Arteta has changed Arsenal. Gone are the days when players came to Arsenal, fought to get noticed, and then left on bad terms. Such players are like Robin Van Persie, Samir Nasri, and Carlos Vela, who didn’t trust that the Emirates was where they ought to stay.
This year, we’ve seen players trust that Arsenal is the club they ought to be at. This has been shown by Gabriel Magalhaes, Gabriel Martinelli, Bukayo Saka, Aaron Ramsdale, and Hopefully William Saliba and Reiss Nelson signing new deals, with the belief that Arsenal is where they are going to reach the top.
Being at the top means people are admiring and eyeing you. Arsenal’s talent is already attracting interest. PSG decision-makers, for instance, are so impressed with Arteta that they imagined they could sign him, though they failed to convince him their project was worth him leaving Arsenal for.
Granit Xhaka is also attracting interest from Bayer Leverkusen, and his exit could be the beginning of Arsenal once again making reasonable profits from players exits and ending the habit of them leaving for free, like the way Mesut Ozil, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, and Alexander Lacazette left for nothing, to name just a few.
Granit Xhaka now expected to join Bayer Leverkusen in the coming days for £21.5m.🇩🇪
Arsenal not prepared to green light the deal until the Declan Rice deal was agreed.🔴 pic.twitter.com/n1KZodJw1C
— Ben Jacobs (@JacobsBen) July 5, 2023
Interestingly, Xhaka could just be the first headline sale for Arsenal this summer. Balogun could leave for about 50 million euros; and Tierney could also bring a reasonable transfer fee.
Arsenal is now acting as a big club, there’s no doubt about that.
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So we’re now acting like a big clubs as regards player sales. I thought many said the players we let go for nothing before was due to the fact that they were “deadwood” and nobody would pay anything for them.
I still wonder how we were paying Aubameyang to play for Becelona while they sold him for £10.3m.
Beats my imagination
Strange how history can be twisted to suit an argument dgr8xt, especially with Aubemeyang.
We actually got transfer fees for the players mentioned (RVP, Nasri and Vela) if I’m not mistaken?
The only time we’ve given players away and carried on paying their salaries was, I also believe, once MA took over?!
I do agree that players are now wanting to come to the club and play under MA’s guidance.
Thank goodness that our owner has given the club his financial backing to help make that happen.
Those fans hate AW. Football history was twisted to achieve their objective. I remembered a fan with initials as Hypertension Diabetes came out his own stories that no elite clubs want AW while he was at Arsenal but I can dig out old news that Real Madrid wanted him.
Strange that when he got the sack here that non of the elite clubs wanted him…
He is old by then. Do you know his age? As old as you?
He was 67 when he got the sack here. Ancelotti is mid 60’s and still doing it for Real Madrid.
He was not interested in continuing club management. Shame on you! Leave the old man alone. All he ever did was to make sure you will continue enjoying this great club for years to come at his expense. Shame on you again!
Now go swoon over rivals achievements. It’s what you Wenger bashers take pleasure on doing. Why even bother supporting the club then?
Really ? It’s different to what he said. He said he would be interested in another management job, but not in the PL.
I was going to The Arsenal while Wenger playing for Strasbourg, and still going after he was sacked !
HH, once again, low-level-human-being due to his extreme hate for somebody, try to mudslinging the person he hates the most.
REUTERS
May 24, 201912:37 PM Updated 4 years ago
Wenger says his football future may not be in management
By Reuters Staff
(Reuters) – Former Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger wants to return to football soon but says he is at a crossroads and is not sure if he should take up another role as manager.
Wenger left Arsenal at the end of the 2017-18 season after 22 years in charge of the London club where he won three Premier League titles and a record seven FA Cups.
The 69-year-old has kept himself busy as a television pundit and conference speaker since leaving the Gunners and said in October that he had received offers to return to football from all over the world.
“You will see me again in football. As a manager… I don’t know,” Wenger told reporters on Thursday. “I thought I would come back into management very quickly but I enjoyed taking a little distance. Now I’m at a crossroads.
“Football is still my passion. I’ll come back soon, but I cannot tell you exactly in what capacity.”
As I’ve always said, hatred is far to strong a word. Dislike would be more appropriate. Dislike for a man that blamed the fans for the team not winning the PL in 2016. Dislike for a man that fielded weakened teams in semi finals. Dislike for a man that lied to the fans.
If you’re happy for all of those things, then crack on.
HD, too many people on here, throw around the word ” hate” to try and undermine the comments of a person they disagree with.
Very true Ozziegunner. They can’t handle it and resort to name calling. Says a lot for their mentality.
Thank you Kenny for that article. An embarrassment to the one who said no club wanted him. Shamelessly lying through his teeth. All HD can try to do now is save face. Not that he will succeed.
No lies from me 😁
Arteta would never have survived selling his best players every season to pay for a stadium, especially with very little left for replacement.
Wenger never had to sell players to pay for the stadium, as only 30% of incoming transfer fees was allowed to go to that debt.
Why were we selling our best players every season then? Care to enlighten us?
Err, they wanted to leave 🙄
Arsenal kept our club running by player sales and property profit for many years, according to an article from Forbes analysing our economy between 2006 and 2016.
During these years our Operating Profit were mostly negative, and we balanced our books with player sales and property profit.
From my point of view Wenger did a tremendous job keeping us top four during most of these years.
I can recommend this Forbes article.: Tracking The Impact Of Arsenal’s Move To Emirates Stadium Ten Years On: Was It Worth It?
I love it when people like Didrik actually do some research and then gives the relevant details out for everyone to check for themselves – well done mate!!
Arsene admitted, when he left by mutual consent, that he didn’t want to manage in the PL again, as his club was The Arsenal… so he would look elsewhere IF the right opportunity came along… it didn’t and FIFA stepped in, giving him the post he has already made inroads into making a success.
Of course we can name one or two managers who are still doing a sound job at club level, I can only think of two – Ancelloti (who is two years younger than AW when he left the club) and Roy Hodgson, who came out of retirement when asked.
I seem to remember Ancelloti failing miserably at Everton, but of course that was in the PL!!
Going back to the article, can anyone remind me of any player that Bertie Mee, George Graham, Arsene Wenger, Unia Emery or any other previous Arsenal manager who gave players away, while continuing to play their salaries…. after all, that’s what the article is all about?
Thanks mate.
There’s a reason for everything and I believe we had to sort out the mess. It’s never positive when we have to let players leave for free. In this case our club owner has accepted the solution and there must have been a valid reason. One day we will probably know more, but now we can only speculate.
So Jack Wilshire was lying, when on Football Focus, he said that Mertersacker, the club captain, walked into the changing room and said Wenger has been sacked ?
Tell me of any manager who was sacked and yet was given months to leave. Tell me please
Officially Wenger announced that he was going step down from his role at the end of the season (2018). He left a year before his existing contract was due to expire. He got probably a friendly advice about time’s up.
I can’t off hand. The reason the club let him stay to the end of the season was 2 fold. 1, they didn’t want anymore aggro between the AKBs and the WOBs. 2, they wanted to allow him to get a good send off, which he duly got.
Didrk, which went against his principle of always seeing a contract through. Something that he always prided himself on.
Sacked?! Arsene Wenger left the club on his final year of his contract of additional one year extension because he don’t break contracts. He probably left because he was booed, jeered and insulted by the fans in the very stadium that he was bounded to. The creditors that loan the money to build the stadium, which was 400M plus demanded Arsene Wenger to be Arsenal manager until the loans are 90% paid. He stayed for that. His priced players were sold to pay off the loan quicker than projected. So there is no dark history of Arsene Wenger. It’s the dark history of Arsenal fans especially AFTV and its goons. The fact that half of world population is full of muppets doesn’t surprise me anymore.
Wenger was sacked in 2018 halfway through his 2 year contract which he had signed in 2017.
First he was supposed to have signed a 5 year contract, now you’re saying RBS demanded he stayed till 90% was paid off 😂. As I’ve posted previously, only 30% of incoming transfer fees was allowed to be used for the stadium debt, as per the loan from the RBS.
Quite agree with you about that AFTV mob, led by that ex Luton Town fan Robbie Lyle. Calling them muppets is very tame imo.
Wanted is one aspect but were they willing? And the grand old man got cold feet? Too comfortable over here with 8 Million in the bank every year, win only the “Top 6 Trophee hehehe”
Carlo went back in a jiffy. RVP did not want to play anymore for us, here real footballers want to lean under the guidance of Mikel, and there lies the difference, like it or hate it or ignore it, the doom and gloom I suffered for those 10 long years is finally over.
I don’t spoon feed you. Google yourself. I always research if I’m interested. Don’t be lazy!
Arteta would never have survived selling his best players every season to pay for a stadium, especially with very little left for replacement.You always seem to ignore that fact
I’m not the best at remembering specific years, but at what point in time in the last 7/8 years were we being told that AW could spend? My husband kept saying so, so it must be true!
From 2013.
1. Source: Arsenal.com on 22 Feb 2013. Title: Wenger – We’re able to spend money now
2. Source: ESPN Soccernet on 26 Sep 2016. Title: Arsenal’s transfer spending under Arsene Wenger since 1996
In fact, a vast majority of Wenger’s net spend has come since 2013. Starting with the capture of Mesut Ozil for £42.4m on deadline day of that summer’s transfer window, Arsenal spent £263.7m in that period while only taking in £47.3m on outgoing players. That’s a net spend of £216.4m since the 2013-14 season — with the total figure from 1996-97 to that point just £26.6m.
A big reason for that massive increase, of course, is that Arsenal are no longer weighed down by the heavy debt they incurred when moving into the Emirates Stadium in 2006, when Wenger was repeatedly forced to sell top players like Robin van Persie, Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri while scouring the market for cheap young talents.
And, like all other Premier League clubs, Arsenal have become much richer thanks to a new multi-billion pound TV deal.
In the period between 2006-07 and 2012-13, Arsenal actually made a £40m profit on transfers — more than any other club in the league. In those same years, Man United had a net spend of £88m, Liverpool spent £124m, Chelsea splurged £233m and Man City flexed their newfound financial muscles with a net spend of £427m.
Note: On 2 September 2013, Özil agreed to join English side Arsenal.
Whether Arteta would have survived or not can only be debated. It cannot be stated as fact one way or another.
Mikel Arteta’s pressure now is to deliver success, including trophies, to justify the transfer funds he has been given by the Board. He cannot afford to waste/diminish his available transfer funds by failure to maximize income from player sales.
As for Arsene Wenger, he is now in the past and should be celebrated for his part in Arsenal’s history, warts and all.
Wrong again Loose Cannon – Arsene Wenger only received the reported money you mention from his last contract – not every year Hehehe.
By the way, any idea what Mikel’s reported salary is?
£8,000,000 for finishing 8th, 8th, 5th, 2nd, losing european football and bottling out twice hehehe.
Pleased to know your not suffering from gloom and doom anymore though after ten years!!!
Let’s hope MA improves on 7 fa cup wins, two doubles, three PL wins, two decades of european football and the magnificent Invincibles – you and I have something in common as we both want him to become the most successful manager EVER!!
BTW, Mr. Deadwood Aubameyang helped MA to win the FA Cup.
The history of our club eh Kenny?
“Strange how history can be twisted to suit an argument dgr8xt, especially with Aubemeyang.”
Auba wasn’t deadwood then, was he? We all wanted him to sign the bloody thing and when he did it all went down the pan shortly afterwards
I don’t remembered you said Auba was deadwood. I’m referring to other fans.
“when he did it all went down the pan shortly afterwards” — You are also wrong to say that. I checked Wiki, Aub scored 10 goals for 29 appearance in 2020-2021. A year after FA Cup which is in 2021-2022, his went downhill and the rest we all know.
Sorry if I’m being a dullard
We won the fa cup in 2020 and PEA scored 10 EPL goals in 29 appearances next season? Is that a good return?
I would very much prefer if some of us were honest and just agree that things are currently rosy with us at the moment instead of changing narratives. There was an article here yesterday which talked about phase 4 (something like that) of the process. A comment even added another phase (phase 5).
We goofed big time on outgoings, that’s a fact. Anyway, I’ve started to condition my mind by telling myself that it’s not my money.
Your last paragraph reminds me of an article I’ve been considering to send in for some time. Maybe I’ll work on it soon
I prefer honesty and not fabrication. I urged them to backup their statements with sources as what I did in my comments. I dislike dishonesty and fabrication. If anyone die that, I consider them as low-level human being with no ethics. A half-filled cup is half empty and half full depending on how you look at it.
If you are an old man and cannot forgive someone is fine with me. But your dislikes doesn’t give you excuses to fabricate lies.
We know Ken1945 is in his 70s, but we will respect him because he acts as a good manner, logical and reasonable man. For example, he and Dan Smith respects AW but he sounds out his displeasure on some Dan Smith’s articles.
Not far off my eighty’s Kenny and thanks for the compliment.
Been supporting The Arsenal since I was seven and no one has come anywhere near what AW achieved at the club…. but I hope to see MA do just that.
Unfortunately Herbert Chapman died prematurely!
Agreed OG, but I don’t think anyone currently using JA would have been around anyway!!
Deal agreed for TIMBER
Signing Timber means will Arteta Switch 3 at back formation?
3-2-4-1
White, Saliba, Gabriel
Zinchenko Rice
Saka Odegaard Havertz Martinelli
Jesus??
Yes. Based on the latest training photos, maybe Arsenal will keep Holding?
If we sell Tierney, I think we’ll abandon the inverted-LB tactic
Gai Signing Timber means will Arteta Switch 3 at back formation?
3-2-4-1
White, Saliba, Gabriel
Zinchenko Rice
Saka Odegaard Havertz Martinelli
Jesus??
We always played with that formation last season, when we had the ball. But maybe Timber’s arrival will make us play with inverted-RB instead
Kedar, I don’t look forward to being overrun in midfield with that formation due to Declan Rice, being the only midfielder with strength, power and defensive ability. Arsenal will have to score a lot of goals to compensate for the midfield fragility.
GAI.your logic escapes me.Surely if we sell Tierney, we will continue with Zinchenko as an inverted left back?
Grandad, if we sell Tierney, I think we’ll play with an inverted-RB
Strange to mention Carlos vela with RVP and Nasri – the latter two were key first team players in their time, whereas vela never really had a chance to prove himself, which i never understood, but hey ho
Carlos Vela, an excellent technical player, got belted out of the game when kicked from pillar to post against Manchester United.
I’m very happy for what’s going on in our club at the moment.
Comparing this time, after the Kroenkes got full control of our club, with the past is unfair. The last decade of Wenger’s tenure was difficult ,and became even more difficult when David Dein left.
Wenger decided to stay although he knew it would be very difficult to make Arsenal competitive for many years. Merci Wenger is one of the greatest individuals in Arsenal’s history, and we should show him the respect he deserves.
Who have we actually sold ?
We have sold mari for 4.5 million that’s a loss of 20 odd million and we have released AMN
Think the Article writer as got ahead of himself
Nice observation Dan. Most of us above got talking about Wenger and the inverted LB, CF, bla bla bla. We haven’t actually sold anyone so I’m not sure where this writeup is coming from.
Meanwhile, the loss on Mari isn’t up to £20m
Facts again DK, you cannot beat them and I find it irresponsible the way this (and others) spin the facts in order to make it seem like MA is succeeding in every area.
He is not and the buying and selling of players in his first three years is a prime example of that.
He is now getting so much better with his purchases, but let’s see how much we get for players like Mari, who cost us a fortune in loss transfer fees.
SHOULD READ This article
No Ken all the bad signings have been edu doing ,out of the 25 signed 8 have been upto standard they were all Artetas choices ,gotta get it right mate 😉
I remember someone on this site (I won’t mention names) who said that from the way Vieira is playing, it’s very obvious Arteta had nothing to do with his signing and that Edu Gasper signed him without consulting Arteta at all.
I couldn’t help but laf awt laud
Another one saying edu was the main man in charge of getting Mari ,when he worked under Arteta at Man City ,makes sense that one 😂
I agree with you, but with the loan fees paid by Udinese in 2021-22 and Monza last season, Arsenal come out more or less even on the transaction.
According to the Mirror, did Arsenal pay Flamengo a fee of £6.8million for Pablo Mari up front before making his loan move permanent, according to the Brazilian club’s financial reports.
17.5 million in wages ,not sure how many games he played but it wasn’t a lot
Who have we sold ? To back up the article, or have i been in another universe these last few weeks? I really dont understand the article or the title.
It’s trying to whitewash MA’s early mistakes and insinuating that AW and those before him, gave players away – still waiting for one single example of course!!
Articles like this Ken, no base or examples, annoy me. They are not reality!!!!!!
We gave away 5 Invincibles. Mad Jens, Sol, Edu, Pires and Wiltord while we were at Highbury. Then there’s Arsharvin, Santos at The Emirates.
Let’s take each player you mention one at a time :
Lehman. Contract about to expire.
Edu. Contract about to expire.
Pires. Contract about to expire.
Wiltord. Contract about to expire.
Arshavin. Contract about to expire.
Santos. Contract about to expire
All the above players, for differing reasons, told the club they would not sign new contracts if they were offered one.
As far as I am aware, Edu and Pires were the only ones offered new contracts, but both declined.
Edu felt the club was too slow in offering him one and Pires was still angry about his CL substitution.
Now these cases are completely different to what happened with Ozil and Aubemeyang,as you well know, but just in case you didn’t…….
With Aubameyang, we were still paying his salary, while he left for free to play in Barcelona, having just signed a newly reported £300,000 plus four year contract.
Ozil, with two years left on his reported £350,000 plus salary and collecting a bonus of (reportedly again) £60,000 was effectively on gardening leave until he was also let go for free.
How you can equate your list of players with the two above as being the same I don’t understand, perhaps you can explain?
Unless, of course, you believe that every time a player runs down his contract, for whatever reason, the club is seen as giving the player away?
If a players contract is about to expire and he doesn’t wish to sign another, that’s not giving a player away and it certainly would mean we wouldn’t be paying him to sit at home or represent another club and paying for the privilege.
As for Sol Campbell, I’m not sure about the facts and I believe the club took into account his personal health following his walkout at half time in the WHU game.
But I will check that out and come back – Wenger did re-sign him on a free of course.
Did we receive money for any of those players, no, so they were given away.
Absolute rubbish – they weren’t “given away” they decided not to renew their contracts and in doing so, took any power away from the club.
How could the club sell them, if the player wasn’t under contract?!?!
What a weak argument, I’m surprised that, in your haste to find examples to defend your messiah (such an immature use of the word, but what’s good for the goose etc) you tried these examples.
If you can’t see the difference, then so be it.
The club could’ve sold them a year before their contracts expired, but obviously were happy for them to leave zilch. Which is another way of saying they were given away.
Keep twisting and digging HD, you know your on a loser here.
You keep trying to explain what “giving away” means, by coming up with different scenarios – the real point being that the club couldn’t give them away, because their contracts had run out – nothing to do with last season or the one before that even!!
They were NOT Arsenal players, so what is so hard to understand?
While, of course, Ozil and Aubemeyang were still Arsenal players, is that correct?
All this dislike towards Arsene HD yet he’s about to have his statue unveiled at the Emirates,obviously he didn’t do to well over his tenure here 😂
Wonder if mini Pep will get one after his time here
Yep, on the 3rd of August, and we’ll deserved for his years at Highbury. 🤞that MA gets one, as that will mean there’s trophies coming.