In a way I can feel for the long serving Arsenal manager and can understand his feelings after he reacted to the continued questioning of his ability and the growing pressure on him in this season which looked like being the one in which the Gunners finally ended the long wait for another Premier League title.
As reported by the Daily Express, the Frenchman hit back and declared that he was bored of what seems to him like constant and unfair criticism and maybe the very public support from Steve Bruce, the man who will be in the opposite dugout to him in tonight’s FA cup replay, has helped to spark this response.
Wenger said, “Look, I have worked here for 19, 20 years and I’m always sitting here having to justify that I’m good enough to do the job.
“I have no problem to cope with everything but I find that a bit boring in the end. I always have to convince you that I am good enough. I worked for 35 years at the top level.
“I am not on Twitter. I don’t invite anybody to go out to dinner and be nice with them. I work and work and work and work. If it’s not good enough someone will tell me one day. That’s all I can do.
“I do not worry what you say about me or what fans say about me. I try to do my job in a proper way and with full commitment. After that everybody has the right to have an opinion. You do not make a decision if I continue my job or not.
“What I find just boring is always sitting here after 19 years to face, ‘Do you think you are good enough?’ If I am not somebody will tell me. I cannot influence the behaviour of the fans. How can I do that?”
But you can Arsene, and quite easily. Of course we want the EPL trophy back and we know it does not come easy, but when you are the only Premier League club that does not sign a single outfield player in the summer then you are asking for trouble. If you sign a big name player and it does not work out, at least the fans will see that you tried.
But it seems increasingly as though our concerns do not matter to you or the club. How boring and frustrating do you think that feels?
I am bored of Wengers:
-inability to form, manage or motivate a premier football team in order to win the league or in Europe.
– outdated and inflexible football brain
– arrogance at believing he is some how unaccountable to the fans.
“You do not make a decision if I continue my job or not”.
Maybe not directly Arsene, but if suffecient pressure builds then your head WILL roll as a consequence, of that there is no doubt.
Wenger is more boring than i 1st thought……… Even when he’s on the pitch, there’s no visible presence cept when its time to complain to the 4th official
Nobody barks out orders to erring players and Bould isn’t even helping matters whatsoever
They (Wenger and bouldy) should both consider Leaving at the same time
That’s is another thing I dislike about Wenger and bould.Bould shows no concern or even excitement when we do well.
Buh the thing is am so fed up of complaining…
Like a Gunner friend told me..
” I will just continue to watch the matches and go home,I don’t care what happens anymore, I won’t complain or analyse,I will just hope for a positive change one day”…
I couldn’t have put it better.
Bored like hell !
that shows you just how cruel and arrogant wenger really is.
In a professional career such as football management you always need to show you are up for the task because such a job is given to you by chance and not by choice.
You have to work under pressure conditions and you always have to live in the present and not by past glory.
You mr wenger sir have had 12 years of top flight football without any progress whatsoever.Yet you still want to be relieved the pressure.You just want to carry things at your own pace.It would be nice if someone decided to teach you a hard lesson about your speciality in failure
This ties in with what a wrote yesterday in an other post. Wenger will not leave as a consequence of bad results. Even if we finish 6th he will stay. He has all the excuses ready for our poor performances and never is he one of the reasons we do poorly.
The only thing that will make this man leave is the fans protesting in large numbers. His ego can not handle being questioned. Quotes like ““I have no problem to cope with everything but I find that a bit boring in the end. I always have to convince you that I am good enough. I worked for 35 years at the top level.” He thinks he should be beyond reproach because he has worked for 35 years in football. He thinks top 4 without a PL title in ages, not even close in fact, still means he has proven he is good enough.
Have you ever heard him say we lost because I failed to motivate the squad? or because I had the wrong tactical plan? Or because I made the wrong substitution or Cazorla is injured for such a long time because I kept him in the game playing with ligament damage same for Ox? or I made a big mistake playing Sanchez whilst I knew he had an overloaded schedule? The guy will never ever take responsibility for his failings and as a result neither does his team. People who don’t own there mistakes are much less likely to learn from them and become better as result of their mistakes.
So, fans and media pointing out his failings makes him very angry. 50.000 fans after the season is over marching on Emirates demanding his resignation will be the closest he will get to leaving. Not any bad results, they are because of injury, the ref, bully opponents, no winter break, naive players, bad luck etc etc.
This mass protest will never happen. The majority of the Arsenal fans deep down inside have a huge inferiority complex and are as risk averse as Kroenke and Wenger. They don’t think we can do better than Wenger, they are afraid what life would be without him and they rather take 4th with little to no chance of 1st, than to take the chance to lose 4th with an unknown chance to take 1st.
How else can you explain that a manager who has won nothing of note for ages, despite in recent history having a decent financial budget he refuses to allocate, gets such an easy ride from fans. In other clubs fans have driven managers out, right or wrong, if the fans unite the management have to listen sooner or later.
Can anyone imagine the Man U fans excepting 10 years of no major titles from the same manger? Show me a big club with ambitions and I will show you a club who’s fans would not accept one manager to stay in charge for such a long time with out ever being close to winning the national title.
@Jansen very well said. Fully agreed
Couldn’t put it any better Jansen!
I mean if we cant see exactly what Wenger is saying in between the lines then we cannot be helped really.
Its more like this – when he says …’What I find just boring is always sitting here after 19 years to face, ‘Do you think you are good enough?’ If I am not somebody will tell me’ …isn’t that what we are doing? telling him he’s not doing enough? or who is this somebody that will make him listen? Then it dawns on us – Wenger cares zero what the fans think feel or say.They are a bunch of nobodies to him.
Because he knows ‘You do not make a decision if I continue my job or not.’
There!!! I hope the AKBs see this one as it is.
Like you Jansen, am now ready for something fresh- a fresh battle – even if that battle is relegation – but am sick and nauseated with the same old sour fourth place crap.
But look the fact is this – Wenger and the board are no longer interested in titles and cups – they are just happy to compete. Wenger does enough to only compete, not win – because that is how to keep fans believing you can win it, hence fans spend more money on the club while they spend less and less.
I mean Wenger could have gone all out and signed Aubamayeng this January – but no. Now we are struggling for? yes – Goals!
But to Wenger, lets fight till the end is enough for him. In the summer he goes to sleep, wakes up 2 hours to the deadline and buys someone who keeps them competitive – then they will do just enough to keep the fans believing it could be the year – then reality kicks in again – and again – and again- and again….
Wenger wont resign, and he wont get fired. I don’t trust the fans at the emirates to raise enough heat to force his exit or at least improve his commitment – after all the AKBs are so many.
So the only thing left is to sit back, take it all in and hope tomorrow is the day he says goodbye! Everyday hoping its he’s last as our manager!
Incredible that there are still Arsene minions on this board that possess the galactic stupidity to thumb down this post. Says it all about why Arsenal relishes its FA Cup glory and is a non entity as a so called BIG football club.
Even the lads on ESPN FC yesterday were incredulous about Wenger and his stupid comments, implying that the fans are entitled to question his team’s lack of recent results and fragile collective disposition.
Well said Jansen
Jansen, allot/some of what you said is fair criticism. The third paragraph down though, I have never seen any top managers come out and own up to all of that. Players need to have total faith in the boss so admitting to stuff like that is just counter productive, also they are trying to do a job, and hold onto it, so throwing doubt upon themselves in the way you highlight is totally unheard of.
The inferiority complex, come on now, sure for almost all of the time the majority has been behind Wenger. The entire AFC fanbase can’t be categorized with inferior mindedness. Wenger has come close to building top teams so it was fine margins, yet you say no it’s that they all have an inferiority complex. Also there were valid arguments to not a level playing field whether you chose to agree or not is beside the point.
“What I find just boring is always sitting here after 19 years to face, ‘Do you think you are good enough?’ If I am not somebody will tell me. I cannot influence the behaviour of the fans. How can I do that?”
So it is exactly like that. Board is happy with what Wenger brings in. Any trophy is a bonus.
exactly lets all ley down and die because the board is happy with the income and don’t much care for big titles because of the financial cost, and why should they care when the likes of you Budd sport them unconditionally,
Budd i respect you as a fan but you have to start making some noise for change unless your happy 4th too???
I don’t even know how can I politely respond to your post. Why do you assume I am not for a change? Why do you assume I am happy with 4th? Because I am not jumping the Wenger out wagon? I have explained for the last 4 years here : I don’t care who our manager will be as long as Kroenke and Gazidis will be in charge. It will be the same struggle for profit and same let downs every season. It really surprises me that you don’t see this. I’ll tell you a little secret, even if I hoped we will win the title this season after the first game of the season I realized that we will repeat the cycle. True, I haven’t expected Leicester to be there but to be fair none expected that. Does it add some salt to the wound? A bit, it does not matter for me who’s going to win it (unless is the Spuds, of course) if Arsenal don’t do it. Whether Leicester, West Ham, City, Chelsea, whatever. Same stuff. Yes, mathematically we are there but football is not an exact science. It takes more than tactics and perparation to win a tough league as EPL.
So, noise for change? Where? Here on justarsenal? You must be kidding. I am not going to waste my time preaching in front of the wall when I make noise every game I watch. For me that’s enough, I am not going to live my life based on Arsenal results. At least not based on the last ones, that is.
glad to hear we share SOME thoughts
you’ve completely lost ur grip on reality!
Please elaborate. I am all ears. But please talk on the subject so that I can learn something from a visionary like you.
Soopa, as ever it is always very rich coming from you?. Ill tell ya’s what I’m bored of will I, I’m board of Soopa’s endless one liners ..aren’t even funny.
Here in a nutshell is why my support for AW has finally finished. His reply shows arrogance and a lack of understanding for the frustration that seeing Arsenal capitulate yet again has caused many fans. His answers now tend to show that he only serves his masters on the board. What joy Leicester City fans must feel at the moment. Not because they have acheived the same old thing as they have done for 20 years, but because they are truly outperforming everyone’s expectations. That must feel thrilling, something as an Arsenal fan we glimps in spits and spats through a part of a season. Only to end up pretty much where we started at 10 years ago. Perhaps AW should realise we would like him to try a little harder rather than justify his continued avarage record for a club who is one of the richest in the World and has been for all the time he has been there.
Who cares??? What happens at Arsenal is not and will never be my problem.Let him stay for eternity,its none of my business..
I love and support Arsenal, administration is boring to me..
I just want to enjoy Arsenal’s football….
i can relate a bit to AW like me once your over your 50s you start thinking differently like the world owes you something and you think know it all example likes of Jose Mourinho,
and all do i’m not there yet but from 60s+ your start getting low on testosterone ( something im not looking forward to ) and once that happens no fight left in you and looking for peace and quietness in your life likes of AW
and as we all know football is a full on testosterone sport, we need guidance from experience but need the younger to fight the fight otherwise why not let players like Diego Maradona, Zinedine Zidane and the likes to continue to play,
And who are the best managers on the planet at present its your Pep Guardiola’s, Luis Enriques, and yes Mauricio Pochettino and not forgetting Diego Simeone
Guus Hiddink has never Lost a game with the same inherited squad who were on a consistent Losing streak under moanino….. Perhaps he knows how to set up a game and motivate players
Yet, chelski are still considering replacing him with Conte
Tells the whole story !..
*Guus hiddink has never lost an EPL game so far this season*
If you’ve ever paid attention to Hiddink. You would know that he does not like managing full time at club level. Yet, he is willing to come in as a stop gap manager now and then.
And they’re the same players who just won the League last season. Under Mourinho…
And They are the same player’s who performed soooo badly for Mourinho, this season!
Which goes to show that the mood in the team is more important than anything else!
It seems as if Ego’s are the biggest issues that causes the biggest problems in a teams performances!
Be it the Manager or the players or even both,
when egos clash, it causes bad performances all round,
As concentration and commitment goes out of the window!
For me, An average player with high Stamina levels, who gives 100% commitment and concentration for the team,
Is far better than an expensive brand with an ego, who only plays,when it suits him.
Having the right Mentality is the main key to winning games, if that wasn’t the case then there would be no such thing as Giant killing!
It’s a different skill set to stop a ship from sinking vs sailing it to its destination
Even a child would eventually get bored going round and round in circle but not our Arsene.
But not when he’s on a jolly ride like a rollercoaster and 8miL is placed at a particular point on the circumference to pick-up in each revolution!
At this point we all agree that Wenger must go but it baffles me after we win 2games we start singing WENGER KNOWS best then after we win the FA and the top 4 trophy,Wenger is treated lyk a god,dare come here at that period and say Wenger out and you will be swallowed alive!
Sorry dude. You don’t represent every AFC fan/supporter…
I for 1 will support him till the end, as I do the team. At the moment, they are one to me…
I also feel the journalist are bang out of order for disrespecting him in the manner in which they did/do…They purposely put him in a defensive position, so he defended his integrity. Big ups to AW. Problem is, that plays right in to the hands of sensationalist journalism and the gullible fans who eat it all up and spout it back out as feigned anger…
@ Bud and NY_Gunner…totally with you on the sentiments expressed.
Judging from Budd’s picture, he is Arsene’s fan,not an Arsenal Fan..
How you never question Wenger is so amazing to me.,I can never understand!
I do not intend to argue or get in a war of words with you but I don’t know how you just don’t see any wrong in Wenger’s activities @ Arsenal
You must be new here. Before every game I come with my ideas about how the team should look like which is far, far how Wenger plays. As a little example, I said is not an Ozil game and that we should play 3-5-2. Got only reds for that and I don’t care but it shows totally the opposite. I questioned all his tactical decisions before and after the game and my favorite quote is ” what do I know, Wenger spends time with the boys so definitely he knows them better”. I have the literature to prove it on this site. What do you have to prove the affirmation you made about me? Or is the fact that you don’t see me jumping up and down yelling Wenger out? Unlike you, decency is not something I lack, I can be objective and yes, when he does it right I am also saying it. Or is it only the bad things you want to hear me speaking about Wenger.
PS: my avatar is my uncle. He looks exactly like Wenger and I found it funny at the time. But now that I see people get annoyed by it I am going to stick with it. It gives me great pleasure to annoy people judging a person by the look of their avatar.
trying to play Genius to suit ur ego!
And doing a damn fine job at it. Unlike you.
Budd offers discussion, you , Soopa…well from your, I have yet to read a single insight or anything approximating a discussion point.
I frankly think a 2 man shield is overkill for Hull. They will probably set up as 541 at best. Min. kms run. We need to set up as 4141 or 4132. We only El neny or Flamini to guard the back 4.
Play in any config – Campbell, Theo, Giroud, Iwobi, Welbeck – in an attacking 5. Job done.
Steve B has invited us to take it. You think he wants to win this tie? He is damn thankful for the loan players we have given him! We just need to do the job and make it look professional.
Budd you need to admit it once for all your uncle does not look like Wenger he is actually WENGER, that would explain your unconditional support to the DELUDED one….nothing wrong with that Mate family matters.
Wish it was true, imagine the information I could give you guys here.
So MIA GUNNER FAN…your only purpose on this site is to seek out and attack anyone who is remotely positive about the Gunners? and offer nothing constructive? or perhaps to be more pointed…you seek out anyone who is remotely positive towards Arsene Wenger and seek to attach all historical failures upon him and that fans support of him.
You’re a fan of the Gunners? I think not….
@TJ……..yea “budd offers discussion”……..i need not be told…u bunch are one and the same thing…… So why should ur ideas / opinions be non rhythmic? L()L
why should our ideas/ opinions be non rhythmic?…well because they are individual ideas born from different contexts’…one would assume they would be irregular or non-conforming. i have never met Budd nor have i met anyone of you. How I became a Gooner is different from how you did…the common feeling and love is for our Gunners. That’s the only thing which binds us.
non rhythmic doesn’t equate to it being incongruent when it boils down to the ethos of the AFC.
if Tottenham win nothing, we finish above them in the league and wenger leaves AFC it will turn out to be a great season.
Oh and if Gazidis buggers off and kroenke sells to ushmanov that will make it a fantastic season
I just feel relieved from anger when i say WENGER OUT…so guys allow me to say it again WENGER OUT!
Am sorry if I have offended you bro..am not expecting you to shout Wenger out every time as most of us normally do. I just jokingly admired your loyalty towards Wenger and standing your ground when majority come against you..
You and Davidnz brings something different most times..its nice to have you here
And about the 3-5-2 formation, I don’t think that will work,this Arsenal we are talking about.
We have 4 defenders with a DMF despite that, we lacked compactness and order,talkless of 3-5-2…
Wenger never changes formation unless he wants to accomodate Wilshere…
I believe a 4-1-3-2 formation will make us very effective, during this mini goal drought we have.Play Giroud and Welbeck.
Buh he is just too rigid!
Wenger played 3-5-2 when he came at Arsenal. Is not something new for him. Looks like he forgot about that as well.
Not the same personnel. The backs he had then, had played for many years together. You could easily configure a 3-5-2 with them. This back line is very raw in terms of experience together…you don’t play that system. Simple enough is 4141 or 4132. Job will be done…no problem. Doesn’t need 2 man shield. Go get goals boys and fill your boots 🙂
Sad sad times if Arsene of all people can come out and respond to us fans like that.
That he even has the audacity to label our groaning boring? Fans are supposed to be the most respected in a sport setting, especially that of football – not the players, not the manager, the fans!!
Have you ever fathomed that in a stadium, when two teams are playing, fans are the only ones who get nothing other than glory…
Players – wages, fame, medals etc
Managers – same as above
Club owners/shareholders – more revenue/profit
Club employees – wages, salaries, bonuses etc
reporters – Stories to write
Fans are the only ones who part with their resources to be in a stadium, part with energy singing their lungs out, buy merchandise, etc etc.
And Wenger disrespects us like this??
I have to say am speechless!
i think we can forgive him for once after all he dose believe his giving his life to Arsenal
and yes he gives it all even his marriage broke down because of his loyalty to his club
but he dose get paid handsomely so he wont be short on potential partner in the future
he was talking about the media and pundits and so called experts….why don’t youread the reference material before you make comments
trying to play Genius to suit ur ego!
You said that above. Heard it the first time. Man, you really get weaker at trolling every day.
@admin, please don’t ban him, he is only a minor nuisance. Is like playing chess with a pigeon. Always interesting to see the reactions, a really good study case.
Wow… You play Chess with pigeons? ?
The Original Dr Dolittle.. talks and plays chess with the animal’s!
Do you share your BUDD ‘none the’ WEISER with them?
It must be a hell of a job… Cleaning all that drunken pigeon ? , off of your chessboard?
WENGER is the poster boy of the public servant he does just the necessary to keep the job, nothing more nothing less, the only difference is that by far he is better paid.
@MIA GUNNER FAN…….AW is an emplyee of a public company not a govt entity. Go back to school and learn the difference.
Hahaha…….u think you represent “the still voice” to the admin on ere?…….. Perhaps when u reach the 21st century, u’d understand what we mean by “systematic errors”
and u replying twice to the same comment only suggest how shallow u could be…
By the way, who’s the troll? L()L
Systematic errors in experimental observations usually come from the measuring instruments. They may occur because:
there is something wrong with the instrument or its data handling system, or
because the instrument is wrongly used by the experimenter.
so what measuring instruments are you talking about here Soop
talk to me about football, about arsenal, about what maybe could have been done better…by the way …have you ever seen or kicked a football?
Wenger should use the 4312 formation for our remaining matches. 3 Central midfielders, Coq, Ramsey and Elneny. Ozil ahead of the 3 and playing just behind 2 pacey Strikers in Sanchez and Welbeck/Walcott. Our fullbacks to provide the Width. Campbell to play alongside Sanchez at times. Our problems in recent times have been in central midfield and Sanchez loss of form. Sanchez should be in the opposition box most times and not playing on the left Wing trying to dribble and cut to his right.
I think Westham is doing well at the moment. Would love Bilic to succeed Wenger at the end of the season.
We have the players to succeed. Problem is the manager’s tactics, nativity and arrogance. Giroud as super sub for now. Win the remaining games and see what happens at the end of the season.
AW bored by fans..?we are more bored by ua tactics and could have been better if u left some seasons ago b4 RVP.!