Jorginho and Trossard are great buys when you consider Arsenal’s more expensive targets

Have we benefitted by losing our main targets by Vinod

Yes, we were chasing Mudryk – and Chelsea hijacked him from us. But now we got Trossard who seems to fit in perfectly in the early few glimpses we saw from him. He is proven premier league player and we could use an experienced player in such a young squad. I think Mudryk is world class, but am not convinced by his end product, I mean his shot power is not that good as Martinelli’s, or even Trossard’s as far as the highlights I saw on YouTube.

We needed a back up for Martinelli or even someone who could pip him, and Trossard is a much better inexpensive alternative. We are doing so well with our main team and last thing we want is get in someone who doesn’t fit in, which could have been Mudryk. We did not need to spend 100 million for ruining our first team.

Now the same thing is happening with Jorginho. Caicedo is an amazing talent. But would he fit in? Maybe. 75 million for a player to sit on the bench while Partey is playing is not what we need. Maybe it would have been fantastic to have two quality players in the same position, but no matter how good Caicedo is, he is not getting into the team if Partey is fit. So 75 million for a squad player is too much.

Here too we got the same result which we got in the case of Mudryk. We are getting someone else instead with similar profile of Trossard in Jorginho.

We needed squad depth, and spending too much money for second string doesn’t make sense. We are getting bargain deals and are quite wise if they were done if we did not consider the expensive guys forementioned. Even if they don’t fit in we don’t lose a lot.

But I’m sure Jorginho will do just fine, a defensive midfielder who can dictate the play as well, exactly the kind of player we need. He is a reasonable alternative to Caicedo. Only thing that needs to be seen is; does he still have the drive to achieve things.

Hope Arteta gets into his head.

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121 Comments

  1. With Caicedo, the quoted fees were ridiculous. After all he’s just a defensive midfielder.

    With Mudryk, it was the right call only if he doesn’t end up becoming the new Hazard or Mbappe or similar.

    1. you have to try 5 players with same kind of money to get one success, Arsenal is not yet ready for that!

  2. Jorginho is what is needed at this stage of our campaign an experienced player that’s been there and done it he’s a short term back solution until the summer I think it’s smart business bringing him in he can dictate the game feeding the wings and odegard

    1. What a deluded comment ,.didnt many fans said the same about cech,willian who was disinterested every time i saw him play for us,or luiz who cost us game after game with red cards and penalties ,should we think like a big club we call ourselves and not buy washed up ex chelsea players ,

      1. “or luiz who cost us game after game with red cards and penalties ”
        Way to pin blame on one player when everyone around him was playing badly. Luis didn’t do badly at AFC.
        So I guess you are saying that we should have spent 100 million of Caicedo..

      2. Except that they all came from Chelsea it’s very different, Frankie. Cech, Willian, Luis were integral first teamers supposed to make poor teams better and be our backbone. Jorginho is backup to an excellent first team. He cost only £10m+ on 18 month contract. He’s better than Lokonga or Elneny to cover and rest Partey. We keep funds and team spots intact to get Rice etc in Summer, when more players are available and prices are less. We dont NEED world beaters now, we need cover and we got it. You think a £90-£100m offer for a guy worth £30-40m as a reserve is good business? We’d be bust in a season. We all want money spent when it’s not our money…

    2. exactly

      we need a couple of experienced heads to led the team

      we have way too many u25yo players in the team

  3. I would say for the majority of the league, Jorginho will probably work when Arsenal are controlling the play. That’s his skill set. He keeps things ticking with good positioning and passing, but he cannot defend. I hope if this is the only midfield signing made, and if Partey gets injured, Arteta looks for someone like Ben White or the new guy they signed to step into the midfield against the bigger sides.

    1. why did we sign him then if were gonna use White over jorginho? Jorginho has no legs at all. He can only play against sides that park the bus. Better pray Partey is fit for all our big games.

      1. I see him as a Xhaka backup cus Elneny is out. I haven’t watched much of him but he just seems like a better version of Elneny.

      2. Was starting to have a lot of optimizism about Arsenal. But buying finished players surely. Next summer we will need to buyer another midfielder. And we keep buying thesefinished Chelsea players. Very frustrating. 31 aaaaaa

  4. Its a disgrace and heads should roll should we not win the league. Firstly we knew what the clubs wanted for both Mudryk and Caicedo however we tried to low ball them both and lost out. Now we are lumbered with two players who don’t fit the profile we have been following and to me look like panic buys. Its just embarrassing from the club and if i was the likes of Saka and Saliba I would have no intention of staying at a club that wont spend an extra 30 million to push on for success. Edu needs to resign, how many ex chelsea players we going to try before one works. Rather have Xhaka at dm than jorginho because he’s quicker, which says it all really !!!!!!

    1. Very disappointed with the jorginho aquisition. Cannot be the replacement for partey. Honestly, I believe edu just wanted to populate arsenal with as much Brazilian players as possible.. tactically, jorginho will be a liability against mobile midfield opposition. He is slow and can easily be moved off the ball. But I think he is just a pawn in the next aquisition of decland rice. If arsenal had gotten caicedo, then rice would not be bought. You can’t have rice, partey and caceido vie for only one position. But ultimately, we will be royally stuffed if partey is injured

      1. He is Italian but don’t worry.
        Your intellect is on par with most of the plastic gooners posting negative crap about him.
        Grow up and support the club and get behind the manager and team.

        1. He’s Brazilian by birth dimwit, just chose to represent Italy. Do some research before pretending to be smarter than you actually are

    2. Overreaction, Liam. We are not a moneybags club and I wouldn’t want us to be. Anything good is sweeter when you build rather than buy it. So Edu screwed up on the White, Odegaard, Tomi, Zinchenko, Jesus, Ramsdale, Trossard, did he? Don’t become an entitled fan. We dont pay double the value since Pepe (remember him) – is that a bad thing; £10m not £100m for a player who will be only BACKUP this season, leaving summer cash for Rice? You forget where we have got to with Edu, Arteta and Kronke money and where we were a couple of seasons ago? 5 clear at the top with Partey/Xhaka/Odegaard/ESR in midfield not making you happy obviously. We are all disappointed but dont knock your own team.

    3. 100 mil and 70 mil for Mudryk and Caicedo respectively is not low balling by any stretch of imagination. I think Mudryk is worth 50/60 mil max. Caicedo is a 30/35 mil player in my books. Spending 100 or 70 mil on back up players is not smart business at all. Chelsea inflated the market this window. It will be different in the summer. Moat teams have acquired and there won’t be alot of competition as it has been in this.

      I think Jorghinio will be used sparingly. His ability to control play will be an asset in selected matches, especially against teams that pack the bus like Newcastle against us. To get him at 10m is a steal imo.

      A net spend of 50mill this window means we spare enough to chase after a good defensive target in the summer for around 50/60 mil, which for me is smart business.

  5. We needed Caicedo so we don’t drop off if Partey isn’t fit. Arsenal has become a retiring home for Chelsea players over the years.

    Edu was actually brought in by Sanhelli and his performance has been poor. He’s only a Brazilian/Portuguese specialist and struggles to negotiate for players who aren’t Brazilian or Portuguese speaking.

    He and Sanhelli destroyed our scouting system so we can’t pick young developing players as Brighton does.

    In place of the scouting system they set up shop with Kia and Mendes who often holidays with him on Yacht. Through Kia/Mendes axis they bought Luiz, Willian, Pablo Mari, Lucas Toriera, Cedric and now Joghinho. In fact but for Arteta Edu would’ve bought Royal, Neto and Arthur ( from Juve to Liverpool on loan) on the books of the aforementioned superagents

    We should sack Edu and bring in the Brighten recruitor. Edu is only interested in personal self promotion so he’s always speaking to the press.

    1. Yeah Howard, Tierney, White, Kiwior, Tomi, Zinchenko, Partey, Odegaard, Lokonga, Trossard and Jorginho speak Portuguese/Spanish 🙄

  6. I said I wouldn’t look at my phone but you do have to laugh…

    Chavs:

    “Cheers M8, you have just paid the Mudryk add ons. Word of warning though… make sure he is next to Arteta on the bench as he hasn’t got the legs to get up and down them stairs”

    “If you bought Loftus-Cheek we would have thrown him and Kante in for free. Bonus!!”

    “He can be a good player on his day if he doesn’t have to move.”

    Even the Spuds are at it:

    “Fella, we have a Harry Winks if you are interested?”

    🤣🤣

      1. Arteta will make him better than most people think. Chelsea might say why did we let him go? Do you Robin? Sallah? Debruyn? Those were the players who failed at Chelsea.

        1. @soccerboy, those were YOUNG talented players released by a dinosaur manager who specialized in 9-1 tactics. Joginho didn’t fail at Chelsea! It’s just that his good days seem to be over at 31! Can’t compare the two.

          1. Fifa is a joke, still trolling every topic that my fellow Gooners -which excludes you – raise on JA. You are not a Gooner at all. You don’t behave as one. Ever!

            I have long suspected you to be a troll from your constant criticism of EVERYTHING AFC ever does. Five points clear and you are still unhappy and angry.

            Well, rival fans which I BELIEVE YOU ARE, WILL BE UNHAPPY.

            IT ALL FITS, YOU ARE A TROLL.

            1. No jon hes a true fan unlike you naive and bend over ….dont question anything that edu does .hes 100 % right washed up players retirement home for ex chavs players you cant actually be ok with that can you????

              1. Frankie Any chance of putting that in understandable English? I cannot understand what you are trying to say.

  7. I am just glad we did not spend £80 millions on Mudryk and £80 million on Caicedo.. That would have been a joke..

    Very relieved that we can keep that money for the summer when deals will be much more reasonable..

    I know many people are disappointed as I am myself but as always let’s get calm our emotions down. I have come to let Arsenal, Arteta and Edu do their jobs and they have not done such a bad job if you have a look at where we are at the moment.

    As the saying goes, “It’s not advisable to make big decisions when one’s emotions are all over the place”..

    Let’s all clam down, breathe In and Out. It well be okay.
    😊

    1. deals will be much more reasonable? Everyone here is hoping we get Declan Rice, fine. How much you think he’s gonna cost? Over 90mill for sure. The crazy market isn’t going anywhere if Arsenal are still interested in sought after players. Every club in Europe knows every English club has tons of cash to burn.

      1. They’re just trying to justify the signing of a slow 31 yr old Chav with 5 months left for 12 mil PLUS two years’ salary! Bonkers!

        1. Fifa i totally agree with you .i would ve had a tremendous respect for edu to come out and say guys with cant afford to get any player in january .i woulve been ok with that then chasing a supertalent who ended up joining chelsea for a couple of more silver ,same with caicedo i would reither have adacemy player step up then make us believe they have ambitions and going after GOOD players like caicedo ,no but he donates 12m for a player with5 months left on his contract to chelsea to help them get enzo

    2. Well said Goonster. I get the disappointment but not the sense of entitlement that some fans suddenly have about other people’s money. I thought fans were starting to unite behind the club but the demands to sack a guy who got us Ode, Tomi, White, Zinchenko, Jesus, Partey, Trossard are ridiculous. But any fan who wants stability and for us to not be bankrupt in 2 seasons, whilst drawing attention to us being top playing great football is deemed unambitious. £100m for a substitute worth £30-40m is surely the right way to go…!

  8. Vinod with all due respect there’s nothing “great” in this shambles. Being a supporter doesn’t mean rationalizing bad ideas/choices that are a result of individual incompetence. We call it like it is, Edu is clueless and is clearly the obstacle to us moving to another level. Arteta has done his bit on the pitch. He (Edu) must own this shambles, he is rudderless,. Edu lacks the intelligence needed to survive in the murky world of football transfers that i’ve always equated to poker. We’ve just spent 12 mil + 2 yr wages on a 31 yr old with 5 months left on his contract! THINK VINOD! THINK!

      1. yes. it’s not my money. i want to have the best chance possible to win the league. I dont care about bragging about how little we spent to do it.

      2. Think Goonster THINK!!! The 80 mil would be spent on a 21 yr old tied to a long-term deal with an option to extend! Spread the 80 mil over the 6-8 yrs of the contract and you’ll see sense. We just paid 12 mil+ 2yrs wages to a 31 yr old and we STILL need to buy another mid in the summer. Now imagine if the money WAS pooled together and bought a 80 mil player that solves the problem for close to a decade? THINK!

        1. We are top of the league, because we have followed a stringent strategy building a team of players brought in for under 50m and developed together with players from our own ranks to get us a very well working unit.
          We should be adhering to strategy untill we have a squad with sufficient depth and quality.
          Sooner than expected, we now hmay have a chance of winning the league, if the 12-13 players, who have started almost every game can keep up their performance level.
          If one or two of them should get a long term injury, we have back-up to see us through this season, and still have an outside chance of winning the league.
          No matter what happens this season, we still have to develop or get another 4-5 players, before we have a full squad to compete for both PL and CL.
          Maybe tha tis worth a thought instead of headless spending of 80-90m.
          Maybe that is worth a thought instead of headless spending n

          1. YES, we need 4-5 players to compete in both competitions BUT effing Joginho, a retiring Chav, is not and will never be one of them. He does not improve us in any way!

          2. Well said Anders. The attitude of some fans and vitriole towards management who have brought us such a long way is staggering. Everything is a failure of management unless it involves us spending huge sums of money. I am pretty sure many of those shouting loudest were also vocal in RETROSPECTIVELY criticising our purchase of Pepe and our last contract for Auba.

            1. Wow, thank you and AndersS!
              Some sanity amongst the madness.
              It is obvious that the negativity comes from people who were not around in the 70s/80s or have no appreciation of our history. Let’s call them the fifa game nerds.
              We are building something positive and these guys want to tear out the foundation. How can there be any negative feeling towards Edu? Get behind the club, support the team and if you have nothing positive to say, be quiet and respectful.

              1. Merciless ,what history? I was around in the 70s and 80s when Arsenal were a middling club managed by the likes of Terry Neal and Don Howe, playing boring football. The board were a bunch of stingy old toffs who rarely signed anyone and when they did it was a used up Alan Ball or some defensive midfielder like Talbot. Fortunately we had the Irish trio of Brady, Stapleton and O’Leary to hold the fort. The only two decent players they brought in were Malcolm McDonald who was so unlucky with a career ending injury and Kenny Samson. Stop trying to justify poor decision making. Spending a hundred and forty million on two players who will take you into the future makes a lot more sense than spending forty million on two players who will be worthless in two years time.

        2. Patronise much?

          Try thinking yourself and you might avoid being both patronising and illogical.

          8 year deals for 21 year olds are a bad idea, which is why UEFA has banned them after this window.

          For all your emotive shouting all over this forum, I see very little sense in what you’re saying. Edu is doing a great job to all but a couple of people (whose views are not backed up by much of anything).

          BTW it’s not 2 years wages, it’s 17 months.

          1. @IdontKnowWhyIcare

            Actually, UEFA didn’t ban anything they only caped amortization at four years! But that’s beside my point. Here is a simple example, Martinelli has just extended his stay at Arsenal to 2024, meaning he’ll be around for 7+ years. See what I was referring to? Maybe you’re the only one that didn’t understand what I meant and instead of seeking clarification, you chose to go ham.

      3. I think you miss the point Goonster.

        It is not about what we didn’t buy but is what we are about to buy.

        I was more than happy with the 2 recruitment’s that we acquired this January but the latest addition is a nonsense and especially from Chel$ea.

        This stinks of a Mikaël Silvestre bargain buy and as we all know nothing ever has come good from buying from the chavs. It has always been pure poison to any aspirations we had.

        We have just made their day by purchasing a player that they have called out on numerous occasions by his own fans as a ‘Liability’ due to his lack of mobility and pace.

        But because we are desperate for ‘bodies’ it appears that our new transfer strategy is anything will do. 😱

        I can’t even see where he fits in, unless we going to start playing quarter back football as he can not get around the pitch and we are now a team that now play press and move? He doesn’t fit the age profile or Edu’s transfer policy

        “We have to go into the market for exciting players with the right age, right attitude and right mentality. We want to see a club like Arsenal with a young squad, an exciting squad with a big, big future because as I said last summer, the idea is to have a young squad. We want to give them the opportunity to play together for two, three, four, five or six seasons.”

        But it is what it is and lets just pray that Partey and Xhaka stay fit until the end of the season as seeing Jorginho wear the colours makes me quite nauseous.

      4. Yes let them spend money for success.
        Chelsea,Manu, Liverpool have all won European trophy prizes because the spend at right time and quality players.
        Wenger Era he overlooked Ronaldo, Yaya, ibrahimovich, hazard, Suarez, kante,..
        Look at Liverpool are buying forwards Nunez, Gagbo, Luis, Fabio, just within a year. We always say money is too much and we lossr players to other ambitious teams. Edu is a failure in transfers he wants only Brazilian players. Jorghino is a Brazilian, Luiz, Willians, Jesus, Martinelli , Gabriel he bidded for Douglas Luiz ..villa. if we don’t win this league we’ll regret not buying mudry,Felix and caicedo forever.

    1. 12 mil is nothing and Elneny is injured for the rest of the season. He’s replacing Elneny as backup to Xhaka.

      What has Edu done wrong exactly? Most of his transfers have been great. We’re in 1st precisely because of our transfers over the last 2 summers.

        1. 12 mil is something to u, yet u think 80mil is nothing for arsenal to spend. No matter what you all say, this is the best we can get now to allow us to get wat we want later in the summer

      1. Elneny has 6 months on his contract so will be leaving in the summer.

        But we have replaced him with a player who is in the same boat at Chelsea and a year older and less mobile. But we offer him a 18 month contract with a further year.

        And we all supposedly want rid of Elneny.

        So yeah, it’s only 12 million… sound bit of a business.

        1. We have replaced him with a player who can actually play.

          Elneny is out for the season, needing knee surgery.

          He won’t be getting another contract after his 66 days out earlier on – all this as a backup who’s hardly ever called on to play.

          1. Elneny will get a one year extension. Arsenal is a class club that does not cast players in the last throes of their contract out if they are injured [remember Santi Cazorla]. What is more, he deserves it for being a faithful servant to the club.

            1. Sorry but no-one “deserves” £X million as a reward for doing work – for which they were paid very large amounts of money.

              If Elneny gets an extension it will be because the club believes he can be sold on, not due to some twee nostaligic nonsense.

              And good luck selling him on with this season’s injury record…

              Ever heard of 25-man squad limit?

  9. Remember this day.

    If we do not win the title this season, remember this day.

    Last season not bringing players we needed, cost us the CL.

    13/14 not bringing in reinforcements cost us the title.

    Remember this day in May. Praying for Xhaka and Parteys health. Please don’t let anything happen to them.

    1. Calm yourself down. Stop hyperventilating.
      Chelsea and Spurs pipped us into the Top 4 last season. How are they doing this season so far?

      It’s not the end of the world mate.
      😊

      1. Goonster the ultimate prawn sandwich fan ,nickless bender and fifa its a joke ,are both 100% more arsenal fan then you “its not the end of the world ” of course its not .you cant possibly think jorginho its a good aqcusition because its “cheap and more experience ” we need hungry young players not washed up disinterested ex xhavs players who won it all .fifa its a joke its right on every comment

    2. We DID bring in players, DaJuhi. That you don’t rate Jorginho worthy of being an adequate short term cover for Partey is another matter. I happen to think he’s still way better than Elneny and will be fine. You and a few others seem to be wishing that he plays and is awful just to prove a point. The guy hasn’t kicked a ball and you are ripping into him.

  10. I’m with you Vinod. Trossard and Jorginho are here because we are five points in front of City and are competing for the title at least 12 months ahead of schedule. They can do the job now and don’t harm the long term project.

    While others say these signings are proof Edu hasn’t learnt from precious window (e.g. Vlahovic), my reading of it is exactly the opposite. He went hard for the first choice but, unlike last year, pivoted quickly when that option hit a brick wall and completed Plan B.

    1. In the case of Jorginho I think it is more of a plan C or D. The main things going for him are PL experience with a top team and winning trophies. He has good passing range and at his best could control the pace of.a game. However, his lack of pace, mobility and dynamism have been an increasing issue in recent seasons.
      He has probably been signed as back up to Partey but from what I have seen of him recently he could get found out, particularly in the PL. He could however be useful in the EL and against certain types of opposition. At the moment he is an underwhelming signing but we will see.

  11. I think they are good deals for the short term, keeping in mind that Jorginho will add experience and leadership to the current young squad. Let’s not have a negative attitude, and the player has not really kicked a ball in an Arsenal shirt.

    1. As funny as Jorginho in an Arsenal shirt.🤣

      Because we don’t agree on something doesn’t mean we are being negative.

      If you care to see my post at 1:52 you will some of us are finding it quite humorous.

    2. What is negative in what they are saying. It’s indeed laughable to pay 12m pound for a player Chelsea is happy to let go for free. Shouldn’t they be happy they are saving his 5 month salary just like we did for Auba, Chambers, Kolasinac LT. It’s now clear we are the only fans and club that accept such wastage. I don’t even bother about what he brings as player. This wastage has to stop.

      1. Wastage such as demanding we pay £80+ for a player valued by experts at £30-40m? That incidently applies to Mudryk too. He is free only if we wait until summer and you know it, and you also know that we need him now because of Elneny’s recent injury. I also suspect that you know that despite losing pace, he still offers us more than Elneny ever has.

    3. My thoughts exactly Slye. I thought the fanbase was moving back to a united positivity but unfortunately not.

    4. You are so right. They are acting like cows baying at the moon in futility.

      What all the screamers are forgetting is that Mikel Arteta wants him. Edu Gaspar did not just go to Chelsea and pick any player.

      Screaming and ranting will not get rid of Gaspar. People have choices – support the new player and team or support another team or stay silent.

      Personally, I believe that Jorginho will turn out be a useful player to have. The calls for depth have been addressed. Time to support the gaffer in his attempt to achieve what so many detractors thought impossible.

  12. I detest Chelsea. To think that we’ve partially solved their conundrum while paying double their book valuation! Masterstroke by Edu. Eff this

  13. Would Moises move into the DM role next year, with Thomas in the ADM role? Xhaka to bench, backing both with Thomas sliding between roles? We’ll forget the Rice talk for the moment

  14. Surely we are going to sign another midfielder? Seems like we are leaving ourselves very short with Elneny confirmed to have had surgery which means we probably won’t see him again this season and Lokonga going on loan to Crystal Palace. Let’s be clear Jorginho’s best position is the Lone 6 role in a Midfield 3 so he is back up for Partey, but who will be cover Xhaka if he is unavailable? That’s why I fail to believe we would choose to leave ourselves short again.

    Why not go to Sheffield United and offer them £25M-£30M for Sander Berge, would be a relatively low risk signing, could play the advanced 8 position, scores goal from midfield, would add height and is Norwegian teammates of Odegaard.

  15. The last time I checked, kiwior played more as a dm than he played as a cb. Ben white can also do a job there, jorginho like I have said is for xhaka and elneny. The only place with no cover is st. Imagine! God forbid nkethia is injured? Then another problem is with lokonga leaving. That leaves us short. I suspect we may pull that caicedo deal. Fingers crossed.

  16. t’s not impossible that Brighton didn’t want to sell, but succession planning says they should have 2 or 3 other targets. Jorgino cannot run and cannot tackle. Arsenal in first and sign Jorginho Chelsea signing Fernandez. Kronke did famously say he didn’t buy Arsenal to win trophies so I guess we shouldn’t be surprised. I am sure there are better players than this Chelsea reject Arsenal could have gotten, but Edu and co are useless!!!!

  17. We have purchased two experienced Premiership players. Are they brilliant: No
    We are in the best position for winning the league in 19 years.
    I would prefer experience over young exciting players for this season.
    However, if we fail to win Premiership this summer I fear clubs that are prepared to spend big will leave us waiting another 19 years.
    I am a very optimistic Arsenal supporter – Who believes in Arteta .

  18. Never had a player from chelski perform yet all been huge flops and past there sell by date so we are due 1 to do a half decent job for us hopefully this is it!

  19. Trossard was a shrewd signing and Jorginho is obviously a stop gap who probably won’t see many minutes in the PL anyway if all players stay fit but will be a capable back up .
    Would have liked us to push for Ceicedo but that looks dead so this is the next best we could get by the looks of things .

    1. I wonder why some fans can’t simply understand this. We can panic now and buy the wrong player that won’t improve us, or buy experienced and wait till summer

  20. If we win the league, they will be amazing signings. If we dont, questions will be asked and fingers will be pointed.

  21. While my initial reaction to the possible signing of Jorgino was unfavourable, after consideration, and bearing in mind the relatively modest outlay involved,I can appreciate why Arteta is keen to bring him in as we enter the business end of the season.First of all, he brings with him a wealth of experience at the upper end of Club and International football and despite his lack of pace(he never was quick in any case) he has an ability to retain possession in tight situations and he is a progressive passer of the ball when suitable opportunities arise.I see him being used as a back up to Partey in Europa Cup matches and I expect him to feature occasionally from the bench.The injury to Elneny and the possibility of Lokonga joining Palace on loan, suggests to me that we may still be in the market for another midfielder or can we recall the improving Patino from his loan to Blackpool.In any event, it does look like Declan Rice will be our number one target next season and I for one will be delighted to welcome him to Arsenal.

    1. Jorginho is a good signing. Vastly experienced midfield controller. 8/10
      Leo Trossard our new Sanit Cazorla…ish. 9/10
      Two ****Ing good signings. Premier League here we come.

    2. The same ones that slagged off Wenger for Cech see no problem with this. Just like they hail Arteta for signing Willian.

      1. Let’s get behind the team and manager but let it be sounded to ARTETA AND EDU..IF WE LOSE THIS LEAGUE WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE BOTH OF THEM NO MATTER WHAT…LET ARTETA REALIZE WE ONCE LOVED A GREAT MANAGER CALLED ARSEN WENGER… BUT WHEN HE SCREWED UP WE CAME FOR HIM AND HIS GONE FOR GOOD NOW..I HOPE ARTETA N EDU WILL NOT END UP THE SAME..I WISH THEM WELL WITH JORGHINO SIGNING

    3. Grandad, my initial reaction was the same as yours. Then when thinking about where he will play, and after seeing his stats, I changed my mind. He’s a far better fit if Partey is unavailable than either El Neny or Lokonga.

  22. Partey = Midfield Controller
    Jorginho = Midfield Controller

    In reality the both are Midfield Controllers

  23. Low-key I just want to hear jorginho say he’s been an arsenal fan since he was born in his interview….I can’t wait 😭😭

    1. Ha ha! I saw Bissouma’s Spurs interview then I remembered him and his agent repping arsenal on his socials. They’ll say what they’re told to say no shame no nothing.

  24. Jorginho is the replacement for Elneny. An upgrade, and a cool head with lots of experience. Not bad at all, and leaves the bank balance looking ok for some big summer signings. Shame Brighton would not accept the 70m bid, but what can you do? Under the circumstances it’s turned out ok.

  25. What downward stupid disheartening article do you consider us as a big team? If so then edu and arteta should identify the players they want and go and actually get THEM not mess around ,you got to think like a big team ,hows jorginho great buy when you re after caicedo and end up with washed up chelsea reject ,edu didnt learn anything from luiz cech,willlian etc,.. if you think thats great business then you deluded ,that shows no ambition at all ,al least lets hope saka stay eitherwise we f. Ked . I can see us bottling it like last season when we had partey injuried .

  26. I believe Jorginho will come in great under Artetas tutelage, lead. It’s an opportunity for Jo; he won’t allow it slip away at the twilight of his career he still desires to leave a mark on the sands of time. An EPL and Europa cups title highly, likely beckoning.

  27. So, Jorginho is slower than Xhaka, not known for tackling or mobility, yet on passing alone his is an upgrade?

    Oh Experience too, similar to what Willian brought when he came to us. Please keep Partey healthy; imagine a midfield with Xhaka and Jorginho; Arteta could outrun both on the sideline.

    Rather see Kiwor play and get experience, or White covering for Partey injury and Tomi at RB than Jorginho in the midfield.

  28. Just because certain older players came from rivals and didn’t do so well in the past doesn’t mean it will be the same with jorginho. These are individual human beings, with different motivations and expectations. Jorginho is also joining a completely different setup to the previous examples who “failed” (mixed results in truth, but i can’t call any of silvestre, cech, willian or Luiz a real success) – he’s joining a team at the top of the league that’s clearly focused on winning the title; it’s a completely different situation that would motivate any player worth consideration.
    In this case I also think there is a place in the first team that’s almost a perfect fit for his preferred playing style – he is a deep lying playmaker, not unlike arteta was when he played for arsenal, so I expect he’d be a far more suitable backup for partey than our current options. I do think we’d miss Partey’s physical presence in particular when he’s not playing, but you expect to lose something with a backup. Had we signed caicedo instead, his relative lack of experience may have been an issue, so who knows?
    I don’t know if this is a good signing, in truth, but i see the logic and can only believe they’ve done their homework and understand his motivations for joining – that’s the important part imo.

    1. Arteta was hardly some one you would hold as some sort of criteria when he was playing for Arsenal. The dude passed from side to side & slow as hell. Just because he is doing wonders as a manger this season does not make him a good ex Arsenal player, he was a panic buy that was not Arsenal level. Plus you argument does not make sense that is how normally an sensible person behaves you buy stuff from a company and if that company keeps selling you crap low quality product you don’t go back yo them again and again so you might get a quality product. Every player we have bought from Chelsea have either been completely shxt or have been avg at best still you go out and buy their washed off player who is coming from the position which has been a problem for Chelsea this year. So you are buying a player who has contributed to struggle of his club as he did not perform well in his position. That makes you genius. Now there is a chance he would just be awesome for Arsenal but sensible people base things on probability not chances.

      1. Arteta was a decent player for us. I agree not amazing, and not as good as Partey, but he’d have been a solid backup option for the position we’re talking about.

        “Plus you argument does not make sense that is how normally an sensible person behaves you buy stuff from a company and if that company keeps selling you crap low quality product you don’t go back yo them again and again so you might get a quality product”
        We’re not talking about a product that Chelsea is making or distributing, we’re talking about a person we’re hiring, so realistically it’s your analogy that doesn’t make sense…
        Like I said, I don’t really know if this is a good signing or not – I see the logic of it in terms of his fit for the position, I’ll just wait and see before judging. Arteta and edu have earned a bit of trust recently, but maybe this will turn out to be a bad move (I haven’t really followed Chelsea too closely this season, and we won’t always get it right) – we’ll see.

  29. Trossad yes for the price and he was performing but not Jorginhio. Its very simple no one though Jorginhio was good in Arsemal fan base and he did not have to many Chelsea supporters either but now all of a sudden I see Arsenal fellow fans just saying rubbish that he is the real deal and will help us win title, what a clever signing he is and Areta will get the best out of him blah blah blah. We have been there with Willian before with same manager, hell willian was way better then Ginio qt Chelsea n look what happened. No matter what some of blind folded edu supporters say but if you look at over all player transfer under Edu it was 50-50 but now its titled on bad side. How can a club who has been chasing a DM for two transfer window end up with a washed away player who is not even young so you could say the manager will turn him around. That is just poor business not to get a quality DM in during two transfer windows.

    1. All you needed to say in one sentence is that getting Jorginho is poor business. There, fixed.

      We now have squad depth and move forward. Time for fans to support the team, or be toxic towards players [remember Willian?] and cause rupture.

  30. Unhappy with Jorginho’s deal as we had a bad experience with Chelsea’s “old” players. But I understand that we are looking for cheaper and more experience options, on top of that, players willing to be benched like Elneny.

    1. Jorginho would not have been my first choice and both Edu and Arteta have been slack this window, BUT Jorginho has played where Partey does for years so I get why Arteta wanted him. He’s only just turned 31 and will do a job if Partey cannot play. He is a vastly experienced player and can really help us in our pursuit of the PL title. Trossard is 100% top quality. We are on the way.

  31. I think if we’re getting merely covers, Gioginho’s perfect apart from from his ball winning abilities, but with Lokonga gone thought we needed some more numbers in case of Partey’s injuries, barring that, think we got a decent window especially with capture of trossard for cheap. COYG.

  32. Chelsea had another great window. Bought our targets then sold us another Chelsea reject. From Douglas Luiz, Danilo, Caicedo, just to end up with Jorginho. Guess we can only hope Partey has a miracle season and doesn’t pick up a 2-3 month injury this year. What a disappointment ending to the window

    1. Reporter to Cucurella: “Who’s the smartest player at Cheslea?”
      Cucurella: “The smartest player in the squad is Jorginho, 100 per cent.”

  33. Glad to see the end of the second season “All For Nothing” Part 2. That was a roller-coaster ride. Act 1, we were in for the new Neymar, the next, we were settling for Leandro Trossard. Act 2, we were in the running for a blockbuster deal with the lovable Caicedo, the next, we were settling for a senior citizen from Chelsea. No fireworks as yet. But who really cares. Expect fireworks at season end, just after we win the league.

  34. I’m very happy with winter transfer window. The £100m for Mudryk and £80m for Caicedo would have been an abomination considering both players are not first eleven players. Buying £20m Trosaard and £12m Jorginho are fanstastic piece of business considering both are experienced long time EPL performers and both are adequate backups. Keep the first eleven firing while having quality options on the bench. All this while Chelsea and their new owner going crazy in the transfer market. Well done Edu and Arteta.

  35. I dont understand some Arsenal fans in terms of their apathy towards Jorginho. He was the UEFA mens player of the year in 2021, winning the CL with Chelsea and the Euros with Italy. He is a cool headed player with a proven winners mentality. He is not sideways passing as assumed, as per the stats below:
    In the past season and a half, has averaged more passes in the final third per game (20.4) than Caicedo (14.7) and more forward passes too (20 to 14.5).
    Jorginho has also carried the ball more successfully (109m per game to Caicedo’s 97) and wins possession more often (8.3 times per game to 6.7).
    The 31-year-old is leading Chelsea in terms of ball recoveries per game, interceptions and tackles this season – oh, and he’s pretty reliable from the penalty spot too.
    Given all this I feel Arteta and Edu have done a fantastic job in getting Trossard and Jorginho and I feel we are good to go and win the title.

  36. I hope this does not come back to haunt them. Typical arsenal don’t want to spend money to win titles. It’s not a good image if you consistently can’t buy top players and claim you are a big club. We are coasting on the past and can’t even do a little bit extra to get this team to win this year. Jorginho is not going to sell kits that’s for sure. Caicedo could have paid for himself with kits sales. He will help close out wins and that’s the only reason Arteta brought him in. We need another dm, Caicedo or another young and physical as dm. Arsenal could and should have gone for another dm if Brighton refused to sell their player at a reasonable price. The fans were crying for arsenal to bring a decent priced dm, not an old Chelsea almost reject. We took him off for a decent money too. This was not a good signing and for once I wish had listened to the fans. However we are winning the league.

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