There’s talk of Arsenal moving for Chelsea’s Kai Havertz, a transfer interest that I’m sure baffles many. What’s so special about Havertz? I believe if the Gunners are to sign a forward who was at Chelsea last season, then Joao Felix should be their man.
Initially, in the winter transfer window, Arsenal was keen on the Atletico Madrid man joining on loan as a replacement for the injured Jesus. However, the fact that Atletico Madrid wanted around €15 million and Arsenal to pay his full salary (of about €6 million) saw the loan deal fail to materialise.
Chelsea went on to get Felix on board. His loan stay at Stamford Bridge hasn’t been great. He started by missing games due to a red card he picked up on his debut, then failed to live up to his billing, only netting four goals in 16 games.
I’m against those who label the Atletico man as finished. For the better part of 2022 and even his time at Chelsea, the 2019 Golden Boy winner has struggled due to not being on good terms with his coach; reports suggested he didn’t see eye to eye with Diego Simeone, and the fact that at Chelsea, who never know how to get the best out of players, in 5 months he had to adapt to the styles of three different coaches.
With good coaching like Arteta’s one-on-one, Felix may see his career rejuvenated.
Getting him on the board may be a challenge, but with the lacklustre performance he put on while at Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, who may be desperate to sell him, may have to tame their appetite for a rich bid for his sale. Chelsea would want £50–£60 million for Havertz, and I believe that if the La Liga side wants to sell Felix at a premium, that’s the reasonable range they may demand.
Some Gooners will be against paying all that for Felix; that move could be how they get their attack to where they want to be. Felix can play up top and out wide. With him joining Arteta’s attack, the options for attack could be as follows:
Left Wing: Martinelli, Smith-Rowe, and Felix
Striker: Jesus, Felix, Nketiah
Right Wing: Saka, Nelson, and Trossard
Tell me how the Arsenal attack will struggle with such depth? Edu and Arteta, please forget about Havertz and sign Felix instead.
Paul Brown
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I’d prefer Havertz, because he is a tall left-footed AM. He can play in Xhaka’s/ Odegaard’s positions, play false nine and highly useful in set-pieces
In my opinion, Martinelli and Jesus are trickier than Felix on the left wing. I reckon Felix to be a highly-technical jack-of-all-trades, but doesn’t really specialize in any role
Havertz will also be much cheaper to sign permanently, because of his contract length. A towering left-footed AM with good technical abilities like him is rare and he used to play CF well under Tuchel’s guidance
Gai,
It all depends on Arteta’s priority. I think if not for price, Havertz is more useful in Epl for Arsenal than Felix. We have players in Arsenal that can do what Felix. Havertz is left footed and a natural midfielder which makes him a good replacement for GXhaka. If Arsenal manages to sign DRice, MCanceido with a dynamic Towering forward and get Saliba to sign then, we are good for next season. Kewior can always deputise for Zichenko if Thieney leaves and TYasu will be back to compete with BWhite. May be we need a full back though baring injuries.
If Arsenal sell Tierney, they would likely play without conventional fullback next season. White usually plays right CB when we have the ball
I believe the rumors about Sacha Boey and Ivan Fresneda are fake, because Fabrizio Romano said Arsenal haven’t made any contact with their agents yet
I agree with you GAI if we are choosing between the two of them.
He’s immensely talented, but has the same problem as havertz – he’s not really a striker! It appears to me that he would be perfect in a traditional no10/CAM role behind the forwards, like rui Costa or Zidane, but not many clubs play that way – we certainly don’t.
I do think he’s a good cf, but not a natural, and very similar to jesus in what he offers (not a 20 goal striker). The consensus appears to be that we need someone a bit different.
Haverts and Felix are both fine footballers but neither are natural finishers nor are they adept at holding up the ball under physical pressure.Neither fits the bill as far as I am concerned.
We already have good attacking players but as I have always advocated good height should be an added advantage for a new recruit into Arsenal. That is true of Harvaz and Rice. Harvaz can make better option if the price is reasonably low and for the purpose of bolstering team depth to match our expanded role in the next season. Harvaz cannot be dismissed as a solid player but he is not far from those we have in Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus, Nketiah and Saka.
Do we have to buy either? I’m sure there must be better out there if we have committed to adding to our already formidable goal-scoring forwards.
” formidable goal-scoring team…
Those are used materials
I don’t fancy Havertz at all. He is just nothing specific as a footballer, definitely not what we need as a goal scoring forward.
We need, Caicedo, Rice and Osimhen. Tehn we are ready to go.
Have some imagination. Rice is hugely overrated and overpriced. Caicedo is good but not £70M good that’s just ridiculous. Osimhen is good but again he won’t join us when he can take his pick. Lower your expectations and avoid disappointment.
Kai Havertz to Arsenal makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. Some of this speculation just elevates ones BP and could easily trigger an unnecessary tirade against those responsible at the club.
A powerful striker in the mould of Benteke and Lukaku (at their peak) should be our priority for next season. We are too lightweight upfront. Jesus might have transformed our attack this season, but he’s not physical enough or prolific enough for a side like Arsenal. Nketiah I’m not sure is quite ready, though happy to be proven wrong. A striker for me should be our priority ahead of any other position.
..we need muscle + pace +skill in the midfield and as CF,
If we had a Pasqueta or Guimeraes or joelington in the midfield alongside Partey, then Odegaard and Jesus would triumph, I doubt Villa would let Watkins leave,
We need an unknown beast from a different league to light up the Emirates,
Once we get muscles in the midfield, our attack and defence are 70% covered.
THIS TACTICS IS JUST TOP-4 IDEOLOGY; WHY NOT:
SIMONS,FELIX,JESUS,TROSSARD,MARTINELLI,SAKA;
TIELLEMANS,XHAKA,PARTEY,ODEGARD,ROWE,VIERA,[RICE/CAICEDO];
WHITE,GABRIEL,ZINCHENKO,JAKUB,TOMMY,SALIBA,WILLIAMS(FULHAM),TIERNEY,IVAN;
TURNER,RAMSDALE,LOAN GOALIE!
You guys are all mental. Some of the names you want us to or think we’ll sign are crazy! Declan Rice does seem to want to join but honestly I’d prefer he didn’t and went to Chelsea instead. Osimhen isn’t coming to Arsenal. EVER!! Caicedo is good but overrated. He’s no Makelele or Kante, and I don’t think he or Rice are the right sort of player for us.
My choices would be:
Lucas Paqueta because he’s better than Xhaka.
Sergij Milinkovic-Savic because he’s better than Xhaka and huge.
Martin Zubimendi because he’s young and I like his name.
Jonathon David because he scored more than Balogun and is an Arsenal fan and presses more than any striker in Europe.
Manuel Locatelli because he also has an awesome name and cool hair.
Leonardo Spinazzola because he plays anywhere down the left side and is awesome.
Youri Tielemens because he’s free and proven in the EPL but needs a slap.
Denzel Dumfries because he’s an absolute stud.
Players I would take from Chelsea:
Trevoh Chalobah because he’s young, English, cheap and underrated. Kai Havertz because I reckon there’s a real player in there and could be our next RvP. Lewis Hall because he is young, English and perfect cover for Zinchenko.
I’m right and you all know it.
@Ben, say no more, you are the real gem,
I’m beginning to believe Rice and Caicedo are a decoy by Edu and Arteta, because they are overrated, Pasqueta is a better player than both combined, it was obvious even in the euro finals,
I also believe Havertz has a name in him waiting to be written in gold, and I feel Arsenal will sign him alongside Zubimendi, as for Dumfries not sure he’s within our budget but I wish, he’s the bully we need to support Saka,
I hope we sign the best of the best and in good time.
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Alas, @longbenark I know you are right about Denzel, but we can dream. Have you ever seen a player cover the turf with such ease? He’s an incredible athlete. I think the Locatelli ship has sailed as well, sadly. I suspect his mole would’ve annoyed me eventually, so maybe it’s a good thing.
On a more serious note, I think Tielemens represents by far the best bit of business if we can get it done. No one can pretend Declan Rice and Caicedo £70-100M better than Teilemens. And if Havertz will come O doubt he will cost much either. We’ll see.
Dumfries is such an awesome bully,he needs to give Kyle walker a taste of his medicine, how I wish,Well we can only dream,
I hope we get our business done ASAP and hope they have muscles and pace.
Rice and Caicedo are over priced, if we do get them, I hope they prove me wrong.
At least after tonight’s game the deluded fans crying out we need Lukaku will shut up. Having said that Inter were desperately unlucky. Had they had Martinellii , Jesus and Saka they would have destroyed City. The game also highlighted the importance of a good manager. Inzaghi is just one of many Italian managers working on shoe string budgets but we ho can still bring out highly competitive teams.
Lukaku did well, Dzeko barely passed Akanji and Diaz,
If lukaku had been on from the start,just maybe, Martinez never really had any impacts also,he was too emotional in play,
Lukaku still has some bites in him.
I don’t mind him in an Arsenal shirt, as well as Harvetz.
At even money, considering permanent moves would be quite similar cost, Havertz all day long.
Why is it that the Gooners aren’t much interested to see Arteta keeps Folarin Balogun for Arsenal’s next summer campaign? And speak out loudly for him their supports for him to not be sold this summer by Arsenal as being insulated Arsenal might at Arteta’s instance. But rather press Arteta thought their comments making posted to say Arteta should not jettison Balogun for the club’s next summer campaign. But retain him in his next Arsenal squad. And gives him many playing time opportunities to start. And come off the bench as a sub regularly to play in Arsenal’s Epl, Ucl and domestic Cup games next summer star for Arsenal. And proved himself he has arrived and ready to ge as a regular to goals scorer for Arsenal. Ready to shine for the club and himself but if Arteta gives him the chance.
None of those strikers are close to prolific enough
Not needed.
Our attack is prolific enough. Got to channel our energy to defence now. When we lost any of our attackers through injury or exhaustion, our goals did not dry up.
However when we lost our defensive players for the same reasons the team looked vulnerable. So now with Saliba’s signature all bt sealed we definitely need to focus on acquiring 2 defensive midfielders.
With Arteta giving us a preview of the inverted rightback setup towards the end of the season, i expect also a rightback to be recruited ie. Fresnayda or Boey.
ALWAYS FORWARD!!!