Is it possible to convince Arsenal that Ivan Toney and Pedro Neto are not the forwards to lead them to the next level? Dean Jones, speaking to Give Me Sport, thinks not.
Last week, journalist Graeme Bailey disclosed that Arsenal scouts had watched the Wolves vs. Brentford Premier League match. That revelation may have piqued your interest, but Jones’ follow-up to it may pique your interest even more.
Jones explains that Arsenal was only watching the two to see how they were doing. He claims the Gunners are already convinced that Neto and Toney are players who, if signed, will propel them to the next level.
“It was an ideal fixture for them to take in those two players. Both of them have been on the radar over the past year, and it was an opportunity to check exactly where each player is at this stage of the season,” said Jones on GMS.
“To be honest, I think it’s beyond the stage of gauging how good either player is. Arsenal are totally convinced that either of them or both of them could work well at the Emirates. There are not really any doubts around that.”
I don’t think anyone would argue that the two forwards could significantly improve Arsenal. The argument should be on whether Arsenal can pull off this double Premier League raid. According to Football London, Neto may be available for £60 million, while Sports Lens believes Toney might be available for as little as £50 million.
Getting the two for around £110 million may be a transfer masterstroke that transforms Arsenal and take the Gunners up yet another level.
Do you agree?
Daniel O
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Neto. Yes But for less than that price
Tony. No. Not even for less than that price
Neto excites me but Toney less so. With Kai starting to
contribute in Jesus absence I would prefer a midfielder in
the mould of Patino or Nwanieri.. I have a feeling that this
team will put 3 or 4 goals past Porto tomorrow, making the return leg a breeze in a congested schedule ?
All unnecessary expenditure considering that we have a bunch of upcoming midfielders that need game time to develop. Promoting PATINO,GIVING MORE MINUTES TO NKETIAH AND VIERA will be great. Lets not forget BIE,ROWE ,NWANERI , LOKONGA AND MARQUINHOS ;if they are given room to develop AFC can dominate Europe for a decade.
Neto can barely play 20 matches without being being injured and availability is the best ability.Toney has too much of an ego to thrive in this young Arsenal squad.a better option uptop I think will be Sesko and on the wing Nico Williams
@Chuks, good observation. We could go in for Cisco or the Bologna striker whose name I am not getting. Also, how about Evan Fergusson of Brighton, he is very young and promising.
I feel we should sign either one of them and a defensive midfielder like Zibimendi or Douglas Louis. However, if funds are available to sign both Neto and Toney along with a DM, that would be great but a DM is a must to replace Partey. Also, funds permitting, a LB would be ideal to support or rotate with Kiwier as Zinchenko has defensive limitations. But a forward and a DM should be the priority.
Why are people asking for a LB yet we have Zenc,Timber, Kiwiow, Tomiyasu all capable and have played LB. – for both fullbacks i do not think we need an addition, unless its young player promoted from our reserve team.
Priority – DM to replace Partey, Stricker to replace Nkeita, tricky cover for Saka.
Sales will be – Ramsdale, Nkeita, Nelson,Lokonga, Tavares,Tieney & most likely ESR who needs game time.
No way we’ll sell 4 home grown players and only replace them with 1 (Ivan Toney).
I have been thinking also about “The Ramsdale situation”. IF (more likely WHEN) he goes in the summer, we will need a decent back-up for Raya? I haven’t seen any of the Academy youngsters in action to know.
A DM of the calbre of Zubimendi is critical to allow Declan Rice to play further forward to utilise his passing ability and range, as well as his ball retention in the final third.
In my opinion we need a striker that can finish. Trossard is probably our best finisher in the front, hence we are on a good run. I like Gimenez, a reasonable buyout around 50 million I think.
I like Zubimendi, but Onana has PL experience and good results, and can also play DM and B2B.
Questions are
1. How much available in Summer funds
2. How much can we get from sales
3. What positions Arteta fills with transfers
4. Versatility over specialists in their positions or not
This Summer I think will determine if we have the squad to challenge for PL and CL, or did we miss with subpar acquisitions and still come up short
Indeed Durand! Unquestionably we HAVE wasted badly needed funds on such as Viera, Lokonga, Tavares, and keeping such as Soares, Elneny around, all of whom cost wages
In total we hev spent a lot of money unwisely and that is the ONLY REAL criticism I have about MA.
Jon
I agree with much of your post. I have been very harsh towards Vieira, which I consider to be a wasteful transfer.
He is a disaster in central midfield as we have seen several times. He lacks the pace and too timid to cover for Saka on the RW, and his best position IMHO is a 10, but he is far far behind both Odegaard and ESR in competence.
That 34 million could have brought in a real RW cover for Saka, a better player than Lokagna,.
Every manager makes mistakes, and Vieira is a big one. Too timid in his play, frail and too small, and lacks the directness to take on opponents. Best to sell and recoup something to put towards this Summer’s business.
Onana is young,tough and injury prone like Partey too..signing him won’t make sense..Zubimendi is a smarter purchase and his injury record isn’t as bad as Onanas
👍Durand, I would also add that the players selected should have high “utilisation factors”, being able to stay fit and be available for selection.
Toney would score a fair amount of goals with all the chances we create And Neto looks a dangerous player so I would say yes they would improve Arsenal a great deal Ideally though we would want a younger striker with less baggage and a fitter winger to come in and be ready like a Trossard always is but there aren’t many forwards on the market that can improve us instantly and without being worth a king’s ransom As for the winger I think I wouldn’t gamble on Neto because injury susceptible players are a gamble because you never know when an injury might strike So, in short, I would take Toney and leave the more gifted Neto to someone else Liverpool got Jota for 45 to 50 mil I think it was so Toney should not exceed that Ideally, we’d find a young Neto in the making and a young RVP to spearhead this attack but we don’t have too many options
Neto is a fine player who unfortunately is prone to injury and in Tierney, Zinchenko and Jesus we already have players who fall into that category.We do not need another.As for Toney his acquisition would almost certainly lead to a major change in our attacking tactics, and, correct me if I am wrong, we seem to be doing rather sense well on the goalscoring front at the present time.I do not want us to become a long ball team like Brentford or Everton(who by the way we’re dreadful last night until the arrival of Onana”. By all means try and bring in another mobile, skilful striker, but steer clear of Toney .As for earlier comments suggesting we do not need a left back, we have muddled through without a natural left footed left back, thanks to the versatility of the left footed Kwior, and while the likes of Timber and Tomi can fill in in that position, they cannot produce much in an attacking sense as they are limited in what they can do on the weaker foot.Zinchenko of course has a lot to offer going forward but unfortunately he is very weak defensively.
I wouldn’t touch Neto with his injury record.
Toney will be way too expensive for someone not far off 30. I’d still take him as he’s a quality player with EPL experience, but he’ll likely end up at Chelsea.
Lautaro Martinez instead of Toney
Neto is good but I don’t think he’s better than Dwight McNeil. Injury wise I would take McNeil a consistent performer for Burnley before joining Everton and his at same age bracket with Neto.
McNeill a midfielder that can play center, right, left midfield same with Neto, but McNeil is ever present his that kind of ward-prose or Declan Rice Player the are always fit with less injury record.
McNeill for me all the way MA can make him a better player if given the chance to play in north London.
Well said. What made Liverpool so good was their best players were always fit. part of their drop off the past couple of seasons is because their players are getting older and aren’t available for 100% of matches anymore. Neto is great on his day but why go for a player that is guaranteed to be out 2-3 months at least next season? Same reason why when we signed Zinny I knew it wasn’t a longterm solution. Another player that every season will be out at least a couple months. Have to move these players along at some point and have top players that are available for the majority of a season. That is also what makes Saka, Rice, Gabriel, Havertz have value. These guys are never picking up injuries. And if they do they’re back in a week tops.
Why does anyone want Neto? We see enough people on here going after Jesus and Partey being constantly injured and now want to bring in another?