Arsenal stats – Would Ramsdale be an improvement on Bernd Leno?

Stats analysis between Ramsdale and Bernd Leno

To much of the Arsenal fans’ frustrations, Arsenal’s interest in Sheffield United’ Aaron Ramsdale appears to be genuine. The intensity of the interest is so huge that the Gunners would be willing to pay the £20-30 million that is being quoted for the 23-year-old.

Although the England international is talented, young and of international pedigree, it seems obvious that Arsenal are willing to pay an inflated fee for a ‘homegrown player.’

With the North London outfit open to offers for Ainsley Maitland-Niles, Eddie Nketiah, Reiss Nelson, Hector Bellerin and even Joe Willock, it’s clear that they will be short in numbers for homegrown players come next season. And even if they sell them all we will still need Stan Kroenke to put his hand in his pocket to buy all the replacements.

The club has already been on the lookout for English players, and a deal for Ben White looks to be close. In fact Arsenal are odds-on favourites to sign the Brighton defender, and if you are considering having a few bob on that hapening, perhaps you should think about using some promo codes for betting.

James Maddison still holds the interest of the Arsenal board, but the club would have to raise a significant amount of money from sales, if they have any hopes of landing the Leicester City star.

After White, Ramsdale might well be the second English signing made by the club this summer. So, what is the thing which Arsenal fans don’t see in the goalkeeper but the Arsenal board can?

Before we jump onto his stats, mentioning that he’s better at his feet and has a knack of coming out to punch the danger away are two things. The Athletic reporter James McNicholas said on the Arseblog Arsecast Extra on Monday, that there is a feeling inside the club that Leno does not command his space as much as he should (paraphrased it a bit).

It’s worth pointing out that few figures might not be as comparable, considering Ramsdale has played for two teams who have been extremely poor and eventually got relegated from Premier League.

Aaron Ramsdale’s figure of Saves and Save Percentage last season was actually one of the best in the league, and placed him in the top 10 percentile. His numbers of 3.82 and 70.7% were better than Leno’s 2.41 and 69.2% per 90 minutes.

As the German shot-stopper played for one of the most robust defensive sides of last season, his figures of Clean Sheet/Goals Against was naturally better at 0.32/1.06 than Ramsdale’s 0.13/1.66.

However, apart from those two figures, Ramsdale actually comes ou better than the former Bayer Leverkusen man. The 23-year-old’s Passes Attempted/Passes Completed (>40 yards) figure was impressive at 22.61/7.63.

While Leno had a lot of catching up to do with his English counterpart. The German stood at a lowly 9.72/3.16.

With the acquisition of the Englishman, Arsenal can expect to bypass the first line of press with greater effectiveness. That’s clearly something Mikel Arteta has craved from his shot-stopper.

The former Bournemouth man was also a superior head between the two when the metric came to Crosses Stopped %. Ramsdale’s number was at an admirable 9.5%, while Leno was way behind than his figure of 8.4% suggests.

Despite Ramsdale’s few impressive stats, he has clear shortcomings too, he actually conceded 3.7 goals more than you’d expect the average PL ‘keeper to let in last season. But Ramsdale clearly has more presence in the six-yard box than the German, who has looked hesitant to come out of his line on several occasions.

Judging by the stats, Arsenal clearly want to prefer a goalkeeper who has a good commanding ability in the 12-yard box. Also, Ramsdale turned 23 just a month ago, which is an appealing factor in a goalkeeper.

If Arsenal sign him, they can expect him to stay between their posts for more than a decade.

But it’s clear that Ramsdale is not considered an attractive proposition by the Gunners faithful, including me. When Andre Onana is available for a third of the price which is being quoted for the Englishman, it will be so Arsenal to sign Ramsdale.

In my opinion, Arsenal should look to sell Bernd Leno this summer, while adding a homegrown player who is not as expensive as Ramsdale as a makeshift first-choice. Someone like Newcastle United’s Freddie Woodman would do the job for me.

The money that will be raised from Leno’s sale can used to acquire Onana as well as Freddie Woodman.

Until Onana’s ban comes to a close, Woodman can be given the chances. However, the two major problems are whether the Newcastle man would fit in the Premier League from the get-go. And what if he gets injured? I feel like screaming when I imagine Rúnar Alex Rúnarsson between the posts.

Regardless, all these were hypothetical situations. I don’t think the Arsenal board look at decisions from fans’ perspective.

And that can be good sometimes but bad the other.

Yash Bisht

Tags Aaron Ramsdale leno

57 Comments

  1. Yash Bisht says:

    Although he has some impressive stats, I don’t want to hear any news linking Ramsdale to Arsenal. What do you guys think?

    1. Yash Bisht says:

      would love to hear from you!

    2. gooner4life says:

      The board could do better much better!!!

  2. Loose Cannon says:

    Avery informative article by Yash, in fact Aaron looks a better keeper than Leno who played for a poor team.The last Englishman between the sticks was Seaman, follwed by the mercural Lehman, even since it went spriral downward and ended in another costly blunder by Wenger to pay some 20M for Leno and sone 10M for Petr Chek.Silly that some find 20M too much for Aaron, when Wenger dished out 20M for a very very mediocre Leno who won us nothing to justify his fee and wage. Time to say Goodbye Leno!

    1. ahmad73 says:

      Wenger didn’t sign Leno.

    2. Dan kit says:

      Wenger didnt sign Leno though bud,
      Bless you ,you have gone another Wenger rant when he had nothing he to do with the signing .

    3. Kenny says:

      Arsene’s hater’s habitual punt at our righteous manager who is respected by Alex Ferguson, Pep Guardiola and many more without checking facts.

      What’s a immature attempt?
      Manager Unai Emery
      https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2781896-arsenal-transfer-news-gunners-reportedly-agree-fee-for-keeper-bernd-leno

  3. Dan kit says:

    All the figures you have quoted yash mean little while comparing 2 keepers for 2 different teams playing for 2 different managers and playing to 2 different strategies .
    You did one a while back comparing the Ajax man against Leno but again they play in completely different leagues
    Arsenal and Leno had the 3rd best defence in the league last season that’s what I look at and will continue to do .
    I appreciate your time spent looking up these figures but for me they mean little while looking at the other whole picture .

    1. jon fox says:

      DAN, HOW GOOD THOUGH HOW RARE TO BE ABLE TO AGREE WITH YOU.
      Yash seems, to my mind, NOT to be fond of comparing like with like; he prefers like with unlike, IMO.

    2. Yash Bisht says:

      I am just putting out the stats for people to see and have a look at where their strengths lie. If they get an idea, even if a vague one, then I am still satisfied mate.

  4. kev says:

    Everything is now playing out in the media with regards to Ben White(50m) and Lokonga(19m). Done deal!!!! Someone is always always ahead.

    Smith- Rowe already agreed a new deal as said days ago

    1. Dan kit says:

      So they were done deals last week but the club haven’t announced it yet 🤔

      1. kev says:

        Everything has to play out relax and there are contexts to these things. For e.g in Ben White’s case he’s with the English squad. For Lokonga its clear Anderlecht were trying to start a bidding war to drive up his price. This does not take away the fact that both deals are greed and done deals pending a medical. I remember one time when I told people here Wilshire agreed a contract but still didn’t sign it. I got a lot of flak because people said an agreement means signature which is not necessarily true because verbally agreeing to a contract don’t mean its signed. Wilshire confirmed this in his video imlying he agreed it but wanted to leave.

        1. Kedar says:

          Hi Kev
          Anything on Nuno Tavares
          It seems we have signed him also..
          Benfica Left Back

          1. kev says:

            ”Nuno Tavares to Arsenal is a done deal, only medicals left to do. The final fee is around €8m Euros. Arsenal have their back up LB pending medicals.

            Tavares wage was only £5k at Benfica, AFC are set to triple his wages to a still humble figure of £15-20k a week”

            This is your answer. Cheers

    2. kev says:

      Wait a min. Ornstein just confirmed Smith-Rowe has a verbal contract with Arsenal?? Something I reported from the ITK’s days ago?? Yh guess who’s late hahaha

      1. A J says:

        Come on Kev’.

        All common knowledge, you can get this “stuff” from any half decent social media feed.

        My family know a current top flight international keeper (my lad roomed with him) who drops us odds and ends here and there – but he’d soon be an ex-friend if I came on sites such as J A and blurted it all out.

        Real ITK’s keep their council until the ink is dry.

  5. jon fox says:

    Whjat dwarfs ALL other aspects put together in a keeper is his ability to stop shots and headers. That is my firm opinion and onTHAT matter LENO is still a top class keeper.

    I realise of course that he is not the best when facing corners and wide crosses and I do not claim he is world c;lass; of course he is not. Nor with the ball at his feet either.

    But , UNLESS we get a far superior shot stopper, then I say leave well alone. I do not believe RAMSDALE is a better keeper. He is less good, IMO.

    1. A J says:

      Totally agree Jon.

      What I believe to be clouding opinion re’ Leno, is the Martinez sale.

      Overnight Leno becomes the villain of the piece in some eyes ?

      I seem to recall ;

      2019 / 2020;

      ” Fans have picked Bernd Leno as Arsenal’s second best player of the season with the German as integral at the back as Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang was at the other end”.

      Could we improve (go world class) – yes.

      Is it our most pressing issue – no.

      But I believe a huge factor here to be Arteta’s complete devotion to playing out from the back (which is clearly set to continue) ……. starting with the keeper – not the strongest aspect of Leno’s game.

      1. kev says:

        Leno’s reflexes have never been in doubt and it seems like a lot of fans didn’t know him before he signed for us. He is error prone and when he was signed I knew it would come to this if his flaws were exposed. YouTube can be deceitful. He doesn’t look like a pressing issue because of the problem of our squad but it is not worth having an error prone Gk. Martinez always had potential but his main problem has always been ball handling which he seems to have worked on. Its like he corrected most of his flaws and is now showing why Arsenal bought him in the first place

      2. jon fox says:

        Spot on AJ!

      3. Ozziegunner says:

        👍

    2. Yash Bisht says:

      I have the same opinion. But there are aspects where Ramsdale is clearly better than Leno

      1. jon fox says:

        But not overall. No way! As a shot stopper, which is by far what MOST MATTERS, Leno is far better.

  6. A J says:

    Premier League most clean sheets 2020/21 season;

    1) Position
    2) Player
    3) Clean sheets
    4) Minutes Played

    1st Ederson 19 3,240
    2nd Edouard Mendy 16 2,745
    3rd Emiliano Martinez 15 3,420
    4th Hugo Lloris 12 3,420
    =5th Nick Pope 11 2,880
    =5th Bernd Leno 11 3,132
    =5th Illan Meslier 11 3,150
    =6th Kasper Schmeichel 10 3,420
    =6th Robert Sanchez 10 2,430
    =6th Jordan Pickford 10 2,743
    =6th Alisson 10 2,970
    =6th Lukasz Fabianski 10 3,150

    Correct as of 19:30, 23/05/21.

    Most saves: Premier League 2020/21 season;

    1) Position
    2) Player
    3) Saves
    4) Minutes Played

    1st Sam Johnstone 166 3,330
    2nd Aaron Ramsdale 147 3,420
    3rd Emiliano Martinez 142 3,420
    4th Illan Meslier 140 3,150
    5th Alphonse Areola 116 3,240
    =6th Nick Pope 114 2,880
    =6th Hugo Lloris 114 3,420
    7th Vicente Guaita 106 3,330
    8th Lukasz Fabianski 103 3,150
    9th Rui Patricio 100 3,329

    15th Bernd Leno 86 3,132

    Correct as of 19:30, 23/05/21.

  7. Kobin says:

    Rems…who?

  8. Sean Williams says:

    He does not dominate the penalty area as Martinez does. He is a good shot stopper. Not sure he is that much better than Matt Ryan. Our major need is a midfield creative general, so Nabil Fekir or James Maddison. If Arteta screws the midfield creative position up we will not improve very much. We need a new ‘Santi Cazorla’ and both Arteta and Edu worry me as they seem to be looking at non-creative positions. My level of confidence in Edu/Arteta……4/10.

  9. kev says:

    Leno will leave Arsenal one way or the other. He’s still highly error prone but his reflexes are world class. Its sad but many keepers fall into that category. Even Pickford is one who’s reflexes is just as good or maybe even better but he’s even more error prone making him worse overall. I’m unsure about the quality of Ramsdale and Onana at this moment

  10. Joe Allysons says:

    This stat was for passes greater than 40 yards. how many times in the last 4 seasons have you seen any top team coach preferring that his keeper play a pass longer than 20 yards? Ramsdale is obviously going to have better stats there because Leno isn’t asked to play like that. I’m 500% confident, if you check Ramsdale short pass stats, he’ll be worse than Leno.

    1. Yash Bisht says:

      Ever seen Ederson and Alisson pinging 40 plus accurate passes. I was talking about THAT mate. Not goalkicks

      1. Joe Allysons says:

        I’d like you to look up their pass stats, they’ll still be less accurate than ramsdale I’d think. Also, most of a goal keepers passes are going to be goal kicks and restarts. I don’t think any of the teams Ramsdale played for are sending the ball back just for just, and your stat doesn’t specify which phase of play the data was curated from.

  11. omotosho says:

    why can’t we just sign onana which is better than ramsdale
    and leno combined… it’s tiring to hear just links and no signings

    1. Yash Bisht says:

      It seems Arsenal don’t want to invest in a player who is banned at the start of the campaign. We will have no chance of acquiring him on a free transfer next season.

    2. Ozziegunner says:

      👍 👍 Onana is an absolute bargain at the moment, with the suspension. Just sign Mat Ryan to cover for Onana, then compete with Leno in a three way competition.
      As much as I like Aaron Ramsdale, talking about replacing Berndt Leno in my view, is totally disrespectful to Leno’s efforts for Arsenal over the last three seasons. He was arguably the Club’s best player during this period.

      1. Ozziegunner says:

        Also Arsenal has higher priorities in midfield.

        1. Rob Holding it together says:

          Totally agree. Buy Onana, in the long run he could be our man for a decade. Buy Woodman too, and give Okonkwo a new contract but loan him out. £20m for two keepers and refresh youth GK deal is good business.

          Onana can’t play until Nov, and will miss Jan-Feb/March for AFCON. Means Leno remains number 1, with Woodman and Onana fighting for Leno’s spot. Leno plays better when he has a decent challenge from within. Then next summer sell Leno £10-15m after a good season (albeit with 1year left on his contract hence the lower fee). Go into 22/23 season with Onana as first choice, then Woodman as second, Okonkwo as third 👍

          Spending anything over £12m on Ramsdale is ridiculous and short-sighted. I worry about our transfer strategy, especially at GK. Selling Martinez was stupid, buying Runarsson was really bad. Links to Raya were a concern – good in the Championship but would be eaten alive in the PL, good shot-stopper but too flappy and generally not big or strong enough to keep a PL defence calm.

  12. omotosho says:

    and 19 yo leftback ridvan yilmanz
    we forgot about bissouma too

    1. Yash Bisht says:

      One good thing at a time brother. First let’s wrap up the deals for White, Lokonga and Tavares

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  14. Namo says:

    Typical Arsenal. Focusing on areas that are not our major problem.
    We lacked creativity in the first half of the season. Too many sideways and back passes. We improved slightly with Odegaard and ESR, in the second half of the season. Why not focus on the CAM position first?
    We’re spending time and energy in search of a goal keeper and defenders.
    Even if we change our entire backline, including the goalkeeper, if we don’t do anything reasonable to improve creativity in the team, I don’t see us making top4.

    1. Joe Allysons says:

      A man with a head on his shoulders.

      I think CAM and LB should be primary priorities. I don’t even think we should sanction any sales until those positions are sorted.

    2. Ozziegunner says:

      Namo and Joe, exactly right; upgraded ACM to take the pressure off ESR, DM to allow Partey to fill his best role as box to box midfielder, RB to replace Hector Bellerin and backup LB for Kieran Tierney.

  15. mish says:

    well we aint in CL, EUROPA or CONFERENCE LEAGUE, its a blessing in disguise, i say we get our creative midfielder in Nabir fekir (no to madison) or maybe a loan for coutinho, retain granit Xhaka, should he push for a move, then brake bank for wilfred Ndidi to pair Partey, add fire power in attack and concentrate on the league, FA cup and the other mickey mouse/ Mancity cup……..the goal is simple win the premier league, taking advantage of our absence in europe, chelsea did it few years ago, why cant we, with the right signings and arteta knowing his starting eleven

  16. 03 gooner says:

    On the fence with ramsdale, thought he was very good at Bournemouth, shot stopping was good and good with his feet so would help playing out from the back. Then he moved to Sheffield United and struggled before settling down. He is very young, so can still improve plus you mentioned homegrown factor. We don’t know what’s happening with Leno, if he leaves we will need two new keepers. So I’m not totally against this signing.

  17. Sue says:

    Sorry but i don’t rate Ramsdale.. we can do better!! And I hope we’re not bothering with Berge either!!

    1. Sean Williams says:

      Sue

      100% Agree. Both Ramsdale and Berge are no better than who we have now. They are lower tier players.

    2. A J says:

      Tavares (Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel) and Lokonga seem to have gone beyond the 1 of a 1000 players we are signing, and will be the first to arrive any hour now.

      White after Euro’s (need to get them out of the way).

      Fair enough, but nowhere near enough – I’m sure more out … more in.

    3. Rob Holding it together says:

      Raya, Anderson, Berge, Ramsdale, Perreira, Toney, Aarons, Buendia, Adli, etc
      We are being linked with way too many players who played Championship football last season (or its equivalent) or were relegated. One or two isn’t bad, as more often than not they add bite and know how to battle but if we want to climb the PL table we need players who we know are capable of dragging their teams up there. We won’t ever catch Chelsea, City, Liverpool etc by bringing in worse players than them.

  18. Matthew says:

    Anyone but leno for me will do a better job,even runnarson

    1. A J says:

      Hi Matthew – a joke right ?

    2. Dhoni says:

      Eii Runnarson hmm. Watch what u wish for. But can’t we sign Matt Ryan for free rather that waste the funds on a risky/gamble signing. The guy is an Arsenal fan he will play his heart out for us. We always like the hard way. I leave it here

      1. Ozziegunner says:

        👍

  19. Matthew says:

    For me runnarson was not given enough games to really prove himself,he was judged based on his performance against man city alone while leno has been costing us points with so many errors leading to goal,..i think Arteta still has a long way to go in terms of man management&preferencial treatment of players

    1. Ozziegunner says:

      Matthew, how many points did Leno save Arsenal in the last three seasons?

    2. A J says:

      Hi Matthew.

      You don’t have to be Mikel Artea to see Runnarson is no where near the level required.

      When called upon against Man’ City in the 4 -1 defeat, any individual off the street could see he was not the answer.

      In the very game mentioned above Alex R let the Mahrez (weak) free kick in straight through 2 two hands.

      One error I know, but it certainly did not bode well.

      Runnarson will not become Arsenal’s 1 or 2, and eventually will be moved on.

      Our runner up player of the year 2019/2020 (Leno) has certainly saved us more points than he’s cost us.

  20. JW says:

    I keep reading that Arsenal are looking to finish in the top 4 next season.
    But when I look at who we are linked with, it appears to me we are back shopping in Walworths again.

    Our competitors for the top 4 spots, from the reports I read, are shopping at Harrods.

    Ramsdale, despite what our GK coach may say, is a very ordinary keeper. He looks small and a little overweight.
    He has cheap and cheerful written all over him.
    I assume he is going to replace Leno, rather than being a back-up, which if true really worries me.
    I hope I am wrong about the lad, but I fear I am not!

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