To be fair to Arsene Wenger he could have said a lot more to wind up Jose Mourinho. The Arsenal and Chelsea managers have a long history of falling out, making comments about each other and their respective clubs and even pushing each other around on the touchline, even though they claimed that they had put all their differences aside before the last clash at Stamford Bridge.
A Daily Express report reveals that Wenger has had his own say on the recent diving debate, which has been in all the papers after Mourinho went off on a rant about a perceived campaign against his Chelsea players after Cesc Fabregas was booked for diving.
That decision was incorrect but many people have pointed out that Chelsea have also got away with a few dives and some of the cards given to his players for simulation this season were correct. And maybe that is what Wenger is thinking about when he calls for a panel to be set up and for players to be punished retrospectively, something I doubt that the Chelsea boss would be too keen on.
Wenger said, “I’m against diving. We should punish after the game.
“Should there be a panel? Yes – and punish only obvious cases, but not mixed ones. And the most suited to this are people who have an experience in the game.
“What you want is for a player to play with honesty, and to go for it. Once the players start to dive or not to dive, it makes it difficult for the referee.
“But the only way that the players will stop doing it, is if they feel they can get punished. Is it Arsenal, or Man United, or Liverpool or Chelsea, it is for everybody the same.”
And although you might think there is not much for Mourinho to take offence at there, the same could be said of the last time he lost the plot and called Wenger a specialist in failure. Mourinho seems to be able to take anything as a personal insult and I would not be surprised if the `paranoid one` thinks that Wenger is having a pop. But the Arsenal boss also admitted that our players have not always been snow white on this subject either.
He said, “Oh we had them, with Robert Pires, with Eduardo. It is down to the players. Even if you talk to the players, the guys who have that in them, they will do it in the game. It is just coincidence. It is a bit more down to the character of the players.”
However, I think it is clear that Chelsea would suffer a lot more than Arsenal if Wenger’s panel and punishment suggestions were to go ahead. So are we set for another overreaction from the mouthy one?
In tight situations, simulations can actually rescue. All the same, it should not be encouraged. This time, I agree with Arsene.
Exactly. It’s tough for the refs. Trying to limit contact to save yourself is different from simulation, but can be hard to figure out on the spot. Tough job. A panel seems overkill,but if it creates a goal scoring opportunity. Idk. How about instant replay. Refs to the monitors!
it’s hard not to agree with Wenger on this one. I am sure that most of the footy people do, but there is the Mourinho of always crying wolf everytime things get a bit though for him (or the bunch of primma donas that he coaches)…this is not a surprise, it was the same at Madrid, Inter and even Porto before that. I believe that Mourinho encourages this type of behavior and uses the press to plea his cases, something that he is very succesful in England, but didn’t work well for him in Italy and Spain….it almost feel as if the british press has some sort of special love with the portuguese, and some sort of free hatred of the Arsenal FC…disgusting
I lose respect for any player that dives… no matter how good he is.
Its the rematch wenger vs mourinho guys! Place your bets! Place your bets!
Happy new year all of u and bring saints tommorrow we will win hopefully coyg
I’m talking from the past. It’s still 2014 here.
I have 3 time zones to celebrate. Not 2015 yet 2 hours to go.
Diego costa is one of the biggest divers in the game! So mourinho should think before he opens his trap! Coyg!
For once i would like to see a game with the fully healthy arsenal 11 vs chelsea healthy 11
have we ever seen that, i can’t recall.
Lets not deceive ourself here Hazard, Fabregas and Costa would run rings around the likes of Mertesacker and Arteta ooh and don’t forget Drogba too
Football is one of the dirtiest sports from the top (Qatar/FIFA and bribery) to the players who cheat (ie diving, trying to get other players sent off, lying about balls going out of bounds off other players) To obscene salaries and transfer fees, to highest ticket prices for fans of a club that annually reach 4th place and win 1 trophy in a decade (I won’t mention the club: you will need to di your own research to find out which club I’m talking aboot)
Regardless, I still love football and Arsenal FC
If this general statement does rile Mourinho, then all that shows is an admittance to diving by Maureen and his gang. After all, if you didn’t have diving players you wouldn’t have anything to say on the matter in response.
Wenger is getting murked in the post match Chelsea interview tomorrow
It’s all good
Well for me the most important thing is winning a match and if gaining ur team a free kick or penalty helps that cause then so be it. Until the rules are changed by the governing bodies your players should do everything they can to win. It is up to the officials and authorities to stop it, if they don’t like it.
More importantly I don’t like imaginary cards being waved, that is cheap and does not gain advantage unless the ref is weak. That should be treated with a straight red for the imaginary waver.
Things have gone wrong; others have favoured us. We have quarrelled, and have reconcilled; we fell sick and became well. We’ve attended some burials (some for our friends and family). We’ve cried and laughed. We’ve lost and gained friends alike. Some gained admission into school, others graduated. Some have made mistakes and are rightly blamed for them, while some were blamed for another’s misdeeds. How many have been born, and how many have died? Some are still dreaming, while others have actualised theirs; yet others never had any dreams, they just slept, and may still be sleeping. Personally, this is the year I wrote my thesis, but life’s gone beyond thesis; life goes on, no matter what. Only once did the sun stand still, and it may not happen again.
Whatever be the case, there’s a hand-writing on the wall; there has to be. Go read it before it’s wiped out. There is always a lesson(s) to be learnt. So learn, learn, and learn, and put the knowledge to work.
There are two things keeping you from reaching your goal(s): time and you. But there is one ultimate goal that has no bearing on time: God. We should seek this goal like we gasp and pant for air.
We have made mistakes, but will now have time to amend. Do you have enemies? Make friends of them by loving them. Let’s take that drastic step towards becoming better, and helping others become better. It’s a long year we have ahead. Plan for it, but also take the days as they come, but let Jesus be the captain of your life. Then one thing is sure: your ship will never move off the track.
It may be a new year, but nothing is added to the days (same 24hrs). So, make you experience count. God is ever alive, so if you need life, then you need God.
Finally, it’s been a privilege having you guys around; meeting with those I met with, even those I’m yet to meet with. It’s a privilege breathing in the air you breathed out; sharing the same road with you; speaking the same language with you; making the same vows with you; seeing with the same light from the same sun; living on the same earth. It’s a privilege supporting the same team; playing against your team; and accessing the same web. However, this I can’t forget: it’s been an honour having and worshiping the same Father; saved by the same Saviour; vivified by the same Spirit; and having the same Mother of God as our Mother.
Thanks for being there, and happy and blissful New Year.
#it_can_only_be_better.
This an Arsenal FC forum, not some happy clappy Christian, do gooders excuse to post rubbish about a fairy tail god and a mythical bloke call jesus. All religion is a load of BS, only believed by the stupid or the weak.
Do NOT try to impose your medievil views on forward thinking, educated people.
Stick to Sunday school mate, you might find a better audience there.
You seem bitter. Say thank you and move on.
I am have Muslim friends and I an NOT religious, I have Christian friends and I am NOT religious.
I believe in science, but people are free to believe in whatever God they worship or whatever team they choose to support.
My only wish that that the Wenger Out folks die in hellfire. That was humor ; get it?
I’ll stick by what I said.
This is a forum for Arsenal supporters, not a platform to spout religious rhetoric, and no, I’m not bitter in the slightest, I just hate people trying to enforce their views on others.
If you want to preach, go and do it to a willing audience of similarly minded (stupid) people.
Mourinho is a c*unt.
All I care for is another three points tomorrow please.
P.s arsene sign us a cb and a dm thanks.
COYG!!!!!!
We have a DM; Le Coq. We need a centreback, but every team is searching for one, so it will be tight.
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE
We may all have different opinions about Manager, players, transfers, tactics, formations etc. But we all love Arsenal and we all want trophies
We all hope we can see Arteta lifting a trophy of some kind in 2015
No doubt the first question to moaniniho from the press will be
What do you think of wengers recent comments in regards to the diving issue in football?
Was wenger asked this to start with to stir up what is already a messy relationship between the 2 managers?
I hate the press, they are worse than school children, he said this and he thinks that, what do you think about hes comments? Omg really…… such pathetic journalism and reporting.
Hope we see a convinsing victory tomorrow as the last few havent been as such.
Coyg
Happy new year to all you gooners around the globe
Dont get me wrong I love the comments that come out from both managers at times, especially the intelligent ones from wenger that always owns moaniniho.
But i just see it as pathetic and childish questions being brought to managers during their interview.
Catfights sell newspapers; generates 1000s of web clicks.
Ok guys, tell me the most stupid transfer rumor you are willing to believe.
This is a typical Mourinho. Chelski have been dropping points lately, City are right behind. So create a diversion. A conspiracy theory: everyone hates Chelski (true), everyone hates Mourinho (true). Circle the wagons, coz everyone’s against us.
Strengthens team attitude, but also sends a warning to refs of future Chelski games (a typical Fergie tactic). Watch out if you book my players, or refuse to give penalties – coz this will just prove the conspiracy theory, and the BBC and newspapers will run with the story till the end of the season.
AW should try a new strategy: he should agree with everything Mourinho says – it will drive him up the wall.
COYG
Thank u lord 4 making me Graduate. Its by ur grace I did it, I can testify. To dat fact