Yes we have hads a lot of discussion on JustArsenal about Mikel Arteta signing Kai Havertz from Chelsea, and although he has only played with his new team-mates and Arteta’s new tactics for just a few weeks, he is already being written off by quite a few Arsenal fans, which may not have been helped by his transfer fee.
We have already have had two anti-Havertz posts on JA today, but we have also had quite a few pundits and fans coming out in support of the German international.
And of course, our Guvnor Mikel Arteta has publicly shown his faith in his new signing and is sure he will be a star this season, but some abuse I have seen from fans has been quite insulting. But the abuse I have just read from Simon Jordan, who is not very liked by Arsenal fans at the best of times, is the worst vitriol I have heard from him about any Arsenal player.
He was talking about Tomiyasu’s booking for time-wasting last night, and as we all saw, it was Havertz that first went to take the throw but then gave the ball to Tomiyasu 8 seconds before he was booked. And this is what Jordan had to say on TalkSPORT: ‘The game has brought it upon itself, the players and the managers are the reason why we’re in this situation. They need to shut their mouths and get on with playing the game.
‘This will be a non-event. It’s a conscious decision, you got in the habit pretty quick, get out of it. If you think it’s an important part of the game and you’re going to roll around the floor and make a four act play out of it then the consequences of it are you’re going to get booked. You’re a player, your job is to play.
‘There will be errors. To me, Havertz is the ultimate time-waster full stop. I don’t know what he is to Arsenal. Is he a tax loss or something. For crying out loud what have they bought there?
‘There needs to be a consequence, there needs to be a changing of the guard in terms of how the games are controlled.’
Well, that was a bit over the top wasn’t it? I don’t really know what I can say about that, do you? The conversation wasn’t even about Havertz!
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Havertz statistics were good actually, 91% passing accuracy two chances created, 39 touches and the most duel won for the second game running.
But why having gone down a man short with three changes made Havertz remain on the pitch?
Is it that the gaffer wanted to lose the game?
Or is it that the German has a massive presence?
One thing for sure that’s the same way Xhaka was targeted and it was only in his absence we realized his importance.
He has got to be given a chance – two games and the jury is already out is a might unfair. I am not a great fan but I would like to see him do very well at Arsenal and be proven wrong.
Arsenal saw out the game without any drama so I guess Arteta was right and you were WRONG
I don’t know why some people think there’s room & time for Havertz to extend his practice and training into PL matches while players like ESR, Trossard, Viera and Nielsen are left out.
Can someone please explain that.
Havertz is considered a star for some reason, Arteta surely sees it. In Chelsea his performances were not up to the mark, but again, its Chelsea, these days no one can play good there ! Havertz need to prove himself both as a midfielder and striker (as and when needed) though. His performance, apparantly, was not too eye catching, but I am sure Arteta will work on him with success…
Bro We have Trossard and this Guy keeps gettin minutes bro i rather play Pepe in any position than Havertz
This failed owner of Crystal Palace, proceeds to lecture The Arsenal about how to run a club 😂😂😂
The arrogance of these pundits, nearly all who have failed in management or, as in Jordan’s case, ownership of football clubs never ceases to amaze me.
Let’s wait and see what happens with Havertz and, hopefully, we can rub Jordan’s nose in it at the end of the season.
The starting of the last Arsemal’s team that started against Crystal Palace in the Epl at away last Monday night was Arteta’s decision making. Which us Gooners should respect as us support him in his Arsenal project making to turn things around for Arsenal this season. So that us Arsenal won’t go titleless this season as us went last season. But win the quadruple this season. Which is not impossible but a possibility that can come to fruition if all and sundry in the Arsenal’s camp wholeheartedly support Arteta in his Arsenal project to achieve a record breaking title wins for Arsenal this season.
I will not be surprised to see a repeat of the Arsenal’s starts for our last CP away match named by Arteta for our next Epl home match against Gunha but Tomiyansu who Is suspended for the match by the Pumol referee that red carded him last night at Selhurst Park as us know. I think Arteta could start Zinchenko in his place at LB for the Fulham match.
Quadruple?? Iol, it’s good to be ambitious but don’t be greedy.you’re one hell of a guy mate.
I would start with Trossard before Havertz
I’m a huge fan of Jordon but am not sure what that rant was all about. Regarding the throw in debacle, I believe we were not wasting time but as I’ve said before, just crap at taking throw ins as the outfield players don’t give the thrower options.
I don’t think it does Arsenal any good to buy a player (Havertz) at such a price on an experimental basis
The starting of the last Arsemal’s team that started against Crystal Palace in the Epl at away last Monday night was Arteta’s decision making. Which us Gooners should respect as us support him in his Arsenal project making to turn things around for Arsenal this season. So that us Arsenal won’t go titleless this season as us went last season. But win the quadruple this season. Which is not impossible but a possibility that can come to fruition if all and sundry in the Arsenal’s camp wholeheartedly support Arteta in his Arsenal project to achieve a record breaking title wins for Arsenal this season.
I will not be surprised to see a repeat of the Arsenal’s starts for our last CP away match named by Arteta for our next Epl home match against fulham but Tomiyansu who Is suspended for the match by the Pumol referee that red carded him last night at Selhurst Park as us know. I think Arteta could start Zinchenko in his place at LB for the Fulham match.
The Harvetz deal has been intriguing to me from the day it was announced, especially for the fee at which it was done. And, so far, apart perhaps from the Community Shield game against City, I have seen nothing in his game to convince me.
But I will keep “trusting the process” hoping that the end will justify the means.
I remember a certain Xhaka who we booed out of the pitch at a time. But when it was time for him to leave, we didn’t want him to. It may just be the case with Kai Harvetz. What we can’t change, we learn to live with. No point crying over spilt milk
Hmmm
Arteta has enjoyed steady success since taking the reigns at Arsenal and I for one have bought into the process but I have doubts about this Havertz signing which smacks of management hubris to me. Is there really an x factor that Havertz can offer over anything Smith Rowe or Trossard can bring? Its not that he’s a bad player its just that we’ve got enough of those. Even if he goes on to have a terrific season whose to say that the players he’s displaced would not have not equally as well. Our options seem at least as capable.
The simple and only fact about this current topic, is that some are judging Havertz after only 3 games.
Was Saka a baller after 3 games? Was Odegaard playing like a legend after just a few? Absolutely ridiculous! Wenger didn’t win the league in his first season, why wasn’t he sacked?
I hate the social media generation. Bunch of whiney, impatient, spoilt brat know it alls, that actually know nothing!
A few questions.. What if he doesn’t come good though, what’s the cost to the team.. And also at what stage do we accept that he has failed, this season? After 10 or 20 games…??