Arsenal secured a 1-0 victory over Brighton this evening, courtesy of an early strike from Bukayo Saka.
Having already recorded two wins against the Seagulls this season, Arsenal entered the contest with measured confidence. Nevertheless, Brighton have demonstrated their ability to trouble leading sides at the Amex Stadium, and the visitors were aware of the need for a strong start.
Early Breakthrough Sets the Tone
Arsenal delivered precisely that. Bukayo Saka opened the scoring after just nine minutes, immediately placing Brighton under pressure and signalling that it would be a demanding evening for the home side. The Gunners have developed a reputation this season for protecting slender advantages, and this encounter presented another stern examination of their defensive resolve.
Brighton attempted to respond with intensity, pushing forward in search of an equaliser. However, they were met by an Arsenal side determined and disciplined in their approach. The visitors defended with composure and commitment, limiting clear opportunities while remaining a threat on the counter attack.
Although Arsenal created several promising situations that might have allowed them to extend their lead before the interval, they were unable to add a second goal. Even so, they entered half time with the advantage intact, an outcome that proved crucial.
Defensive Discipline Secures Vital Points
The second half began in similar fashion, with Arsenal maintaining their structure and focus. Brighton increased the pressure, forcing the Gunners to withstand sustained spells of possession and attacking intent. Despite the mounting challenge, Arsenal held firm and demonstrated the resilience that has characterised much of their campaign.
Preserving leads is often a defining trait of title contenders, and Arsenal displayed that quality once more. Their mindset appeared clear, if they could not find another goal, they would ensure they did not concede. Through disciplined defending and collective determination, they saw out the match to claim an important three points in their pursuit of domestic success.
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This is our League to lose and I believe we won’t!
That was some match. With Brighton pressing it was a real tough. Happy for hard fought 3 points.
One game at a time…
That was dour and not great but probably VERY significant. Citys next 5 games 4 away. Us next 5 games 4 at home. The common game where they are home is against us. TOTALLY in our control. I am worried by the in treacle football but we keep scraping wins. We deserved today, probably not so much Chelsea but we did today. HOPEFULLY the breathing space and home games can help us play better football and control the game even more🤞Massive win. Big ups Gabriel, Rice and Timber. Big downs Zubimendi, Gyokores and Eze. They are struggling with the pressure and the occasion.
No theyre struggling with the fact we are playing defensive tight football..
Once we get over the line the handbrake will be off and next season too
Reggie
The football we are currently playing is nothing short of terrible but playing expansive free flowing football as we have in the past has cost us valuable points.
We all know we are better then this but I for one am happy that we are grinding out poor performance in attacking areas to secure points on the board.
Free flowing comes after. Securing the big jugs by what ever means comes first.
I am so proud of our team, manager and fans right now
At the start of the season everyone Including other teams and fan who mY I say some are two face would have bitten your hand off if there team wasn’t particularly playing well going forward be 7 points clear with 8 to go.
We don’t have soft underbelly any more and we have solid unit with leaders all over the pitch.
Last night game for me was the most worrying out of all the remaining fixtures, as we came up against a very good team who had found some form but we saw them off
Pressure back on city now not to drop points which they will and I see us still dropping a few as there are no easy games regardless of where u sit in the league
Keep your nerve, enjoy the ride regardless of how bumpy it might get at times
Another game ticked off and we move on to the cup next game
Onwards and upwards
Do not disagree. But we have never played free flowing football under Arteta. And that wasn’t the reason we lost the league the last 3 years. Mainly losing home games to teams inbthe bottom half of the table has been the biggest cause in the past. Not the way we play.
Reggie,
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on the whole “free-flowing football” point.
In that first season we finished second, and honestly it was some of the best football I’d seen in a long time. Maybe we were still a bit too young as a team, and perhaps the manager was still learning at that level, but we were blowing teams away. The problem came in the last 10 games — we kept pressing high and playing with the attitude of “we’ll just outscore you,” and in the end that caught up with us.
The following season we were a bit more pragmatic, but still played some good football. Injuries and a bit of naivety in certain games cost us valuable points, and then City went on that ridiculous run which was always going to be hard to match. It still went down to the final game of the season, but we needed to win and for City to lose — which realistically was never going to happen.
Last season wasn’t terrible, but it wasn’t great either. We dropped too many points against teams we really should have beaten. Liverpool were clearly the best team overall.
This season we’ve had our moments. Maybe the football hasn’t always been what we’d hoped for in terms of style, but we’ve been getting the points — and right now that’s what matters most. At this stage it’s about results, not entertainment.
Take Brighton for example — their manager likes to present himself as a football purist, which is fair enough, but at the end of the day if it finishes Brighton 0–1 Arsenal, everyone moves on. Winning is what counts, especially when you’re trying to get over the line.
Like everyone here, we’d all love us to be playing like Barca or PSG — winning in style and looking effortless. The difference is they’re used to winning trophies, so there’s no pressure hanging over them. For us, that weight is still there at times, and you can see it — regardless of what the players or manager might say publicly.
But the quality is there. Let’s get a trophy in the cabinet first, and I’m confident the team will relax and express themselves more freely.
The encouraging thing right now is that we look like we’re still in third gear and we’re still winning. Other teams should be worried, because if we ever hit fifth gear, we’ll be frightening.
Onward and upwards.
Reggie, did you miss the 22/23 season, as we played free flowing football in that season.
It was definitely better football, I wouldn’t call it free flowing. But that has no bearing on why we lost the league that year. It was more down to inexperience and poor results against teams we should have beat. Two years after, were not free flowing and we stoll failed. Its not free flowing football or dour drab football that wins the league. That ultimately doesn’t matter but (while I will accept it this year) its not sustainable playing turgid football.
Completely incorrect
First 2 years we played great football…won lots if games but then list / drew on the break when we ere going for 2nd or 3rd foal
The whole “hating pundits” would definitely go deaf and dumb now Arsenal won and without any set piece goal. The Cityzens dropped point and they’ll still cry and say after all, they didn’t lose. If it were to be Arsenal that dropped point now, they’d have flooded the social media space by now.
Onwards and upwards Gooners
Forget all the nonsense that the unrepentantly hypocritical spin doctors keep spewing in the media, because at this point in the season all that matters is getting the three points.
The truth tonight is that we won at a very difficult away ground while City could only draw at home to Forest.
I’m absolutely buzzing tonight!
COYG 💪
Gabriel Maghaleas was way too good today:
10/10
Clear Man Of Match
Rice was very close, he worked way too hard as there was nothing in front of him that wanted the ball (asides Saka & Brighton did well blocking us from going to him):
9/10
Then Hincapie was fantastic – I thought Arteta should have left him as LB so as not to disrupt the shutdown he was running on that side
But at the CB he was very good also:
8.5/10
Kai: fantastic, helped relieve the pressure on the midfield, Rice could now float around like he normally does, was willing to receive the ball anywhere on the pitch – plus very great aerially:
7.5/10
Raya: we know our keeper is world-class
7.5/10
Saka: he’s tired, but we stick him there to instill that worry in oppositions and yet again as I’ve always been saying: “He’s not at his best but 80% of our open play goals is still from his gameplay”:
7/10
Timber: This guy was very good today
8/10
Shout out to Trossard, also aided in getting the control of the game back in our favor
Those are the only people that showed up today
I have always been a lover of “clean sheets”.Take a bow Gabriel ,you were terrific tonight when some of your team mates were anonymous.. A lot of fans on JA criticise Odegaard on a regular basis but without him we seem unable to control the game.The less said about our starting front three and Eze, the better, and i sincerely hope Havertz stays fit for the rest of the season.
I genuinely do not understand the flack that comes Odegaard’s way.
The way Gabriel has matured in recent seasons has been epic. Such a change from when Bayern were tactically leaving him open and just letting him have the ball a few seasons ago.
Trouble is grandad, we fail to control the midfield whether or not Odegaard is or isn’t on the field. Unfortunately Odegaard is our designated creative leader and without Nwaneri we have no other remaining options because Rice is usually expending his energy cleaning up what Zubamendi is failing to do.
So you mean that easy shooting chance which Trossard totally mistimed. What else did Grandpa do to steady the ship. The guy is on his last legs.
Above was meant for Babasola, not Grandad.
I knew someone wouldn’t resist bringing up that Trossard miss🤣
Kromě jedné maličkosti souhlasím. Declan hodně pracoval, ale takové množství špatných přihrávek jsem od něho dlouho neviděl, a některé by lepší mužstva využila ke vstřelení gólu.
A Raya by nemusel dráždit naše nervy hned v úvodu svým, bohužel, opakující se špatnou rozehrávkou
The game I was really worried about! Three points and we March on. How big was this win! City held and it’s in our hands now.
Hincapie had a good game both at left back and center.
Midfield looks a bit thin, and that roar from the away end told every feeling from the Arsenal fans worldwide
Watching Arteta being interviewed post match
As much as he’s smiling, it looks as though Arteta has been on the rack
I am one of Artetas biggest doubters, but I liked the press conference. Brightons coach was pathetic, cry more. If this was any other team, they’d be labelled mentality monsters, champions wins, when it’s Arsenal, it’s the ugliest, the worst champions etc. I don’t like the style of football, it’s not pretty, buy I was a child when we last won the title…
I’ve shifted my way of thinking. 7 wins out of 8 games, any way they come. I just want to win it. If we put on a good run of wins, the pressure is mounting on City. Their fixtures are horrific.
Well done K 😍
As you said. Any way and 7 wins or city drop.more points which they will
Onwards and upwards
Konstantin
We all want to see the beautiful football that most of us remember when Wenger was in his pomp. The players who wanted to come to Arsenal because of him are testament to that.
City and Chelsea were enabled by the sheer wealth of their owners, before the financial fair play rules, to have the best of everything. Not exactly a level playing field, making a league title less likely and with the stadium debt to repay.
I hope Arteta and the team win and neither do I care how it’s achieved. All I ask is the match day supporters give full voice to urge the players on
Job done all that matters. 3 points for Arsenal 1 for City. Hincapie, Gabriel really dug in this match. Rice too in the 2nd half especially. If this is how we win matches then is what it is but definitely dont think this can be done many more times and hopefully at home we can make games more smoothly again. Also, Raya is a champ in the box and his control of it was the big difference between Brighton scoring v. walking away with nothing.
boring but job done and thanks to NF for the tie against City.
Job done most important. Good flowing attacking football last three seasons ends in 2nd places.
Fans will forgive Arteta for “boring football” If Arsenal win Epl 😎
FYI, we only have 3 away matches left. A lot of this is going to come down to holding our nerves at home in front of a crowd with a lot of expectations to end our league drought
Really disappointed with the Brighton manager
Just heard him still harp on about ti.e wasting
. I think we call it game management
Talking about giving yellow cards and sending off. Understand he is trying to get everyone up for the game but once finished I expected him to at least acknowledge it’s just a game of football but still chirp on is poor sportsman ship
Really hope they go down next season 😃
I will take 1-0 to the arsenal for every remaining game. Not sure if my heart will take it
As we said b4. A few more twists and turns and today it was in our favour.
Pa
If you saw some of the faces of some the city players. It told a story that they know it could be a step to far for them this season after that result
Onwards and upwards
Expect more managers to start doing this. The media has set the narrative that we are aggressive bullies and foul every corner. This ref today was a bit of a mess to begin with though and was calling some ghost fouls against Gyokeres lol. Also, this game got 7 added minutes so not sure what he’s complaining about.
Please don’t wish BHA bad luck over their stupid manager. They’re one of the most deserving of the Premier League’s so-called “lesser clubs.” I’d love to see them in Europe.
Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth. Love them all.
like you i do like BHA they play really good football are a well run club and compete as shown last night.
think he is a really good manager but his mouth should engage his brain and not spurt out the rubbish he was saying
he should be big enough to congratulate the other team, close the door and move on.
he should have got his team to score and then
Anyone else not bothered about the way we played, how long we took to take a corner, whether our throw ins were good, if we used the “dark arts” or whether there were scrums in the penalty areas, or the referee was biased?
Watch and read how all the above are used when describing The Arsenal win tonight by the media!!
Three great big points and an improved GD while city115 dropped two points – a welcome rest from the PL this weekend and a real chance to rest many of our “senior” players.
Five home and four away games to come and as long as we get enough to cross the line as champions, I couldn’t care less how we play!! COYG!!
Sorry, three away games… even better!!
Let whoever is yapping do it, who cares !
I think we will the league at Etihad, I feel so, and how good will be that.
I still remember us getting battered by Bayern under Wenger and we countered and the Bayern player just wiped out our player no chance of the ball and pep ran down the touchline clapping his hands as if they had scored a goal so no in a title race with City and pep i agree we should not evenbe remotely concerned about the dark arts (which everyone in the league literally has used against us repeatedly for 20 years and worse with actual leg breaks.)
Ken, no I’m not bothered one little bit. Winning is all that matters in my book.
HD, the question is, will our referees start to take in what is being said and officiate accordingly?
Take a look at the write up of the game on BBC Sport and you’ll see exactly what I said would happen actually happen!!
The old saying “mud sticks” is going to be the theme for our remaining eight PL games I believe and we will be officiated and talked about in this negative way…. and will be transferred over to the Carabo cup final.
Like you, I’m not bothered, but the agenda against our club is becoming even more hysterical – bring it on I say!!
Ken, it would not surprise me if refs do officiate us differently. Look at last night and the foul that was given early in the game against Gyokeres. The Brighton player barged into Gyokeres and went down and got a free kick 😯.
Agenda ken, not conspiracy?😂 There is a good article defending Arsenal against what Hurlizter said about Arsenal, on Sky Sports. There is no agenda. And no proof. What agenda? And why?
Dont think ive ever been buzzing so much over such a performance but we are 7 clear!
We have Everton (h) and Bournemouth (h) before City in the league as well as Mansfield (a) fa cup, Leverkusen in the cl and City in the Carabao.
City play west ham (a), Crystal Palace (h) and Chelsea (a) in the league with Newcastle (a) in the Fa cup and Madrid 2 legs in the CL.
Its looking good.
I really thought that we will drop points in these past 3 matches but we have taken 9 points. That’s brilliant.
Now unto Everton at home in 2 weeks time. That’s another tough match and Everton are in good form, but I believe we can get the win.
A big thank you to Nottingham Forest. They shared points with City and that will give us a little breathing space with the 4 points gap.
Everton, Newcastle, West Ham and Man City.
These are the 4 toughest matches that we will face in the remaining 8 fixtures. I hope and pray we win most of them.
Bournemouth and Fulham will also be tough but we should win them at the Emirates.
Crystal Palace and Burnley also has to be wins.
God please. Let everything just align for us this year.
We are way overdue for a title.
Sj
You have to earn the prem
At the end of the season it is the best team that always wins it
Not because teams bottle it but because the team that wins it has earned it
Not counting my chickens just yet but we are on our way to earning it
8 to go and 7 points to go
Imo points on the board are better then games in hand at this stage of the season and we currently have the points
As I previously said. It is causing me a heart attack at times but loving ❤️ every minute of this run in a d lime Ken, I don’t care about performances, game management, I care about the points
Onwards and upwards
8 games is still a long way to go and anything can happen, but I believe we have what it takes to much points from this remaining games left and I don’t care how we do it as long as we get all 3 points in every match.
Well done massive 3 points.
Coming to Everton game , can’t wait.
COYG.
Whenever Big Gabby runs out for us… just know we will not be losers.
He represents the world class in this side as does his main man. Captain material. No nerves from me, none whatsoever, not when arsenal have the best CBs in world football.
Oh! Hincapie is impressing me. He is improving every match and he has taken the left back spot from the injury prone Calafiori and the young Skelly.
Hincapie, Gabriel, Timber and Raya were solid today.
Our defence might just end up being the unit to win us the league.
Our attack has to step up for this business end of the season.
Funny fact we are on track to outscore the invincibles but conceed more.
Personally I thought Hindcapie struggled at LB today. He was better at CB, filled in great but Calafiori (injury apart) is a far better player, defending and going forwards. From what I have seen he is a similar standard to Kiwior, whom I was not a fan of but covered great. Whatever anyone thinks we have great cover in defence.
I actually prefer Calafiori too but his fitness record is just frustrating.
Hopefully most or all of our players will stay fit for the rest of the season.
City and Liverpool showing there’s few easy games in the PL. Our usual weaknesses were on show – aka our attacking front – but some terrific performances from the back and great ugly win. Onwards!
A defensive performance full of grit. That took a lot of suffering, but the job got done all the same. Attention to the next, a trip to Mansfield in the FA cup. COYG!
We can probably quickly agree that it was not a good game. Arsenal only had 1 shot on goal in the whole game. We knew, Brighton would be tough to beat. They have only lost 2 home games. However Arsenal players seem tired. We are playing a lot of games.Rotation is more necessary than ever. But nice with the 3 points and nice that ManC only got 2-2 against NottF.
if we win our next two home games in the league we send City to Bridge at least with the gap 10 points
I’m also hopeful City and Palace stay in Europe so their game in hand is not before we go to the Ethiad
Assuming both Arsenal and Man City win their next matches, but Man City lose to Chelsea, we could, in theory, win the league at the Etihad if we beat Man City, as it would require us to lose 4 of the remaining 5 matches to be overtaken. I think this is not too far fetched!
thank you to the Forest defender on the line at the Ethiad in the last second .
That’s what I love sport – the small details.
That clearance could be massive for both ends of the table
Everton H
Bournemouth H
Man City A
Newcastle H
Fulham H
West Ham A
Burnley H
Crystal Palace A
These are still very tough 8 matches that we have ahead for us, because these teams have shared points with us in the past 3 seasons, so a new record against them needs to be created for us to be able to win the league.
Hopefully the boys put up a very strong performance and we win all or most of them and City still drop a few points too.
Burnley have the worst xga away, Bournemouth have the 2nd worst xga away and Fulham have the 6th worst away.
3rd is West Ham, 2-0
4th is Forest 3-0
5th is Sunderland 3-0
7th is Villa 4-1
8th is Leeds 4-0
That should boost our goals scored and open play. We are going to outscore the invincibles by a margin this season but probably wont beat the Arteta record for goals scored. Can only conceed 4 more all season to equal the invincible defence though. Funny how narratives work vs reality.
What matters to us now is to win the league. Whether boring or free flowing game, does not really matter to me. This is what we are saying. The coach and players should have the mentality of seeing out games. Those last minute equalizers brought the pressure we find ourselves. 8 finals left. Play ugly and win the game. That’s all. Congratulations to the coaching staff. Congratulations boys. We move !
Dreadful game ,but 3 points ,honestly shocked how we are 7 points ahead but I’ll take it surely ours to lose now .
On to the next .
That was a tough old game, with as much going on off-field as on.
Something odd about the new free-kick routine🤔.
7th Mansfield (A)
11th Leverkusen (A)
14th Everton (H)
17th Leverkusen (H)
22th Man City (Wembley)
Here are our remaining matches before the break. Every match is doable, but it will be tough. Especially the Leverkusen – Everton – Leverkusen, as we play all 3 matches inside 6 days.
Let’s hope Ödegaard, White and Saliba are back as soon as possible. We need full strength. Against Mansfield I predict:
————- Kepa
Timber – Mosquera – Cala – MLS
——– Rice – Norgaard
Madueke – Havertz – Dowman
————– Jesus
Rice needs rest. He is knackered. Zubimendi is making him work too hard.
So he shouldn’t play against Mansfield.
Jesus.
Martinelli. Downman. Madueke.
Skelly. Norgaard.
Calafiori. Hincapie. Mosquera. Salmon.
Kepa.
Yep. Then we need to hit Leverkusen HARD in the first leg, 4 – 0 or something, then play low intensive, haram ball at Emirates, to allow us prepare well for EFL final with Man City, who’ll be hosting Real Madrid and will hopefully be playing an all out game.
The game against Leverkusen won’t be easy either, so I’m not expecting a 0 – 4 win to us.
But that scoreline won’t be bad though.
Hopefully we get a solid win that will give us a relief going into the 2nd leg at the Emirates.
That was a painful watch to be honest. And it’s not the first time this season either. I have to agree with the Brighton manager regards them being the only team trying to play.
Now maybe I’ve been spoilt by the Wenger years, but he managed to win titles playing better football than this. Now I know I’ll probably get some kick back by some poster’s regarding my comments, but I say it as I see it.
As for the game itself, the defending by the team and their attitude cannot be questioned. It was absolutely superb. But as for the attacking, practically non-existent.
And the time wasting by us is getting ridiculous. I’ve never watched paint dry, but I’m thinking of giving it a go.
Now people will say well it’s just one game, but come on now, be honest its not is it. This win at all cost’s thing doesn’t entirely sit right with me. Yes winning is the ultimate goal obviously, but I want to see them doing it actually playing football while their at it.
Arteta says how proud of his players he is, which is okay. But if you’re telling me that he’s proud of these turgid performances, then I have to question what his actual football philosophy is.
And remember, he played in Arsene Wenger teams. The difference between the managers are night and day.
The only positive from this game for me is that we’ve stretched the lead to 7 points excellent. It’s just a shame I can’t say the same thing regarding our football performance.
Until we drop to 2nd position in the league and drop out of the rest competitions this season, the ugly performance should continue.
We all want beautiful football, but we want trophies more.
So far, the ugly dirty football has us at the top of the table and progress in the other competitions, so I can’t complain.
3 months to go for us to know if the ugly football will win us a trophy or it will be a failure. So far, so good.
I hope we improve though and win as many games as possible till the end of May.
Arteta will be happy with the 3 points, thats his job. If we win the league playing that way, he has done his job. If we don’t that a total different kettle of fish. I am sure, whatever we can play better football than we are to win the league. But first thing, is win it. Playing that way isn’t sustainable though.
Are you suggesting that the un sustainability is for this season or for the future seasons? I would appreciate knowing your reasoning especially for this season. I think we would all go potty if winning ugly as it’s called became a feature for next season
Probably for this season, but the games are getting fewer, so we may or may not hang on. But 100% not sustainable for the next seasons. Its too draining to play the way we do, giving the ball away due to poor shape and lack of ambition. Playing to not lose, is harder to sustain and the pressure is not sustainable. It also becomes harder to play differently the more you do it, mentally.
DEREK
Again, complain
You have said we have been playing dull football compared to Wenger’s time, but let me remind you something: Wenger played beautiful football, but he also played ugly football especially in the unbeaten season. I can even take you back to the 2005 FA cup final and the 2006 Champions League semis second leg against Villarreal where Jens Lehman was the best player.
If Arteta wins the league playing ugly football,then nobody will remember how we played. It’s all about winning
And by the way, you can’t beat Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid, Inter Milan away, Bilbao away, Chelsea 3 times, Spurs home and away, United away, Villa when you are playing dull football
And, you can’t be joint league top scorers and highest GD by playing ugly football
Don’t compare wengers era to this era. Its not comparable. First Wenger won many trophies and second he never was given the spending power to beef up his squad like this era. Whatever your opinion do not use Wenger. He won the league anyway. He did it with his hands tied.
When did Wenger win the PL with his hands tied Reggie ?
compare what Wengers net spend to Man United and Chelsea in these title winning years
watch a documentary or listen to the defenders inherited from GG
your be surprised how well he did
inherited a mess and won titles with little net spend
That is not the answer to my question 🙄.
When were his hands tied in ’98, ’02 and ’04 ?
it is an answer
his hands were tied because Man United and then Chelsea could spend more
But his hands weren’t tied in those years 🙄. The fact that Utd and Chelsea spent more had nothing to do with us winning the PL in those 3 seasons.
I think if your restricted in the transfer market that’s having your hands tied.
But again opinions.
You clearly don’t rate the guy lol.
I rated the Wenger we had at Highbury very highly. As I said to Ken, last year I think it was, the football we played in those days was the best I’ve ever seen us play, and I’ve started going to games in 1975.
We weren’t restricted in those 3 season.
Well Arsenal seem to manage it.
Freddy,
Come on now, of course there were games under Wenger when we won ugly. That can happen but come on now, we can all pick and choose a game here and there.
But for the last three seasons now, if you really wanted to, you could find a catalogue of games under Arteta where the football is dull and pragmatic.
You may well enjoy the way the team are playing, and fair play to you if that’s the case. But not me I’m afraid. It bores me rigid.
Wenger was frail at the end of his tenure. His style of football was the reason we got beat 8-2, 6-0, 6-3, 5-1 by all our rivals.
He was also having to sell his best player?
Players?
@Reggie
I was about to make the same point.
Teams (ie Chelski, Man U & Citeh115) began to covert our players then lure way from wengers grip. And they would wait to see who wenger wanted before guzumping many of the players associated with wenger eg yaya toure was just one.
Reggie,
Also Wenger seemed to go away from the big combative midfielders that he had who could also play as well as look after themselves, and went for more technical ones. This weakened the performances of the team also in my opinion. 👍
didn’t Arteta finish 8th and also get humiliated at the Ethiad and Anfield ?
Grounds he’s yet to win at ?
Again if you want to mock one you got to be consistent
If you look at Mr Wenger last 6 years compared to Arteta 1st your find Mr Wenger won more trophies and didn’t finish in our worst position in quarter of a century
Derek, while it may well not be as entertaining as when we won PL titles at Highbury, it’s been effective. Professional sport is all about winning.
Remember when we moved to our new stadium, the football was entertaining, but where did that get us in the PL ? Getting battered against the big clubs, and even losing to newly promoted teams.
You can not compare. It was under completely different circumstances. And Arteta would not have tge riches and a new stadium now if it wasn’t for the restraints Wenger went through. Plus it wasn’t about the style but the lack of “bought” quality.
So getting battered and losing to promoted teams was down to the “lack of bought quality”? 😂. Nothing to the lack of coaching the defences then 🙄.
Whats that hot to do with a coach able to win the league. Obviously when you have a team that in total, cost about 150 mil and one that cost 1billion, there is a massive chance there will be a difference. I don’t understand this “coaching” ? Wenger won the league with his “coaching”?
And I am not getting into a fruitless debate Wenger v Arteta. Different eras, different finances different circumstances.
there is zero debate
one has a better record then the other lol
Yeah coaching, like George Graham did, you know with the lower league defenders he bought.
Now you are bring GG into it? Really? Its a bit futile. And not anywhere near the point.
I was calling Wenger with many others in his “last” years. He went on too long but he still won 2 cups and finished a lowly 5th. In his bad years at the end. But don’t question Arteta against Wenger. There is no comparison. None at all.
Of course I am, as wenger benefited from the defence. Tell me how many PL titles were won after the last GG player left us ?
The point is a tight defence will win you the PL title.
not one member of the Invincibles won a title under GG.
So your argument is flawed
also before Wenger arrived this GG defence had gone years without challenging the titil
nearly every single one credited Mr Wenger for taking them back to the highest level
most Gooners would know that
Quite a key part of our history to forget
Do you remember the 97/98 and the 01/02 squad ?
As I’ve explained to you previously, the managers before Wenger had a different remit, they had to win trophies.
We all know that Wenger extended their careers, and also played a type of football that got us out of our seats.
No one’s forgetting anything about our history, just trying to educate on how a PL title is won 😁.
Remind us all how many years were we in European competitions under Wenger and how many of those competitions we won ?
Asking for a friend.
GG before Mr Wenger had a different remit to no longer challenge for a title?
he didn’t win a European trophy no .
begs the question how was he more successful?
honestly do some research , go see the league positions since our last title win up to when Wenger arrived
go see how unprofessional we had become in our dressing room.
This is quite standard stuff most Gooners know lol.
it’s opinions of course as long as your consistent
If Arteta wins the title I expect the same energy
I expect you to say , Arteta won title because he inherited an attacker off Emery.
The truth is Wenger inherited a failing club and turned us around
the greatest manager in our history
Go research it
and tell your friend that zero owner / member of the board said it was okay to be terrible In the league for years if they won a few cups
As I I answered your question can you answer for me ……who won more trophies , Mr Wenger or GG?
Yes, a different remit. If you didn’t win a trophy in 6 years you got the tin tack.
I don’t have to do any research, I was there 😁.
So unprofessional that they won 3 trophies (including a European one) in 2 seasons.
Yes Saka came through under Emery, but that was on the left wing. Mikel has got the best out of him by switching him over to the right wing.
Wenger won more trophies, as he was there a lot longer duh 🙄
Also what was the better ratio, 6 trophies in 8 years or 10 trophies in 22 years ?
again not really my job to educate you and I can’t believe you don’t know this period in your history
let’s say GG was manager for approx 9 years
so compete his first 9 years to Mr Wenger and tell me who won more trophies ?.Then ( we done this before ) tell me in the 9 years their league finishes and who finished lower
this is the issue trying to dig out Mr Wenger, you make every other Arsenal manager look weak
I can’t believe I have to tell an Arsenal fan that in 1996 Mr Wenger inherited a mess and turned around
you are literally the only person l ever met who challenges this
get me that list though lol
You can’t educate me on The Arsenal.
George was not the manager for 9 years, he was the manager for just over 8 years, so it’s a rather silly question.
That mess you keep mentioning, would that be the mess that Rioch left ? I mean you do know that he was the manager before Wenger ?
lets be honest …….we had this debate a year ago and we are not going to agree lol
I’m not going to tell a so called Arsenal fan about the mess GG left and how Mr Wenger changed things
go listen to interviews with David Dein and like most players
it’s such a huge part of our history that if you don’t know it speaks volumes
but let’s agree to disagree lol
Arteta also got battered and lost to promoted teams
it happens to most managers
At the Emirates ? Against who ?
soz missed the Emirates bit
Herr Drier,
We can all have a laugh at Wenger’s expense if you like regarding some of his shortcomings. But the fact of the matter is, he’s proved that you can win titles playing good football. Something that the current manager hasn’t got the bottle to do.
And just to mention lets have a laugh at some of his shortcomings to.
Both managers have them, but Wenger has the trophy’s, Arteta has his personal stats.
I know what stat I like. 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
We have played the kind of football they want Arsenal to play in the last two decades and we ended up without any major trophy… Now we are playing a monster kind of football.. Nobody can tell how Arsenal will play in the next match.. That is what we want.. Arsenal doesn’t care if they have one shot or a million ones on goal what they care about is winning… That is what matters.. Anyone that is tired of how we are paying boring, ugly and non entertaining football are free to stop watching out matches for now then come back when we lift the title(hopefully )it’s as simple as that..
@Junking
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I agree 100%
Also whoever despises Arteta prior to when he (hopefully) collects a title will look for further reason to despise his job after his success too. For what? they will say he’s won one why can’t he win another??. smh
Far as im concerned Arteta is a prodigy of Pep and of wenger (who must have apreciated and seen something unique or outstanding in his character even to make him his captain?).
remind me guys
all the years we played beautiful football but won nothing because we were naive did we get any credit or were we mocked ?
When we had all the possession but lost to a Jose team for bullying us or Sir Alex picked a Fletcher / Neville just to kick us ….were we not mocked ?
So now we are doing the opposite and getting belittled ?
which one is it
First, its about winning. If you don’t win anything, then you get mocked. Then when you win you get mocked. Its life. I dont think Mourinos mantra of parking the bus, was ever praised.
I agree
think some of the criticism for Arsenal is way over the top
It is, especially if they win the league. But it will not stop it. But the football is a poor watch.
Dan
Nice question. The fact is, some people here just hate everything Arteta does, no matter what
In 2005 FA cup final, we played the worst football ever, yet we won a trophy.
In 2006 Champions League semis second leg against Villarreal, we played crap, yet people don’t remember it because we reached the final
Fact is, it’s only the media and rival fans that have been driving this agenda against us, and sadly, many Arsenal fans have bought it. Ask yourself: When did scoring a set piece become an issue? Against Chelsea, we matched a corner goals record of 17 years ago done by West Bromwich Albion, and a record of Man United in 2012/13 when they won the league. That means set pieces in those days were still important. But guess what? Some of the people pushing this agenda include Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Rio Ferdinand who were part of that Man United team. Lol 😂😂😂😂
Freddy 🎯💯
😂😂
Agenda? Scholes is a gonk, granted. But There is an article yesterday from Ferdinand praising Arsenal. And Gary Neville has said Arsenal will win the league and has often said, the points are more important than the performance, in support of us.
Having listened to a clip of Pardew today bemoaning our play and complaining that if we win the league there should be an asterisk against it is rather shocking tbh. Winning by playing functional football as he described it deserves that?! Did City win the league because of the oil millions with an asterisk?
Whos Pardew? 😂
Oooh Sue, of course they won because of the shake your money oil, owners. But lets not tell anyone about the Kronke money🤫🤣
Bang on Reggie ,apparently mr Lego hasn’t spent 1 billion.😂
Yes i’ve enjoyed the van bronkhorst, ashley cole, tony adams, sol campbell, *thierry, *bergkamp, the vieira, aubamyang, van persie, *Pires, anelka, *carzola, wilshires, Petit, *f. lumberg, m. keown, *wright, alexis sanchez, m. thomas, alan smith, p. mertesacker (…we even tried davor suker 🙂 )
Most provided us big moments, memories and have lead us to where we are now (*emphasis).
Though we are capable of eye catching stuff on the field its not got us over the line. We lack the clinical striker up front of LFC and of Citeh115. Our mid-field had to have suffered with the loss of partey, even with our best midfield it still only compares to Chelski’s mid-field.
However…
..we are proving ‘irrepressible’ and as a result we sit [*Top Of The League ] that’s because of this defense NOT solely due to any synergy up front but because of all this work put in by our world class defending. Its what we offer TODAY in the modern game, its what is helping turn things around for us in this moment in time.
I’m just so happy to see the positive messages from fellow gooners here, and my friends after this victory. It feels like a real turning point.
True spirit of what it means to support this club is very bright.
Something inside me broke after the 2-1 win versus Wolves at the Emirates. That win was so laboured, so ugly… it was disheartening. I have never felt so terrified in 90 minutes and since that day I am unable to watch Arsenal games any more. The fear is too much. Now I just want us to win the league no matter what evils we will commit on the way.. Arteta JUST WIN. I can’t bring myself to watch the remaining games but I will follow on my phone’s football app till the final day of the season.
Whatever works for you is very fine. If you don’t want to watch the remaining games.
I understand how you feel, because that 2 – 1 win to Wolves was very weird and annoying. I didn’t even understand how I was feeling after that game.
The 2 – 2 draw against Wolves, I didn’t watch it because I was down and slept off that night, only to wake up and check the scores on my phone to see a 2 – 2 draw.
I nearly had a panic attack. I was so frightened by the score and so restless and I couldn’t go back to sleep throughout that midnight, even without me watching the match, how much more if I had watched it.
Well, it will never be an easy ride to the title, especially after not winning it for 22 years and the rich quality of the remaining opponents, so good days and bad days are normal and are to be expected.
Let the players just try their possible best to win games well, and if they can’t they should try and grind out the win for these remaining 8 games.
6 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss can actually win us this league.
Let our good wishes for the team come to pass
QD, what didn’t help in that 2-1 win was as soon as we had the ball Wolves deployed 6 men in defence. They only came out to play once we went 1-0 up in the 70th minute.
Let’s just go on and win, whichever way we can in our next 3 games in all competitions and progress to achieving the ultimate goal, which is winning trophies.
Mansfield
Leverkusen
Everton
Food for thought:
And when those Bees were content enjoying the honey they seen no point trying to encourage the flies away from their sh?#.
Another hard fought win for the boys, second game in a row I called spot on, always when I don’t have a bet on it do I get the score correct! 😀