Should Arsenal extend Jorginho’s contract in the summer?
Our Italian maestro Jorginho walked away with the Man Of The Match Award against Liverpool on the weekend after what was an unbelievable performance from our midfielder. Since joining the Gunners, he probably hasn’t played as much as he would have liked but when he has got the opportunity to play, he never disappoints. The game against Liverpool was no different, but with his contract coming to an end in the summer with the option to extend by 12 months, would you give him another year at the club?
Joining Arsenal on January deadline day last year for only £12 Million on an 18-month contact from rivals Chelsea seems like a steal now, but at the time many fans and myself had questions. We had just tried to sign Moises Caicedo from Brighton but after a few failed attempts, turned their attention to Jorginho at Chelsea and manged to agree a deal with our rivals for the midfielder.
The 31-year-old started off life at Arsenal as a regular in the team and was putting in impressive performances consistently and became an important part of last season’s squad. He really started to look comfortable in pre-season in America last year and since then has looked great whenever called upon.
Scoring his first goal for the club in our 6-0 win over RC Lens in our return to The Champions League this season when he stepped up to the spot just before full time and smashed the ball into the bottom left-hand corner of the net. Since then, he’s spent a lot of time on the bench while Rice and Havertz have begun to get regular games over him in the midfield, but recently Arteta seems to be trusting him a bit more and he’s started to get some more minutes. Assisting Gabriel Martinelli’s goal against Crystal Palace in January that saw us walk away 5-0 winners.
Although he isn’t always the first player to be picked, he consistently puts in good performances and is able to bring a sense of security to our midfield that I don’t think we get from any other player. He’s got a defensive mind set but is good at bringing the ball forward and finding teammates in space to pass into.
His contract runs out in just a few months and personally I think we would be stupid not to extend it by at least the 12 months that we’re able to. When he’s not playing, he’s a great squad player and I think his experience is necessary in a team like ours that has so many young talents, he somewhat balances things out and as long as he’s happy to, I think we should be keeping him.
What’s your thoughts Gooners? Do you want Jorginho to stay at the club for another 12 months at least? Or do you think we should move him on?
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It’s only one game where there was no run at our midfield so he had all the time to dictate the midfield. Any pacy and power midfielder will destroy him.
Giving one more year? Another Elneny in the making, this time at 150k a week.
Elneny has been the most underrated player at Arsenal ever so that is not at all a bad thing!
Lets get this into perspective. It was one game out of many poor ones. His legs have gone and i think the game suited him the way it went against Liverpool. No, he shouldn’t get a new contract but we should get someone in to replace him, with legs. Lets not get all gooey ga ga.
How many poor games has Jorginho had for Arsenal?
Many. He has been slated many time for his poor games, on here and by pundits. He cant run for one.
Err Reggie,
okay tell me; which bad games are we talking about in actual fact?
Nearly everyone he played in before the Liverpool one. Don’t try and make out, he has been top drawer. Its only a few weeks ago on here, many were on about the Chelsea rejects we get that are not good enough, including and mentioning him.
I’m not the only one that has asked you this question Reggie.
Name one and I will check the ratings….
https://www.justarsenal.com/jorginhos-performance-was-the-one-bright-spark-from-the-liverpool-defeat/357499
https://www.justarsenal.com/do-arsenal-fans-think-jorginho-now-deserves-a-new-contract-extension/353290
I dont know what you are on about “ratings”. Im on about people on this very site (and others, which dont need to be in this discussion) who have not rated Jorghinos performances in the past for us and have called his abilities into question. People have very short memories, when it suits. He hasn’t covered himself in glory and it has been written about on JA. My opinion is he is not good enough, i have never rated him at Chelsea either and it has been said on here before, why did we buy him. Im not on my own on this.
He has won more than every other Arsenal player put together. “He’s not good enough” shows a total lack of understanding about the player and his position.
As good as he was against Liverpool I think we need to aspire to greater things and either bring in Zubimendi or just play Zinchenko there instead!
Jorghino had a great game, but he cannot deliver those performances on a consistent basis.
We need to upgrade on positions, we cannot be sentimental if we want to improve.
For example:
upgrade striker position, whether it is Nketiah or Gabriel
upgrade the midfield; replace Partey and bring in a legit B2B midfielder, no more square pegs in round holes.
upgrade at LB; Zinchenko is good on his day, but he is a woeful defender, injury prone, and the weak link in defense that teams target for a reason.
Tahnk Jorghino for his service, and wish him the best and much success, ELSEWHERE.
your wish list is drifting in to fantasy list territory
that list is £300+ which plainly we can not afford, FFP or not
compromise and making the best of what we got with 1 or 2 quality upgrades not 5 or 6
midfield is a particular dilemma if all three of Partey, Elneny and Jorginho need to be replaced – that is two players and £100+ accounted for
remember the call out is for top drawer striker which will be £100m minimum, probably more
defence is already thin
we can’t have it all
keeping one of three can defer that spend for one more year
of the three Jorginho is the stand out best bet in terms of ability, form and consistency
so if you want the elite prolific 30 goal a season striker (if one even exists) then most of budget goes on one player in one position
so something has to give
in that case keeping Jorginho for one more year is an intelligent move for those who inhabit planet earth
Fantasy? Jorginho extension intelligent? I would say far more sentimental than intelligent. Average players won’t yield titles.
Not every top player is 100 million like you insinuate.
Tomiyasu is quality, versatile, and consistent, all for 20 million.
Gabriel was 27 million, Saliba a similar price; best CB pairing in league for less than 60 million.
Partey was 45 million, great at first before injuries.
Zubimendi has 52 million buyout clause, very reasonable. Robinson LB is reasonable as well, both improvements over Jorginho and Zinchenko.
Lastly, Havertz 65 million and Vieira 34 million, poor spending which could have been used on the 100 million striker you say.
We have found quality players for good fees, it just requires good scouting. You insinuate 300 million more which is histrionic and ridiculous.
Zubimendi midfield, Robinson defensive LB is quite affordable, and if Palace offer 30 million for Nketiah is true, then 3 new additions for around 140 million, a typical Summer spending for Arteta and a last transfer push to complete the squad.
Sell or don’t extend players to raise funds, don’t settle for average players with occasional performances, like Jorginho you suggest.
Exactly right Durand. Far too many non realitsi nfans arew far too emotinally attched to playre who arte loyal hard working, even likeable , but who simply dont POSSESS ENOUGH QUALITY. I refer to such as Elneny and fail to understand WHAT ANY Gooner sees in him? Any idea what?!!
Jorginho is plainly far more naturally talented than Elneny but he is NOT regularly effective ENOUGH, at the level any title chasing club NEEDS, week in , week out.
We must aspire to a squad at Citys level, not one at say Wolves level with several sub par players. I would let Jorginho leave in summer. No question about it either.
Jon
Thank you, another voice of reason who can plainly see the light.
If we take the advice of Arsenal1886 we will be loaded with average players past their sell by date.
Spend wisely! We both have said as much!
Vieira, a timid luxury player unsuited for the PL in both physique and play, a waste of 34 million.
Havertz 65 million spent on a player who has failed to convince in the PL for several years. Doesn’t beat out Jesus as striker, Odegaard as a 10, or ESR as a midfielder. Massive fees and wages for minimal return on production and performances.
We need to trim the fat raise funds and reinvest the money wisely.
Tierney, Partey, Vieira, Nketiah are sellable, it just requires honest analysis and hard decision making for the betterment of the club.
I am about to send Ja in an article about what qualities a top modern era manager needs. I would welcome your thoughts Durand, when it appears ,possibly tomorrow.
In it I mention the waste of money by MA on sub par players, though I also credit other of his POSITIVE qualities.
well, perhaps if you’d ever kicked a football outside of a school playground you’d know how good and how underrated Elneny is. The criticism of him baffles. His pass completion ratio is off the scale, he is always in space to receive a pass and he never panics. He’s a fine player.
Exceptional against Liverpool and hasn’t let us down in any game he’s played for us, can’t really understand the slagging off he gets and unless a really good, reasonably priced replacement suddenly appears, I’ll bet he stays longer.
Keep him, as he’ll be a good squad player.
First pf all, if Arsenal extend Jorginho’s contract with them by a year next summer. But will that extending limit Arsenal to just one new defensive holding midfielder signing next summer? Instead of them to sign 2 new HDFMs probably RSO’s Martin Zubimendi and Everton’s Amouduo Onana. But the duo could cost Arsenal a lot of money to sign them both in the same transfer window.
But if by the mercies showing of God that ndureth for ever. Partey stays but I know Jon Fox will say NO! He won’t be fit to stay. But with God nothing shall be impossible. But I think Elneny’s contract will not be extended again. But if he agrees Arteta could add him to his coaching staff. But has he a coaching licence?
Back to Jorginho. Let us hope that his man of the match performance award in Arsenal’s last Epl home match against Liverpool was not one off top quality performance show.
Jorginho may no longer be able to play in every Arsenal remaining 15 Epl matches of the season. Principally because of his advancing age. But if he can reproduce his last Liverpool man of the match performance in at least 8 o the remaining 15 Arsenal Epl matches of the season. That will includes against Chelsea, Man Utd, Tottenham Hs, Aston Villa, Newcastle and Man City. Lading to Arsenal beating those 6 very strong teams at home and away. And also help Arsenal win the Ucl title this season with big performance contributed contribution for them in the competition.
Why not? Arsenal can extend his contract with the club by a year with an option of another year to take at season’s end but if he wants it.
He is going to be really important in big European games. He has the skill set and experience, I would keep him around next season just for those
Yes please.
With Partey and Elneny likely gone in the summer, we need Jorginho around provided we also sign a good Partey replacement in a Zubimendi or Luiz.
An unequivocal no.. arsenal needs to get rid of the dead woods. Typical of players playing out of their skin when time to renew contracts is around the corner. But when contract is done and dusted, they revert back to type. Jorginho is at best a squad player whose advancing age is a deterrent to making a renewal when onana from Everton can be gotten to replace both him and partey. Jorginho, elneny, nketiah and harvetz need to be shown the way out for us to be seen as an elite club with serious ambition. No sentiment
Release Elneny and keep jorginho
We can also leave TP if not better offer comes in, but only on a slash wages.
My take is to bring in a better b2b midfielder in the mould of
Douglas Luiz
Goretzka
Palphinha (dmf)
Bruno (Newcastle united)
Lucas paqueta
These are the players that can improve our midfield.
Let’s see going forward if Jorginho will be consistent.
One thing for sure is that El Neny and Partey will leave. Therefore, Jorginho will have an extension since finances may allow only for one midfielder and a striker. Otherwise, if Jorginho leaves in addition to Elneny and Partey, then someone must be promoted from the academy to fill up the space.
On the other hand, it’s a bad idea to promote someone from the academy who will not have regular minutes to develop their game. Arteta doesn’t have a good policy when it concerns giving minutes to squad players to spur their development.
Man U is doing it; Liverpool, Man City, Aston Villa etc are all doing it except Arteta. He’s very poor in squad rotation.
In reality, Havertz should be playing from the bench
I’d keep Jorginho on a rolling one year contract. He isn’t a ‘journeyman’ pro and has, by Arteta’s account, been playing through considerable pain until recently. There are others who I’d be letting go first
I agree with this, SueP – I don’t think jorginho has “earned” a big contract, but as you say, there are others I’d sooner see moved on, his playing style fits our team really well and I really think he’s a positive influence in the background. I have complained about his inconsistency, but if he has been playing through injuries, that would flip the narrative in my mind. A rolling or shorter term (2yr) contract while we looked for a younger midfielder to challenge for the first team would probably be best.
No problem extending as long as his wages stay the same and more importantly that it doesn’t stop the signing of a permanent fixture to partner Rice in the midfield.
As I always say, when we dominate possession then Jorginho is a great addition to the team….but when we are under proper pressure from opposition he goes completely missing and is a liability. He can fill a bit part role definitely
He is also a superb influence on younger players, even top lads like Rice can learn from him.
I would keep him for one more year, even if we buy another DM in the summer. especially since it seems Partey is out the door!
Jorgi would be a good back-up should Rice or our new defensive midfielder get injured!!
The game against Liverpool was the closest we got to last years midfield. Two DM’s flanking Odegaard, and it worked.
So, will Arteta play the same midfield against West Ham, with Havertz up front?
If Arteta starts withJesus up front, I would keep Havertz on the bench, and bring him on at half time, to relieve Jesus.
PS,
Despite all of the praise for ESR, I notice he doesn’t make it for the big games (in Arteta’s mind)
If we sell him in the summer, we get lots of FFP (PSR) points.
That should help us when buying our new DM and our really big fast forward.