the sounds coming from the media it seems like it should’ve been done ages ago, you want 25, fine, now we haggle over payment methods with some give and take from both sides. That didn’t happen so I assume this is not as clear cut as the media are portraying it.
It’s been an unbelievable transfer window. Pepe And Cellabos in particular
The only way to make it better would be getting Tierney and a CB and selling or loaning Mustafi
Emery understands better than Wenger how to build a team. Getting a Quality defensive midfielder last season was a huge departure from Wenger’s total attacking philosophy.
We should have a he’ll of an attack this season with Aubameyang, Lacazette, Pepe and Cellabos. Maybe even Ozil will have a good season
Innit,It will NEVER be “an unbelievable transfer window” until we buy one or better still two proper CB ‘s to replace the two clowns MUSTAFI AND SOKRATIS. Get real please! A proper defence is critical to any success. To leave us with those two clowns is a big mistake, but you never know, I suppose, there is still a few days to rectify that. But I do not think it will happen, sadly!
Agree Jon. This has been a good window, but we’ve done everything except improve defense right now. Our CB’s are holding us back massively. And I’m not sold on the Holding being our savior narrative.
“Emery understands better than wenger how to build a team”… WOW! Emery, the man who was mainly responsible for us failing short to reach the UCL because of his indecisiveness! He doesnt even know he’s starting line up let alone building a team! Arsene Wenger is a legend and have done so much for this club so leave him be for christ sake!
Wenger missed UCL two previous seasons. I will only judge USE by his performance this season. The set up & imbalance in our team last season was so obvious.
Ethiogooner, the injuries to Holding, Koscielny, Bellerin and Mavropanos disrupted the defense and made selection difficult.
A Scottish friend of mine mentioned his injury record. Said he’s already missed a lot of games because of it. Not sure what the truth is, anybody know more?
Misses about 10-15 games a season
Not as bad as people like to make out.
Yes he was injured last season and he has had a few other injuries but across last 3 seasons he has played more matches than any of our current back line (except Sokratis who he played the same number of games as).
I posted up comparisons in a previous thread if you want to look for it and see exactly how he compares but to give you a rough idea KT played 43 matches last season, 60 season before that and another 43 the season before that…. imo it’s hard to be injured all the time and still make 146 appearances in 3 seasons.
Please don´t buy Thierny. It’s a big risk to run, when you spend that huge amount of money on an injuried player. And how can he have a medical, when he is injuried.
Try to read the latest report form the media about Thierny:
“CELTIC boss Neil Lennon insists Kieran Tierney is still not fully fit and says he feels pain every time he kicks a ball. Tierney had a double hernia operation earlier this year and has been suffering from an Osteitis Pubis issue that is still giving him problems”
Of course an injured incoming player can have a medical. What do you think happens when already here injured players are recovering? Yes, guess what, THEY ARE UNDER THE CARE OF THE MEDICAL PEOPLE CONSTANTLY. A medical will decide if he is worth buying or not. No one is ever finally signed WITHOUT first undergoing a medical. Not your wisest ever comment!
jon fox. I don’t think you’ve got my point. There is a risk according to the description of his injury, that¨s for sure. A such medical can only be based on a judgement, that’s not a real reliable pfysical medical. There is certainly a big risk considering the huge amount, which we apparently are going to spend on him.
Websurfer…. KT has completely recovered from the hernia op, the osteitis pubis problem was probably from being overused but is almost sorted and Lenny expects KT back in training soon (as of yesterday’s press conference).
25mill for a player who has captained club and country, has Champions league experience (and never gave a bad performance in it against any team), can play anywhere across the back line or as a defensive mid, and with a fantastic work rate is not really a lot….. He is a more rounded player than Wan Bissaka for half the price.
MadHatter, I don’t question Thiernys qualty af player. He could be a superb signing. I advocated myself for signing Thierny for a long time, UNTIL I have been reading about his injuries. I must say the timimg for signing him is bad.
I don’t like the idea of singing injuried players, especially when the price tag is that huge.
I hope your statement of his injuries is correct, then maybe…
Don’t think it really matters whether he’s captained club and country. One player who had done that is Xhaka. Really looked the part before we signed him.
As for CL experience, many in Celtic’s first team have that and I really don’t recall him having any outstanding performances in the CL against top teams.
I do rate him as a very good prospect, but it’s still a big step from SPL to EPL. Those who made it like VVD took a couple of seasons to shine. £15M upfront with add-ons is about the max I would go
Websurfer, It is YOU who fail to understand my clear point. NO club will ever complete an incoming transfer until the thorough medical that all UNDERGO shows whether a current injury is either a temporary one only OR a long term problem. Only then is the transfer either completed or called off. Not difficult to understand I’d suggest to you! Since we do not pay money until the medical people are satisfied he is fine or will be fine real soon, there is NO risk. I further suggest that the clubs highly qualified medics are in a far better position to judge his fitness than are you from mere so called “reports”. This all supposes that the fee will indeed first be agreed, which as yet, seemingly, it is still not.
This is what celtic are asking for.
20m upfront, 5m in 5years installment, 1m any time arsenal QF for CL for its contract duration( 5 year) and 15% sell on fee. Is that too much us?
Not only is it too much, it’s downright ridiculous.
The situation is somewhat like an auction item that everyone bulks at the reserve price. Someone tells you that since you should be able to afford it, why not just put in a bid at the reserve price and it’s yours. Yet you hesitate because you wonder why isn’t anyone else bidding if it’s worthwhile
Hope this Tierney move happens. A good punt on a CB would be Javi Sánchez of Real Madrid. He was on loan to Real Valladolid last season. Young, tall and a good footballer and would cost just a few mill. Could easily get him.
Is Tierney a RB according to above comment? Or a LB according to numerous media reports?
Coutihno coming to Arsenal on loan this summer if it happens will not be a total surprise to me but a half surprise because at the big cost to Arsenal that he’ll come with to the Ems. If Arsenal hierarchy have recognized they need to upgrade the low quality playing in the first team’s left wing position to a high grade quality in playing, haven recently upgraded the low quality in playing in the first team’s left wing to a top quality in playing is a welcome upgrade to me as an Arsenal supporter for life.
However, I have a reservation but not an objection to Arsenal signing Coutihno on loan this summer if at all it’s true that Arsenal are trying to sign him. I think if Coutihno comes to Arsenal on loan this summer at a big financial cost to the club, his coming to Arsenal will be to add significant value to Arsenal campaign efforts that will make the club win the Premier League title and the Europa League Cup next season. Any additional win of one or two of the remaining domestic titles will be a bonus addition to the 2 big titles that Arsenal will queue up for to win next season.
But it is goals scoring and assists giving that results to goals that win matches. But is Coutihno a regular League match and Cup game goals scorer at the top level of the game, or he is just an occasional spectacular goals scorer? Coutihno became a star player after been successful playing at Liverpool. But wouldn’t it be better for Arsenal to use the money that they want invest to loan Coutihno from Barcelona to permanently sign a rising star in Everton Soares who has proved he can be trusted scoring goals regularly at the top level of the game? Arsenal should think very well before they commit themselves. But not just follow their minds but the superior available facts and figures on ground.
How has soares proved he can at the top level?
He still plays in Brazil, he had a decent copa but that doesn’t mean he can cut it in the EPL
He is a left back Samuel.
Is Tierney a RB according to above comment? Or a LB according to numerous media reports?
Coutihno coming to Arsenal on loan this summer if it happens will not be a total surprise to me but a half surprise because at the big cost to Arsenal that he’ll come with to the Ems. If Arsenal hierarchy have recognized they need to upgrade the low quality playing in the first team’s left wing position to a high grade quality in playing, haven recently upgraded the low quality in playing in the first team’s right wing to a top quality in playing is a welcome upgrade to me as an Arsenal supporter for life.
However, I have a reservation but not an objection to Arsenal signing Coutihno on loan this summer if at all it’s true that Arsenal are trying to sign him. I think if Coutihno comes to Arsenal on loan this summer at a big financial cost to the club, his coming to Arsenal will be to add significant value to Arsenal campaign efforts that will make the club win the Premier League title and the Europa League Cup next season. Any additional win of one or two of the remaining domestic titles will be a bonus addition to the 2 big titles that Arsenal will queue up for to win next season.
But it is goals scoring and assists giving that results to goals that win matches. But is Coutihno a regular League match and Cup game goals scorer at the top level of the game, or he is just an occasional spectacular goals scorer? Coutihno became a star player after been successful playing at Liverpool. But wouldn’t it be better for Arsenal to use the money that they want invest to loan Coutihno from Barcelona to permanently sign a rising star in Everton Soares who has proved he can be trusted scoring goals regularly at the top level of the game? Arsenal should think very well before they commit themselves. But not just follow their minds but the superior available facts and figures on ground.
? Samuel, Everton Soares for me.
Surely Arsenal have a second or third option apart from Kieran Tierney. Although I think he is a great prospect, there are concerns about his recovery from his hernia operation and other injury, which have disrupted his playing time.
Arsenal have certainly invested a lot of time and effort, considering the lack of interest by other clubs. All one can do is have faith in the management team.
Now if Raul is using his Barcelona contacts to get Lacazette’s good friend Samuel Umtiti to join Arsenal, that would be the icing on the cake.