Gooners are hurting right now, and in the last couple of days, they have been seeking accountability. Should Mikel Arteta lose his job? Will he start next season under pressure to lift a trophy? Should there be a review of our recruitment team for failing to bring in any attackers in January? Should our owners look in the mirror? On one hand, they are paying someone millions of pounds to run their company daily, but when that person stresses you’re short in a certain area, you fail to act. In most institutions that make serious money, that doesn’t happen.
Here’s the issue: It doesn’t matter what I write or what you comment. It’s irrelevant what 60,000 chant at the weekend or how early they leave. YouTubers can scream down the camera, but they are talking to a ghost. Pundits can critique, but they are wasting energy. The only man whose opinion matters lives in America, and not only will he not be sacking anyone this summer, he will be delighted with how things are going in North London.
Now, clearly, if a fan base is unhappy but the man in charge feels the opposite, there is a disconnect. Yet our manager is not silly. He’s cerebral enough to understand that his future is safe as long as the man who pays his wages is content. Privately, I’m sure the Spaniard at home complains to his wife that he wishes his employers had more ambition. Yet, for £9 million a year, most will tolerate it. That fee is not justified by silverware because that’s never been the criteria. Where Arteta earns his money is by smiling and being positive before the Leicester game, changing the narrative even though it contradicts his own stance. He’s paid to quote the company line, to be the Kroenke family’s shield.
This happened for years to Mr Wenger, who had his love for the club exploited. The Frenchman was willing to take the bullets because of his connection with supporters. He at least could hide behind the need to pay off stadium debt. He had to cope with selling his best talent every year while maintaining Champions League qualification. I stressed that when he left, we would realise how hard it was to ‘only’ be in the top four under the current regime.
Arsenal are just a small part of Stan Kroenke’s sports portfolio. From the USA, naturally, other domestic sports are more of interest to him. His following of the Gunners will be limited. He wouldn’t have watched Saturday’s game followed by AFTV. He probably wouldn’t be able to tell you who we have next in Europe. He might even be unaware we are playing on Wednesday. He would struggle to name you a greatest XI. He probably occasionally, on a conference call, will check in, and his advisors will tell him he’s on course for more revenue from UEFA next season. That being in the last 16 of the Champions League this campaign means an additional £12 million, and the Varsity range has sold well, and that the Emirates has been sold out every game. That doesn’t make him a bad person. There is no rule that only a fan can purchase a club. He’s a businessman. In any business, the priority is to make as much cash as possible. He’s a billionaire because he takes emotion out of his choices. So based on the income he makes compared to what he puts in, because we are a self-sustained model, he will be delighted by the work being done back in England. If he had a choice, of course, he would prefer us to end our Premier League drought, but financially, it makes little difference. The team could finish 8th, and he knows shirts will still sell, tickets will be bought, and TV companies will still want us. A genius business model. Own a franchise so huge that you make money off the brand. If 10,000 throw away their season tickets, so many more are on the waiting list.

They even manipulated customers in December during a living crisis to pay over the odds for new merchandise, yet got the same people to make excuses a month later as to why a billionaire family couldn’t afford to help the squad. I almost admire the audacity. Even if it has become Josh’s plaything, the family is not going to alter a model that has made them so wealthy. To be fair, they never pretended otherwise. Stan first joined our board in 2006! Since 2011, he’s had over 60 per cent of shares. So for 14 years, he’s had major power and control over how the club is run. The evidence has been there for over a decade that winning isn’t a priority to him. Some of my peers want to judge only the timeframe since he became the official custodian of the club. That’s either wishful thinking or their definition of a supporter having to say all things are rainbows and unicorns. I’m shocked how some have reacted like somehow the last few weeks have been any different from our reality. I’m even more astounded that they think at 77, Stan Kroenke will suddenly care. This is a man who took us to our worst league position in 25 years, zero European football for the first time in a quarter of a century, then rewarded Arteta with a pay rise for finishing… 5th! This very season, he made Arteta the third-highest-paid coach in the world! So logically, that tells me he’s satisfied with being runners-up. Common sense says if you get a pay increase for 5th and 2nd, your job is secure if you reach 2nd again.
We are the voice of the voiceless. The only way our whisper turns into a shout is if our stadium suddenly empties. That won’t happen. We’ll get to August, get excited by a new striker who will conveniently arrive before Adidas launches a new kit. The manufacturer will release a quality promotional video starring Ian Wright. This will work as many fall for the promise of more new faces, which will translate to some sort of saga that goes on the entire summer. I’ll be called negative as some call another top 4 place progress. While Arteta will get a new contract! The Kroenke family love the job he’s doing, and they are the ones who count. Not sure how we change that.
It’s nearly impossible for every Arsenal fan in Europe to boycott the matches and empty the stadium.
There are over a million people all over the world who one of their biggest dream is to watch a game live inside the Emirates stadium, including me so there will always be people available to buy the tickets and fill up the stadium.
And that’s the unfortunate part of having an owner who is negligent and non-chalant to the fans cries and plead for a completely successful season of wining a trophy.
I started supporting this club since 2003 as a young gunner and I have only watched us lift 7 trophies, 1 epl and 6 fa cups in 22 years.
Of, course I’m not including the Community shield because to me it’s a very minor cup.
The FA Cup is the only tangible thing we can boast of.
Kroenke has done quite well these past few years but he still needs to put in more effort by hiring the right executives and sporting director who are passionate about football and success.
I believe they won’t sack Arteta so he needs to take the right step and hire a very good sporting director who is hungry for success and knows how to acquire top talents then he can work well with Arteta and put Arteta in check.
SJ,
I agree with you regarding fans boycotting games. But sadly that’s the only way that clubs would sit up and take notice, if the games were being played in front of mostly empty stadiums. I think even the players would find it hard to deal with.
Unfortunately there is always a waiting replacement for tickets.
So unless fans are willing to vote with there feet, there really isn’t any point in moaning about the prices that are charged, because the clubs clearly don’t care what the fans think. Sad, but true.
second in the PL
third in CL group stage
nailed on for CL next season too (not even skewed JA doom mongers see us 6th)
calling for boycott and empty stadiums is embarrassing, pathetic petulant spoilt brats, get a grip
Arsenal1886,
If your post does not refers to me then my apologies if it does. But if it is directed at me, then I shall answer.
I was commenting on something SJ said in his post. I wasn’t suggesting people to boycott the games. I was just saying that if fans don’t like the price’s being charged the only real way to get there point across was to vote with there feet.
The fact is clubs don’t care what they charge the fans, because they know two things. Firstly, they know the fans will have a moan about prices and then still buy the tickets anyway. And secondly, they also know that for every fan that doesn’t want to buy a ticket, there are other mugs out there that will.🤦♂️
My piece had nothing to do with the teams performances on the pitch.
So Arsenal1886 before calling people petulant, please read there posts properly.🙄
Well at least they have spent the money. Buf if MA has spent it wisely, is another story.
The whole purchase of Havertz is a mystery which I will never, ever understand. This is not on Havertz personally, this is on Arsenal and whoever sanctioned this deal.
How can you buy a player who’s considered a failure at the seller club, and manage to reimburse them 94% of the original price? How? How is he a £65 million player based on his past 3 years at Chelsea?
This whole deal has financially burdened us:
– 3rd of the summer budget spent on
– highest wages
– occupies strikers position in the squad
What is his resale value? Who would match his wages?
With Kai Havertz salary, you can get:
5 Bryan Mbeumo’s
2 Alexander Isak’s
1 Omar Marmoush
This is whole deal was unreal and still is. We needed a striker and this is what we got into.
The signing of Havertz was a disgusting move.
It just shows how premature Arteta and Edu are in the footballing business.
Very poor business from them indeed.
To make matters worse they still took Sterling on loan this season.
It just seems like the Chelsea board cast some voodoo spells on Edu and Arteta before offering their rejected players to them. 😂
Very true, that’s why I repeat, we need a better manager. And you’re talking of Kai alone, there’s Gabby J, Zinny, Tomi wasting wages and spots as they were not replaced in time. Then we are paying for Lokonga and Fabio. Lost money on Laca, Auba, Martinez, Ramsdale. Let’s forget the past stop gap players he sighed. Total mismanagement of funds. My grief with the owners is that they rewarded mediocrity, first with Mr. Wenger and now with Mikel, while harshly treating a European hero like Emery
Many people hounded Emery out on social media and in the field, including Ozil
I read many bad comments about Emery on Just Arsenal, similar to what Arteta is currently getting
@gai
Arteta isn’t getting anywhere near the fan ugliness as Unai got. Here on JA or on other social media platforms. I’ve seen written here by a few that Unai wasn’t the right fit for AFC. He was a proven winner of numerous European trophies with several different clubs. And yet, he was sacked and we hired a rookie with zero managerial experience in management. Not to mention managing a club of AFCs stature.
I’m not here to dump on Arteta. He’s the current manager of the club I’ve supported since “83/84”. And I’ll support him until he’s released from the position. I don’t do ugly. No one deserves that when all they did was try as best as they felt they could.
Agree NY.
Well said NYG!!!
You’re absolutely right NYG in your sentiments but it doesn’t alter my view at the time that it wasn’t working. I was never insulting towards him as some were (which made excruciating reading) but the fact remains that he was highly qualified and it went horribly wrong after a strong start. So wrong that he became a lame duck.
Where I do fundamentally agree with you is Arteta had no previous experience so no career trophies to compare with Emery. A huge risk was taken and Emery still has those trophies and Arteta is a mile behind.
It’s somewhat ironic though, that Arteta is under so much pressure for returning the club to CL football and Emery gets so many excuses made in his favour. From tonight’s showing they are on 42 points, in 10th place and with a newly strengthened squad and with decent investment. If that was Arteta right now there would be a lynching
@Sue P
He was a lame duck from the start. A coach, not a manager with next to zero support from the board. Yeah, Villa took a serious hit tonight and they sit 10th in the table. But he took them from 2places above the drop zone, to playing CL in less than 2 years.
No one, me included are making any excuses for Unais time at AFC. His tenure speaks for itself, as does the situations surrounding it. Same goes for Arteta tenure at AFC. And as many excuses as you and others might try to make for him. Close to six years and nearly a billion £s spent with zero to show for it, any other manager would have been sacked…Just saying.
Typical.
You make excuses for Emery then right in the same paragraph say you are not making excuses. Then you go right on to say others are making excuses for someone else.
Whilst we haven’t one a title in the last few years Arsenal have clearly made progress from where we were.
You are just the opposite side of the coin David. When you accuse people of making excuses for UE, take a good hard look at yourself for the excuses you made for MA. It’s makes NYG look like an apologist novice compared to you the absolute legend
I am not the opposite of anything. I have stated what I believe are mitigating factors for our performances and I do not shy away from them.
What Mr Gunner has done is to start by making excuses for Emery and then going on to claim he is not making excuses.
@David
I made no excuses for Unai. I merely replied to Sue with facts concerning his time at Villa so far. Get it right or leave it alone…
David,
I don’t know where you’ve been but we haven’t won a title for 21 years. That’s just a bit more than your few years comment.🤦♂️🤷♂️
NYG
The board supported Emery to the tune of over £200m. So he was hardly a lame duck. David is right. If I have made excuses for Arteta then you have to recognise that you have made excuses for Emery but fail to recognise it as so many do as well.
SueP, 80M + was paid for Pepe’s transfer – one which Unai did not want, remember he wanted Zaha? How can a world class proven manager like Unai be treated so bad? Agree, Arsenal and our fans are not used to winning European trophies, and he was on the verge of delivering it, but was backstabbed by some players whom our fans worshiped, so can understand the dislike for Unai. Second – he was the coach, not the manager, had no say in transfers. Had the board appointed him as manager, respected him and sought his valuable inputs in transfers, he would have had his team and put out dissent in the manner Mikel did. If I have to applaud Mikel, it is his handling of the pranksters. Unai was deliberately failed to preserve the “legacy” of Mr. Wenger, had he won the Europa, majority of the fans would have forgotten Mr. Wenger
TSRS
I do remember it all.
Now you are making excuses. I could re write a list of my excuses for the position Arteta currently finds himself in but you know what’s in it anyway. I’ve just read yours in support of Emery and I’ve read the same ones time and time again elsewhere. If I’m an apologist then so are they and that must include you. It’s only about a difference of opinion.
However, I agree with you that had Emery won the EPL or the Europa League then normal service would have been resumed and AW would have remained (and still remains)a deservedly much admired former manager as Emery forged a winning future at Arsenal
Sue, we should form the ArtetaAplogists’Association(AAA).
I will though agree with something somebody or other said, that he should have remained just as coach and never made manger, at least until some major success had been achieved.
Jax
Quite rightly Arteta should not have been given so much power so quickly. I am in favour of a good working relationship between a director of football with the coach. His salary is ludicrously high when considering what’s offered across the board. Arteta also hasn’t a leg to stand on if recruitment goes wrong in the current situation. This and other issues are the responsibility of the top brass to provide proper leadership.
Everyone is trying to second guess what’s going on and until Edu’s replacement is confirmed the club appears to be operating in a state of limbo
AAA member😂
Why on earth would players “stab Emery in the back” during a European Cup final?!
Do you really believe that professional footballers would do that?
Give me strength!!
How do you compare MA to UE when one has more than 3 times the tenure and more than 3 times the spending compared to the other? It’s not even comparing apples to oranges, more like apples to melons.
You really ought to recognise the number of times you made excuses for MA compare to the times NYG has for UE. It’s clear as day who has made more
Emery was in charge for a very short period and was supported to the tune of £200m plus. I don’t understand why you find it so difficult to understand that both have been well supported financially.
As for excuses, everyone makes excuses.
Except one was 3 times more than the other. Apples to melons. Just like everyone makes excuses except some more than others
Net spend mate they spent approx 25 million in last 3 windows
There are reasons sometimes, you have to control your net spend, to keep within spending guidelines. And I dispute what you are saying. 24/25 net spend so far 25 mil. The year before net spend 160 mil. The year before that 163 mil. Its all on transfer market. I don’t know where your figures have come from.
I think Arsenal fc know their role well in the EPL entertainment industry, to me it’s beginning to look like WWE, planned but entertaining.
We owe the Krankies over 300 mil in loans. We have spent the second most money of any team in Europe over the last 4 years. We are close to various spending restraints in the Premier league and Europe, without making it ludicrously dangerous to our ability to improve the squad regularly. I am a massive moaner when we do things wrong. Whatever you say about our owner as regards a disconnect, that may have some legs. BUT do NOT call them for lack of investment. They are the owners, know jack shit about football, they hire people to do the football side, they just provide the business model. The failure is the running of the club at the front line. The player sales 🤣 the player acquisitions and the squad building is NOT down to the owner. Please get your facts right. It is down to his/their employees. THEY have been backed to the hilt.
Reality check, we have NEVER had so much money poured into this team/squad.
Net spend 25 million in 3 windows
They have invested 200 million of own money into squad since 2006
The rest is our own money
They are billionaires
That has nothing to do with keeping within spending limits and managing the finance so we don’t bust the flush. We still owe kronk 300 mil in loans. Payment for that all has an impact. They have spent more than any other owner and more than many other owners. It isn’t their fault. You are way off the mark. It is their employees.
Not according to transfer market and the last 3 years. You are way out.
Well we spent nothing in January and nothing last January so tell me your maths for the summer
This is the issue , fans just make things up
I’m even being kind and not including loans with obligations to buy
Strange you include two January windows in you assessment. Clubs everywhere generally do not spend in January. Thats a fact. You are way off on your assessment of not spending on this team.
Well no I literally said in last 3 windows
Your the one who disputed it
So just think
Last January we needed a striker correct ?
Summer we needed a striker ?
This Jan we needed a striker ?
In all three windows a chance to take that next step and they spend a net spend of 25 million approx ( although you dispute this apparently lol )
Yet NEVER had so much money been spent thrown at the team lol ?
What has that got to do with keeping within spending limits, that is the main factor for not buying over inflated players in January? And i do think that you are Cherry picking to suit a narative you have. January is a poor time to improve a team. Thats a fact.
Yet other clubs managed it ?
I can name you players who would have added to our attack and given us more options that wouldn’t have cost anything
I didn’t cherry pick
I said something factually true and you were caught not telling the truth
Question is why ?
Reggie, The finacial results for Arsenal Holdings Ltd are avaiable for all to see. It is very easy to see what finacial transaction to place at Arsenal FC for the last ,say 3 seasons, so you can either shoot Dan down or eat humble pie.
@Reggie
RealTalk…👍🏾
Irony ….when you say real talk
This is transfer market for the summer that he said he referred too ….
Transfer record
Arrivals/Departures Fee
Income 14 €83.79m
Expenditure 10 €108.90m
Overall balance €-25.11m
January 0 spent
Last January 0 spent
So in the last 3 windows net profit about 25 million
But im way out lol ?
Some fans will make things up for own agenda
But you are way off the bigger picture.
Well I’m not
I said last 3 windows
You said I’m way out
I used your own source to prove you just made that up
Now I wonder why you would do that ?
Oh I am sorry, you are making out the owner is not supporting the club. I choose a bigger timescale to prove he is. You choose to choose two of the worst windows to buy a player and a summer dictated by spending limits.
Three quite important windows considering where we were ?
Look at City
Champions 4 years in a row
They have one bad year and look how they respond in January
That’s because they have standards and won’t tolerate dropping past those standards
So as owners they say to Pep…what do you need
Why didn’t our owners ?
So yeah sorry last two Januarys were huge opportunity missed
The owner is supporting the club for success. Saying he isn’t is plain wrong. Cherry picking 3 windows, two in January is not making any point at all. We have spend probably as close to the limit of our spend that we could. Because we had a bad January this year, I don’t see how that is down to Kronke. Especially when no players suitable, or targets, were available. The only one we could and probably should have got. Arteta decided he didn’t want loan signed strikers because he wanted player he could work long term with. You should be looking closer to home for any blame.
Okay well you already lied about the last 3 windows
Can you show me where Arteta said
‘he didn’t want loan signed strikers because he wanted player he could work long term with’
Or is this something you made up again ?
Because I can show you where he says we are short up front and need help
Ok now you are being a dick and getting personal. Do one.
And the only liar is you.
Asking where / when Arteta said he didn’t want a player on loan is getting personal ? Lol
It’s just football mate lol
No Falsely calling me a liar is getting personal. And thats coming from someone who lied to make and article about Liverpool fans causing trouble at the CL final. And would not accept the truth that it was NOT Liverpool fans fault at all. And that after Ken and myself, who I knew someone stood in the queue and told you exactly what went on. But you still wouldn’t believe it and to this day, even though you have been proved wrong, admit your article was full of lies.
A lie is when you said something that is not true
That is different to an opinion
So you can say you think the Koronke Family have backed Arteta and that’s how how feel
You can’t say , it’s not true that in last 3 windows we have not net spent approx 25 million then say you didn’t say ot imply it
I’ll give you example,
West Ham fan said to me at weekend Arsenal never won anything in Europe
I said that’s not factually true
When I pointed out our trophies won in Europe he said …. Oh well it’s not the CL is it ?
So was that West Ham fan telling the truth or just making something up ?
All very good and nice, but the litmus test will be the summer window. We either go big, or tread water, and treading water means just doing enough to keep us in the top four.
The problem is if we spend big it is likely on more crappy players .We won’t get Isak so we will end up buying Sesko who will turn out to be a non scoring striker like Jesus.Of all the money Arteta has spent which players have been successful .That’s been the issue .We but players find they are useless and then send them on loan until their contracts are finished.What a waste.So don’t blame the owners blame Arteta.Finally why didn’t we buy Marmoush in Jan .Scores goals and was relatively cheap and available
Dan,
You have never been impressed with Arteta appointment since the start and you have voiced that view countless times.
Why the recently sudden shift in your view and you sorely blame the owners EVEN THOUGH TANGIBLE EVIDENCE THROWS YOUR ARGUMENT OUT OF THE WINDOW?
Has Arteta reached out to you perhaps?
No mate I always said I liked Arteta but he’s simply not as good as people make out
You know for long time I said no one will win title under these owners
My stance is he can’t do more then ask his employers for help
He said we were short in attack and they didn’t help
Any business that fails the responsibility is on the owners
So, you think there isn’t a manager out there that could have won the league in the last 5 years with all the investment? I don’t but that, i am sorry.
Not under these owners
Constantly scared to take the next step
January proved that
How many big clubs do you know who essentially give up half way through the season
January proved nothing. I suppose the 800 mil and loaning AFC 300 mil means nothing, compared to January.
That’s the point
January proved everything you need to know
Will set us back years
But mate you can’t make things up then when caught out change narrative lol
You said in last 3 windows I was way off with my next spend quote
January? That is not a reason to blame Kronke. Where have you seen or heard that he said, you are not having any money for signings. And January is a bad time for good signings.
Well I think there were no signings because there were .. no signings
An owners with ambition would have acted like City owners did
I can name you signings better then Sterling or Merino up front ?
I don’t think the owners restricted MA from signing a striker with the ample funds made available to him in the past few seasons. If he doesn’t help himself when the need for a striker was clearly there season after season, doubt you should blames the owners for not bending over backwards to attend to his last minute request. MA simply left it too late
It’s clear as the sun that what we need is a 20+ goal per league season striker to take us across the finish line.
Arteta’s only fa cup win was delivered to him by Aubameyang so why does he believe he can win a trophy without a 20+ goal striker.
Without Thiery Henry’s goals Arsene Wenger wouldn’t have been our greatest manager ever.
Arteta needs to get this clear and get us a 20+ goals striker this summer.
I don’t even think Sesko is the man for that either.
The highest he might give us in the tough Epl is 15 goals and that wouldn’t get us across the finish line.
We are in dire need of a 20 – 30 goals per season striker.
Gyokeres – 80m pounds
Oshimen – 70m pounds
L. Martinez – 70m pounds
Isak – 120m pounds
We get one of these strikers in this summer and we stand a great chance of winning a trophy.
If we play proper football and not the directionless one we played by Arteta. At first it was effective but now other coaches have found way around it.
It isn’t a coincidence that him, Pep and Maresca team are finding it hard to win consistently.
If we play proper football and not the directionless one we played by Arteta. At first it was effective but now other coaches have found way around it.
It isn’t a coincidence that him, Pep and Maresca team are finding it hard to win consistently.
I think this is one of Dan’s best articles. We really need the reality check as Arsenal fans
I’m sure Arteta will survive this year as long as Arsenal get a UCL ticket, because Kroenke would likely not want to spend a lot of money for the huge severance package
But I believe next summer will be different case, since Arteta will only have one year left on his contract
We can only hope for:
– A miracle this season
– Saka, Saliba and Magalhaes extending their contracts that will end in 2027
– Great summer transfer activities
At this point, it is 3rd year of so close, yet so far – and this might actually bite. Imagine a scenario where Real Madrid loses Vini to Saudi, and get a 300m transfer fee(reasonable?). If they come with 200m offer for Saliba and Saka, will they not be tempted?
For me the buck stops with Arteta. His choice of player purchases have been sub-optimal at best..
– His approach to football is too methodical and predictable, almost no one-on-ones, no direct running just constant ball passing round the fringes
– He is totally risk averse with talent, so he only attempts to buy proven talent, reason we couldnt take a risk with a young affordable striker talent, rather we opted to keep all our powder dry and wait for a major buy in the summer. Still on talent and conservative choices, I promise you MLS and Nwaneri would have seen next to no chances we we did not have the injury disaster we had this season.
For me, if he doesnt shape up next season, he needs to leave!
Correct.
MA’s inability to let academy players have a go if he had first team players available was clearly shown last season in the irrelevant last CL group match against PSV. We were already top of the group regardless of result, I can’t find a better opportunity for youth players to have some action, yet the only action they got was warming the bench
This whole argument to me is akin to a carpenter blaming his tools for a bad job.
Owners provided endless patience after two 8th place finishes and no European football for first time in 2 decades. Also we were in 4th with 4 games to play, got rocked by spuds, and choked the remaining games and spuds leaped us to finish 4th. Which was followed by a contract extension for Arteta.
Next millions more in transfer budget that was mismanaged by Arteta and Edu. Desperately needed a striker, winger, and backup for Saka, yet they continued to buy defenders, GK, and LB’s.
Perhaps the owners think it is time to see Arteta “coach?” Perhaps after 5 years he needs to maximize his resources rather than running to the wallet?
Businesses have budgets, and seemingly Arteta wasted his last Summer.
Successful businesses are not in the habit of throwing good money after bad.
Short term loans to see us through this season were available and is a separate debate as to why we didn’t make a move.
But the vast majority of the blame lies with the manager, as is normal. The dire performances lie with the manager, he was the one choosing “versatility” and playing players out of position. Playing Partey at LB is like using a wedge to do a hammer’s job, and then blame the wood you are working with.
Spotlight is on Arteta, in the hot seat now. Let’s see if he can actually coach, or if he is just a system guy, unable to think and be productive outside the box.
Partey at RB, to force Havetz into midfield I meant.
Hooray, a sensible post.
To be honest Durand,
I don’t want to wait and see with the spot light on Arteta. 5 years is more than enough of this man. Time for a change come the summer I hope.🤞😉👍
A few things to consider:
We had to completely overhaul an underperforming side. Many of the players moved on had little resale value. This inevitably had a significant impact on our net spend.
During these last few years we have started to compete for major titles again
Bigger clubs generally have to pay more to get their targets.
Choosing versatile players is simply pragmatic given the costs of top level players and the goal of challenging the best.
Losing four front players is a real problem and would be challenging for any top level team. Dismissing this as “a carpenter blaming his tools” makes no sense.
So was Durand wrong about the deficiencies of MA? I find him absolutely spot on
No sushi, I am right because I based my opinions on facts not emotions, so I can back them up with evidence.
Owners didn’t build the squad, Edu and Arteta did, owners just paid over 750 million to do so. So now the owners are blamed for not throwing good money after bad when Arteta squandered the Summer budget on more DM’s and LB’s?
That “side” we had to overhaul because it was “underperforming” won us our only trophy under Arteta, beating City at that. How has Arteta’s hand-picked team performed since then? Any trophies to match the “underperformers?”
Choosing versatile players over skilled position players has won us squat; bridesmaids is what we are, and even worse those versatile players choked away the title 2 years running; after choking away 4th to spuds several years ago.
Losing 4 attacking players at the same time is catastrophic for any manager. However, Arteta chose to go 4 1/2 years without a backup for Saka, who’s fault is that?
Continued to double down on DM’s and LB’s, so again who’s fault is it not bringing in attackers instead?
Odd how Arteta can find many DM’s like Partey, Rice, Jorghino, Merino, now Aubimendi.
He can also find LB’s and GK to buy every window, but can’t find a backup winger for Saka? He can’t seem to find a single striker in 5 years?
Arteta should focus on coaching the first team, he clearly cannot do both. Wenger could not do it all by himself, what chance does Arteta have?
Arteta never would have survived through the debt of the Emirates and losing his best players. He never could have kept up CL qualifying for 20 straight years, It took him over 500 million just to get back into the top 4.
I stopped mate at Owners didn’t build the squad
Not our of disrespect but simply because you got to get away from.this ideas that you.can own something.and not be accountable
That does not happen in any business
If you slip over in a supermarket and they have not put wet floor sign up and you take them to court
You are not suing the person who mopped that floor
Your suing the company because the say they brought that shop they took on that responsibility to train , follow policies , laws , etc
Really odd that you think you can buy a football club , take all the money but if that company fail ….it’s not their fault ?
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I’m not excusing owners from any accountability, of course they bear some blame.
What would you have them do?
1. Sit down, be quiet, and be an open wallet?
2. Meddle in transfers, scout for the club, and sit in on tactical meetings with Arteta and his staff?
They pay people to manage the club; oversight is lacking and I fault them heavily for that.
Like I said before, successful businesses don’t throw good money after bad.
Perhaps they decided to pause and reevaluate before investing another hundred million or more?
We both feel confident their goal is top 4 and the income that follows, anything else is a bonus.
Yes you sue the supermarket but the person who mopped that floor gets fired for messing up. That’s basic accountability in the real world
I would rather take a longer term view on money spent by the owners and whether or not it was spent wisely. Chelsea reject Havertz cost us £65m and City reject Jesus cost £45m and their combined salaries amount to around £28m per year. Imo we overpaid for Declan Rice by around £15m considering City pulled out of the bidding at £90m. I don’t believe anyone can accuse the owners of under spending over the past 5+ years. One can accuse them of indifference and not real fans of the game but this is a business to them. They allegedly got a loan from Deutsche Bank for £260m then loaned that to AFC at a higher interest rate. They call that business.
As it is.
The fans can and should make a statement to the owners about price increases.
I seem to remember, a while ago, Liverpool increasing their ticket prices up $65 a match.
I seem to remember at the next home game at Anfield, pretty much all the Liverpool supporters got up and left the stadium after 65 minutes.
Now that is a statement!!!
Incidentally, I think the proposed ticket price increase was quickly dropped!!!!
I may be wrong, but most, if not, all of American owners of European clubs have not been great, and it’s because they don’t care or even understand that they are meant to custodians of their respective clubs.
They see dollar signs, and that’s it!
Just look at what the Glazer’s have done to the biggest club in England. They have completely destroyed Man Utd. And the fact they’ve spent so much on transfers to only regress, proves how little they know about running a football club.
Whether it be American owners not understanding the game, or other foreign owners distorting the transfer market and wages – one can only conclude that we should have kept things local.
This is a local game, for local people!
What wrong have the Kroenke’s done since for these last 5 or so seasons?
They have invested highly in the team, they have gotte us back to being taken seriously as a club.
The Arsenal fanbase has not been united since we moved into the Emirates stadium.
One very disappointing season should turn people into sensationalists. Lets be objective and rational.
I think MA needs to change formation to 5 at the back.
—— —— –Raya
—–White – Saliba – Gabriel
Timber – Rice- Partey – Cala
—— Öde – Nwaneri
——— Trossard
Our wingers aren’t that effective on the wing and we don’t have the quantity so better play with positions we do have and that’s fullbacks. Besides as we have trouble scoring, we better focus on defending as well.
Why are people going for The Kroenke’s? Let’s be fair, they have been very good to Arteta and have invested lots of money since he took over.
Arteta and his players should be getting the most criticism this season.
And where are people getting this notion that the Kroenke’s are just happy with Top 4? Can someone please enlighten me on this because I have not seen any evidence for since they fully took over the club in 2018. I know that many have had their talking points on hand for the last 5 years but can we be more logical, reasonable and rational instead of the same old tired negativity just for the sake of it? Rationality is paramount.
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Because if a company fails it’s stop at the owners
Put it this way if we won the title they would get credit correct ?
So it works both ways dude
People are complaining about Havertz price & salary . For what he does/doing these questions are fair. But this is true for Rice too. No doubt he has improved the team & I like him but Arsenal is not Madrid or City to spend 100M on one player. They could have had two decent players for that price & one of them could have been a wide attacking player
Because mate he largely does his job
Last season was his first as a Gunner and he did what we wanted
Years before that he did the same at West Ham so body of work was there for all to see
Havertz on other hand for years proved at Bridge he will never be a natural goal scorer so why buy him ?
To stress , he’s a good player just not good enough to win a title with only him alone up front