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Torreira deal in doubt amidst Partey confusion

Arsenal’s Lucas Torreira completed his medical days ago ahead of his move to Atletico Madrid on loan, but the delay in completing tells us more about their expectations this month.

The Uruguayan is set to join the club on a season-long loan today on Deadline Day, but that now looks in doubt, despite having fallen down the pecking order in North London.

Arsenal have been strongly linked with a deal to sign Thomas Partey from Atletico, but that now appears to be off.

Torreira’s awaiting confirmation that his move to the Wanda Metropolitan has been completed, but that deal is said to stem on the departure of one of Atleti’s other players, which sounds far away at present.

If Arsenal were in with a chance of signing Thomas Partey today, you would think that the two medicals could have taken place at the same time, without need to add further delay to proceedings, but the fact that Torreira is sat waiting in the Spanish capital proves otherwise.

Spanish football expert Semra Hunter told Sky Sports (via Football.London)”That is on standby at the moment. He is in Madrid, he had his medical a couple of days ago. You could see him wearing his mask with the Atletico Madrid badge on it.

“He’s all ready to go – he passed that with flying colours. The problem now is that Atletico Madrid have to offload somebody at the very least.

“And it is looking like it is going to be either Thomas Lemar or Hector Herrera, or a combination of the two. The problem is that neither of them has a transfer deal in the works at this particular moment in time.”

Torreira’s move could well complete after the departure of Partey to another club, with Chelsea also recently linked, but the comments above on Los Rojiblancos doesn’t sound like any outoings are close.

Am I alone in believing the Torreira situation is proof that Partey will not be in North London today to complete a deal? Could Atletico still be expecting to lose Partey with Torreira lined up as his replacement?

Patrick

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    2. We are paying 45M release bail for Partey, Torreira already there, valued at 25Mto 30M,

      Partey would cost us 15 to 20M then. He needs to do medical as well to be a swap+ money deal.

      They did promised Auba to sign players to stand chance to compete.

      Still need a creative midfield and a top CB to lead our guard, Partey nor any DM can help with Luiz behind him Nor can spend all game guarding Luiz man and his own.

      End of the day, this line in central area must be solved.

      A top CB, DN and Creative attacking nidfiel to feed Auba and co, or we can make plays … He is there on Left wing left with no ball, obliged to come all away down to get ball, but can’t score as much doing so…

      Let’s cross our finger to land Party and a creative giy , Said is 15M and perfect if we can’t pay Aouar… Lyon is looking for a CB, mustafi or sokratis or Saliva on loan can allow us to only pay 20 for Aouar and rest in later.

      Clearly, we not spending money or Koulibaly would call this a damn day. We can compete for title with Koulibaly in…Not without a beast in CD.

      1. Funny how for lack of money we can’t ever get it right.

        We get Auba, have Ozil but he has no top DM behind to allow him freedom. Then when is can’t perform no one gets that but unless he spend all game long further down on pitch as Ceballos who can’t feed Auba by defending as Ceba does all game long or we would not notice him as Ozil. But as Ozil, he can’t play his game and real position, creating attacks.

        Now we look like we getting that DM finally in Partey but still need a Koulibaly behind him…

      2. Koulibaly is over priced and overated

        no big club is aftering him despite leaking goals

        he is one of the reason why Napoli is leaking goals

        hes a good player though

        However there are better defenders out there that doesnt cost a bomb

  2. As I said few minutes ago, ATM have us by the balls and theres nothing we can do. If the club have the money as Edu claimed on video, then arsenal shouldve gone for TP. That would force ATM to do business. Whoever sanctioned this move was either too desperate or just stupid. unless we buy TP right away, ATM will end up with both mfs after selling their inferior players including Hector herrera at 11.50pm.

    1. thats the way things….

      clubs waiting for each other and anticipating the next move

      unless the club is willing to pay way overprice tag

  3. Even when there is no competition from other clubs Arsenal still can’t get deals done.

    There’s only about 2-4 clubs that are playing worse football than Arsenal right now in the league. Let’s not forget we already played 2 of them. No chance Arsenal are finishing in top 4 unless everyone of the other teams has worse season than us.

    Can’t even create chances let alone finish them. In reality we needed 2 amf, we can’t even get 1. After international break it will be quite the free fall.

    Maybe they will look to domestic target after today, that has one more week to run, where everyone will be more overpriced then.

    1. Our odds have just went from 1/4 to 1/20 in the last hour dan!! I thi k its gonna happen!!

  5. Can you believe, just a few hours away from the end of the window……and what club have *****d up. Not Everton, Not Spurs……..Us! Arsenal. Familiar story? The obsession with Aouar may have led us down the garden path, because all the others players we were interested in, but held back from, have been swept up. Very poor. We must be honest, a club the size of Arsenal should not screw up so often. My dream….that we get Boubakare Soumare and Thomas Partey right at the last minute. Dream on Sean.

  6. Maybe, well no obviously we haven’t got the money for Partey. Torreira maybe will go or would have gone, if we can or could of raised funds as a sort of replacement. We are desperately trying to offload some players that are proving difficult to shift. Its not dead in the water but it is sinking with every hour.

  7. we should do a swap Torriera-Partey…..As for Aouar we have the exact same kind of player with Ceballos IF we sign him permanently next year….

    1. They dont want a swap deal. They have financial problems as well and it complicated but a swap and cash doesn’t work for them this year.

      1. Even David Orstein reported it but gave the credit to Watts.
        Both of them are credible sources when it comes to Arsenal news.

    3. As far as i am aware, everything is in place and it would be a straight forward tranfer but things have to happen for both teams in the transfers market to happen, that part isn’t simple.

      1. Once Guendouzi as gone it looks like we will pay the release ”clause that’s what it sounds like to me anyway .

      1. There’s a reason Fabrizio is called a tap-in merchant. Ornstein also relayed Watts’ report. Fabrizio has been awful with Arsenal news. He’s been wrong about Kolasinac as well.

  9. Thomas Partey is coming 🤭
    It’s all over twitter that Arsenal will pay release clause.
    Fingers crossed 🤞

      1. Lol…he will.
        Everyone else including Ornstein confirmed it except that Tap-in merchant Fabrizio, he insists There’s no offer.
        He’s waiting for it to finalize to Tap it in with Here We Go.
        Partey’s own was never in doubt.
        It was an agreement he had with Arsenal

          1. His transfer odds to arsenal are 1/20 from 1/4 in an hour guys, I think it’s happening 🙏🙏🙏

              1. Been refreshing updates all day long…all I see is man u completes blah blah come announce it already and the partey begins

        2. Any credible news he has flown in for medical ? Does the medical has to be completed before the dead line?

  10. My comments are reserved cozy the club may lay me off the sameway it has made some members of staff loose their jobs

  11. Hmm.. dream scenario:

    Arsenal LOAN out Torreira and Guendouzi.

    Arsenal finally budge to Athletico’s demands and pay the full release clause of Thomas Partey, £45m.

    Next summer after a solid season, Athletico wants to buy Lucas Torreira. However Arsenal won’t budge and will demand £40m, which Athletico after awhile will just have to suck up and pay!

  12. what are we going to do about the 2 excess non home grown players we have? and if partey comes in it will be three excess. if Torreira goes, it will be 2. are we going to leave out three senior players from out official pl squad? I guess since the likes of Ozil, Socretes , Mustafi, and kolasinac dont figure in the team are in danger of being left out if they dont kind a club by the end of today.

    2. Kolasinac is still linked with a move to Germany. Hopefully that will go through. And guessing someone just wont register at this point. Probably Sokratis will not play and will look for a move in January.

  14. Guys, dont freak out but I think it’s happening… Also Torreira was contingent on one of ATM’s players leaving… Little did they know that player was going to be Partey tho. Fingers crossed we get our man today!! Arsenal may just avoid an onslaught of Gooner rage

      1. Wild things happen on deadline day Sue. Also meaning nothing is there until it’s official…. Goodness do I hope this day ends with a smile on all our faces tho. This would be a massive signing!!

  15. If we do get Partey today…..why not 2 weeks ago? We could have beaten Liverpool. It seems Atletico need to get rid of two players to take Torreira…..maybe we are going to take Lemar on loan too. All Arsenal supporters are allowed anti-anxiety tablets from their GP’s, Matt Hancock just said so on BT Sports.

    1. Sean, I’m guessing it had something to do with Aouar pursuit, and outgoings. If we did pay Partey’s release clause early, clubs would hike up prices on any of our targets. Didn’t really make a difference tho since we were priced out of Aouar deal anyways.

      1. Personally i think it was more down to moving others on so they could make space for him, both for non homegrown quota and wages.

        We all know money is tight, not just at Arsenal but everywhere. Thats just my view not based on any facts as we just dont have them

  16. Would be music to my ears and
    maybe, just maybe Arsenal will
    move for Benrahma before the
    domestic window closes on the
    16th.

    Moving on Mustafi and Chambers
    in January when both are fully fit
    should cover his £25M fee.

    Fingers crossed

  17. To answer one of your regular two questions PATRICK, I have zero idea of what, if antthing at all, Arsenal will achieve this side of the window closing. I have already made a acostly error in backing Aoure to come , with my own money and have no intentionof ever again making this mistake while the maverick owner we have remains.

    It all comes down to Kroenke not caring EMOTIONALLY EVEN A JOT, FOR HIS BUSINESS.

    That is of course a moral outrage, as we all know, but I have given up predicting ANY ins and outs under this morally bankrupt “persons” ownership, ever again!

  18. i told you to lower your expectations,now arrangements for medical in spain as per david ornstein of atheltic

  19. This is a classic example of a shit deal. Are we Arsenal or are we Atletico’s bitch? We let them have a test drive for a season. It’s totally up to them to buy or not at the end of it. On top of that, we still have to wait patiently for them to sell before they would accept a deal to shit on us? Just how desperate are we to let them to walk all over us like that?

    As pathetic as we are at offloading players, it pisses me off even more that there are fans out there who insist we should just bend over backwards and pay Lyon whatever they want for Aouar. Getting rip-off is not a sign that we know what we are doing, it’s a sign that we are spineless pushovers

    1. I somewhat agree. Seems Arsenal did push for Torreira to be permanent but couldnt get it done. What leverage did we have to force them to take him on a permanent deal? The club may have felt it was better to gamble on his success with Atleti than to sell to him someone like Torino on a 10mill loss. (unsure if we are getting a loan fee from this as well btw). On Aouar, I was upset intially, but did quickly come around to the fact he just wasnt worth that much. Had to think to myself what exactly he achieved to be worth 50-60mill. Didn’t make sense. And Arsenal were right to pull out.

      1. Thought Atletico’s option to buy and Torino’s bid are about the same at around 20m?

        Anyway, rumour has it that we may pull out of the loan deal and demand they buy him straight, now that we have triggered Partey’s release clause. It will be a good laugh if it happens

  21. Sneaky feeling that AM want us to take Lemar on loan too before they budge on Partey. Nothing more than a gut though, definitely no ITK!

    1. apparently there is not much ATM can do if a release clause they set is triggered. They can’t force another player on us certainly. If we stump up the money and agree personal terms, we get our guy.

      1. Thanks RSH. Does make you wonder why it’s taken so long if it was totally in our control. But all will be forgiven if there’s a Partey at Emirates this evening.

    2. Trudeau,

      I dont think Arsenal are even
      negotiating with AM atm. If
      the release cause is triggered and
      TP is satisfied with the terms of
      his wages then the Ghanian will
      be an Arsenal player.

      Perhaps it’s time for AFC to turn the
      tables on AM and fleece them on a
      loan deal for Lemar. It’s obvious they
      are desperate to part ways with the
      former Monaco man and the
      reported £15 loan fee was scoffed
      at by both BM & RBL. I’d personally
      rather have Benrahma from
      Brentford but perhaps could
      reignite his once promising career
      under MA in NL?

  22. No thanks to Lemar in any way, shape, or form. Pay the release clause for Partey and get our man. There is nothing AM can do to stop it, that’s why they insisted we pay the clause and no swap.
    Their needing to loan a player or roster in general is not our problem. Pay like they insisted, and let them scramble on deadline day.

  24. Arsenal: “Am following the deadline day updates feverishly (because I need a hobby or two),” writes Ravi Mani. “I was just wondering, with Gunnersaurus sadly leaving the club, could Mesut Ozil not take up the costume? He’s neither playing nor going anywhere.”

  25. Bellerin ? Gabriel tiernay
    Saka partey ceballos
    Pepe/willian/aube/laca/Martinelli

    Luiz is just too slow and accident prone for me and best 3 attacking options are still unclear but beginning to look more balanced and attack minded

  26. Two thoughts on the current transfer window.Our failure to unload certain players which has been hampered by injuries to be fair, is a reflection of costly errors of judgement made by well paid professionals who thankfully are no longer with the Club.Secondly, I have not seen a lot of Partey, but perhaps someone could enlighten me as to why another Club has not triggered his release clause?I appreciate cash is in short supply due to the knock on effect of the Pandemic but if he is as good as most Arsenal fans think he is, I would have expected other Clubs to show real interest in the player.

    1. I have the same question I have been asking about Partey but never got the logical answer from anyone. Why are we sending Torriera on loan to AM when they are not willing to show even a small bit of flexibility when it comes to Partey because I read a lot of teams were interested in taking Torreria on loan in Italy. Another mystery but let’s see we might get our answers when/if we sign him and deal details come out in open.

    2. If you look at the best clubs around Europe, most have their midfield pretty set and need to strengthen other areas.
      Alot of the really big teams, like RM , Juve etc havent signed anyone really

      Also it was reported that we agreed personal terms with him some weeks ago.
      My understanding is that once that was done his agents would have turned any other offers away, if there was any.

      For us to wait so late in the window i think was purely down to 1 thing and thats the wage bill, we are trimming it down, slowly

  28. Grandad, earlier in the transfer window, it was widely reported by very reliable outlets that TP’s only option for leaving AM was to join Arsenal, else he would remain in the Spanish capital. Remember Gabby’s transfer? Several teams had their bids accepted, some were even rumoured to have offered more in wages. But he chose us. Again, how many teams could afford the release clause with this pandemic? Very few in my view. And those few already are well stocked in their midfield departments, focusing instead on other areas. Finally, it has also been reliably reported that TP has been an Arsenal target since 2018. Probably we have been laying the groundwork for the transfer for quite some time. For Arsenal to trigger the release clause on the last day of the window, the management must have been confident that the player wants to join. I may be wrong, but that’s my take.

  31. I watch Thomas partey in his time at ATM,am not sven Mislinat or any arsenal player recruitment group,but he is a combative midfielder arsenal right now,he will improve our team,most arsenal fan talk about lack of creativity in the midfield,yes,we lack creativity,but if we have player/s who can win duels and tackle with Arteta philosophy and tactics,we will possess ball and easily translate passes to the final third players,if we do get TP, Arteta can bring ozil back into the squad,u will enjoy watching him and arsenal Will score a lot of goals.

  33. And the rumour mill goes into overdrive !

    “ Thomas Partey will now undergo a medical ahead of his transfer to Arsenal. “

  35. I have mentioned on some transfer updates that you never ever get excited about Arsenal targets until they are signed. Ozil, Xhaka and Auba have been the exceptions since the invincibles.

  36. Gaining legs by the minute.

    We may be on the verge of getting our man.

    Time is of the essence to get this one over the line.

    Why do we always have to go through this ?

    Answer – we can’t offload what we have.

  39. Sorry but we did really bad business this summer. Everybody played hardball with us and we folded each time.

    Aouar, he actually didn’t even want to come.

    offloading defenders: kola, mutafi, papa. nobody took them.

    Partey: we had to pay his full release clause and they would only take Torreira on loan. i don’t even think they have an obligation to buy

    Ozil, still here. costing us 350k per week. i want him gone.

    Gendouazi: even him we could not offload… free loan and last year contract when he will be back.

    its pretty shit no?

    1. No!!! Not bothered about Aouar!
      We’ve just bought a brick s**thouse.. worth every penny imo…
      If AM decide against buying LT after his loans ends, then someone else will!
      Deals do fall through you know…
      Nowt wrong with Guendouzi coming back…
      And look at who we have bought… my only wish is Ceballos could’ve been permanent!
      Some people are never satisfied…. just be happy with what we have! We’re so good to go!! COYG

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