Martin Keown has strongly criticised Aaron Ramsdale for his positioning during Arsenal’s match against Fulham, particularly as the team conceded an early goal.
The opening goal was scored by Andreas Pereira, who capitalised on a mistake by Bukayo Saka. However, Ramsdale’s positioning was also questioned, as he appeared to be too far off his line, making it easier for Pereira to find the net.
This isn’t the first instance of Ramsdale being caught out of position; he displayed a similar tendency last season as well.
After the goal, Keown said on the BBC:
“This was something we saw often at the end of last season when Arsenal didn’t take advantage of their lead in the title race.
“Ramsdale is so far off his line, he does this so often and I’m not sure why, and Pereira shoots into the near post.”
Just Arsenal Opinion
Ramsdale must begin to do better, knowing that there is a superb goalkeeper on the bench in David Raya.
The Spaniard would relish the chance to become the number one and is certainly waiting to be called up for a game so that he can show what he can do.
Ramsdales position was awful.
Arteta please if u can’t use party at the midfield sell him, why do you have to experiment party at the right back simply because you want to bench Gabriel?
Am worried now, the Englishman may not start against Man United
Arteta is an Evertonian who is trying to experiment a soccer system reinventing on the Gunners, the earlier he realises that he is miles away from Pep the better for the club
Arteta is man with faut in this match not the keeper pls the formation he used in this game is totally absurd just look at how the team is struggling
Ramsdale must b benched…Havertz must just go back where he came from and what’s wrong with Gabriel??? Today’s draw courtesy of Arteta…
Raya deserves a start.
Ramsdale is way overated.
And what was Edu and Arteta smoking when they signed Havertz
The guy is good 🧗
He just needs time and trust to adapt fully to the Arsenal style of play
Eizy, where are we going to be by the time he adapts?. You’re talking about time, how much time do we have in the Premier league to give to someone with 3 years experience with Chelsea. Are you seriously saying Arsenal paid £65million to groom him?
I can tell you we are 100 days away from knowing for sure where we are going to finish the league, and 30 days away from getting knocked out of the champions league. Stop giving cheap excuses for expensive mistakes.
I often wondered why we bought Viera. I saw why in this Fulham draw. I remember that Thierry Henry took 12 games to start scoring, so I’ll wait some more for karl Havertz. He’ll come clean. BUT WHY is GABRIEL MANGALAES NOT PLAYING?
Really I wish , I knew what those two smoked .would have prescribe a remedy.
Seriously it’s really bad buy, we wed have had kundus or better still continue with, our beloved shaker
Arteta is only person to blame. The team formation makes me go crazy
If you fault Ramsdale, how sure are you that Raya won’t do worse.
Yes, Ramsdale’s position was woeful, but the managers style of play asks the backline and keeper to be much higher than previous generations also saka needs to be better than that pass.
Havertz has to learn to attack again, obviously no-one was talking and telling him he had time to turn,
Zinchenko, don’t get me started. Completely to blame for more points lost than anyone I can ever remember for this club.
The reason I raised eyebrows when Arteta decided to do away with Tierney. Zinchenko is not good at defending he is only good offensively, with Tierney that second goal wouldn’t have happened. Rather than sending Tierney away he should have let him stay and learn how to strike a balance between both, at 2-1 and remaining about 15 minutes to go and Fulham down to Ten men, our players became slack in the defence again, I actually wouldn’t know why Arteta would prefer to keep Gabriel Maghallaes on the bench, why? Too much of tinkering and also playing players out of position will not augur for Arsenal. A stich in time saves nine, before the lamentations start again.
Arteta won’t swallow his pride and integrate Tierney back in. It’s totally absurd we are loaning him out. Someone needs to Pep to ring Arteta and let him know he still has a lot to learn. His arrogance is really starting to show this season and he’s making silly mistakes in the transfer market and within the squad.
You are so on point.. We had the best left back in the epl slip away to allow arteta to play his blue eyed boys.
Haverts has no part in this young guns team & arteta persistent playing this lazy spy is going to cost us dearly.
We had a winning formula last season just need a few addition to strength the team not take out our good players & add other teams fringe players & still pay 65bar for a person that has no drive.
Frustrating arteta will be the cause of our fall if he doesn’t get his head check out
I really don’t understand arteta style of playing party at right back he must change that system really it’s not eirking at all he must start 4-4-2 formation
Ramsdale is always awful..even look at the 2nd goal…did Harvatz bribe Edu and Arteta?
Yeah, terrible Ramsdale, staying on his line, not marking the fella that scored 🙄
The style of play arteta is using it the one which is costing the team unless he changes arsenal will continue to struggle.
Omo can you people even keep self…. Arteta style of play this season is due to the injury on zinchenko am sure as his back we would turn back to the old formation next season… And that equalizer I blame zinchenko for it because he was too lazy to give that pass earlier… I don’t know why you guys are stressing on about havertz performance for me his not used to our style of play yet and his doing very well … This season we have actually struggled to win because of the new style of play… So if there is any blame it’s the couching staff and the management team stop blaming our boys it’s not easy to play football…
Havertz has done nothing – he is completely ineffective and is being carried by the others.
I never understood why we bothered signing him – and now he is just a passenger on £300k a week. Arteta is a fool for signing him. He worked so hard getting rid of the deadwood and now has brought more deadwood in.
Indeed. Would rather get joao Felix than Havertz. Arteta will soon regret buying Havertz. Don’t see any good in Havertz style of playing. Worse still wonder what arteta see in this guy? Surely will ve worse Flop signing of the year.
You cannot possibly blame the golden boy Saka for anything could you?
OK his positioning was bad but had Saka seen that correctly he should never have made that pass.
I just think they badly underestimated Fulham yesterday – there was a complacency about them, as if they could just stroll a win and Fulham punished them for it.
This HAS to be a season where we win something and there are improvements – I just don’t see the signings he has made thus far and his tactics bringing those improvements in performance.
If not, Arteta’s position will need to be questioned – he has spent HUGE amounts of money since he has come in.
Yeah, Saka obviously made the critical mistake – he just assumed the RB would be at RB and played the pass blindly. You could argue arteta’s new system led to the mistake in part, or maybe partey moved into midfield too quickly, or maybe white was too slow to move right (I think partey and white have to be responsive to eachother in that transition) but undoubtedly the responsibility for that pass is Saka’s.
However we could have gotten lucky because the Fulham player gave ramsdale a chance. He also could/should have prevented the opening goal.
Surely you are quite right, and there’s some arrogance.
I blame Arteta for the unacceptable result against Fulam. Reason :
1. Why Partey at the right back
2. Why Gabriel on the bench
3. Why use Trossad as false nine and kept Nketia on the bench
4. Should have dropped Martinelli, shifted Trossard to the left wing and Nketiah takes Trossard position
5. Ramsdale must to be relegated to the bench. He must be blamed for Fulam’s first goal
I wouldn’t start in goal with ramsdale. Raya should start and so with Gabriel. Partey should be playing instead of havert. Ramsdale often go far out. That’s not a Goalie should be doing.other team will surely be noting this weakness of ramsdale. Next match with MU Raya should be in the starting 11. Together with Gabriel in defence. And partey back to midfield. If arsenal wanted a better result against MU that is.
My prefer starting lineup for next match with MU would be — Formation 4,1,4,1..Raya in goal. Tierney LB,, Saliba CB(L) with Gabriel CB(R),, White RB,, Rice DM ,, Partley or ( Trossard/ Veira ) LCM,, odegard or ( Jorginio )RCM,, martilleni LW,, Saka RW and Jesus or (Neketia/ Trossard )ST….stay with those players in form. And not changing tactics and players.
Tierney is gone mate
You don’t know Tierney has been loaned out? Wake up Fam.
What absolute drivel. Raya would be asked to play as a sweeper keeper if Ramsdale was dropped and will susceptible to the same unforced errors.
There is no one to blame for our form except MA and after reading his comments on BBC sport of being 10 times better than last season has made me more disappointed than I was on the journey home yesterday.
With respect NB I don’t think you can assume that Raya will be as Positionally naive as Ramsdale who has cost us goals on a regular basis..I suspect the latest gaffe from our keeper may be the last straw as far as Arteta is concerned and I suspect Raya will start against Man Utd.
Grandad, I assume nothing… I accept that Ramsdale committed some errors but you make it sound like he does it on a consistent basis in which I have to disagree with. If anything I would say Ramsdale saved us many points since he has been integrated into the team.
What I will say is if we accept that Artetaball requires a sweeper keeper I see nothing but the same mistakes even with a different keeper as Raya is not infallible, especially if we continue to play blind passes to players who are foreign to the position and the team is committed high in possession.
These were issues that should have been ironed out from last season and it is apparent that we still have not learned.
I doubt he will make that change just yet Grandad. It would look like he has lost confidence in Ramsdale and whatever any of US may think, I doubt MA has lost confidence and I think he will wait a while, though RAYA has plainly been brought to play, but IMO just not YET!
Both keepers will play, by MAs order and by personal desire, in both cases, as sweeper keepers and our first goal conceded was SAKAS FAULT FAR MORE THAN RAMSDALES.
I suggest SAKA needs a rest, even already, far more than does RAMSDALE. Saka was IMO our second worst player, after only the hopefully only temporary passenger that is HAVERTZ, so far this season.
Wrong. Everyone just now puts a target on Ramsdale’s back because Raya is on the bench and some ppl think he’s better when Raya also has his weaknesses. The fault is obvious. It’s Saka AND Partey’s AND Arteta’s. Saka with a poor pass, Partey moves into midfield far too quickly and leaves a giant space behind, and Arteta for confusing all the players with his silly experiments. But yea, let’s blame Ramsdale for being wrong footed for a cheap giveaway and being hung to dry by poor play.
My own personal view, arteta confused. I wonder why using our players in deferent position in deferent matches. For instant.,we have almost three good strikers when one had injured, you try the other one inkethia and balogun. More so, use our normal midfielder in the midfield not by gambling the game. Partey, odegan and rice. Please always use Partey in his position and use the defenders in thier respective positions not using left in right and right in left. With all these we have a lot to do, remember champion league is at hands to play. Any moment. Please try and make your squad in appropriate to enable us have joy. Gunners for life.
I can understand disappointment in a poor performance or a loss. I can understand that on the face of it that Arteta has been trying something that hasn’t yet brought the same dividends unlike the start to last season. I can understand that Havertz hasn’t hit the ground running.
What I can’t understand is the reams and reams of posts on about Arteta and his ego and how he is just a poor man’s Pep and so on. We are heading back to the rhetoric from a couple of seasons ago after just 3 games. Funnily enough, until the last few games of last season there was hardly a murmur.
I didn’t see the game but caught very brief highlights on MOTD this morning. I saw that Saka seriously misplaced a pass which resulted in Fulham scoring and now this is Arteta’s fault for changing the system according to some.
I hate it when we give up a lead or don’t finish off our opponents as much as anyone but I can see it won’t be long at this rate before the Arteta out calls are made
Saka was indeed culpable as was Ramsdale whose starting position was ludicrous .In addition his co-ordination problem which I highlighted last year was there for all to see.This is the third occasion I have seen him stumble in the lead up to conceding goals.MA clearly has doubts about him before he has bought Raya.
I am not very surprised. Many of the same people have been waiting for an opportunity to slag off Arteta.
Added to this, we have a section of the fanbase that is prone to ridiculous histrionics after any slight setback.
Sadly DAVID, that “section” you rightly ridicule as hysterical reactionaries are seemingly in thr majority. We older fans are used to all social media- this site being no exception- attracting non thinking reactionaries galore.
It is just the way that ALL social medai operates and attracts the lowest common denominator in SO MANY CASES.
For what its worth, I have long thought that this site is deeply UNREPRESENTATIVE of ALL global Arsenal fans.
Simply put, very many on JA are spoilt and self entitled, to a ludicrous and completely ridiculous degree. Few are able to think deeply and many dont even want to try doing so. Sigh!
I have also noticed with constant frustration how so many regulars NEVER, as in NEVER EVER, offer to write an article of their own; many because they can ONLY criticise the posts of others and a number also NEVER praise the articles that DO hit the spot.
And a great many others have NO ability to marshal their own “thoughts” at all and ceratinly have little to no ability to write an ORIGINAL piece of their own.
Its largely through lack of education, sadly , esp amoing CERTAIN younger and middle aged users. And I speak mostly of English as first language users. I accept of coure thast if English is not ones mothertongfue then writing has natural obstacles, which are to be expected.
But no excuse, save poor education, for English as first language speakers.
Sue the whole game is STILL available to see on Arsenal .com. It is where I saw it last night, having JUST returned from holiday.
Havertz has been given his chance,let him take the bench role and play ESR or viera instead who’s looking better than last year.
Play a back 4 same as last season and let Partey/Rice play, the sad tale will be no room for ESR/Viera/Havertz(hasn’t done anything good yet) in the team.
Trossard isn’t a false 9, like Vini such players prefer playing attacking the defenders, play Nketiah till Jesus picks.
You can’t force a new system in then u do it gradually, moving things around is starting to get certain players confused, Saka might have been at fault but that wouldn’t have been the case if we had a traditional Saliba/Gabriel or Kiwior in front of the GK. I don’t fault Ramsdale, that goal was conceded the second Saka made that error.
Arteta is overthinking it, same approach from last season would have gotten us 3 points..
Havertz does not prove he worth that 60m ,bad buy .. arteta is very rigid to play him as he played like a kid.
Arteta is clearly the problem of this team, secondly saka need competition, should have bought sameul chukwueze, from vilareal, he is smart, good dribbler and aims the post all time, but he left AC Milan to buy him for 22mil, that’s better than kai
Why allow the anxieties of last season to commence early in the season? Please don’t break our hearts! Arsenal players must try and stamp their authority from start to finish!!
The opening Fulham goal was down to a sloppy pass by Saka. As for Ramsdale, he was where a goalkeeper playing as a sweeper keeper should be.
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For sure! I so much blame but not only him alone as far as goalkeeping is concerned in Arsenal even Leno was doing the same maybe that’s how goalkeepers are trained at Arsenal
Obviously Arteta was faulty prior to our last Match against Fulham, In the first place you as a coach all the powers belongs to you to arrange your Team to your own best of knowledge that will give you positive results.
Human being used to do Mistakes and to be corrected Concerning the Saka’s and Ramsdel Error that’s just it.
Let start from defence line why Gabriel was Benched? What is the duty of the Thomas at the right back? The best position That Thomas can give 100% is from DM but while at the right back provided white is available and start Gabriel at Central defence.
Had been he started partey from DM he would have provided more flavour to the midfield and created more chances and also protect the defence line at the same time.
On Hervert he shouldn’t have started Herver because he is not yet ready to be in starting first Eleven he suppose to start from the bench after we have won the match already for his build up.
Meanwhile matinelli should work on scoring ability because he would have finished the Opponent from first half UP GUNNER’S.
Of course,Ramsdel does this always and it pisses me off each time but Aterta himself is playing an uncommon and strange formation,I don’t know if he is trying to accommodate the unuseful Kai. This is not the fascinating arsenal of last season.
I will be short .
Arteta is no coach . He has no ability as a coach. He doesn’t use tactics or have strategy. He takes chances on players and the boys , mostly very young players want to do their best for him but no , Arteta and Edu know best . We will not finish in the top 3 this season lm sorry to say and as for Champions League forget it . This rubbish that Arteta is trying to do just won’t work . I give it two more seasons and he’ll be replaced .
Really?😂
Let’s accept the result and prepare for the next encounter guys. No blame game.
False 9 my foot… Where do you expect to get those goals. If MA can’t get us a proper no 9, let us keep Balogun. We can’t depend on wingers for goals. We need that 30 goal plus prolific central man surrounded by all these good fellows. Jesus is just not that man. Nketiah is average. MA, please listen for once …