Its really bad that no clubs want these two Arsenal players

Two of the most criticised players at Arsenal last season were Mesut Ozil and Shkodran Mustafi, both were regularly slammed because of their dire displays and it really is not a surprise that the club has decided they need to be sent packing.

But the problem is this, no one wants them.

Arsenal doesn’t want them, the vast majority of the fans don’t want them but worst of all is that no other club wants them either.

The Evening Standard is claiming that Unai Emery wants to offload the pair in order to raise funds but as of yet neither has attracted any concrete interest and The Sun has gone further and stated that not a single club has approached Arsenal about the pair.

They further claim that we are now prepared to subsidise Ozil wages in order to see him gone.

Now, this is not actually about Ozil or Mustafi, it could be any of our players because when you have two players with international experience playing for a top-six Premier League side and no one wants them then you know something has gone badly wrong somewhere.

I mean, players with much less ability than these two in lower leagues can attract buyers and yes, of course, Ozil and Mustafi have large wages but even so, in this day and age with so much money sloshing around you have to think there is a club out there that can find a place for these two, are they really that toxic?

I do not think they are, for starters, it is thought that some Turkish clubs would love to sign Ozil and if we are prepared to subsidise his wages then why have they not come in for him and surely there is a Bundesliga club that would welcome Mustafi into their ranks.

There has to be more to this than what we are not seeing, it just does not make sense.

I know that both players had bad seasons and that they may no longer be Arsenal class but they are West Ham class or Monaco class or Atalanta class, I don’t know, they can definitely do a job for someone, somewhere, surely?

45 Comments

  1. They are both Muslim so maybe they wouldn’t mind going to Turkey. Ozil is loved in Turkey

    Maybe we could get some top Talent from Turkey in return and get rid of our two Turkeys at the same time…

    I don’t mind if we subsidise their wages as long as they go

  2. Abit much now with these ozil articles ,he’s not going anywhere so you’re wasting you’re time publishing this nonsense .
    You seem to have an problem with OZil Martin ,and all you’re doing is fuelling the flame for the rest of the ozil out brigade to post on this article .

    1. And until he is gone we will continue to publish articles about him, you see this is the thing, he is an Arsenal player and this is an Arsenal site.

      Give it time, it will come.

      1. then maybe try writing an article with some content which hasn’t been already told 10 times.. your articles are really bad and keep coming too fast for such a nonexistent content.. you know there are a lot of other arsenal players at arsenal too.. but yeah like you indirectly admitted a bit down.. I am sure you keep reposting the same article just for the clicks..

  3. As far as I am aware neither Mustafi nor Ozil have officially been put up for sale, so the fact that clubs do not appear interested is hardly surprising.To encourage interested parties Ozil should be made available on a free transfer basis and in the case of Mustafi he should be allowed to move on for say £10m to encourage potential suitors.I can see Mustafi being sold but I’m afraid Ozil will be with us until his contract expires.

  4. What have either done performance-wise to draw interest from other clubs?

    Mustafi is error prone as a CB and surely the ? of death for a defender. Ozil is an AM that hasn’t created chances for 2 top scorers, and often disappears during matches.

    Ozil draws fat wages in London and now has a wife to support on only few million in wages; he’s going nowhere except the bench for next couple years.

    Hope Emery tells Ozil, Mustafi, and Mhki that they have no future at Arsenal.

    If they are sold it will be for a massive loss, but fine with me to get them gone.

    Rather watch club struggle with Nelson on wing than Mhki or Ozil. Rather see Holding than Mustafi play as well.

    1. If Emery doesn’t give Ozil, Mustafi, and Mhki a squad number then put them training with the under 23’s they then might think there time is up and move on

  5. This adminmartin guy must be getting some stick from Pat regarding the level of replies and content matter.

    Not only are we getting recycled nonsense, the contents are just complete BS.

    Please let us know where the club have officially stated ANY of the innuendos you are so quick to refer to regarding Ozil…and PLEASE don’t insult our intelligence by quoting thesun!!!

    They reported that a London bus had been photographed on the moon.

    If you keep coming out with this BS about the same players day after day (funnily enough those players you personally seem to dislike) it will drive regular contributers away, even those who might initially agree with some of your thoughts.

        1. then maybe try writing an article with some content which hasn’t been already told 10 times.. your articles are really bad and keep coming too fast for such a nonexistent content

          1. And yet this article was sourced from two major UK newspapers and reported multiple times elsewhere but let me guess, an Ozil defender, right?

      1. That’s why I quoted the Sun, just a paper that looks out for people who believe everything they write.

        By the way, the bus on the moon was a No 34 to Arnos Grove, because the Sun says so.

        As for whining, it seems like that is being well covered by the articles you publish about him.

        Just see below how the thread goes away from this topic…we are all bored by Ozil and the endless speculation.

        1. Well, where to start Ken, ok, Daily Sport and not the Sun, so that kind of negates your attack on the sun and it is only those that object to any criticism of Ozil that are bored, not the vast majority as is proven by the high viewing numbers on Ozil articles. You will find there are not many Arsenal places you can go that support Ozil and the truly boring thing is all the same excuses being used by Ozil supporters, It is as if you think the massive majority that wants him gone are blind

          1. so I presume you keep writing almost the same article just for the viewing numbers.. that’s a bit cheap to be honest

            1. And yet you come back with the same sort of comments non stop, no one is forcing you to read the excellent fair and balance articles about Ozil.

          2. Admin Martin, so the daily Sport is highly recommended then as well as the Sun?
            Didn’t you quote the Sun in the article with a link?

            Look, I don’t really care about how many places I can go to support Ozil, I don’t need support of others to have a view about things.
            I also don’t give a fig as to how many the “massive majority” you state exists.
            I could argue about the massive majority of fans who put his name on their shirts, but, like your articles, it’s just repeating the same old statements (but I do have to smile when you ignore these facts while justifying rumours).

            What you really don’t seem to understand is this…if Ozil left tomorrow, I would say good luck to him and get on with supporting my club.

            As the main admin man, surely you see your job as being an impartial person who delivers facts and rumours, not to keep bringing your own prejudices with regurgitated BS onto the site in order to get responses.

            I note that you are now running a poll as to how much of Ozil’s salary we should pay to get him off the books…talk about boring ways of trying to justify your views and encourage even more splits in the fanbase.
            You hounded another forum yesterday for doing just that, so tell me what is it you are trying to achieve with all your Ozil posts?

            This isn’t about The Arsenal is it though, it’s your way of channeling your personal views about a player, currently on our clubs books, who you try to belittle at every opportunity…that’s not what I come onto this site to debate about and I’m pretty certain that’s not what you were put in to do.

            Enda, would love to know your views and how many articles about Ozil you want to read before you also get bored.
            At least I have an opinion and I’m not scared to voice it…if you want to debate with me, then let’s get it on and talk about EVERYTHING Arsenal, if you don’t then I won’t lose any sleep…can’t wait for your next post my fellow gooner.

            1. Well, nothing there I have not already heard before from Ozil defenders. You question my impartiality simply because I take the majority view that Ozil is not fit for purpose. Fair enough but it is not biased to say night follows day or that Tuesday follows Monday, these are facts and it is not biased to call out a player, any player for being utterly useless. But what is biased is to continuously defend the indefensible. People in glass houses and all that.

        2. Leave it out Ken your constant Pontificating about what people on this site want is tiresome. Going by your posts you have an enormous amount of self worth.

          1. well he IS right though.. if you don’t care about the qualities of the articles it says more about your self worth than his

          2. I would rather spend my day reading what Ken as to say than reading whatever you just said Enda .
            Instead of attacking a poster who actually reply’s and answers his views why don’t you tell us youres ,because this is the 1st time I’ve seen you post anything on here ,and the first thing you do is become personal.

          3. Admin Martin, I note that you haven’t given me the opportunity to reply directly with a tab, so I will do it through my friend Enda.

            It is interesting that you don’t deny your prejudices against Ozil, in fact you don’t address any of the criticisms against you.

            So I’ll ask you once again, what is it you are trying to achieve with all your Ozil posts, especially the latest “poll”?

            You state he is useless, that the massive majority support your views, so where do you want to take the discussion next?

            As for greenhouses, I refer you back to your article about another site yesterday.

            Defending the indefensible???…now there’s an article for you to think about involving Ozil.
            Why has UE continued selecting this utterly useless player? That will keep the Ozil project on the “just ozil” site going.

  6. Sorry about change of topic but need to just talk about people defending Emery and blaming the previous regime

    I hate it when people talk about previous regime for cursing problem for a team. This was said about Fergie but what has happened after spending millions.

    Ranieri used most of previous regime to win the EPL, Most of Man city winning team in 2017/2018 were from previous regime and none of this two teams perform like previous regime but look at what an amazing manager did to that team with few players mixed.

    Emery don’t need to change all the players but only need to mix few which he did.
    He went 21 unbeaten and none say it was the work of previous regime but rather a magic perform by the good tactician of a manager but when he collapsed at the end of the season, it was because of the previous regime.
    This doesn’t make any sense.

    1. I disagree.
      I am not saying that a 21 unbeaten run is magic from emery we had such runs also under wenger with the same(ish) players.
      To use a golf analogy. If a player has a slight problem they make a small tweek maybe with their grip. Things generally get worse for a while but then get better than before (hopefully). Football is no different emery has a style and wenger had a style sometimes players under wenger get better under emery as they fit the new style better others not. Therefore he needs time to coach those players or bring in players that fit his style.
      2 players that both stated this change last year were bellarin and mustafi. Now both are said to have got worse but they claim to be learning a lot. Let’s hope we have had the getting worse bit with them both and they improve this year.

    2. No mention of the crippling injuries? One of my major frustrations when I see people discussing Emery’s performance, is that hardly anyone brings up the subject of injuries.

      City are the only team that can cope with lots of injuries, as they have 2 quality players for every position. Not even Klopp could have coped with the same injuries that Emery has had to deal with. Could you imagine what they would have done with Van Dijk, and Trent missing over half the season, not to mention all the other injuries? The odd injury here and there, is to be expected, but Emery had a ridiculous amount to deal with, and so many were long-term and key players.

      We were just about scraping by as the season was drawing to close, and I said to my friend that one more key injury and we are finished. Look what happened. Ramsey gets injured, and our form nose dived.

      I felt so sorry for Emery.

      1. Right on, brother!
        Bellerin and Holding were in top form before they got injured. I believe they were sidelined during the 22 undefeated run. And their replacements were, for the most part, abysmal. Especially with having Koscielny coming back from a rough injury. I hope the club manages to address the back four issues properly during this transfer window.

    3. I wanted Arsene Wenger to quit Arsenal around 2008 but that doesn’t alter the fact that Wenger first ten years gave me the best football I’ve seen from an Arsenal side in sixty years of supporting the club. We all know he stayed to long but he’ll always be an Arsenal legend to me and people who have a go at previous regime have either short memories or no memory at all

      1. Kenny,I felt that Arsene should have announced his retirement after loosing the League Cup finals to City.This would have shaken things up with the board/ownership that loosing was no longer an option and would have stun the fans.He would be remembered differently then what he is being remembered now. The doyen of English football,his philosophy was ruined by a certain CEO and he kept quiet and accepted it. Pained to see some readers tarnish his image like DM/LVG at ManU. Unai is a fine manager but I feel that the ugly player power has raised its ugly heat at Arsenal (maybe he cannot handle inflated egos, based on his short stint at PSG). He worked wonders at Seville and Valentia with lesser known and lesser paid players. Winning 3 ELs with Seville and loosing with Arsenal speaks volumes of the players and their attitudes here. And as for the question posed, I would not choose those two players even for my village club that plays inter village football every Sunday!

        1. Your correct Gunner22, I was more concerned with people bashing Wenger than the regime.

  7. Just to change the subject, has anybody been watching this Copa America. Apart from the fantastic technique of the South American players there’s also the brilliant standard of referees. Mike Riley, instead of sunning himself on his holidays could learn a lot by watching these refs and taking his bunch of incompetent English refs along with him to be educated. The South American refs don’t let the players get away with anything, they know every con trick in the book unlike our dumb refs who without doubt are the most gullible in world football. The reason they’re so good is simple, they all have football in they’re blood. They know when a player is cheating and trying it on because South America is where con tricks, diving, acting etc all started. Maradona’s “Hand of God” was a typical example The problem with our refs is they do a three year university course in sociology then say to themselves “What shall I do for a living, I know, I’ll be a referee” never kicked a ball in they’re life but that doesn’t matter and within three years find themselves refereeing a Premier League game. What the answer you may say? Well, I’ve said this before, rotate the referees around Europe, have a different nationality every week arranged by EUFA. The game is now worth Billions, it would cut out the petty bias privileges that certain teams get and eventually even out the standard of refereeing across the whole of Europe.

    1. Kenny, agree 100% regarding the referees.
      Have you also been watching the women’s football?
      The standard on there is also excellent and how Riley keeps his position is a complete mystery.

      Did you keep your s/ticket Kenny? I hope you did!!!

      1. Got to say Ken, haven’t watched any of the Women’s World cup so far but I believe you when you say the standard of refereeing is better than in the Premier League. Don’t mean to patronise but can hardly be any worse. What does that say for Riley and his northern friends, not a lot. The season ticket? Yes Ken, I did renew as always, thanks for asking, I think you know me Ken, the thought of not going to Arsenal again is not an option. I threaten to give it up every year but when it comes round to renewing just can’t do it.

  8. What is concrete interest? We supposedly have had a concrete interest in a large number of players some we can’t even afford.
    I am not sure it is the right time to worry about not having sold any players.

    Having said that, I have said many times that fans are naive if they think this club has the skill to collect 100 million by selling our dead wood. We are not a particularly well run club.

    1. True… before anything I want the sales team kicked out.. the money we got for our players was always a joke to be honest.. we only sell the ones who have one year left or deadwood or they leave for free because the CEO is a joke.. Chelsea sold David Luiz when they didn’t want him for 40 mill or something.. every English players is being sold for at least 30-40 but the only good sale we have is the ox

    2. I LOVE THE HUGE UNDERSTATEMENT IN YOUR “NOT A PARTICULARLY WELL RUN CLUB”. Not by the board and owner anyway.

  9. We have terrible mistakes of overpaying players in the past but that trend does not seem like it’ll come to an end any time soon. The reported contract renewals of Auba, Laca and Guendouzi are prime cases in point. It is for this reason why we will continue to struggle to move players on – we are overpaying a lot of our squad members and this is particularly why players love to sign for us, I think.

  10. MUSTAFAILURE AND OZILAZY? Desire to stay comfortable on wage bills without will to play their hearts out?!! Time will tell.

  11. No way we can get rid of Ozil, too high wages. Might as well keep him and try to get the best out of him. Mustafi was one of the dumbest purchases I can remember. Trading Alexis for Mkhi for Alexis was dumb when we had to give him a new deal for the switch. Why commit to him? We have Auba, Laca, and Ozil, but we have absolutely nothing on the other wing. Stop blaming them when we get terrorized on the opposite wing due to no one being able to play the position. Add to the fact our midfield sucks and mustafi and xhaka continue to trade making mistakes giving away games. We need to invest in a real CB not pay 40 million for mustafi. If you take Mustafi fee and xhaka fee we got Virgil Van Djik fee. Buy a proper CB, get a box to box midfielder and we will compete. Promote a hungry youngster to play the wing. And we will be in CL again. Then we can buy a proper winger.

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