Ivan Toney price drop, is it worth it?
It’s no secret that Arsenal was looking into bringing in Ivan Toney and in the summer it was clear that Brentford were looking for at least 100 million for the English striker. Since then, Arsenal’s interest seemed to have cooled off and although he is a well sought after striker, interest from other clubs seems to have cooled off also. With that, it’s being reported that the price of the striker has dropped and almost halved to around 40-50 million.
With that big price drop, does that mean Arsenal will go back in for the striker and show interest? Maybe. He is a great player and knows exactly how to find the back of the net, and with him already being accustomed to the Premier League, it does make the transition stage easier. He could fit in well in this already thriving team and make us a more potent team when going forward.
Coupled with the fact that he could be used to help ease the pressure on Gabriel Jesus, he would give us two dynamic strikers at our disposal. With all the injury issues that Jesus has faced, it gives us a great back up who will no doubt score a lot of goals, and with the squad we already have, I think he would fit in seamlessly into the system Arteta has been able to build in the past few months.
But, having said that, I personally don’t think Toney is good enough for the levels we are trying to get to and have got to in the past few seasons. I think we need to invest in a younger, upcoming striker for the future. Toney isn’t old, at 28-years-old he’s killing it and still has plenty of years left in him, but for me, I think we should splash out on a striker that is going to give us at least 5 good seasons and will continue to improve and get better.
When you look at the options for a striker these days, pickings are slim. There’s only a few out and out strikers available on the market and they don’t come cheap, but if we can invest in someone who’s young and fits the criteria that Arteta and the club are looking for, I think it’s a win-win.
Yes, that comes with its own risks and means we would probably have to be patient with whoever we buy, but I do think it will be worth it in the long run. Toney is reportedly cheap now but he also comes with a lot of baggage and a lot of ego and for me, I just don’t think he will work well under a manager like Arteta with that type of attitude.
What’s your thoughts Gooners?
Daisy Mae
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Neiter do I, I want Viktor Gyökeres. That would be something to make Arsenal take the next step. The big title winner step.
If “…pickings are slim. There’s only a few out and out strikers available on the market…” and you’re one of the clubs that can afford such a player, and you need such a player, and such a player is willing to come to you, would it not be a bit mad not to capitalise on the situation? Arsenal have spent 20 years not winning the title “Developing talent” and to win the Premier League also requires top quality players to be purchased to complement the ones that were developed in-house. Arsenal would not be sitting in top-spot right now without the quality and experience that was purchased recently.
The bottomk line is that I agrree with the writer. I havew sais for quoits some time now that I do not see us even trying to sign Toney, baes onhis age (soon to be 29 and olderthan ideal for a striker) But alos because his pric was rumoure to be around£80 millor more. IF, and I think it a big IF, his price were to drop to less than £50mill, then and only then and despite his age, I could at least envisage the POSSIBILITY of us trying for him.
But even then I think it unlikely at best and I expect us to seek a far younger striker who is still on the up.
Toney is good admittedly, but surely we need BETTER THAN MERELY GOOD?
I suggest we will get SOMEONE who IS better than merely good!!
Which is also the reason I believe that JESUS WILL NOT BE HERE FOR LONG, as he is merely good, but only WHENEVER FIT!!
agreed, we already have ‘good’, for the money we need a massive upgrade to ‘prolific clinical elite’ striker, that Toney is not, and by a very long way
quite frankly the ‘traditional striker’ is a thing of the past, football has moved on, focal point target man is just too easy to defend against and outdated, even Haarland (by a very long way the best genuine striker out there) has been found out and the clumsy ‘league 2’ call quite accurate that all XI need to defend as team (out of possession) and progess play in transition (in possession), Ivan Toney is nowhere near any of the three (prolific scorer, high-press, assist king)
Ivan Toney is so not an Arsenal player
just dinosaurs who blame every non victory on a striker
I don’t know about ‘attitude’, but Toney certainly has ‘baggage’, and you also have to question why the massive drop in price, and CaughtOffside are quoting £30million. If this keeps up he’ll soon be going on a free.
😂
only 25 non-pen PL goals in 3 seasons (81 games)
that is not ‘clinical elite striker’ stats, nowhere near
nothing more to discuss
Quite damning stats, assuming they are true!. And I have little doubt you have checked they are accurate.
I AM NEARLY CERTAIN THAT TONEY WILL NOT BE COMING HERE.
If his price had been, as it once was rumoured to be, close to £80 plus million, then I would have been absolutely certain,, rather than nearly certain.
stats from PL own website
if not a ‘clinical elite striker’, which Toney is not, then price is irrelevant
remember always that for this mythical score every game striker to play someone else has to be dropped – who exactly is that such that we are a materially better team?
for me Toney does not get in to our current starting XI, by some distance too, at best a ‘super-sub’ when desperate…hmm, not sure Toney wants that role nor does the price tag (forget this £30m click bait non-sense, as if Brentford would sell for that when Arsenal want €50m for Nketiah!)
Where are these 20 to 25 year old strikers who have the ability to score 20 odd goals a season at the high level of the Premiership ??? Sure Man City found one but had to pay big money to secure him.
Give Toney a three year contract maximum with a high buy out clause. Pay a maximum of 50 mill for him. Toney will score goals for Arsenal with the many assists he will get. You can then move out our two non scoring centre forwards and possibly recover the 50 mill you spent. I am sure Artetta can handle any disciplinary problems that might arise.
oh JRS…
yes Man C found one, Haarland, a freak of nature, potentially the greatest striker ever
yet still he has his weaknesses, the clumsy ‘league 2’ call was actually quite insightful, in that Haarland is a one-dimensional striker, he offers nothing else but converting goals, out-of-possession offers no press, no tackles, no interceptions, no assists – playing with 10 men
that would never cut it in Arteta football, and rightly so
so take non-Haarland freak of nature strikers who are a fraction of him, e.g. Ivan Toney, and they are just not fitting with the modern brand of Arteta football and just do not make it the starting XI, nowhere near
Arsenal are the top scorers in the PL
goals are not a problem for Arsenal
Arsenal are the lowest goals conceded in the PL
I fear by disrupting, i.e. dropping someone from our current XI (and assume everyone means Havertz) for an Ivan Toney that Arsenal are a weaker defensive unit
think about it, it does not add up
City actually paid “only” £51 mill for Haaland. This season he is , but only by a whisker, the highest Prem scorer. but other than score, then City play with ten men and a goal hanger.
When he does not score, what use is he?
Not overmuch I reckon and I AGREE THEGAME HAS MOVED AWAY FROM A BIG LUMP UP FRONT into more all round players as strikers, who are mobile and help team play.
To my mind Kane is the best in world football and by a very long way as he does an all round job and does it brilliantly.
sure, but he is old now, and no way coming to Arsenal
other Harry Kane’s in football today = zero
it is a fantasy
this only comes up when Arsenal doesn;t win, i.e. some idealistic fantasy a new striker will score every game, regrettably reality is somewhat different, £100m spent or otherwise
Just to set the record straight on age Ivan Toney is 28 years old wheras Harry Kane the current England centre forward is 30 so do you feel he is over the hill?
Toney has a minimum of 3 years left at a high level.
That is all we need.
Ivan Toney has 25 non-pen PL goals in 81 matches over 3 PL season – he is not a prolific clinical elite striker, that is clear, and nowhere near Harry Kane
takes Arsenal backwards, not forwards
JRS, you may well think three years is all we need, . which is itself an assunption based on nothing at all save his presert age, but I cannot see our”esteemed” owner being willing to fork out the sort of wages Toney would want and still pay a high fee with no sell on value for a not that special striker.
You see JRS, I choose to think through all angles before I post and I am willing to bet you or anyone else that Toney will NOT be an Arsenal player next August.
He is undoubtedly a good player but I SUGGEST THAT FOR HIGHLY DYNAMIC MA, in his successful quest to improve our squad year on year, he is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Any so called striker we DO bring in this summer will be younger, more mobile and an all round linking player, but also a clinical finisher.
One I personally like is Isak of Newcastle. I would not rule HIM out of coming here. He is the type that MA will look for IMO, and not Toney!
Agree 100%
Isak scored two more yesterday.
…and not to overlook the Chido goal machine
and Biereth
i would give those two a go
explosive Plan C off the bench
I say Plan C because our Plan A current XI is working very very well (e.g. top scorers in the PL)
Plan B is Trossard
so it is Plan C should A and B not got us there, e.g. against the XI behind the ball ultra-low-block
they can interchange in and out of the match day squad getting minutes in the various youth teams to keep them sharp
and £100m in the pocket for the midfield rebuild when Partey, Jorginho and Elneny go and need replacing
and an elite winger, preferably right sided to give us options for Saka
We should look to the academy and blood them in. So much talent there for free. Patino should stay too.