Would you give Arteta a new contract?
As we started to hear the news that Jurgen Klopp would be leaving Liverpool at the end of this season, rumours and questions started to fly around about Mikel Arteta and maybe getting a contract extension with the club. From what I’ve gathered, Arsenal don’t feel like they’re in any rush to offer a brand-new contract. Arteta’s contract ends at the end of next season and honestly, there’s no rush to offer a new contract but if we were to do so, do you think he deserves one?
For me, I think so; Arteta gets a lot of stick from our supporters and I feel like a few of them have short term memory loss because Arteta has truly turned this club around and I know Edu has a lot to do with that too, but Arteta looks to have brought some real loyalty and love back to the club.
Players seem to love working under him and love the way he thinks, and for me that’s a massive part of a coach’s job, not only to make them play better but to man manage them right and instil a belief in them that they can go on and win things together.
Now, I understand some people opinions where they just want to be winning always, they want to be winning titles and competing for the highest honours but Arteta for me, has done that. He’s taken us back to The Champions League, he almost won us a title last season and we look on the right track in this one.
I know we’ve seen our club win every game before but in reality we are the only club to ever do that, but it’s not something we should expect. We are always going to lose games and have tough weeks, but it’s how you build from that, that makes you a solid team.
For me, all the best managers in the world at the top clubs (Ferguson, Guardiola, Klopp) have all been given time to implement their styles and build a team around them, and I know Arteta has only won the FA Cup and the Community shield, but we seem to be on the right path and he seems to be building a foundation that we can continue to build on for the future.
Now, I understand a lot of fans want fast results and fast changes but just try remembering where we were four years ago, if you’d told me 4 years ago we would be competing with Manchester City for the title I wouldn’t have believe you! I think it’s more a case of that you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.
What’s your thoughts Gooners? Would you offer Arteta a new contract or do you think we could do better?
Daisy Mae
Yes I would , but I would remove the total control on transfer off his plate.
In all fairness phase five is on target, so why not.
Nah, that’s more like ruining everything. Best he selects who he intends to work with.
Like Lokonga, Taveres, Viera, Marquenios, Willian, Havertz?
Vieira,Marquinhos and most especially Havertz can’t be referred as flops cos they’re very much still with us, with Havertz still contributing while blending in, Vieira mostly injured this season though showed promise in some games last season with physicality being his only down side and Marquinhos out on loan and still young hence one for the future. as for the rest, it is what it is, a recommendation Mikel had to give a try.
“…can’t be referred as flops cos they’re very much still with us”
Weren’t you part of those who called Pepe a flop when he still had 2yrs on his deal?
“…with Havertz still contributing”
So much praise for a £280k p/w, £65m EPL experienced player
“…as for the rest, it is what it is, a recommendation Mikel had to give a try”
I never knew that all non-performing players were “recommended” to Arteta while performing ones were completely his own choices. And you failed to tell us who did the recommendation. Maybe it was you
Well, if you think it’s worth comparing Havertz at this stage of his Arsenal career to Pepe’s entirety, then i don’t know what to say to you, best i put it to rest for now and point it out to you and your likes when it happens.
Don’t say best you put it to rest. Just concede you have been had in this debate.
Are you trying to tell us that other managers don’t make mistakes 😂😂
Personal I wouldn’t because he doesn’t promote youth, exists cup competition early, bottled league and top 4 challenges, got knocked out of Europe by Villarreal, Olympiacos and sporting.He also signed an absolute scrub for 65m.He is a limited tactician and an even worse man manager.Shocking talent id. Fgs we haven’t progressed past the 4th round of the fa cup since he’s been here. I will give him credit for building a good squad but maybe let a real winner take over.
Lets not give afford him opportunities for Excuses if he does not achieve at Arsenal.
Let Arteta have full control on players / Transfers and on the pitch then he can’t have any excuses.
Let’s not have the Emery situation where later if things don’t work out we will all be saying “But Arteta was not given full control on players (In or Out). He was given players he did not fancy and forced to make it work”.
OT: Anyone heard from Dan to be sure he’s fine?
I haven’t seen his weekly EPL predictions post & it’s most unlike him not to drop any predictions when there are EPL games tonight.
I sincerely hope he’s okay.
Though he usually predicts all games, am not sure points from the midweek games are use on his predictions table.
Hope he’s fine too, think his absence maybe more down to a hectic work schedule at the NHS
Dan Smith is very sick at the moment….
Sad to hear that, wishing him a speedy recovery!
He is just too ill to work at the moment
Sorry to hear that Pat. I hope his illness is not serious and wish Dan a full and quick recovery!
Send him my regards please Pat and hope to see him back firing on all cylinders quickly.
No, I wouldn’t. Because this is the first manager who has been given privileges, a lot of money given to him than any other arsenal manager before for that matter but with less to show for it.
It depends who else is realistically available…..
I believe MA has reached his ceiling with us after spending an absolute fortune. The players seem to get stale under his coaching and then he needs to buy to refresh instead of coaching to refresh. If he stays he’ll continuously need an open wallet, anything less and he’ll struggle with only his coaching to fall back on.
Yea, he has done a good job. Solid 7 out of 10.
Alot of decent good signings. 1 or 2 bad 1s
Won a trophy, got us back.in top 4
Alot to be happy about. However, in artetas succes he has been stubborn and thrown away a title challenge. He has also made bad signings and wasted money.
1. Overplaying players – saka, martinelli, rice
2. Bad signings – willian, Haveretz ( yes he got better bur we needed a striker and he is on too much money), Raya (no better or worse than ramsdale).
3. Not making subs
Can you list his good signings and bad signings so we can see the ratio?
Raya is definitely better with his feet and that’s why we have signed him. He’s a modern goalkeeper and this quality will be more important in the future. If Ramsdale can improve his footwork I will choose him instead.
Definitely not, especially when Klopp would be free at the end of the season. It’s worth trying out for him though, even if I know it won’t be anywhere near possible at this time
dgr8xt, Surely you cannot realistically think Klopp would accept the job , even if, in a fantasy world only, he were offered it??
I would add that fantasists recommend “trying for the impossible” but realists KNOW that the impossible is the impossible for a very good reason.
Or two good reasons actually, as there will NOT be a vacancy at A FC for many years ahead.
Exactly! Fans sure don’t know what’s best for the club.
But you do Vamos?!
Yes, i do.
Vamos, I (and probably others) would be sure to benefit from your detailed explanation based on your apparent infinite wisdom of “what is best for the Club”, both at present and into the future?
Still waiting OG!! 🤣🤣
Havertz and Raya can’t be called flops, not just yet!!!
I wanted klopp a year before he went to Liverpool but the Arsenal board never had the bottle to sack Wenger at the time had they done so we would have won a lot more trophies under klopp great manager now that ship has sailed he has already said will not manage another premium league club!
what planet are you on?
Klopp has stated ‘no other PL club’
perhaps we should recruit Bellingham, Mbappe and Haarland while are at it
Pep as Gunnersaurus
There are two sides to this. The Arteta who gets us to play sparkling football….yes. The Arteta who buys Kai Havertz……absolutely Noooo. On balance no, because he starts but cannot finish top.
I would wait until the season is over, but disaster aside, I would give him a new contract.
He’s done a remarkable job turning things around.
I think there are many considerations. Even though Arteta would still be described as relatively inexperienced – certainly compared to the big hitters at the top of the pile – he is now entering a period where I start to expect a continuation of the standards we need of a club that is moving in the right direction.
Just because of the so called “interest from Barcelona”, I don’t believe that should alter anything at all. You have to ask yourselves, how many clubs in Europe are better placed than us and how many have better managers/managers who would come to Arsenal?
I ask, because so often names are put forward that are unrealistic. LIverpool will have a job on their hands to replace Klopp. Potter who did so well at Brighton, sank at Chelsea. Ten Hag who was so well regarded at Ajax has had his struggles at Utd. The team would have to fall off a cliff for Arteta not to get another contract and the hierarchy will know by the closing stages of the season whether to stick or twist.
This. 👍
Arsenal has a long track record of great manager appointments that came out of left field for most people at the time.
Remember “Arsene who?”. Then Emery was seen as a surprise but it’s clear now that he is a great manager. The English language was what did him in. He worked at it after he left Arsenal and improved it and now he is doing a great job at Villa. A case of right manager, wrong time.
And Arteta got a lot of flak when he started (and still does). But as others said, he has done v well looking at where Arsenal was when he took over, with all the dead wood he had to shift. He’s still working on that.
Older people will remember other great Arsenal managers before Wenger. A long history of good appointments.
So maybe trust the Arsenal Board to make the right decision again.
Sue, Lets get real. The hierarchy have known for some time ALREADY they are DEFINITELY going to offer him another contract.
And they also know he will sign it gladly.
Certain folk are attempting to make a story, meaning the Barca rumours, out of nothing. Its just another trumped up rumour to fill a space on JA. As REALISTS know very well.
It’s not the memory loss that bothers real Arsenal fans,but that norm that has always grown to be a dissatisfaction…4years ago we were down but that should not be an excuse… we have been drowned financially; week in week out buy tickets that fails to pay back…For me, unimpressed!
witchant!
Wait till seasons end ,not much else to say .
I would give him a new contract in a heart beat.
Yes, he is still flawed IMO and many of us seem to agree on some of his flaws, rotation or lack there of and strange purchases like Havertz, Vierra to name but 2.
However, for me in this case it is better the devil you know than the devil you don’t know. Arteta can still learn and is still learning but if you don’t give him a new contract than we have to do a re-start with a new manager and who would that be? At the moment there are no managers that “obviously” would do better than Arteta, and it would cause disruption if the squad has to learn a new way to play. One of the assets Arteta did bring is that we have a very clear way of playing, an identity. Bring in another manager and that might change and need time.
I keep my fingers crossed that we manage to qualify for CL football next year and that we buy a real striker and strengthen midfield and (not realistic, knowing how stubborn Arteta can be) sell Havertz.
The way we play “works” for me, the pieces or players that play for us don’t always work for me, but with the right pieces we can win or compete for the PL.
THE AUTHOR ASKS US “WOULD YOU”!
Well, no, I would not actually.
But only because I am a mere fan with no power to make decisions.
I am certain however, that unless illness or unexpected world events prevent it, that MA wil be offered and will accept a longer term contract well before his current contract ends in 2025.
And the sure knowledge of that gladdens my heart!
Of course, but it’s not up to me. In any case though, he’ll get a new contract.
yes, definitely
We should wait until the end of the season and see where we stand.
The positives and negatives are equally balanced in my opinion and if we give MA an extension now, but fail to finish in the top four and lose out in the CL, we would have saddled ourselves with a MASSIVE cancellation figure.
If, however, we finish in the top four and / or win the PL or CL, why would he want to leave anyway?
I would wait until the end of the season.
I would like to see progress and I would like to have seen us have a long run in the cup competitions.
I don’t view Arsenal as realistic title contenders neither do I see them threatening the likes of Madrid in the Champions League
A cup and champions league football would be progress.
I don’t see champions league qualification as progress.
And if we finish outside of the top four, which is a real possibility then he needs to go.
Actually, to be honest I really don’t care if he stays or leaves the club.
At the moment he will be known for nothing much. Just like Emery who he replaced.
Totally
So our first genuine title challenge and in 19 years wasn’t progress?
Me 2. “A cup AND CL progress”?
I presume you are aware that, apart from CL, which is a sort of cup type comp, that we are OUT of both the domestic cups. Your post reads like that of a fan who has no idea we CANNOT win cups AND a CL this year.
REAL FANS WOULD KNOW that fact!
I say extend his contract at the end of the season if he keeps us very competitive at the Top of the table. If the season ends with him just fighting for 4th place or just Top 4 then I would not care if he is fired.
But at the moment who is out there right now that is guaranteed to do better than Arteta right now? I feel like we are much stable under Arteta and what’s the point of getting rid of him now when there is hardly any serious managers around at the moment. Then we have to go through anothwr process. And it’s not guaranteed that the next manager will do any better. We could be back to Hiring and Firing each season.
And Klopp and Pepe are the only serious ones, but let’s get real, Klopp and Pepe ain’t coming to Arsenal.
And also let’s stop flavour of the month manager excitement all the time. Each season there is a different shiny manager at another club that get’s some Arsenals very excited, but then we never hear about that manager the next season. It was Patrick Vieira last season. People wanted Arteta to be sacked so that Vieira could take over.
I think how we finish the season will be very telling. If he doesn’t finish top 4, then no extension while he finishes his final season and we have months to recruit a proper replacement. No buys or sells while he finishes his contract.
Top 4 finish but no trophies or doesn’t reach quarter finals of CL, then maybe a 1 or 2 year extension, and remove some of the control and final decision making regarding loans and transfers.
Finish with a PL or CL trophy, then of course extend his contract, and leave everything in place.
Tons of money has been spent, patience and plenty of control given to Arteta as manager; time for the process to start bearing fruit.
Regardless of how we finish, I would like the club to focus more on bringing youth into the first team. We have some bright and promising youngsters, and they should be included in our roster over players like Elneny and Cedric who rarely if ever play.
If he finish less than 2nd he should go. We should not let Liverpool get Alonso.
Arteta should go to Barcelona where his revolutionary 46 formations in one half of the game, his clever transfer dealings, his eye for academy players and extraordinary ability to influence blind following will see him win treble in his first season.
He is just the man ro return Barcelona to Europe elites just like he made Arsenal a force to be reckoned with. Winning all those trophies and all!
HH
Classic…….though some here wont get the sarcasm
As a yank and 20 year gunner fan, I am obviously not as close to the team as you guys are (at least physically) but imho, teams under Wenger had a very apparent swagger. Teams under subsequent managers did not, and were frankly painful to watch. Under Arteta, that swagger has clearly returned as has Arsenal’s beautiful style of play. I credit Arteta completely for this return of form.
Early renewal? No. There is no reason. Klopp had a contract but he doesn’t want to continue so he will leave, as he would leave if he wanted to run out of his contract but the club management didn’t want to.
If I judge him positively so far? Absolutely yes. He put the train on its tracks. He will be criticized. It is as for individual subjects and not for his overall work. Both Pep and Klopp have made partial mistakes that are judged in retrospect.
No, we should hire Big Sam or Mourinho and play entertaining offensive football 😁👋👋
Arteta will be given a further contract unless there is a severe drop off in performances.
He is one of the best managers in Europe so this would be appropriate.
I believe his current contract runs thru the end of the 2024/2025 season.
So I would wait until the end of this season!
Arteta worried me with the Havertz transfer, so I am a little unsure of his judgement at the moment.
I would also like to see where we finish this season.
If we finish outside of the top 4, and we don’t do well in this years Champions League, we may all need to re-evaluate Arteta.