There are a large portion of Arsenal fans that are very unhappy that the Gunners have made Mikel Arteta the hot favourite to succeed Arsene Wenger, and these naysayers are quietly hoping that the persistent rumours about Pep Guardiola’s assistant are simply a smokescreen before they announce their main target of Max Allegri.
These fans were given hope yesterday when the BBC man David Ornstein said: “Arteta is the frontrunner – he wants the job and there is a feeling among staff that he is set to get it – but while it would seem Vieira has drifted out of contention, whispers persist that Allegri remains in the mix.”
Well I can’t see where these “whispers” are coming from as Allegri has already made it clear that he would only leave Juventus if he is sacked, which is hardly likely considering he has just notched up a hat-trick of League and Cup doubles in Serie A.
Yet again, yesterday Allegri was preparing for Juventus’ last game of the season where they will be parading the Serie A trophy, and he made it clear that he will very quickly start preparing for another title tilt next season. “The probability of me staying is very high,” he said. “Next week, I’ll meet with the club as we start to make the team competitive again, just like every other year.
“Next year will be even more difficult and we need to keep raising our game. It’s in Juve’s DNA to be competitive on all fronts.
“I am happy at Juventus and I have an excellent relationship with the club.”
I think it is time to stop wishing that the Arsenal Board can entice the Italian to change his mind after that clear snub. We will have to start pinning hopes on someone else if we still don’t want Arteta.
Darren N
According to @kev a.k.a @Resource, Allegri was done deal
So maybe Ornstein is right, like what he always is?
I am gonna tell you a very simple logic which would completely rule out Allegri.
Just aswer this quetion to yourself.
If Arsenal had a manager leaving at the end of the season, a manager who has won 4 doubles back to back (league trophies and 3 FA cups ) and got us into champions league final and are a regualar in the CL semi finals would we fans give him a great send off in the last game of the season?
We gave an outstanding send off to a manager who has managed to make Arsenal punch below our weights for 13 straight seasons.
But if you followed the Juve vs verona match today. Allegri just went back very casually into the dressing room after that match.
So it is quiet simple to rule out Allegri out of it.
After all we are getting Arteta – The only one.
Great times ahead.
I am already excited about beating real , bayern, barcas, juventus to win the CL.
I thought you suspect that Arteta is just a decoy to make the fans accept a lower profile manager later on?
For instance the ex-Leipzig manager, Rodgers or Eddie Howe, instead of Emery, Enrique and Ancelotti
Yeah mate,
I do suspect that its a decoy….
But it is looking very likely that the board are not that clever to pull off such a thing.
Coz Robert Pires , who is very close to arsenal matters as he still trains at arsenal understands that Arteta would be a perfect signing.
He said “I would approve of Arteta, as he has played at arsenal, knows the club and knows arsenal philosophy, so he will be perfect manager for arsenal.”
In that case we can also sign Bendtner as pur manager or even Andre santos, remember him?
I think it is time to kick Kroenke out. Time for Arteta out banners.
Now dont give me the shit that he has to be supported as he did not even manage a single game at arsenal.
ManU whp were winning almost all the titles including CLs appointed a small club manager Moyes and failed miserably and are still recovering.
So we will appoint a manager who is even worse i.e. manager who has never managed ever and has just stopped playing 2 years ago and has been working as support staff and expect to win evrything.
We would finish beyond tenth place if it doesnt workout with arteta.
We need to learn from the mistakes done by others and do the right thing. That is the case for any matter in life…
But no we will do ever more bad mistakes than others did and see what happens.
And the most important thing that the Arsenal players need right now is a kick up their ass. Becausr they all are happy with their wages and not having to work enough to compete with the best teams.
Especially players like Ramsey, Bellerin, Xhaka.
Now if arteta comes in and barks instructions out will they even care?
If some one who has achieved nothing as a player , did not ever get called for national team in his senior career of 15 years comes in and asks you to put in kore effort, the first thing that comes accross thr mind of the players is “if you had put more effort as a player you would have played for bigger clubs like barca and real amd eventually get called for spain “.
I wouldnt respect some one at work who has failed himself comes and tells me what i am doing wrong and what has to be done to get better.. Not because i dont want to get better but i will have my doubts whether following him will make me better as his method have not beem proven and he couldnt make himself better.
I hope Arteta does great , but against the likes of Pep, Jose, Klopp, pochetino,conte/sarri, everton manager arteta would be brished aside.
As they are some of the best managers in the business and also have PL experience.
I am hearing that everton are lokking for a world class manager to get the best out of the good players they have in the squad.
So apparently we will be fininshing below everton also regualarly.
God save Arsenal now.
Bro Kev said Arsenal and Allegri ended the negotiations due to financial agreement not being made
keV told is it was a done deal first……
Yeah I’m sure Allegri was considered and there were talks. Transfer budget seems like the obvious reason he would not go. Just get ready for an Arteta announcement. Speculation is essentially over at this point.
I would think Allegri has simply used talks with Arsenal as a lever. Who would switch a successful career at Juve for a huge rebuilding problem at Wenger’s personal Arsenal … with other big hitters bent on controlling the club over his head ? If they go for Arteta it will be because a young untried manager is what they can get. The idea that Arsenal is such a plum job that they can take their pick is laughable.
Arsenal could’ve doubled his salary, possibly even more than that, and that’s more than enough to convince most managers. We can only speculate as to why things didn’t work out I guess. Maybe Arteta was favorite to begin with even.
Chris, it’s not just about the Arsenal job, it’s the best managers ever competing in the one league. Not best quality ever, best/most competition ever all in one comp. The jobs on offer are tempting because it means you are rated extremely highly, sort of. We seem to be bucking the trend at the minute, if rumors true.
We have a history of not being quick to dump managers. We have a low number of different managers throughout our history, I think compared to the other big teams. We have plenty of patience with this type of stuff. But I feel the support is about to do a u-turn, I think the younger fans now will not be like the ones of old, while sitting back and seeing how Manc Manu Real etc etc are showing how big clubs really operate.
Off topic, Ian Wright has just agreed with Alan Shearer that referee Michael Oliver was correct in awarding a penalty but not sending Jones off for a blatant foul on Hazard whilst preventing him a goal scoring chance. Apparently there’s been a rule change which says, it doesn’t count if it’s Manchester United player.
Nice one Kenny ?
Thank you Sue, can you imagine if that was one of our players with Oliver refereeing.
Yes… the red card would have been straight out!!
Were you glad they lost though? I was ??
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Every team in Europe knows Arsenal desperately need some new defenders, and are now hyping the prices of our transfer targets. Imagine Napoli asking £100m for Koulibaly making him the most expensive defender.
There are many other CBs from the other top European clubs
Besides, we still have Mustafi, Chambers, Holding and Mavropanos
Don’t believe that bullocks for a second. Koulibaly has a 70m release clause and unless he got rid of that since the last contract extension which was I think 2016-17 if I’m not mistaken they can’t simply up the price past that.
We’ll meet next week and discuss how we can make the team competitive again, no resting on laurels, no flies as they say. This is what’s been missing at ours for a long time now.
We may not be getting Allegri but I feel like it is Luis Enrique because he has absolutely slid under the radar. Gazidis and company are just using Mikel Arteta and Henry as a smokescreen so nobody learns about the candidates which is a smart move. The same as the 50m budget, why should we announce how much money we have? You do realize they will simply jack up the prices if we said we had 200m. For instance, we want under from Roma if we tell them we have 200m they will definitely stick to their 44m dollar price tag if we go in to negotiate because they know we can afford it. Under is good but not worth 44m good he’s more like a 35m at most.
Another explanation for the £50 million story is that the story is true.
The next manager will have around £50 million to buy a player of his picking.
Sven is already planning on spending money and Sven isn’t the next manager, anything Sven and Gazidis spends isn’t part of the next managers spending.
Politics always play with words, I hope we do spend some real cash though. Prices are increasing and we could save a fortune buying now instead of 2-3 years time where prices may have kept increasing at a silly rate.
Thats what i thought. 50m for the new manager/coach to get themselves 1 maybe 2 of their own signings as the rest is handled by the 2wise men!
I stated this previously under another article. Also there is a sound explanation of how the £50 million works in a recent post by “She wears a yellow ribbon” on “gooner news.” Well worth a read.
1) we had 180m as a budget last year and we ended with a positive net spend so those funds are available 2) Based on the current sponsorship deals we have we earn at least 120m without the Champions League money and exclusive of wages because that would have been covered when players are signed. 3) Msilintat identifies the weakpoints in the team and is lining up players and that can be done without the manager. He bases his system on overall contribution, style of play etc. Heads of recruitment can sign players even before the manager is appointed – Barca, Real and Bayern among other Big Clubs operate like this. It ensures the recruitment process for quality players is always ongoing irrespective of manager status. Remember Sanelhi is the one that does the negotiations so all the incoming manager has to do is coach the team. However, it should be noted that the manager has the final say on player recruitment once appointed.
Jose:”I am the special 1″
What’s up with all these Chelsea players? They seem to think they have won a trophy!!!!
Allegri is trophy hungry, has ambition, needs full control and enough funds to get top players.
Kroenke is money hungry, wants to pay lower salary to manager, wants someone he can control, has no ambition other than increase the value of his shares and doesn’t want to spend a lot of money getting top players
Arteta is a perfect choice for Kroenke
Allegri is Kroenke’s nightmare
Arteta maybe better than Allegri,you never know until you try it
The priority of Arsenal board was Arteta,Allegro was never contacted, did he build Juventus!This is a club that has dominated the Italian league before allegri came.@ John try to lecture me on Allegri he is not a miracle man like you think
Oh and I have tried a grown up debate with you remember ? You insulted anyone from a 3 rd world country and anyone who had achieved a coaching badge
I have no problem with you wanting Arteta however, your reasons are without evidence
If Arteta comes I will support the club as I have done for decades
Haha even your insults are childish and uneducated
You are a cyber bully, you are always quick to respond to my posts to embarrass me.You purported uefa license is nothing to me and it does not make your opinions superior
Hey John why don’t you pick on someone your own size. Stop bullying the kids around here
if its true that arteta is to be our new boss. good luck to him. but please let us give a chance – gooner = forever
Congratulations Chelsea,Mourhino can go to hell.Man utd still living under the shadow of Fuggerson!we are in a new era and new Arsenal is coming
ManU has supposedly had an awful season, yet they’re still a million miles ahead of us. I hope you’re right, and we’re on the up, but Wenger has left us in a right mess, so a lot of work to do.
We might also live under the 4th place shadow for a while and it will be a new experience. XD yipeee
Though Hazard is diver,Jones tackled like a fool, I guess that is the end of his Manchester career ,mourhino revenges against his own players by killing their career
THERE IS AGUY HIS NAME IS SANCHEZ
THAT HE WAS MOVING TO MAN U TO WIN TROPHIES
loosers trophies maybe – gooner = forever
????? plus he still keeps giving the ball away!!
Grass isn’t always greener!!
I feel like the grass was greener the other side when thinking back on the swap deal, I wasn’t convinced of Mkhi and I was wrong, grass is greener here now 😛
Until I think of our def… the green grass has some horrid brown stuff on it XD
Yes I much prefer Mkhi
Nice how AFC had the trophy a few times recently and ooops, Alexis missed getting his hands on it with UTD, finished the season with how many trophies?
that guy is on 400k winning trophy’s is his last worry
Gutted Sanchez ????????
Would have loved Allegri, but that doesn’t mean Arteta is acceptable, if Allegri doesn’t come. I mean there is easily another 20/30 better options than Arteta!
Allegri is to great for a 6th place team like Arsenal. This is not going to change for a while so get uset to it. We are not a big team anymore and probably wont come close to it for a while. But it is funny how even the likes of Spurs have overcome Arsenal. Every move they make is smooth and well thought, where at Arsenal everything is absolute chaos and gambling.
Arteta has no risk factor. He can be replaced in no time where one can not experiment with former legends like Vieira and Henry. A goat of a manger who can be blamed in the end in case things go to wrong.
And by the way. Even if Arteta does everything right, where exactly do you guys suppose we will end up in the next season? How about beating the likes of Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool for the 4th place? HAHAHA
Mike Sanz
@mikesanz19
If I told you a story about a footballer that went from dabbing with Lingard, to playing with Özil to then playing with arguably the greatest of all time, Messi, you would say that’s a beautiful rise to the top. Such a shame Alexis Sanchez did it backwards.
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Whomever we get we must get behind them and give them our total support. As people are saying Arteta could turn out to be an amazing manager. I mean Pep wanted him and he’s had two years as a master class plus the club captain years with Wenger. He certainly isn’t stupid and he’s helped city become and dominant side he’s likely spent more time with the players than Pep. There’s also the case that Arteta knows our youth players and will know which ones are coming through to the first team. So that gives him a key advantage over any other candidate for the job.