Man United v Arsenal Review – Gunners killed off at the death

So Wenger’s reserves came up against the mighty forces of Jose Mourinho’s Man united, who were looking to gain some more points in their race to ensure second place in the League, and they didn’t expect to have many problems against Arsenal’s much changed team.

But the game started quite evenly and in the first quarter hour it wass was end to end but neither side really getting to test the keepers, until Pogba decided to take a run down the middle. Granit Xhaka did a comedy slide which was easily dodged by the United midielder and sent it to the wing. The resulting ball into the box landed on Sanchez’s head and he was only stopped as a defender deflected it onto the post. But the bounce ended up perfectly for Pogba to finish his own move off, with Ospina left with no chance at all.

At least Alexis didn’t get the satisfaction of scoring against us, but Mhkitaryan had a chance for revenge just four minutes later but sent it just wide of the post. Not much later than that Granit Xhaka got his customary yellow card for a blatant pull back for no reason at all and puts himself in danger of another sending off.

The rest of the half was quite open but other than a couple of weak headers from PEA and Nelson we didn’t test De Gea at all, but United were taking advantage of the wide spaces on the wings and were looking much more dangerous, and Ashley Young sent a slammer against Ospina’s post although I’m not sure he meant a shot! The possession was pretty even at the end of the first 45 but United had the lions share of attempts on goal.

The Gunners astarted the second period lively and after Lukaku was injured and replaced by Rashford it looked like United switched off for a minute and suddenly Mhki was left with just one defender to beat. He rolled it through his legs and into the corner and Arsenal were back in the game. 1-1.

United woke up then and the Gunners dropped back to defensive formation, but it was Mhki again who had the next big chance but blasted it far and wide. Arsenal don’t look so under the cosgh any more at all and it is back to 50/50 play.

With half an hour the game still seems pretty even but with Kolasinac going down injured Wenger is forced to put on Monreal, and he adds Danny welbeck in place of Nelson as well as we look for the winner.

It was Welbeck that had the next chance as he robbed a United defender and tried a long shot, but it still didn’t test De Gea. We went into the last 15 minutes with neither side rweally creating much but United seem o have resorted to throwing balls in from the wing to try and find Fellaini, but nothing dangerous has come so far. As a last roll of the dice Wenger takes off Mhki and adds Joe Willock in a very hopeful move.

The game continues without anything exciting happening so let’s recap on the performances. Xhaka has improved a lot in the second half, and Chambers and Mavropolous have been looking solid. The Greek lad doesn’t look at all overawed by his debut.

But Arsenal seem happy with the draw with United looking just a bit more lively but still no penetration. Mourinho won’t be happy with a point but with Liverpool drawing yesterday they seem assured of second place anyway but the United players are still going for it. One of their crosses from the wing finally hits Fellaini but his header comes off the post and Rashford gets the rebound from an offside position. Both sides only have 4 added minutes to break the deadlock and Unitd carry on pressing. Suddenly Fellaini gets another header in the box and this time he manages it to steer it past Ospina and Arsenal are undone by a sucker punch in extra time..

Arsenal reserves were unlucky and did themselves proud, but Wenger gets another defeat at Old Trafford and we now have lost all six away games this year. Another broken record for the outgoing boss…



  1. gotanidea says:

    Even though they lost, it was a decent performance, considering most Arsenal players were thinking about their fitness for the Atletico match

    Glad to see Nelson, Mavropanos and Mkhitaryan back in action. Maitland-Niles looked stiff in the middle of the field, he should play in the wings again next time

    1. John0711 says:

      ???what game did u watch he was MOM and Henry and rednap both praised him

      1. #MAGA says:

        Yes Niles head and shoulders above everyone else and also very impressed with Mavronapos.

    2. jon fox says:

      For Gods sake A M-N was rightfully MotM. You have just embarrassed yourself bigtime. SpecSavers for you old son!

  2. Sigh, beaten home and away. What a humiliation. Good thing the cancer is leaving.

    1. Sue says:

      We’ll have them next season Quantic!

      1. #MAGA says:

        Stop using the C word Quantic Dickhead, my partner has it and comparing Wenger to Cancer is bang out of order, you idiot.

        1. Admin says:

          I agree mate

          1. Of course you do Admin! Personal abuse rocks!

          2. Kenny Rolfe says:

            I agree as well

        2. Sue says:

          Sorry to hear that MAGA

          1. #MAGA says:

            Thanks Sue, one successful op done but waiting for another not so urgent one.

          2. Sue says:

            Fingers crossed all will be fine….. are you GB by any chance??

          3. Ozziegunner says:

            #MAGA, having surviveď renal cancer I wish your partner all the very best.

          4. Jonm says:

            Maga, I hope it all goes well with your partner and also that quantic dream does not find out about cancer the hard way.

    2. Nay Sayer says:

      You’ll be bitching for years if you think Arsenal will win the Prem in the next 5 years.

      If we keep Mavropanos and Maitland Niles and get rid of less talented youngsters and elders (Holding, Chambers, Iwobi, Welbeck, Xhaka, Mustafi, Bellerin), I could be wrong. Will take 3 years at least, though, to even have a chance.

      1. Sue says:

        I meant beating United…. it won’t take that long to beat them pfft

        1. #MAGA says:

          Agree Sue and Chambers played well Nay.

  3. Sue says:

    I thought we did quite well considering… if we’d had our first team out we probably would have won.
    What I loved the most is MKHI scored & Alexis (who) didn’t ?

    1. Anko says:

      Yes, am a very happy person even though we lost. When players play with lots of efforts, I don’t have any complain. The result could have gone either way. Thursday is going to be our day.

      1. RSH says:

        if it were our normal XI that went down 1-0 we’d see them all sulking and putting their heads down. Seriously, I think this XI got a better result than an Ozil/Ramsey/Mustafi/Wilshere/Laca side would’ve.

        1. Ozziegunner says:

          I agree; all any reasonable supporter wants to see is the players putting in for the club. There is no disgrace in doing your very best and being beaten by a better team on the day.

  4. RSH says:

    not much to complain about honestly. The young guys held out pretty well and did as good as you could expect them to. Not their fault about bottling it late. Just in Arsenal DNA. Onto the next one. AMN my MOTM.

  5. Eddie Hoyte says:

    I gotta admit i’m impressed with the kids… Mavro won me over, him and Chambers look like a good future Center backs.
    Nelson was disappointing.
    Considering the team we played with i’m not disappointed a bit that we lost.
    Shame onr every fan on here who wrote the team off and said all sorts of rubbish saying another 8-2 is coming.
    Sanchez? Lol..
    please like i said i dont want Welbeck on thursday.
    I want to see more of Mavro!!

    1. Nay Sayer says:

      Nelson, Chambers, Holding, Iwobi, and Willock will never be top players.

      I was right about Mavropanos as well as AMN having potential, and I would love to see at least Chambers prove me wrong by playing well 4, 5 games in a row, but not counting on miracles.

      Strange thing about our fans:

      Fergie gave youngsters 1 or 1 and a half season to impress. If they didn’t, off they went.
      Our fans want a winning mentality and yet they would still keep on giving chances to youngsters who everyone can see will be Newcastle or West Ham material at best.

      1. Sue says:

        Ainsley is so cool…. hope we keep him

        1. Ozziegunner says:

          I wouldn’t write Chambers and Holding off yet; good defenders take more time to develop. Hopefully in future coaching of defenders will have more priority.

  6. Sam-afc says:

    Athletico Thursday night:

    Mavropanos? Mustafi ?

    1. RSH says:

      Voting Mustafi is like asking to start off the game 1-0

    2. Godswill says:

      Am not disappointed. Some the young boys did well.

    3. Nay Sayer says:

      Mavropanos and Roma’s Manolas could soon be our top notch Greek defence.

      Any RBs in Greece to replace the worse-and-worse Bellerin??

  7. John Legend says:

    I am proud of them

  8. pires says:

    The Chambers-mavaponos axis was awsome.Putting lukaku and alexis in their poket is a thing to be proud of…better than the idiotic Kostafi

    1. RSH says:

      that was one of our best CB performances in 2018. And we conceded 2 goals. It’s weird to say haha. Chambers has been slowly getting better I’ve noticed too. I’ve had friends tell me they would start him over Mustafi and honestly I think there’s more than a good shout to do that. Mustafi is simply a clown and I’m starting to rate Chambers a bit. Mavro also didn’t look like a debutant defender. Hope to see more of him.

      1. Ozziegunner says:

        RSH, I also have confindence that Holding, Chambers and Mavropanos (given their age) under the new coach/manager will have a good future.

  9. Ronny says:

    Oh b*locks done in by side show bob right at the death.
    Credit the side that played and how well they did!

    1. Sue says:

      Even heard the Arsenal fans boo Sanchez!!

      1. RSH says:

        am i the only one who just doesn’t care that he left us, and had no ill feelings seeing him in a United shirt? I just couldn’t care less. It’s nothing like RVP for some reason.

        1. Sue says:

          All I meant was I thought every Arsenal fan still liked him for ‘all what he did for us’ so was quite surprised he was booed

          1. RSH says:

            maybe some do, but I feel like we always boo former players that go to other rivals. Cesc also got booed which I kind of feel was undeserved. They’ve mostly stopped now cause it’s pretty obvious he still cares about the club.

          2. Sue says:

            To me it’s the manner in which they leave…

  10. Arsene is Out says:

    “0” points away in 2018. But that is not the story here. Wenger is leaving us with a bad bunch of players. We have good quality up front but all at 28-29. We have no quality in defense and maybe just Ramsey in the middle. No wingers, no goalies, no training, no tactics, no motivation.
    Years of neglect by the board, trusting Arsene to do the right thing and him being just plain incapable of anything got us here. This is a team in total decline, it will need time and money and a really good manager to right this team. It falls on Kroenke and Ivan to make the right choices and provide the funds for this rebuild. From past experiences with these two I am not very hopeful but i do hope I’m wrong

    1. Sue says:

      We’re gonna end up with Arteta if Ivan has his way

      1. Arsene is Out says:

        Arteta would be a disaster. Let him go coach a mediocre La LIga team for a few years first to see what he is made of. Would Barca, Real, City, United, Liverpool, Bayern, Chelsea consider Arteta as Manager? So why are we?
        We need proven quality in management and transfers.

        1. Sue says:

          Exactly why I don’t want him!!

          1. Naija Jollof says:

            He is learning from Pep Guardiola. Might be the next big coach who knows. If you were in charge at Real Madrid I’m sure you wouldn’t have given Zidane the chance because he didn’t “coach a mediocre Laliga club first to see what he’s made off” but look? Nothing wrong with Arteta.

    2. Sony says:

      I disagree with you. Except for CB,GK and DM we have decent team. Forgot about LW also ( I do not count Iwobi/Danny sorry)
      Yes upfront we have around 27-29 but that is their prime age so very good for new manager. They know what to do lol. He can build on that.
      If we rebuild our defence I strongly believe that we can challenge.

      1. RSH says:

        I think our midfielders are poor too honestly. Ramsey is really our only decent one and he’s injury prone. I’d add another CM to the list of positions we need to improve.

      2. Arsene is Out says:

        CB, GK, DM and LW and a second option at RB. And Mhki is not a RW but lets say he and Nelson can manage next season. Still need to sign Ramsey to a new contract. Jack is he staying? Probably not. Xhaka is a mess and Elneny is just a squad player. AMN might or might not come good in the center of the field. For me besides Ramsey, who if he doesnt sign a new contract will/should probably be sold – we dont have any first team midfielders.
        So too many question marks and too many places to fill with top players. Unless Stan is willing to sanction 200M in spending and a big contract for Ramsey, I dont see us challenging next year.

  11. Sony says:

    I think we played well considering playing with B team.
    I know Nelson is young and nervous, but he killed every attacking attempt, lost ball or flipped or tripped on every touch sometimes even without somebody doing anything. You could see his legs shaking.
    Ospina like usually so uncomfortable with any cross.
    Iwobi good dribbling with no end product.
    Xhaka is comical captain. He tried. I think he did his best. However not good enough. He just need somebody to take of that def responsibility. So he can focus mainly on passing…..
    Our Hulk is injured again….
    I am impressed with the Greek guy not bad.
    Chambers was also not that bad.
    Bellerin was in beast mode today. Happy with him in defence. As long he doesn’t cross to the other half he is very good.
    Auba no service nothing he can do.
    Danny worked hard, but no vision for passing.
    Mikhy probably our best player today with great goal. Without him our midfield was non existent.

  12. John0711 says:

    Chambers and Mavro looked quality

    Xhaka oh my lord please sell him
    We need a LB a CB a DM and. GK to compete
    I’m guessing Leno will be the GK choice as he’s got a 17.5 m release Claus

  13. Chuauhnuna says:

    Tactical change in the second half was the beginning of the downfall. Ars are never good in defending for years.. In staed of giving pressure to the opposite team, they let thw opposite team to do so..

  14. inkfight! says:

    Disappointed but not surprised by the late goal.

    Positives: Chambers, Maitland-Niles and Mavropanos.

  15. arsenal fc says:

    That Greek defender instead of mustafi for the Athletico game

  16. arsenal fc says:


    1. #MAGA says:

      Yes, with Chambers, excellent pairing.

  17. Shinoda says:

    I’m a bit proud of the performance, but I don’t like to give excuses in defeat. United once beat us with their youngsters. Iwobi needs to follow Wenger out & Xhaka… The lesser about him the better. All in all, this season has been frustration after frustration & this was just another typical Arsenal performance. Our awful away form continues & United doing a double on us just like City sums it all up well. May God be with us on Thursday.

  18. jon fox says:

    I was extremely and pleasantly surprised by the football and commitment we showed. A M-N’s best game by far in our shirt and correctly MotM. Mavropanos and Chambers looked very solid and both are better than the error strewn and kaput Koscielny and the stumbling clown , Mustafi. Apart from the hopeless Bellerin who must be sold and the dreadfully inept Xhaka(who improved a bit though after half time) most of our players were good, even Iwobi, for an hour. There is clearly something for the new man to work with and the big change must be to toughen up the attitude all round. Once pampering and excuse ridden Wenger is gone, it will be difficult NOT to improve our toughness and attitude. It is noteworthy how many of the youngsters call Wenger a Father figure. Many of us think he should instead be a driven employer and boss, instead of a cosy Dad to them.

    1. RSH says:

      I’m begging this new manager is ruthless and kicks so many of these players out. The board better be ready for a busy summer of spending or it’ll be more misery ahead though.

    2. Anko says:

      I don’t I thought Bellerin played well today. He stayed back to help the defence and I think a lot of ball came to his side because Man U thought he will go forward a lot

      1. #MAGA says:

        He was badly at fault for the first goal though.

  19. ks-gunner says:

    It was like a friendly match. The new manager wont give the youngsters the benefit to under perform. Neils and Konstantin where good, the others not so much, not arsenal future quality. By the way. Iwobi and Chambers days are soon over that i am sure.

  20. DANDY GUNNER says:

    Arsenal have lost to Man Utd once again. We the Fans are no upset at the result because we have come to terms with Man Utd beating Arsenal. So we look for the positives but I personally did not see any positives we just can’t defend. The Papers say ARSENAL have been put off by Luis Enrique’s £200million transfer war chest demands. If this is correct where is the Ambition, as far as I can see the Board are worried about the yearly Dividend. There has to be a big changes at board level.

    1. Admin says:

      There are no dividends mate

      1. #MAGA says:

        I know, everyone thinks the board take money out of the club but only Stan takes his 2 mil. Peanuts really.

        1. Admin says:

          He even stopped that after the protest the first year….

    2. jon fox says:

      Several positives I thought. AM-N having easily his best game in our shirt and in his right position is clearly a player who will improve rapidly with a proper coach. Mavropolos on his debut was surprisingly calm and marked well. Chambers too played really well. Mhki is now fit and ready for Thursday and also played well. We took a supposed weakened team to United and almost drew. And deserved to as well. All these are positives. Surely? Biggest positive is WENGER WILL SOON BE GONE AND THE NEW MAN WILL HAVE SOME UNDERRATED TALENT TO WORK WITH.

  21. reddb10 says:

    Mavropanos was excellent today.only 20 years old, debut game at old trafford marking lukaku,

  22. Gunner_2 says:

    How on earth was AMN named man on the match??????? I have seen loads of midfield players better than him at his age. Lost count of how many times he left xhaka alone after bombing to nowhere!!!!!

    1. #MAGA says:

      You obviously wasn’t watching then.

      1. John0711 says:

        Spot on he must have watched a different game, or spent too much time staring at Xhaka but

  23. Okiror says:


    1. inkfight! says:

      Still have high hopes for Iwobi. I think he has all the attributes but is lacking the final ball and most importantly, confidence.

      The negativity around our club can’t be great for a young players development either.

      Hopefully the new manager will be able to fix a few of our tactical weaknesses and also provide some fight and positivity.

    2. jon fox says:


    3. Phil says:

      Yes you are

    4. Lupe says:

      Lol. You are joking right?

  24. Anko says:

    I will not condemn any player today. Until after Thursday when we see the result. Before then I have enjoyed the game today and I hope we win on Thursday.

  25. Gunner_2 says:

    Fabregas at 18 Yrs was like times 100 of AMN.

    1. #MAGA says:

      Fab first played at 16 and put Vieira on his arse, absolutely one of the best midfielders we have ever had but that doesn’t mean AMN wasn’t the best player today. Different times, different standard!

      1. jon fox says:

        ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, AND THOUGH CESC HAS HAD A GREAT CAREER, I THINK HE HAS NOT QUITE LIVED UP TO THE WONDERFUL EXPECTATIONS MOST OF US HAD WHEN HE FIRST PLAYED AT 16. He would not make my personal all time Arsenal team not even as a reserve. I would not have thought THAT around 2004-7.

  26. Ronny says:

    I know what you meant but never would I refer to Wenger as cancer maybe that’s just me having experience of it and I can tell you wenger isn’t it!

    1. #MAGA says:

      Yes Ronny, he is an uneducated fool using that expression.
      I wouldn’t wish it on him but until he experiences it in hisself or his family he might just understand. BTW well done for beating it. My lady is currently waiting for another operation.

      1. Durand says:

        Sorry to hear my friend, father had stage 4 stomach cancer 8 yrs ago. Good doctor and medical services made all the difference.

        He’s 78 now, a bit slower and wears out easily, but still kicking.

        All my prayers and the best to your partner or lady.

        1. #MAGA says:

          Hey many thanks yes she had stage 4 bowel and had excellent result from op but now waiting another op, not so urgent but all,part of it. Well done your dad. Peace and love to you.

  27. AndersS says:

    There was a time, we were competing with Man U, and we were gutted when losing.
    I guess that really changed in 2011 when Wenger put out a totally inadequate team, and we lost 8-2. If only someone had stopped him then.
    We have fallen to a state, where many fans seem happy with today’s performance.
    I think it was a disgrace. There is absolutely no pride in playing a reserve team, almost certain to lose, and then using it as an excuse afterwards.
    Arsenal should stand for more than that.
    Can’t wait till Wenger is out, so we can et some pride and winning mentality back.

    1. Midkemma says:

      I’m disappointed in Xhaka.
      Rest of the team I thought done well, if we hadn’t had to rely on Xhaka who let us down on both goals then we could have come away from that game with something more than the silver lining of the kids doing alright.

      You claim there is no pride in playing a reserve team but it wasn’t them who let us down, it was Xhaka wasn’t it? A 1st team player.

      Maybe we should have played more reserve team players 😉

  28. S says:

    Fail to win 2 of our last 3 premier league games and we’ll have the worst points total in a 38 game season since the prem switched to 38 game seasons in 1995. Yep, worse than Rioch.

    1. Sue says:

      Oh Jesus worse than ole Brucey??? That really is bad!

      1. jon fox says:

        We finished fifth under him. Better than this season, you may have noticed(or maybe you have not).

        1. Sue says:

          Yes fifth in his only season… with no trophies… Yes I remember

  29. Midkemma says:

    Our CB future looks kinda bright, it is a shame that the 2 experienced ones are not good enough till the ‘kids’ come of age.

    The CB partnership really impressed me, if Xhaka was a better CM then both of UTD goals could have been cancelled out, it was Xhaka who failed to beat Fellaini to the header as well as doing that comedy slide then failing to track back afterwards.

    Chambers, Mavrop and Holding. 3 potential CBs if they are not broken in the next few years…

    AMN… wow. I said he could be our next Vieira and he shown that today against a top team, he defended well and he attacked with purpose. Smart off the ball and calm on it.

    Nelson I thought started to fall into the Wenger issue, at times he seemed to be thinking too hard on his final ball and it cost him, I really wanted him to play with freedom and confidence but that didn’t happen this time. Glad he got game time though and hope it helps him, he didn’t have a stinker but could have done a bit more in the final third.

    Iwobi was Iwobi, I was never a fan of his and never thought he was a top 4 team player, I hope we can sell him for decent money and let the next manager give Nelson his game time.

    1. Sue says:

      Decent money for Iwobi???

      1. jon fox says:

        YES, BECAUSE OF HS YOUNG AGE IN THIS MAD MARKET WE HAVE NOW. Even poor players are worth what someone is prepared to pay. Whatever we think of him, he has played many games in our first team and is a young Arsenal player with PREM experience and so, however bizarre we may think it, he will attract good offers. Personally, I think two pounds 50 pence is worth taking but we WILL get good money.

    2. Gunner_2 says:

      How do you really expect xhaka to beat felliani to a header. Boy the Belgian Is an electric pole, add that to his jump power and heading ability you see a guy of xhaka’s height has no chance contesting with felliani.

  30. King henry says:

    Whoever they get in we need it to be someone with experience and a winning mentality.. also are we hiring a head coach or a manager either way i just prey it will be someone who will stand up to the board and not be a puppet for the board like sad old Wenger!! It will be interesting to see wot happens in regards of the current coaches I.e bould, Lehman etc.. but the bottom line will be we need to spend!! Ppl are saying a 200m rebuild.. I for one believe it’s time this board showed their financial muscle that we all know we have got.. PROVE IT!! 200m would buy us
    Oblak 87mil
    Manolas 35-40mil
    Nzonzi 35mil
    Possibly Lemar 70mil if we are lucky

    We want big players we need to get the deal done early before world cup starts ideally.. if that means paying some big money release clauses pay them.. show us fans that u aren’t a bunch tight sods and are prepared to pay up!! One thing I have always said about Wenger and our board is that they penny pinch.. we stagnated as a club.. Wenger hasnt evolved with the times and had to much power within the club.. now he is gone hopefully the board will evolve with a new manager who knows how to play with pace and power!!

    I’m still hoping for usamov to buy out kronke and overhall the board in the summer.. but I can only dream


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