If PSG hijack Torreira deal, could N’Zonzi be the back-up plan?

The original reason for the delay of Lucas Torreira to Arsenal was said to be that we were waiting to announce after the World Cup, but it has since been revealed that the talks are nowhere near completion, and with the Uruguayan’s performances at the World Cup making him an even hotter property than he was before, there are sure to be other offers forthcoming. The latest rumours are saying that even moneybags PSG are now showing interest in which case we will probably be outbid easily.

But surely Arsenal won’t have put all their eggs in one basket and will be looking at other targets for his postion, and one favourite must be Emery’s old midfielder at Sevilla, Steven N’Zonzi. The ex-Stoke man was made into a world-beater under Emery and he said before joining France at the World Cup: “I am feeling very good at Seville but they are not the biggest club in Europe,”

“Playing with high profile players in a big team could be a good progression for me. We all know that the transfer window is open but we don’t talk about it that much.

“There is a big tournament coming up and changing teams is not the main worry in the group.”

Right now we are currently recruiting highly experienced winners to get us back into the Top Four so N’Zonzi’s age shouldn’t be a problem. No one can deny that we desperately need someone like him so, if Torreira gets hijacked, why shouldn’t we go for the man with extensive Premier League experience?



  1. Sue says:

    I will be devastated if Torreria does end up at PSG… I don’t want to have to settle for Nzonzi… I don’t want him
    Torreira is 22 & gets better every time I see him! We really need to get the deal done!

    1. kev says:

      The deal is done.He joins after World Cup.He actually likes Arsenal so people shouldn’t be worried.
      Gelson Martins talks on going.Disappointed in this move tbh.

      1. Michael says:

        To be honest Mr Kev, Mr. Admin has a beef with you. This is yet another article trying to undermine you over your ” DONE DEAL” for Torreria.

        Not to worry Mr. Kev am with you 100% and since Wenger left you’re the one reason I visit this site.
        Before Wenger left, Mr. Jon Fox was the reason I visit this site.

        1. Sue says:

          I hope you’re right Kev! I’ll be buzzing when it’s on Arsenal.com ?

          1. kev says:

            I’ve seen some fans elsewhere wish for a Uruguay knockout so that he can finally sign.Laughable really.
            The deal is done don’t worry.Never trust me just look at the truth always.

          2. Freethinker says:

            I wish for a Uruguay knockout myself.
            But it’s because Suarez is the most despicable player I’ve ever watched.

            I prefer NZonzi, but only if he’s much cheaper. If we sign Torreira, i feel a new proper winger is out of the question…

          3. Alkali says:

            I hope for your sake he does sign for arsenal or else you will be termed a liar.

        2. jon fox says:

          Michael you are charmingly polite. I doubt ANY OF US deserve it though. But good manners always get noticed and applauded.

    2. Fab says:

      Arsenal as always, alot of hesitation. This club is King of showing interest to quality players with no end products. List of players who came close to joining us in recent years: Klyan Mbappe, Eden Hazard, Luis Suarez, Ngolo Kante, Lukaku, Cess Fabrigas (return), etc but none has signed.

      1. Enagic says:

        That was wenger and is not here any more – because when he was around he tried to do everything by himself and it did backfire on him big time

        1. Freethinker says:

          Suarez, Mbappe, and Hazard wouldn’t have joined anyway. Do you think budget used to be bigger when our income was lower??


          A part of me will be praying the new manager fails, so I can laugh at the Wenger-out brigade.

          1. Phil says:

            Well doesn’t that just make you such a true Arsenal fan.Wanting the manager to fail? And I suppose Wenger was such a success over this last decade wasn’t he?There are words that frankly would be wasted on you so I won’t bother.But remember this-Arsenal Wenger was responsible for a lot of success in the early part of his career as Manager of Arsenal Football Club.He was also criminally responsible for overseeing the biggest fan revolt and division of any club in Premiership history.He was SACKED for his negligence and rightly so.
            Mr Emery has a job that will be hard enough without “supporters” like you on his back before the season has started.And WHO IS THE FOOL?

          2. Ozziegunner says:

            Exactly Phil, what Arsenal fan will not face up to the fact that Arsene Wenger has gone and now support the Arsenal into the future under Unai Emery?
            Arsenal needs true supporters regardless of who the coach/manager is. The club is Arsenal FC not Arsene FC.

          3. benchmark says:

            Freethinkers, you think like a wishthinker, you aren’t a true gunner

        2. Ken1945 says:

          Enagic, you are right, he isn’t here anymore, so why are we in the same situation?
          You cannot blame the ex manager anymore, so who is to blame now?
          If we have signed him and it’s a done deal why can’t we announce it?
          We’ve apparently paid £5,000,000 more than the release clause, so what are the club playing at?
          I personally think that we have signed him, but why does our club ALWAYS make a mountain out of a molehill?
          I guess it’s Ozils fault, or maybe it’s still the master of all things wrong with the club A.W. ?

          1. jon fox says:

            Ken , Surely you of all people , realise much of the hype is way beyond the clubs control or their fault either. THERE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A MOUNTAIN OF RUMOURS OF WHO IS IN AND WHO IS OUT. THAT WAS INEVITABLE WITH THE CHANGE OF MANAGER AND SET UP TO STOP ANY NEW MANAGEWR/ HEAD COACH EVER AGAIN HAVING Wengers total control. I , for one, propose to give the club my full support and in particular Emery, until such time,which hopefully will never arrive, that he has proved himself not good enough. To blame him now, before he has managed even one game for us is , frankly, ludicrous. And worse than that , it is unfair too. Even worse than THAT too(at least in one respect) is that it is unintelligent.

          2. Ozziegunner says:

            Ken, I am disappointed in your comments this time around. People are so willing to criticize Unai Emery, Sven and Raul before a ball is even kicked in the new season. Can’t we at least give “the trinity” a full season until the knives come out? After all Arsene Wenger was supported through many trophy less seasons.

          3. Ken1945 says:

            Ozziegunner, I would ask you the same questions I have asked Jon
            Having re-read my post again and again, I cannot see where I have criticized Emery at all.
            As Jon is now on holiday., can I ask you to identify the quotes in question please?
            My stance has always been that I support the club and not an individual.
            I have said many times on here that I want Emery to be the most successful manager ever.
            I look forward to your reply and pose you a question as well….. if someone wants Emery to fail, is that any different to someone who wanted Arsenal to lose every single game until Wenger left, including cup finals and semi finals?

          4. Ken1945 says:

            Freethinker just read your comments and, in actual fact., we were told that there wasn’t a budget!!
            There were only two players we couldn’t afford, but Wenger wouldn’t spend the money… remember that message sent out to the supporters?
            Now we are reportedly having to work around a MAXIMUM budget of 70,000,000!!
            Why is no-one questioning this?
            While I could never want the club to fail, the silence is deafening when faced with the suggestion that some supporters were taken in over the Wenger situation and this farcical transfer saga is one of them!

          5. Ken1945 says:

            Jon, you are very quick to denounce those who misquote your posts, so I suggest you read mine again.
            Then show me where firstly I blame our new manager for anything negative?
            Secondly show me where I have stated that I will not give the new manager and the club my total support?
            I find your insinuations both LUDICROUS and MISLEADING!
            Did you actually read it?
            Again,if it was Wenger who had total control, why are we still finding ourselves in this ludicrous transfer situation?

          6. Durand says:

            Ken my friend, the “reported” £70 million budget is impossible to verify, and no way of knowing how much is available.

            Secondly, Arsenal spent over £100 million on 2 strikers in one financial year, that’s a drag on funds available this Summer.

            You are intelligent, do your research, and apply facts to your comments. I respect you for such, tho we disagree from time to time.

            I’m sure you were already aware of everything i typed, and already know the answer to your question, …”why is no one questioning this?”

            Laca and Auba cost over £100 million to clean up Walcott and Giroud mess as strikers.
            Another £70 million rumored would be massive spending for this club. There were some sales, but Coq, Walcott, and Giroud would not cover Laca or Auba transfer cost.

            More to the story still, but you see my point and what I’m trying to convey.

          7. Ken1945 says:

            Durand my friend, nice to debate with you again.
            With reference to your remarks about research and facts let’s get down to the nitty gritty!
            PLAYERS IN 17/18
            Lacs for 46,500,000
            Macro 2,200,000
            Auba. 56,000,000
            Leno. 19,300,000
            Total = 124,000,000
            PLAYERS OUT 17)18
            Hinds 2,000,000
            Szczny 10,000,000
            Toral 3,000,000
            Gibbs 7,000,000
            The Ox 35,000,000
            Coq 12,000,000
            Walcott 20,000,000
            Giroud 18,000,000
            Gabriel Undisclosed
            Halem Undisclosed
            Total 107,000,000

            If you are willing to take the two undisclosed as 17,000,000 (fair I suggest) that means over the same period our transfer in and out are exactly the same.

            Now, during this period we were told that money was no problem if only our ex manager would spend it!!!!
            Intelligence shouldn’t come in to it and that is why I keep trying to get supporters to question what is going on at the club.
            We shouldn’t even be discussing a’reported’ transfer kitty, because we should have an unlimited transfer budget
            If it was the case under our ex manager why should it not apply to our new manager?
            Hope you see the point I am trying to make.

          8. Durand says:

            Ken well stated post as usual my friend. I applaud the fees you listed to reinforce your point.

            I do see and agree with your point, however i would add this. Its not so cut and dried as you listed. Gabriel left for £10 million by the way.

            For example, club offered £30 million for Torreria; 3 separate payments of £10 million over 3 years. Arsenal paid more for inconvenience to Sampdoria.
            I’m sure other players purchased in similar fashion ( as financial records list current payments) and players sold under similar terms.

            Unfortunately, Arsenal don’t show their hand, hence i doubt £50 or £70 million figure thrown around. If Mustafi sold for £20.million, do we now have £90 million available?

            I doubt ownership sees it that way, but i don’t know. I’m merely trying to make sense of it all myself. But economics has been my thing last 27 years, that’s why I try to explain, and take business financial forecasts into account.

            As for ex manager, the frustrations stemmed from him having predetermined and arbitrary transfer value based on God knows what.

            Well documented his passing over deals because he thought agent fees too much, valuation too high, etc… I even saw where Wenger passed on Mbappe at 17 yrs old b/c Mbappe family and agent wanted £7 million fee. Not sure the truth to this, but Wenger himself said he went to kids house and spoke to his family. Mbappe has spoken well of Wenger also, but no deal. Why? Only Wenger and Mbappe know.

          9. Durand says:

            Sorry almost forgot that forgettable dope Sir Chips. It was that idiot who said “…Arsenal can buy anyone except Messi and Ronaldo…”

            I believe during a supporters forum, and maybe after he lost his temper and shot back at a fan. Not for sure except it definitely was that nincompoop Sir Chips.

            I’m certain because Wenger bought players, and I thought it strange that a silent board member without power is making transfer claims.

          10. Ozziegunner says:


          11. Ken1945 says:

            Durand, thanks for the reply and I agree wholeheartedly that everything is not as simple as it seems.
            Our club has ALWAYS been secretive where money is concerned, so we have to use what is available for discussions.
            I have just read the Mbappe piece from the Express and, once again there is a play on words that are very subtle but will cause derision regarding our ex manager.
            The article says Wenger wouldn’t pay the£7,000,000, but read further and it is the club (owner and or board) who wouldn’t sanction the deal.
            The Griezmann debacle comes to mind again and I firmly believe that Gazidis was screwing Wenger for a while.
            That doesn’t mean it wasn’t time for Wenger to go by the way.
            I find your views about Wenger’s valuation of a player strange however… if he was in complete control over everything Arsenal, then his terms and conditions should surprise no-one!
            Unless of course there were restrictions from above!!!
            Really cannot wait for the autobiography to come out so that the fanbase can judge for themselves.

          12. Ken1945 says:

            By the way Durand, I should have asked you if you know agree that the club transfer dealings have been a drag on funds as you stated?
            Or do you agree with my thoughts that we, the supporters, are and have been, brainwashed into believing that the owner and board have suddenly become everything that our ex manager was not.
            My hope is that Emery will not be used as a shield to hide what is happening and that he stands up for what he believes in.
            I believe he will and bring the club success DESPITE the owner and board.

          13. Durand says:

            Ken my feelings on the financials regarding Arsenal (basically Kronke) and transfers hasn’t appeared to be “catalyst” except change in decision making, not spending.

            £100 million is big money, but minus Giroud, Walcott, Ox, its about £35 million or so, about what Sanchez was.

            Its clearing out “deadwood” and upgrading finally. Slight of hand magic trick. Don’t forget club actually made money last Summer, right?

            So sometimes it seems big money is being spent, but same old in terms of amount spent. No significant net spending increase, no £100 million window.

            Upgrading deckchairs really, better quality.

          14. Durand says:

            I am of the same mind, but i won’t blame either Wenger or Ivan b/c neither I nor anyone knows except Wenger, Ivan, and Mbappe.

            Hence my comment “not sure the truth to this” regarding how that meeting played out. Trivial, but still subtle difference,

      2. Angus says:

        Suarez was 100% interested in coming Liverpool messed about and Gerrard talked Suarez of the ledge otherwise Liverpool would of been in court without a leg to stand on. Mbappe has HIMSELF publically stated he considered Arsenal last year but ultimately PSG was too good to turn down, he had no reason to say that unless that was his other option. Hazard would of easily signed our stock was still high then we simply could not afford to match Chelsea. Find it weird Hazard was added as we never went after him because we’d already lost to Chelsea. Kante never was close to joining us at all ever where did that one come from. Wenger would of had Kante post Leicester but he wanted to go Chelsea. We scouted him pre-leicester but there isn’t a semi-talented player in europe that isn’t scouted by every big team. Lukaku? Chelsea paid way over the odds for him way back when they bought him and never played him for 3 years :/ what nonsense is this? Fabregas got rightly rejected by us no interest at all.

      3. DDK3 says:

        We are not the only clubs that were interested in the above players and failed. It is totally unfair to place the blame on Wenger for our failure to get them.

        Chances are very good that the players mentioned were primarily interested in Arsenal because of Wenger and his style of play and that we didn’t get them as a result of our inability to compete financially with the clubs they ended up in (PSG, Chelsea, Barcelona etc.)

        One also can’t chastise him for the players he didn’t get and then conveniently forget about those that he did bring in. Often clubs miss out on plan A and have to revert to plan B, or they pay the inflated money and in many cases it backfires (Falcao, Torres, Cuadrado, Sanchez, half of Man City signings etc.)

        You assess the market value of a player and you make a fair offer that is aligned with your existing wage structure. The problem is that when you target champions league caliber players, that you are not the only one targeting them and when you can’t offer better money or CL league then you lose that arm wrestle 9 out of 10 times.

        At least we are at the races and occasionally circumstances play in our favour (eg. Auba and Mkhi).

        1. Ken1945 says:

          DDK3, that is the point I am trying to make as well.
          Why, because we question what is going on now and previously are we seen as not supporting the club?
          Where is the logic in that kind of thinking?
          You sound like a true gooner and I am certain you want Emery to succeed as much as I do.
          I can see another ridiculous division soon appearing where, if you question anything, you will be given a nonsensical abbreviated tag.

  2. kev says:

    Where all this coming from?I thought people said when a deal is done it can’t be hijacked?Why then are you afraid?I’m sure most of you were saying at home that Torreira to Arsenal is a done deal.Please don’t contradict yourselves.
    Didn’t the Sampdoria president confirm it was a done deal?Can a done deal be hijacked?If No as you people say then why are some of you afraid?

    By the way Lucas Torreira to Arsenal is a done deal 100%.He will join after the World Cup.
    I repeat that we are in for Gelson Martins and the talks are positive.Its looking likely should the player opt for England Arsenal will be his destination.Im disappointed because he’s an average player.

    1. stubill says:

      It’s you that keeps coming on here saying deals are done, when they clearly aren’t.

      A deal is never “done” until all concerned have signed on the dotted line, until that point either party can pull out.

      A deal in principle is a very different thing. So unless the it’s signed off, the deal isn’t done, its very simple really.

      1. kev says:

        Then why are people worried about Torreira not coming here?Didnt Sampdoria president in an indirect way say the deal is done?
        I’m only using their logic.Why be afraid if indeed the deal is done?I use “done deal” in the context of the deal being required to transfer the player to us as complete.A deal in football involves terms so if all terms are agreed to I don’t see why I can’t say done deal.It doesn’t have only one meaning.

        1. Declan says:

          No kev the Sampdoria president said Torreira is gone, meaning he won’t be playing in his team anymore. What he didn’t say was where he was going, because he doesn’t know yet, his head has been turned and the truth is he’s going somewhere but not decided yet. As everyone keeps pointing out, a done deal means the only thing to be finalised is the announcement. Done means signed sealed and no backing out.

          1. kev says:

            I get your point your point but what I’m saying is “done deal” can be used in different contexts. e.g “DONE DEAL ARSENAL WILL SIGN ALEXIS SANCHEZ” or “DONE DEAL ARSENAL SIGN ALEXIS SANCHEZ.Both of the above are true and even you won’t deny that.
            Go and look at the Sampdoria’s presidents comment very well.He said they gambled on him and they are going to get €30m for a player they signed for £3m or so if I remember correctly.His release clause is €25m but we decided to €30m in instalments.Clearly he was speaking about Arsenal.
            Also sold = DONE DEAL!!!

          2. Admin says:


          3. kev says:

            He said they are selling him for €30m so he was talking about us.

          4. Admin says:

            And if PSG offer 40?????

          5. hardave says:

            Acoording to kev logic they will still sell to Arsenal because it’s a done deal.

          6. kev says:

            Why are you making this hard for yourself.I won’t waste my time explaining the transfer of a player that has been sold i.e all terms to sign him have been agreed.Believe what you want you have your own freedom.

      2. kev says:

        I asked a question last time but noone answered me.I said when we were going to sign Ozil Wenger said he was called by the PSG president who asked if the deal was done and Wenger told him yes and pleaded with him not to touch the deal.Now if the deal is done why then does Wenger go on to plead with the president not to touch it?It’s because Wenger used “done deal” in the context of all terms and conditions involved in the deal have been agreed to in which case another club can do the same and bring a higher offer.
        Words are used in different contexts so I don’t get what all the fuss is about.

        1. Declan says:

          The fuss is about the context. What you describe is an agreement between the buying club and the player. No deal is “done” until all parties have signed, as so many others have told you. We all appreciate your input but for effs sake stop saying it’s done when it’s not done. Gedditt now?

          1. kev says:

            I understand where you’re all coming from but I’m saying “DONE DEAL” can and has been used in different contexts by many.Lets be honest.I’m I wrong in saying “DONE DEAL LUCAS TORREIRA WILL SIGN FOR €30M”?

          2. hardave says:

            Wrong. Because it’s misleading.

        2. stubill says:

          Because for those naive enough to believe what you say,you mislead them. Why not just say the deal is agreed.

          1. kev says:

            Stop calling other naive.I don’t beg them to believe me.I do my research and I separate the chaff from the truth and report it here.Its such a shame how some people react but in this world not everyone must like what you do so I see all this as normal.

          2. Marty says:

            I won’t believe this deal until it is announced on the official Arsenal website. If as you say the deal is done then why on earth not announce it officially. Until that happens presumably not everything is done and any club can come in and sign the player. It doesn’t matter about verbal agreements, until all parties sign the transfer forms it is not a done deal.

      3. jon fox says:

        Stubil , You have correctly stated the true meaning of a done deal. But Kev will not be told. I tried on another thread, just yesterday and he still argued back. If you don’t know what a done deal is you -or rather, HIM, will lose all credibility as to being in the know. He is clearly NOT in the know and it is disappointing to see some naive fans believe his nonsense. When a deal is TRULY DONE it is announced. The reason Toreira has not been announced is because the deal is not done. You know it, I know it and most others know it too. This really is like explaining the alphabet to a five year old. Sigh!

        1. Xxnofx says:

          Kev , you Also said jack had signed for the Turkish club , that’s not true .you even said the weekly wage and the contract length.Done deal .
          You also said that arteta was our new manager .done deal .
          You said Fellini was joining us ,done deal .theres loads more in the past but I won’t get into them .
          The thing there are fans on here who believe you and they get all excited just to be let down ,because you’ve read abit of gossip on the internet .why don’t you just say we mite be signing this player or that player without the whole done deal weekly wage contract length because 95 % of the time your completely wrong

    2. TongaBull says:

      maybe we are in for him cos he comes Free.l I hv never watched him but i think he is not a world beater cos he didnt even feature for Portugal in Russia. Was

    3. gotanidea says:

      I hope you are right man, because I am not impressed by N’zonzi’s performance in World Cup. Maybe he didn’t put his best effort because France already qualified from the group phase at that time

      If Torreira should be replaced, the replcament should be Carvalho. At least he is free and still younger than N’zonzi

      Gelson Martins could be Bellerin’s competitor in the back, if he doesn’t perform well as a right winger. If Arsenal can sell more players, they would have more funds to buy better right winger

      1. Break-on-through says:

        Carvalho is too slow, he’s big and robust but the better technicians would dance around the guy. CM for me needs to have plenty of stamina, they have more criteria to fill than any other position. Maybe he’ll go to Liv or somewhere and prove me wrong, but the best teams often have smaller players in CM or taller ones that don’t play like your average hefty dude.

      2. kev says:

        Nzonzi was good but never that good.You’ll value something you don’t have and when you get it you’d realize it’s normal.

        1. Durand says:

          Yup yup. Ramsey

          1. RSH says:

            that didnt make sense

          2. Durand says:

            Arsenal (Wenger) worried sir Alex and utd or others would get Ramsey before he signed for Arsenal.

            10 years later, Ramey bang average, how many clubs have bid for him so far?

            Hence you value something then get it and realize its normal or bang average.

            Make sense now?

          3. ACE says:

            Arsenals fans delirium over Ramsey
            negotiating a new contract is still quite
            confounding to me. Other than 2 decent
            campaigns, the Welshman has been
            bang on average the majority of his injury
            riddled Arsenal career.

            A speculated $200K a week for his future
            service in the midfield is an absurd
            piece of business by AFC.

            There are better players out there

          4. Ozziegunner says:


          5. RSH says:

            we paid what, 5mill for him? Even if you adjusted that for todays market it’s still not that much and we’ve won trophies with him/because of him, and he’s a solid starter. Was never tipped to be world class at any point. Surely worth the money we paid for him

          6. Durand says:

            RSH i agree £5 million worth a punt.

            200k per week for 34 goals and 40 assists over 10 years is madness to offer Ramsey. About as foolish as 180k per week for Ox.

          7. Ken1945 says:

            Durand my friend, can you tell me how many clubs have bid for Messi lately?
            If the new manager thinks he is worth building the team around I am more than happy to see him sign the new contract on offer.

          8. Durand says:

            Ken ha ha ha. Messi? Really?

            I’ll answer your foolish comparison for fun.

            Messi on over £800k per WEEK! How’s that?
            Buyout clause probably £500 million! How’s that?

            Messi rules Barcelona, winning La Liga and CL every other year. How’s that?

            What has Ramsey done? Ever? Couple FA cups, 0 titles, 0 CL league, 0 quarterfinals in CL.

            People will Remember Messi for GENERATIONS!

            Welsh will forget Ramsey 10 years after he retires.

            Ken my friend no one bids for Messi “Godfather” because only Real Madrid can pay wages, win CL like Barca, and RM already have some dude named Ronaldo or something like that.

            Thanks for the laugh tho, really. I’m sure Barca going to be in for Ramsey any day now, ha. Either Barca or Swansea City

          9. Ken1945 says:

            Durand, it was intended to be funny, sorry if you thought I was being serious.
            Now then, what about the serious question regarding Emery’s view of Ramsey?
            Really would like to know your views.

          10. Durand says:

            Ken I personally love Ramsey’s work rate and effort, he’s tireless. His lack of discipline, unnecessary flicks, inability to dribble opponents, and inconsistency overload all else.

            10 years and he’s still the same; at 27, at 25, at 21. Maybe Emery can polish and shine him up. Personally Aaron and Jack much the same to me. Average players, rotation guys, role players, not keystones or lynchpins at a club

    4. Goonerboy says:

      If we dont sign any other player, we need to sign Torriera, he is what we need, am starting to get bothered with reports liinking him away and my only hope is the Sampdoria President’s confirmation that he has sold already

      1. Goonerboy says:

        Been sold*

  3. Dion says:

    might want to keep an eye on the Vazquez deal…it’s gathering pace esp from marca (LA liga sky)…fingers crossed.

    1. kev says:

      The interest in concrete.The problem is wont he command a high fee?

    2. gotanidea says:

      Rather than having Vazquez or Martins, I prefer Adama Traore, if Arsenal really want another right-footed winger. Could be available at cheaper price than Vazquez

      I wish they are in for Bailey or Malcom

      1. kev says:

        All are massively overrated because of decent dribbling.I don’t know much about Leon Bailey but if he has end product then we should sign him.
        If we are going for a youngster with dribbling without end product then why not give Mavidid a chance?
        We are just about to buy what we already have.It doesn’t make sense and I know most here don’t rate him.

        1. ACE says:

          Bailey was one of the best attacking players
          in the Bundesliga at the ripe ol age of 20.
          Pace, technical acumen and a heavenly left

          IMHO he is a future futbol SUPERSTAR

  4. Break-on-through says:

    If Verratti leaves I don’t think they could find a more apt replacement than Torriera. Would PSG like two of similarly styled, sized, paced, players. I hope it’s all done already and we’re using the world cup as his fitness test, once that passes he’s ours hopefully. I could see all the big teams being interested in Torriera, Barca, Bayern, PSG, Real, City. He’ll be a terrific capture with the small price tag we paid and us being on him before he grabbed everyone’s attention. Can’t wait to see more from Mislintat, Raul, Fahmy, & Co.

    1. gotanidea says:

      Yes, he would be a good catch

      The question is who will leave after he comes?

      1. Break-on-through says:

        I think we’re low on midfield numbers. Ramsey, Xhaka, Elneny, Niles is not strong enough, we lost Wilshere, Cazorla. Torriera coming could be one of their spot. I would still hope for another big talent to arrive. At times we will go with three in CM, injuries or form could make that difficult. I expect at least one more after Torriera, but I’d also like us to look into improving on our squad depth, Elneny seems to be bottom of totem pole in that regard.

  5. Durand says:

    No no no, to N’nonzi. Price way to high for him. Torreria is the right player for the right position at the right time.

    I was hoping the dithering was over with Le Prof sent packing. Guess time will tell on that.

    Just tweeked that club won’t open up on transfer as Sampdoria did about him being sold.

    No need to talk up Torreria to convince fans, his performances say everything. When you have to talk up a player to convince people of the merits of a transfer, well that says a lot also.

    If N’nonzi was £16 million it may be worth a punt. However £30 million for his age vs 22 yr old Torreira, is a no-brainer.

    If Arsenal lose out on Torreira, then
    Ivan, Sven, and Raul out out out! Lol

    1. Durand says:

      What’s the point of bringing in Aces like Sven and Russ if Arsenal still labor and procrastinate in transfers?

      Not saying its the case, merely expressing nervous curiosity.

      A good catalyst for change would be an end to transfer dithering. Reach for the wallet son, not the coin purse.

      Martins and Pavon not very convincing TBH. Pavon had his chance, and crapped the bed a bit. Aguero changed game when he came on, Pavon’s first touch was very very Welbeck-ian, to me anyway.

      Martins on a free is good business, but better out there if we’re paying a large sum..

      1. Phil says:

        Durand-it is because we have brought on board Sven Raul and Famy that I believe the deal is done.There is no way they would allow the player to go elsewhere with their own reputations on the line and questioned in the first transfer window they are in tandem together.Its plain to see Torreira is EXACTLY the player we need and they simply cannot allow for this deal not to happen.PSG are too tight under financial constraints to get the player even as a replacement for Veratti.We need to sit this one out until the deal is finally confirmed and just trust the announcement is made asap

        1. Durand says:

          Phil your explanation well said, logical and reasoned. My comment sounds bit panicked on a second reading.

          I didn’t think of it that way, i appreciate your take and explanation to clear things up. Thank you.

          1. Ozziegunner says:

            ??have faith and all will be revealed.

  6. Arsene Wenger. says:

    This is both the Arsenal which used to lose most of transfer in the last minute.We are having experts working on the transfers and I don’t think they stand to lose an targed.

  7. Arsene Wenger. says:

    This is not the Arsenal which used to lose most of transfer in the last minute.We are having experts working on the transfers and I don’t think they stand to lose an targed.

  8. RSH says:

    Family members and Sampdoria pres. himself has said the deal is done and he is going to Arsenal so I’m going to stick by that. I dont think a PSG bid would change anything. The only thing that would change the transfer is if Arsenal decided to pull out. Please just get this done though

    1. RSH says:

      Was also under the impression PSG has to sell some players to avoid FFP punishments, so I doubt buying is their priority at the moment.

      1. Durand says:

        RSH I was under the same impression. If and I say if we lose Torreria to PSG, well I’ll take Verrati or Rabiot as compensation when PSG have to sell.

        Unless PSG sells M’bappe to Real Madrid that is.

        Presently, I’m believing Torreira is Arsenal bound, and Arsenal just don’t like publicising their business.

  9. auba arsenal of lagos says:

    I’m confident arsenal will sign torreira,don’t care what the rumours” you” pick says I choose to pick my own rumours which are quite more are saying & its that torreira will join arsenal after Uruguay exits. Hey keV you should be excited about martins he’s a dribbler & we are way due for one on that right side.

  10. gotanidea says:

    That Isco guy is always dancing around everytime I see him playing

    What an artist

    1. Ozziegunner says:


  11. Footfetisharsenalboy says:

    I dont want Him. We should get Kante instead

  12. Footfetisharsenalboy says:

    In fact why are we messing about. We only need a handful of players

    We just need centre back, two central midfielders and wingers

    Just sign these players and we are DONE
    1. Kante
    2. Isco or Pogba
    3. Verane
    4. Bonucci
    5. Di Maria
    6. Mo Salah

    Job done. Simples

    Why are we messing around with these sub standard or unproven players

    1. ACE says:

      I have been accussed of playing Fifa 18 about
      Arsenal transfers on this board so be prepared
      to be heavily scrtutinized for this reply.

      Other than Bonucci and Dimaria who are
      honestly both in the twilight of there club
      careers, the remaining players on your list
      would NEVER consider playing for AFC atm.
      The lack of CL futbol and Arsenals reluctance
      (thankfully) to splash ridiculous sums of cash
      for the worlds best players being the biggest

      Ive been quite pleased with Arsenals business
      thus far(especially if Torreria and Socratis are
      done deals) however if Emery and Co. were
      able to pull a last minute shock transfer for a
      Koulibaly, Ndombele or Leon Bailey type
      player Arsenal would immediately be genuine
      EPL contenders.

  13. Sean says:

    Unai Emery & Staff all in and ready to go.
    New system, style & tactics, also players;

    Leno is in, Cech back up, Ospina Gone!
    Leichsteiner in, back up for Hector, Experince.
    Sokratis to be announced this week along with Chambers new deal.
    Torreira has to be a done deal according to all the positive reports, Sven/Ivan asses on the line this summer, all eyes on them.
    Gelson Martins is getting closer to coming to an agreement, naturally dribbling pacey Winger & Free. I’m sure Carvalho is being spoken to aswell as he has been on Arsenals radar for season’s now, is a big brute of CM & Free.

    This is all on July1st. I’m happy with what we are doing so far just enjoy the rumours.

    1. Sean says:

      Leaves outgoings in Mustafi if we are buying Soyuncu. He wants to come, Arsenal want him so shouldn’t be a problem. More positive news.

      This also means if we get all this wrapped up soon then depending on outgoings we may still make a big money signing in the last days of window as all closes before season starts.

  14. Ajibade Olasunkanmi Lateef says:

    Please this called Lucas is what we have been looking for so long get him @ all costs

  15. Joshua Bryant says:

    Kev in future if you just say a deal has been agreed but not yet signed people might not get confused by what you mean. Most people on here assume Done deal means the deal is signed thats why we never understand how anyone can pull out of a done deal. Its YOUR wording thats confusing people.

  16. DDK3 says:

    If we fail with Torreira, we should go for Meyer. He is younger and had a great season with Schalke. He is also very versatile.

    If it is true that he wants 4m per year, we should pay it as we would save the 30m Torreira money as Meyer would be on a free. Sign him for 5 years (5×4=20m) save 10m and sell him in 4 years at the age of 26 for 50m+

    Much more aligned with the Arsenal penny pinching approach.

  17. Jeremy says:

    Seriously, we will know soon enough who is coming in and who ain’t.

    I’m more than happy to give any players except Fellaini and Johnny Evans, a chance.

    But hope we can really strengthen during this window. There are only 2 confirmed signings to date. Not good enough though.

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