Arsenal fans back Declan Rice after disgusting tweet
This is going to be somewhat of a touchy subject but after the last few days, I personally feel like this needs to be addressed in some shape or form but I also don’t want to give the troll behind a disgusting “X tweet” any more limelight as they’re probably making a profit off the tweet itself but I think as an Arsenal fan, over the past few days we’ve got to see the best and worst side of Arsenal fans and football X (twitter).
A few days ago, a faceless troll account put out a disgusting tweet about Declan Rice’s long term partner that has sparked anger and disgust but also has showed how vile social media can be and has become in some instances.
If you don’t have X (twitter), lucky you, but if you do, you might have seen this tweet making the rounds, body shaming Arsenal’s Declan Rice’s girlfriend and it’s had quite some response. We live in a day and age where social media is a huge part of our lives and is people’s main source for football news and news in general and although sometimes it’s a good way to hear things and stay up to date, it’s also got a disgusting side to it with faceless accounts who think they can say what they want, when they want.
I personally have had my fair share of abuse because I’m a female and I love football and there’s still a lot of people stuck in the past who don’t think women should be involved in football or at the least be allowed to have an opinion on it. It’s a dangerous place out there and when stuff like this comes up, it really shows how far some have come but also how much further we need to go.
Arsenal fans rushed to the defence of Rice’s girlfriend and rightly so and I’m sure footballers are used to getting a lot of stick in the media and on social media and unfortunately it’s become apart of the game, but to throw someone’s loved ones under a bus for no reason confuses me and I don’t get how some people can be this vile and backwards and I can only assume that his girlfriend, although probably having tough skin, would have been hurt by this type of behaviour.
I was proud by the amount of Arsenal fans that quickly came to back him up and support his girlfriend after what was just a completely uncalled for tweet and it shows how we as a fan base are with our players, there’s nothing more disgusting then abusing someone for absolutely no reason and hopefully the troll behind the account can get some karma for such vile behaviour.
What’s your thoughts Gooners?
Daisy Mae
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Yes, very sad. Not acceptable, but sadly one of the downsides of social media where Cowards can hide in annonimty while expressing their awful views. Well done to all those who spoke out in defence of Declan and his girlfriend.
I would never have known of this if I’d not read about it here on JA. So now I’m aware of Declan Rice’s partner’s personal issues.
This is bizarre and pathetic to me. “It’s a dangerous place out there and when stuff like this comes up”? Dangerous? It’s like adults are now treated like children with zero resilience to nasty words from strangers. I’m sick of it, frankly.
“If you don’t have X (twitter), lucky you” – how does that have anything to do with luck? You choose to be on it, knowing it’s not all sunshine and rainbows and positivity.
DAVI, while I do and massively too, accept your well made point, it needs to be acknowledged, even by intelligent folk, that we ARE our brothers and sisters keepers – as that is what I HAVE SPENT MY WHOLE ADULT LIFE BELIEVING- and that we ALL have a duty to try our best to stand up for the many folk who through no fault of their own are not so bright as others are.
Humans, that means all of us, you and I included, are fallible and are by nature imperfect. That very imperfection is indeed what makes us human, and makes us belong to our own fellow humans and makes us so valuable.
I have never met a perfect human, as none exist and I would not even wish to, even if in some fantasy scenario one DID EXIST.
However , I have been extremely fortunate to meet a great many delightful, intelligent, compassionate, caring but still faulty human beings.
And I would not wish it any other way , my friend!
Completely agree, Jon.
The problem for me is that the current culture implies you have a right to use public platforms like x, and *publish* things about yourself without having to receive any negative responses. It also indicates that if someone intentionally insults you or someone you care about, as appears to be the case here, you have to take it seriously, you are a “victim”. It promotes, frankly, weakness as being normal when imo we’d be far better served promoting the idea that words on a screen can’t hurt you (words in general, actually) – surely that is a more empowering message that would actually help people get through life.
And I don’t intend to imply I’m immune from any kind of mental strife caused by the things people say (I’m certainly not perfect), I’m just saying that should really be the goal, rather than accepting victim status every time something upsets you.
TYes DAVI I do much agree with your theme and I dont use social media except JA (and FB but only for updates and singing appointments and such like).
I never reveal any personal status except on JA which is broadly well policed by Ad PAT and is therefore safe from those who seek to harm us.
But again, I stress the point that all humans vary a great deal in inate self protecting intelligence.
Some folk feel the need to put their life on line. Like you, I see that as being foolish and naive , given what we surely ALL ought to know about the ghastly damaged folk who lurk in the shadows, keen to vent their own low esteemed spite on ordinary, but often naive folk.
Like the Rices appear to be.
I fervently hope they learn a lesson from this unfortunate episode and decide to protect themselves by keeping personal business to themselves and trusted family and close friends only.
Finally I find older age and maturity, which goes alongside better judgement , to be agreat self protector.
But younger folks are not to be blamed for being young!
I agree, Davi. I’m sure those words wouldn’t have been pleasant for Declan or his girlfriend to read but I seriously doubt it has made the slightest bit of difference to their very fortunate lifestyle and if it has then more fool them.
Bullying isn’t nice, but we cannot live in a world where people are permanently silenced for the slightest indiscretion. This wasn’t a call for violence, it was just an obnoxious and unnecessary statement by someone looking for attention, and they got it.
Well done Daisy for bringing this up.
The abuse against Declan Rice is unacceptable just like it was against Granit Xhaka a few years ago regardless of anyone’s view as a footballer.
Fortunately, I do not have twitter and I am not sure if I am thick skinned enough to handle the vile abuse dished out.
The very sad truth is, there are people who can hide behind a key board anywhere and make vile and disgusting comments about others.
These sick souls needs help themselves and must not be given a platform.
Can’t add more than the above, other than Declan Rice is clearly a happy man and obviously loves his partner
Having seen enough pouty lipped wags taking the inevitable selfieswith too much makeup and surgically enhanced boobs, it’s quite refreshing to see a ‘normal’ woman.
Refreshing is an understatement SueP
Agree Sue, she isnot ugly at all, in fact, quite the opposite. And anyone who judges someones “uglyness” has got real problems and should stay on their own for the rest of their lives. They don’t deserve anyone and probably are a very sad person anyway.
Plus, she probably has an inner beauty that has nothing to do with looks. Unlike the troll.
I never saw the tweet nor knew there was anything like challenge for Declan’s partner.
But the unfortunate fellow will remain unfortunate in his life
Wishing Dec and his wife happy and long life together.
The online abuse issue is wider and bigger than how it looks on the surface.
I don’t understand why a person must have all social medias accounts and post all details of their life. How much time do they have to scroll and post all the time?
I don’t use and social media’s except reddit and Facebook which they coerced me into opening in order to use the Quest 2. And it has remained just that, a logging account.
I think after all these years the nature of social media is obvious to all of us. When we decide to enter into it we must know that the famous you are the more scum you attract to attack you.
It’s our duty to take precautions ourselves just like how we take precautions against other kind of dangers. We cannot just sit and expect bad people will one day wake up good.
What works for me is that I don’t reveal my identity online because I have no need for attention and whatever activity I do online it ends the moment I close the phone or computer. Since my online activity is separate to my real life there is nothing anyone will say that will get to me.
Except maybe speaking ill of Arsene Wenger.
This is a well balanced response, HH – far better with than mine. It seems like common sense, and I really wish it was!
I wish so too and hope we will get there slowly. Perhaps because it’s a new threat compared to others which we have for centuries, people will adjust as time goes by.
I just wish it won’t take a bigger tragedy for the common sense you have mentioned to kick in.
Well said HH.
RESPECT!!
Thank you Jon. I really appreciate that!
You are very welcome my friend! I believe you would then agree with me that a new law against anyone without any proper checks on them at all, INREALITY, using social media, would greatly declaw the evils of social media.
That all political parties seem determined to do NOTHING to halt this evil, makes it quite impossible for me and many others too, to even consider voting for them.
Evil flourishes while “cowardly keep your heads down and say nothing” types duck their sacred duty to society.
Sad sad world we do live in today! Jealousy is a horrible decease to be inflicted with. These social media platforms should be monitered or banned from publicising their rubbish!
Simple!!!!! Dont use X or Facebook. You are all party to it if you do. And it has just been explose more, by writing about it on here!!!!
Exploded.
So very saddened to hear this , as I have never used X(Twitter) and never will. The TWIT part of that name seems the most appropriate for users of it IMO.
This writer is of course to be applauded for calling out this unacceptable hideous abuse.
One of the reasons I AM RESOLVED TO SPOIL MY GENERAL ELECTION BALLET PAPER, come the election , is that NO political party has the will or any real intention to stand up for ordinary , non powerful or non rich people. The Post Office scandal, the blood contamination scandal, lack of intention to stop trolls harming decent people and VERY MUCH MORE BESIDES, makes BOTH main parties and the so called Lib Dems ( who are neither Liberal nor Democratic) being fit to govern us.
A modern day Guy Fawkes WOULD GET MY VOTE!
No wonder ordinary decent Brits feel completely disenfranchised! SIGH!
PS: I much agree with HH who argues against intelligent folk having such accounts in the first place.
Perhaps the Rices will now close their accounts, having been badly wounded. My heart goes out to them both.
This is a tricky subject. Is what the presumably male tweeted mean spirited and unnecessary? Totally. Should that person have their account permanently banned for it? Absolutely not!
The worst they did was express and obnoxious opinion and have effectively been cancelled for it. What sort of world is that to live in? What happened to free speech, where as long as you weren’t calling for violence against someone you could say what you wanted.
If we ban people from expressing opinions like this, then how are we ever meant to know who the poisonous people are? We cannot allow ourselves to call for censorship of everything we find a little bit nasty.
Essentially, this comes down to someone said something mean about a multi-millionaire’s life partner and internet warriors has risen to his aide and got that person banned from the platform for it.
I’m Declan Rice can’t have enjoyed reading that but has it effected his life in any way? I doubt it, and nor should it. People need to get a grip and stop getting offended on other people’s behalf.
I wouldn’t be so sure that a man was responsible
Women are just as capable of being bitchy
You are right there, Sue. These comments are no different to the sorts of things women say about each other all the time, sometimes about people in their immediate friend group.
Yeah, especially out of jelousy of Dec’s wag, Freya.
BEN, Do please think a little more deeply and sensibly about this subject.
I dont know whether or not you will know this, but I, as a true and free thinking liberal person (though not a Lib Dem, as I find them fake and phony) have been implaceably against the sinister spread of wokism and fake virtue signalling that has so infected and harmed our society and our freedoms (and freedom is TRUE liberality).
But coming out against hate speech is NOT wokism, but defending important human values and principles.
HAVING THE “FREEDOM” TO INFLICT PAIN AND DISTRESS ON OTHERS, WILFULLY TOO AND BY HIDING ANONYMOUSLYIN THE SHADOWS OF SOCIAL MEDIA is an affront to decency and we all have a sacred duty as decent people to do our best to defend sometimes gullible, naive and even lesser intelligent folk from being harmed.
No decent society ANYWHERE ALLOWS WICKED PEOPLE to inflict fear, harm, distress and sometimes even suicidal thoughts, on ordinary mostly fine and decent human beings, simply because those decent people are not wise enough to avoid putting their lives on social media.
That lack of wisdom includes top level footballers and their wives or husbands, as this article shows us only too well and too sadly.
I accept it can sometimes be a fine line between not banning free speech and allowing hate speech to go unchallenged. But challenge it we MUST.
Intelligent and NOBLE folk, of which NOBILITY, includes some of our politicians, but not those who have great power to ultimately DECIDE policy, can easily distinguish between what ought to be allowed to be said and what OUGHT NOT to be allowed.
And evil minded, dimwitted, personally damaged, on line trolls OUGHT TO BE and MUST be banned by law.
It will happen, eventually, so why does it not happen NOW.?
Because, among those who decide, we have cowards and those who are only concerned with being in power but NOT in doing what IS RIGHT! SIGH!
If you ask me would I have wished social media had never been made possible, I WOUD UNHESTATINGLY SAY “YES”!!
Its a cesspit and we would all be better off without it!
Well, Jon, we can both agree about social media being a cancer upon this earth. However, if obnoxious opinions and marginalising other’s were to lead to an outright ban, then you wouldn’t have the freedom to express yours on this platform and you would’ve banned from it ages ago.
Can we just stop pretending that what this guy said is the worst thing that’s ever happened. Basically, he said he thinks Declan Rice’s girlfriend is ugly and with his money and status he could ‘do better’. It is not for us to agree or disagree, or even to announce our outrage. The only opinion that matters in this case is Declan Rice’s and he evidently does not concur.
Free speech MUST permit everything up to inciting violence upon an individual or group of people, yet everyone is remarkably quiet when it comes to the ‘Free Palestine’ movement, or worse yet, actively support it! You are arguing against free speech. And for speech to indeed be free one must be open to being offended, otherwise speech cannot occur at all.
Ben Taking your points one by one, if SOCIAL MEDIA HAD NEVER EXISTED, then I for just one among very many, would not have wasted so many , albeit enjoyable, but totally unproductive hours on JA.
You second point is more difficlut for me as i have not seen what was said and have no wish to do so. I crave in life, intelligent debate wirh other bright folk, as far as possible face to face, but online is next best, though a long way NEXT BEST
I do as you surely know, protect the right to fee speech but not to hate speech as this APPEARS to be, even though I cannot be sure, not having read it.
Unlike you, as it appears, I do and easily so, distinguish between one and the other.
I take your broad argument in your final paragraph, but again, I must and do discern a key difference between ANY free speech and OBVIOUS HATE FILLED SPEECH, of which many in the pro Palestinian marches do INDULGE THEMSELVES IN.
That comment is NOT in any way to suggest I support what the vicious Netanyahu led government is inflicting on helpless innocent Palestinians. It is EVIL!!
Let’s leave the Palestine talk, Jon. It is not for this forum and I shouldn’t have raised it. The point in question is not hate speech whatever that is, it is just mean-spirited nastiness, or bullying at worst.
Bullying should absolutely be dealt with but this is, as far as I can tell, an isolated incident. I am not condoning the actions of this individual but I think a semblance of perspective needs to be maintained. We cannot be silencing everyone who says something mean. If we did that no one would ever be able to say anything and debate could never happen.
This is just a horrible person with nothing better to do and the best thing we can all do is ignore them and celebrate Declan’s great relationship with his girlfriend and mother of his child. If we do that then those who make these comments can never win.
Ben Despite what some will imagine are differencre between you ans I , I do NOT see any real difference in principle at all. You areright to say wE ought to avoid the Gaza situation . Of course you are!
I admit that having NOIT seen that tweet i am working in the dark so to speak and it may well be that what was said was simply a nasty opinion.
I much agre that too many of us, esp of the younger generation, have become “snowflakes” ,though I realise that even using that word, upsets SOME people, rather obviously rmaking my point for me.
HOWEVER BEN, I still see a key difference between obvious hate speechintended to damage someone and a mere, albeit unpleasant, insult.
I havelongh thought that social media is a cesspit that a responsible government , whicu we do NOT have , nor in Opposition, would have LONG AGO PASSED LAWS WHICH distinguish what should and what should not be allowed.
I do acept that is far from easy but when there is not even any INTENTION to try, then I despair for the welfare of ordinary, decent, though often naive and gullible folk.
ALL folk, not just SOME , NEED TO BE PROTECTED from bad people and not only rich and influential folk! SIGH!
The idiot who made such statement is obviously a social media addict, and what they have in common is herd mentality, things go viral and everyone are into it religiously. The troll only believed in a “fact” that celebrities and influential people are meant to be into a kim k kind of partners, slim,5 ft 5″ with cute looks,heavy make-ups,plastic surgery all over the body and a social media slay queen, which prompt such scathing attack to body shame Decs girlfriend and his taste in women. They believe bad girls are best suited to top male celebrities, which is a terrible idea to any ambitious man. Stand your ground Declan, we all with you. COYG!