Congrats to Saka and AMN – Which other Arsenal graduates played for England?

With the Transfer Window closing and the Gunnersaurus scandal, it might have gone unnoticed what a proud week this could be for our academy. Bukayo Saka on Thursday could join Maitland-Niles (who got his first cap last month) in being the latest graduate from our youth team to represent England at senior level.
I’m going to cover my lifetime, so if they were developed at Arsenal and played for us in the Premier League and then played for the Three Lions, they make my list.
So I have nothing against the likes of David Rocastle, I just needed a time frame to work on, plus it became more unlikely in the Prem era for teams to make their own stars.

If your older though, feel free to add any names in the comments.

Ashley Cole 107
Only 5 men have played for England more than Ashley Cole. His understanding on our left-hand side with Pires and Henry was seen as vital to the most successful period in our history, while at Chelsea he became even better defensively.

The manner of how he left his boyhood club and his personal life mean that maybe the fullback didn’t always get the credit he deserved. In my opinion he was the only talent in his country’s ‘Golden Generation’ who was consistently World Class. Check out his displays against Ronaldo in 2004 and 2006.

Tony Adams 66 Caps
While England Managers refused to build their team around one of Britain’s most famous back 5’s, they did include its main orchestrator. In the 90’s there was a heavy drinking culture at both our captain’s club and when on International duty. In subsequent autobiographies he has admitted he would deal with the pressure of World Cups and European Championships by drinking.

Arsene Wenger introduced training and dietary methods which extended the centrebacks career by a few extra years, making him the only English player to play in a tournament in 3 separate decades.
Had the armband for the last ever match at the old Wembley.

Martin Keown 43 Caps
Perhaps the only mistake George Graham ever made in terms of our defence was selling Keown in 1986 only to rehire him years later. During that time he had played at Euro 9,2 yet seemed to divide opinion.

Terry Venables never selected him, Glen Hoddle took him to a World Cup but never played him, Kevin Keegan was the only man to try and recreate his club partnership with Tony Adams.
Keown is another player to thank Arsene Wenger for introducing training and dietary methods which extended and maximised his career, going to a World Cup at the age of 36.

Jack Wilshire 34 Caps
It’s hard for me to write this in the week he has been released by West Ham (and I am planning an article about Super Jack!) because I really thought he was the next big thing for our country and club. So did the likes of Xavi and Iniesta after he stole the show against Barcelona. Steven Gerrard predicted he would captain the Three Lions.

He played for the club he loved and for his nation so his dreams came true, but mentally it must be hard to deal with the fact that your mind is willing… but the body is not.
His ability was never in question. Educated by Arsene Wenger, he was taught how to play the game the right way and had the technicality that most English players didn’t.

His ankles just kept taking a battering. He maintains he can still play at the Highest Level and that West Ham simply have chosen to not select him, nothing to do with his fitness, so It would be wrong to say he won’t add to his caps as yet. Yet he needs to go to a League less physically demanding and reinvent himself.

Paul Merson 21 Caps
If you ever listen to a Graham Taylor or Harry Redknapp, they treat Merson like a Paul Gascoigne, desperate to help the joker off the pitch because they know he was capable of something special on it. The now pundit has been very honest about his battle with addictions which maybe robbed him of his powers at his very best. I would have loved him to have worked with Mr Wenger longer than he did.

Ray Parlour 10 Caps
Called the ‘Romford Pele’ as an affectionate term, but it’s also irony from Gooners that a player trusted to play every week for ‘The Arsenal’ would struggle to get picked for England. It took 7 years after his Gunners debut to get a cap at which point he had lifted the Cup Winners Cup, 2 FA Cups, The League Cup and Premiership. One of our greatest to never feature at a major international showpiece.

Kieran Gibbs 10 Caps
This might surprise some as some Gooners might view Gibbs as the face of the Arsenal in Mr Wenger’s last few years. Gibbs was a youngster given many opportunities, but became stagnant by staying around for too many years. What boyhood fan wouldn’t want to be paid to play for the club they love even as a squad player, compared to playing every week but at West Brom? His issue was his ability to stay fit, so it was felt it best for all parties for a fresh chance. I’m not sure he’s re-found his confidence at the Hawthorns.

David Bentley 7 Caps
At one-point Spurs paid 17 million for this player and due to his set piece ability, he was compared to being the ‘next Beckham’. Yet I always maintained there was a reason Mr Wenger washed his hands of him. Think how many opportunities the manager gave to youth players, some would argue too many. So why would he give up on such an obvious talent? Having worked with the very best he quickly would know a players heart, desire, how much they want to succeed. Bentley retired at the age of 30 claiming to have lost passion for the sport.

So as you can see in the Prem era, it’s hard with all the money around and foreign players to, as a youngster, not just play for the first team but also get noticed by England.

So congratulation to Maitland-Niles and hopefully Saka for representing Arsenal with England. Credit to our Academy.

If you want to discuss pre- the Prem era, maybe put together an 11 in the comments.

Be Kind In Comments…

Dan

29 Comments

  1. Dan kit says:

    As much as I love watching our boys play I can’t figure out how we are letting these internationals go ahead in the middle of a rise in cases throughout Europe To play meaningful games .
    I understood the need to get the country going again and was all for the league to continue but I would have thought the powers that be had more sense than this ,we have by the looks of it already lost Tierney For the Man City game how many more cases will arise in the next 2 weeks putting in doubt club football.
    Should have been a small step at a time not headfirst into the fire .
    I suppose money will always talk when it comes to football just hope they done do more harm than good .

    1. ozziegunner says:

      Tierney has tested negative in three successive tests; doesn’t that mean he will be OK to play.
      By the way, if Arsenal has any spare cash they should go in for Max Aarons from Championship Norwich, who play RB or LB.

      1. Gogo says:

        He has not tested psutive but was in close contact to a covid positive person. Get ur facts correct pls.

        1. Dan kit says:

          Ok GOGO
          I don’t believe anyone said he had tested positive!

  2. Phenom says:

    They are now Dan.
    More cases will be recorded when they return from international duty. I can umderstand why KT is in isolation when his tests appear negative. I think football will halted again amid rise in cases. Let’s wait and see.

    1. Sue says:

      We’ve had to close our academy as a precaution, due to a positive test…

      1. ken1945 says:

        Sue, have you been notified about the offer from the club regarding our match against City next week?

        Sounds like a really good idea for the club to make some money, trying to get my wife to treat me as a birthday present!!

        1. Dan says:

          What’s this Ken ?

          1. ken1945 says:

            Dan, the club is offering two corporate packages at The Emirates to watch the City game.
            The packages are priced at £49 and £160 (if I remember correctly) and includes food, drink, photo opportunities and watching the game on two big screens inside the Emirates – sounds very interesting and all under the strictest corona virus rules.

            I think, again not certain, that the offer is open to those with red, gold and platinum members, with a maximum of six per party.

          2. Admin Pat says:

            And will gunnersaurus be entertaining them???

        2. Sue says:

          Yes i saw about it on my account, Ken.. it is an excellent idea… got it all covered – food, drink, photo opportunities etc!! I wonder if they’ll do it for every game?

  3. ken1945 says:

    Agree Dan, it seems insane to be asking players to travel around during a pandemic – utterly pointless.

    You are correct though, money is the reason for this and I wish there was a way we could claim for the loss of Tierney from the authorities.

    There is still so much corruption within the governing bodies, with the FIFA president, Gianni Infantino, being accused alleged misconduct over TV rights while he worked for UEFA.

    The weird thing is, this news has hardly been taken up by the media across the UK, they seem to have no interest in following this story up.

    As for Saka etc if we, or any other club lose players to this pandemic, we should expect our media to, at least, start making some noises about the futility of putting players at risk , just for the sake of money – there cannot be any other reason at this moment in time.

    1. Trudeau says:

      It is stunning that there has been virtually no dissenting views about the wisdom of staging an international break in the midst of a global pandemic. The decision is bonkers.

      It feels a bit shallow to say but having regular football to distract from all the crap going on has been a great tonic for my mental wellbeing. I’ll be gutted if the international break helps bring it to a hasty close. How many reruns of Tiger King can one man watch?

      1. Sue says:

        I’d say watching Tiger King was more harmful than no football 🤣🤣 (only messing with you!)

        1. Trudeau says:

          Good point. Well made.

      2. SueP says:

        Trudeau
        Your post got to me – particularly the second paragraph
        In a sea of gloom the return of football for those who love the game has been the tonic you refer to …gin included…it’s not shallow to yearn for happier and healthier times

        1. ozziegunner says:

          👍 👍 👍

  4. Glorious says:

    I am expecting another Ozil article very soon. He didn’t make the list.

    Goalkeepers: Bernd Leno, Runar Runarsson, Matt Macey, James Hillson, Dejan Iliev

    Defenders: Hector Bellerin, Gabriel, Rob Holding, Cedric Soares, Shkodran Mustafi, Calum Chambers, Pablo Mari, David Luiz, Sead Kolasinac, Kieran Tierney

    Midfielders: Dani Ceballos, Willian, Ainsley Maitland-Niles, Thomas Partey, Mohamed Elneny, Granit Xhaka

    Forwards: Alexandre Lacazette, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Nicolas Pepe

    1. Dan says:

      Could he not have swaped him for a keeper ? Lol

      1. Dan kit says:

        Lol I thought that Dan isnt 2 keepers enough .
        Anyway I’m. More interested In the predictions game ,I know I’must have caught you up abit after last week .
        Or do we have to wait till next weekend for the last results ,and yes I’m taking this very serious 😂

        1. Dan says:

          Ill see.If admin let’s me post results tomoz

          1. Admin Pat says:

            Dan, of course!
            You have special privileges lol

            And I want to see my position too!

          2. Dan says:

            I’m worried about interest staying
            Me and family played last year and were getting high scores but this season weird scores with 0 fans
            Like last week 1-6 , 7-2 , etc

          3. Sue says:

            You’ve got no worries there, Dan!

    2. ozziegunner says:

      Can anyone explain why Arsenal requires 5 keepers; surely 3 would suffice?

  5. Abu says:

    It is said that it doesn’t matter if you are young “so long as you are good enough then you are old enough”
    Saka and AMN can only get better so long as they keep their heads down and continue working hard.
    Both lads have a lot of improvement to do to state a claim in the competitive and highly talented England squad. It’s a good start to earn their first senior Caps. I hope they will keep on improving.
    Saka just needs to add a bit of physicality to his game which will come with time.
    AMN needs to inject a little bit of pace to his game when he is on the ball.

  6. Tom says:

    Yeh we are definitely not ready for this. Even though parts of european are better then we are. We cant risk transmission.

    Its 100 years go reliving today. How old memories disappear and reappear

  7. Shakir says:

    Saka is going to be a superb player.
    AMN has quality and more importantly pace but his decision making lets him down and he needs to work on reading the game well if he is to have a succesful career

  8. Babasola says:

    Didn’t Walcott Play For The Senior England Team ?

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