Manchester United claimed an impressive 3-2 victory against Arsenal this evening, extending the Gunners’ winless run in the Premier League. The result came at a damaging time for Arsenal, who entered the match on the back of consecutive league draws and were determined to return to winning ways.
Arsenal began the game with intensity and control, fully aware of the threat posed by Manchester United but confident in their own quality at the top of the standings. Their early dominance eventually told, as sustained pressure led to the opening goal, which arrived through a Lisandro Martínez own goal. It appeared to reward Arsenal’s positive start and set the tone for a strong home performance.
Momentum swings at the Emirates
That advantage was short-lived. Manchester United responded almost immediately after a costly error from Martin Zubimendi presented them with an opportunity, which Bryan Mbeumo converted. The quick equaliser shifted momentum and ensured the contest remained finely balanced heading into half-time at 1-1. It also underlined that this United side arrived with belief and intent.
After the interval, Arsenal were aware that they needed to raise their level to secure all three points. Instead, it was United who struck next, taking the lead through a well-taken effort from Patrick Dorgu. Arsenal struggled to match the energy and intensity of their opponents, a contrast that was noticeable as United benefited from not playing in midweek.
Late drama but no rescue
In the context of a title race, dropping points at home carries significant consequences, and Arsenal pushed hard for a response. Their persistence was rewarded late on when Mikel Merino found the equaliser, reigniting hopes of a comeback and lifting the atmosphere inside the stadium.
As Arsenal committed bodies forward in search of a winner, they left themselves exposed. Manchester United took advantage, catching them out on the break and scoring their third goal through Matheus Cunha. Despite late pressure, Arsenal were unable to find another equaliser and ultimately suffered a damaging 3 2 defeat.
The loss represents a setback in their league campaign and reinforces the fine margins involved at this stage of the season, where costly moments can quickly undo sustained periods of control.
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Man Utd played a high press throughout we were not wary enough about. In fact we were a bit naive about their high press. At least the first we conceded came from that, i argue Cunha allowed too much space at 2.2. Zoob didn’t have many options or time as ball came to him. I would suggest if opponents do that high press looking for high contact on you, you can’t continue playing out as usual as the situation is different, team mates need a few more bodies deeper around them, or you have to go more direct.
Certainly a game a losing manager and team can sit down together and learn a lot from.
The first came from unwarranted back pass. Zubi wasn’t under any pressure make such stupid and unnecessary pass.
The coach is enjoying too much undeserving loyalty and support from the fans and the club. It’s been five and a half years of backing by the club and more than thirty new players with over one billion spent. Arteta needs to show he deserves all that.
Reminder what caused Arsenal to lose control of this match was us scoring a goal. I think that says more than enough right there.
With some degree of credit though given to the quality and composure Man Utd showed throughout.
They always get themselves up for this fixture, but were set out very well today, such as the 4 4 2 where 2 players on either flank double teamed our wide players very well, and their high contact point disrupting our playing out from back.
Arteta out yet? Every game under pressure, absolutely clueless. 6 years.
Only three points dropped, nothing else lost today, and we knew we wouldn’t get every point between now and end of season, didn’t we? It means, now this is out of our system like a mug of cold water chucked in our face, just have to get straight back on winning Prem games again.
Moon Girl, I have heard that too many time since 2022/2023 seasons.
@Moon Girl
RealTalk 👍🏾
Three very crucial points Moon Girl.
I really love Arteta, but I think he’s a little clueless in organising and resourcing an attacking. Even as we speak, the most important players we are ….. perennially chasing are top defenders!!
After 6 well supported years, chances are there’s nothing he’ll plan and work differently for the next 100 years!!
Now here’s the first of the bunch coming out of the woodwork.
How are you Konstantine, haven’t heard from you for quite a while, was it the pool defeat when you last contributed?
I guess we’ll get an article from you now, telling everyone what should be done, how to do it, who to get rid of and who to buy?
Looking forward to reading about Arteta being clueless, despite being top of the PL and CL – can hardly wait, COYG.
I wondered when you would show up again, the voice of doom.
Before we turn on ourselves, a classic case of new manager bounce, resetting morale and confidence. Man Utd played with confidence, belief and swagger throughout. They were pretty well layed out too as though grade A homework had been done on us.
This was a very different Man Utd than the one where we can suspect the players were playing to get a manager sacked who they personally couldn’t stand. Shaw in particular played well. And we know they have bought well in Mbemo, Doghu and Cunha, only now they are over some fitness and other absence concerns themselves.
We knew exactly what ManU was going to show up
At what stage do you stop with the excuses?
Did we PJ-SA?
Was that why nearly everyone predicted a home win?
For certain, I didn’t know that they would turn around a terrible season in just two games under a interim manager with the same squad of players.
In retrospect, everyone can be correct and as for excuses, I haven’t seen any, just folks telling everyone that MA got it wrong and / or admitting we were beaten by the better team on the day.
Come the end of the season is the stage where we stop and analysis the situation, not after our third defeat in 37 games I would suggest.
I rhink the fanboys MISS the obvious, we have LOST….LOST 7 points from our last 3 games. This is a repeat of the 22-23? season where we were 8 pts clear and lost pts to poor teams in the run home. I keep hearing excuses about the loost ptd…oh we know how dyche plays……preciselyYET we were again clueless in breaking his teams down…after 6 years??? against pool, we were gutless. Manure….same cluelessness, go 1 up, we switch off. What has happened to odegard and saka is now soooo slow ? Jesus over gyokeres ???
Sadly, wheels falling off earlier although expected just not so early AND there are some here thinking of the quadruple, doubt we will even get into carabao finals…remember 3-1 up, 8 mins to go, he puts on 2 yes 2 attackers!!!! Clueless. His favouritism far exceeds wengers AND thats saying a lot.
Ken, yet JA will always publish his BS articles.
I didn’t to be fair lol
Leeds game is massive now , that won’t be easy
But I think if Zubimendi wouldn’t have done that mistake then result could have been different
But that’s where bottle jobs comes in picture
No. The mistake was forced out of us by Utd’s high press high contact tactics, making what we normally do back there that much riskier and hurried. That’s wasn’t a near miss, it was a hit, but there were other near misses. We are used to, perhaps a bit lulled into, battling low block, so not as reactive as we should have been. Utd took players out a low block for higher press higher contact tactics. It meant Utd had out balls, especially pushing it up their left or the channel wide right – and the outballs gave them time to transition, either quick counter or keep ball. Almost the opposite tactics Spuds came with earlier in the season.
Puhleese, they didnt high press which is why it was so frustrating, Teams now know not to high press us as our side to side when they dont allows them to organise so they dont press like old pool
After this loss, we are going to change tactics and play to win rather than not to lose! Whenever we meet big names, we play not to lose rather than playing to win the game. This is the reason why we haven’t won against the big names like Liverpool, Man city and Chelsea this season. We need to discard this mentality forthwith. If we played with the same intensity that we applied against Inter Milan we would have won by a big margin. In the previous seasons we had discarded this mentality but unfortunately now it’s back! Arteta seems to be too cautious and is trying to avoid the mistakes of the past three seasons but this could be counterproductive. It appears the manager hasn’t yet appreciated the quality of the players we have. Why doesn’t he play people like Norgaard when the going gets tough? Eze is not performing at his best because of not getting enough game time! Why does Arteta always persist with Odegaard even when we know he is not at his best? This was a game made for Martinelli because of his pace but he never featured anywhere. In a nutshell, this was a self-inflicted defeat! It is not all doom and gloom though. This is the time to come out and show the quality of our team.
So a mistake means a bottle job does it. Perhaps you need to lookup the meaning?
GB,
I must be a massive bottle job, as I and many others I would assume have made a fair amount of mistakes in life.
I just made another one, by reading Kedar Damle’s post. 😂🤣👍
Bottle Job means bottling out or crapping ourselves. We’re not there yet.
Look up Bottle & Glass in rhyming slang.
And steer clear of the Holborn Viaduct.
Jax,
What’s Grass got to do with it. 🤣👍
Derek, Grass?
If you meant “glass”, just Google “Bottle it” for a complete explanation. Most people who use the phrase do so without a clue of the origins or what it really means.
Jax,
I didn’t want to give the correct answer regards rhyming slang. But I do know it.😉👍
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3 wins without win. MA needs the hairdresser treatment.
Its funny City went on and bought 2 fantastic PL proven players. Last January we needed a forward and nothing was done.
This is actually the time to think forward and try to get creativity into the team. I know Arsenal is going for that in the summer, but if we had Champion mentality, we would be after reinforcements this month.
I mean Jesus will be out in the summer and I would send Ödegaard packing as well. Hes been a passenger for the past 18 months.
3 matches without win*
Keep waiting for………… trust the process
DaJuhi, we need a new idea at dugout. It as simple as that. He has been given over 30 players. All the players he met bar Saka and GM had gone.
When you analyse individual performances it’s no surprise we’re seeing a result like today. Gyokares is a waste of good money. Saka has been missing for at least 2 months. Zubimendi has made the same mistakes before. Our defence is not as tight as it used to be. Eze bring very little to the table. Odegaard is trying too hard but struggling. Rice never gives up but needs a rest by the look of it. MA is still not able to get the best out of, what on paper should be ample to win the title. All in all, very frustrating but not entirety surprising.
Apart from his wildcat cross that led to our opener, Hinky just couldn’t get to his best today – defensively things up in air, not cleared.
This is a team that badly needs its Ricky back.
GunnerRay, I believe not starting Gyokeres was a mistake, because of the early pressure he puts on defences. Look at the statistics. He ties up 2 CB’s and sometimes other defenders as well, which stops the back 3 or 4 from getting the ball forward.
Tne “best defence in Europe” shipped 3 goals!
Another prem game to forget, let’s hope for better luck onwards. COYG!!!
Been quiet watching and giving Arteta a chance but alas, he has shown yet again what some objective fans have been saying for a long time
2 points out of the last 9 with a captain that has no business being in that position….champions? Having a laugh
Where’s the “1 point gained, not 2 points dropped” gang now? Some of us knew we needed those points, other chose to stick their head in the sand
Can’t handle real pressure and we play horrible football for the most part. Where’s this strong mentality some fans can’t stop yapping about?
PJ-SA
Why are you soo negative man? We have been beaten by a big team, and it’s not the first time to do so. Even Arsenal under Wenger used to be beaten alot by United. No surprises there
As for the last 3 matches, yes we have dropped 7 points. But who told you that we are guaranteed to win matches at ease? How many times have we beaten Nottingham Forest away and Liverpool at home? Don’t you remember even Aston Villa lost at home last weekend which was a surprise?
Let us be positive. Anything can happen. Man City can lose against Spurs and Liverpool next, and we could be 7 points ahead again
Some of us could see this coming. we have played this crappy football since last season. We were happy with the points but we were not playing championships football all season. Our performance is catching up to us and if we don’t change course, we will find ourselves fighting for top 4. And Arteta needs to go If we don’t win the league or CL.
What a bad result, winless in three now. And sloppy play, the Emirates crowd tried to be the twelfth man unlike previous games. We need to recover quickly from this and put a good run.
Arteta is a confirmed EPL bottler and he will continue to be but I think this season we will be celebrating the title at long last (I am already celebrating early) because the rest of the contenders are bottlers times three.
I have high hopes for the CL as well and I put us a firm favorites.
HH is this really you? 😄
It’s really me Sue 😁
No matter how many we drop who is there to capitalize on it? City more likely will drop more points than us and Villa even with Emery wizardly it’s only a matter of when they fade out.
Regarding the CL I think that’s where his forte really is and it’s a matter of when not if.
Good to see you 🙂 We’ve been in this position before, HH and City handled it better than we did. If we were only up against Liverpool, we’d have it wrapped up in no time 🤣 A result like today and I’m afraid the doubts begin to creep in. And as for the CL, well our record in Europe is so poor… so I’ll believe it when I see it.
This is not the same City anymore. We don’t know which City will turn up nowadays.
Judging by what has transpired so far this season, we will keep increasing and decreasing our leading gap until it reaches mathematically impossible to catch us.
I do not see us losing the lead at any point this season no matter how big or small it is.
Exactly
We will top the league till the end of season
I wonder how some fans can’t see that
Aston Villa cannot put up a winning run that also cannot put
And Man City ain’t better than us
The points will keep increasing & decreasing but we’ll remain top till the end
The other matches we could drop points are Newcastle, Tottenham, Brighton, Chelsea
Which is the same for Man City
But also includes Liverpool, Aston Villa for them (which we don’t have anymore)
We have a head start, and We think Man City have more matches they could drop points – we will likely end up winning the league by 86 to 76 or a bit wider – but it’s the not knowing isn’t it. Man City and Erling could go on a run now and breeze through they difficult run of games – we are coming out of a tricky run of games, not least how quick and fast they came and many were away – but will our wobble continue, into games not as challenging as today’s opponent?
What is interesting is how the difficulty of opponent can vastly change throughout the season – Palace away was thought difficult, but they’ve imploded and are going to get relegated, and we have to see Man Utd performance today alongside their annihilation of Man City a week ago.
This coming Wednesday is a key night in the Premier League season, as Man City bid to avoid 2 extra games in February by beating Galatasary – and look at the players they got. And even then, some sides may miss top 8 on 16pts. A Madrid behind Citeh on just 1 goal, and are home to Bodo and Gimly. If City finish get those 2 playoff games, then put the trophy in a helicopter Wednesday evening and fly it to the emirates.
Hopefully, BO the strength of Arsenal’s squad will carry us through, if Mikel Arteta utilizes his players correctly. The lack of squad depth will hinder Unai Emery and Aston Villa.
I agree HH. City are going through a transition which means they will continue to be inconsistent. Don’t be surprised if Villa overtake them if their Newcastle performance is anything to go by. I’ve had my doubts over the past 3 years but this year I’m confident we’ll win the EPL plus one more trophy. We and Bayern are probably the two top teams in Europe at the moment.
But as today proved – when it comes to one off games in cup competitions, home away or finals, anything can happen.
When someone wins a cup, like Arsenal winning a cup, it’s completely forgotten how the lottery system of draws that season gave out home ties and/or lower league opponents. Top sides don’t win cups, the luck of cup draws hands it to them.
PL is the ONLY trophy worth getting bothered over.
Someones drunk the wrong kool aid. CL?, this is the Arsenal, we cant win an euro trophy. Even spuds won it b4 us and epl? We have been here b4 and sadly, likely same outcome.
We finished 2nd when Leicester won the title and everyone thought they would fade away.
Villa won today in Newcastle and they have not won three the last 5 years. So it is naive at best to think
others teams will drop points when it is us that are
currently bottling it. 2 points from the last 3 matches is a terrible output and instead of running away with it now we are in perilous territory and pressure is pilling up.
Look at it from another angle. We have 2 points out of 9 while City and Villa have 4 out of 9 each. Does that look like they are a threat?
Let’s extend it to the last 5 games. We have 8 out of 15. Villa and City have 7 out of 15 each. Do they still look like a threat?
Speaking of which its funny how their results are nearly identical each game week.
What has won us the title this season is our ealry big points gap from the pretenders. There is currently no team capable and consistent enough to close that gap.
I think we might end up winning it, HH.. But the opposite is also true. I hate loosing against Manchester and being at home makes it worse. Imagine if the teams behind us manage a winning streak. Villa went on 12 wins and won away to Newcastle! If city manage that and with our failure to capitalize and make it comfortable for us., is a reason for doubts to creep in. And if eventually the end justfies the means, who cares
I hate losing to that team too. It’s my ultimate dream to see them relegated. I have been extremely enjoying their mid table abyss. Long may it continue.
Very disappointed today.
Those 2 Man Utd goals were top class. They deserved to beat us. They had hunger and we had nerves.
I still cannot understand picking Zubimendi ahead of Merino against dangerous teams like Man Utd. Zubimendi is fine against Bournemouth or Brighton. I would even prefer MLS ahead of Zubimendi.
To some extent it was the tactic United played against our playing out from the back, looking to pressure the 6.
I’m not sure the change from the subs helped – both Ode and Rice were playing okay in the eights imo.
@ MG
I hear what you are saying. But we have countered this tactic before.
We edged the first 28 min. Then scored.
I sensed nervousness/anger from MA after the first attack where MU carved us up. That transmitted to the players and fans. They never recovered.
If we had played our natural game and the fans got behind us better we would have drawn or won. That would have sent a better signal.
Congrats to MU. Perfect away performance against us.
We might still get over the line not because we are good but that the other contenders are just as bad as us and we have a lead.
IGL. I’m presuming you were at the match by reading your comments. To say we edged the first 28 minutes doesn’t ring true to me at all. There was nothing about the demeanour of the crowd to suggest we were edgy either. Fought for and won almost every duel and Utd – whilst not under the cosh, did not look in control of the situation. Arsenal deserved their lead. The edgy atmosphere occurred due to the goal scored after Zubimendi made the mistake. It was like a hammer blow and the silence of the home fans was deafening. Equally, it gave Utd confidence to take the game to Arsenal as it then became us on the defensive.
The difference between the behaviour of the Inter crowd compared to Arsenal is that they never gave up the fight until the 3rd goal went in. We as fans retreated into our shells only to cheer up when Merino scored.
@ SueP
I wasn’t in the ground but the TV pictures gave a clear sense of the atmosphere.
I am not only blaming the fans.
Mostly the manager’s reaction to the Ist time we were carved up by them even though they did not score.
That just affected the players and they were nervous and tired.
No doubt a bad result, but I would advise calm in these difficult times. The form for the top 3 teams in the league, does not give sleepless nights. Arsenal has been poor but so as the others.
Not s excuse, I am confused about the handball rule. Thought that anybody who scores a goal after the ball has touched his hand, accidental or not that goal shouldn’t stand!! Howard has some explaining to do.
Yes. From the replays they gave us, it looked clear forearm to ball no hip involved. If we had goal disallowed from that handball, we wouldn’t have complained too much. That’s what VAR is for.
Spot on Kenya and MG, the interpretation of the handball rule in the EPL is unfathonable.
Until that horrible goal, Arsenal were in control of the game. They fought for every ball and Utd mostly had every man behind the ball. After that, they took the initiative and we looked flustered.
Utd came out for the second half refreshed and Arsenal didn’t. I’m not surprised Utd scored.
I’m not sure Eze – sorry to mention him – offered anything, but after levelling and having the voices of the crowd behind them, Utd’s third was a punch to the stomach and it was a disappointing end.
I thought we’d win. That opener for Utd gave them a way in.
Shout out to Rice who played like his life depended on it. From the first half, Saka was excellent and Odegaard was good too.
I didn’t realise how big Maguire is. He dwarfed Jesus.
You are the only one in the comment section making sense. We were out playing united before that zubimendi horror show , personally I put the blame squarely on Saliba for taking too long to pass and giving it to a zubimendi, after that goal united just smelt blood. But we tried to wrestle the game back then zubimendi again (he did it at Bournemouth game) refused to close down dorgu instead he was busy raising his hands looking for a call from the ref.
All in all I hope this loss is going to be the wake up call the team needs to realise that they are not home and dry yet. And I hope to god Arteta rests the first team against Kairat armaty . We are still four points clear and have concluded our games with villa, Liverpool and man united. Let’s hope we get a good run in February.
Thank you Emperor Augustus
I think it partly stems from being there. You hit the nail on the head as Utd did smell blood. You could have heard the Utd fans south of the Thames when they scored. Unfortunately, we didn’t get behind our players. It was deathly quiet. Shocked silence
A wake up call indeed
Warning signs earlier sue, just that Manchester didn’t capitalize and we didn’t learn! Lately we’ve been sloppy and making unforced errors. Needs to change ASAP.
The unforced errors Kenya001 are creeping in. Hopefully it hasn’t been brought about by complacency. I didn’t think so on the night, but the players were using so much energy
I don’t think it’s complacency, overall at least.
I think it’s mainly exhaustion, mixed with some nerves and some tactical instructions. I’m relieved we don’t have to play the extra two playoff matches in the CL, anyway!
Very true Bergkampfwagen
I understand the view that our game against Inter didn’t need the top brass, but everyone did get minutes and had the flights to contend with too. That’s up for debate imo as to whether that was wise.
The bottlers didn’t bottle an expected test against them then. But that’s what’s on the menu now
SueP, in my 65 years of following the Arsenal, I cannot remember an Arsenal captain being substituted in games when Arsenal was behind, as many times as Martin Odegaard. Can anyone remember Frank McLintock, Tony Adams, Cesc Fabregas or Patrick Viera being substituted, if not injured, when Arsenal was behind.
Surely it is time for the captain”s armband to go to Rice or even Gabriel, because their leadership and their form on the field would be more consistent.
OG
Odegaard was undroppable until the so called better squad began the season. I thought he did ok yesterday and as always worked very hard. I previously mentioned his replacement- Eze who has hardly had a sniff at starting and based on yesterday’s effort, I can see why. Strolling about, not really harrying the opposition and a yellow card within a few minutes. My point being, that Odegaard needs rest.and should be getting more of it.
Regarding the armband, I’m not against Odegaard retaining it. If you are implying that because he is being subbed more regularly that it’s disadvantageous to the team, you have a point.
Arsenal will not win the Premiership.A Premiership winning team would come from behind and beat Man U today.Personally i think Aston Villa will beat Man City on the last day to clinch the tile.We will finish 3rd
What a load of tosh. Have you seen the other contenders of the league?
Though we rarely played well this season, the others have been in worse shape.
Baring a bottle job of epic proportions, I really can’t see us not winning the league
We’re in pole position. But I’ll say it again – Man City plugged their biggest gap over this January window, and so will become more consistent again. They will run us to the end. Last season we experienced a lot of draws. We tried to solve for that with new additions as the perception being that our depth was the main issue (largely true), though arguably only Zubimendi has been a real hit. If that scenario happens again, we’ll be slowly dropping points, while Man City remains hard on our heels. We need to figure out how to get back to winning games on our own terms, not scraping through them.
Not even entertaining title talk again this season.. seen this movie too many times before, if this team looks nervous now what are they gonna be like come April/May? That brand of football (walking football) won’t win major trophies. We’ll be off top spot by next month. But but but it’s ok Arteta has brought the fans together again. 👏
walking football is a good description
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Well said. We were playing at home and we were short of confidence throughout.
Did you think that we lacked confidence before the mistake? It didn’t look like it to me.
This is what happened last year, draws and losses and we lost the league. Maybe zubemendi shouldn’t have been taken off, maybe he would’ve stopped Cunha, we were very open down the middle, although he made a howler for their first goal. We need to get into the mentality that we are going to batter teams, not score then try and hold onto it. I don’t think they were the better team, just they had the luck of the draw with the refs decisions.
Gmv8, do you agree with me that Christian Norgaard deserves more opportunities, to shore up the midfield in front of the back four? He is a proven experienced EPL DM, who is not too shabby in attack as well.
I am sure certain people only wake up and start commenting when we lose, which isn’t that often. YAWN
A poor poor game from our point of view
not a nice feeling losing and I do hope we don’t have to feel to often from now to the end of the season
We weren’t going to win it if we won today and we certainly not going to lose it but come on boys let’s not make a test of it.
Onwards and upwards
It was also a poor game against Forest and poor game against Liverpool, 2 points from 9 is hardly inspiring mate. We fail to take advantage when opposition slip up and fail when the pressure is on. Yeah we should have had a penalty and Dorgu goal should have been disallowed but we were still shockingly bad again.
No we weren’t until the mistake
Kevin
First half against pool we were really good bit we couldn’t pu them to bed and 2nd half they stepped it up and we’re good for a point
Forest we simply didn’t a d couldn’t put the ball in the back of the net
Todays game we go 1 nil up and buckle.
A sloppy first goal to let them back in
We fold after we pull it back 2 – 2 but credit where credit is due. They got the new managers bounce and score 2 super goals.
I hate that losing feeling and last time I felt that was against villa but we went tow to toe with them a d lost it in injury time
Thos game felt like a give a away and last time we conceded 3 goals at home … I honestly can’t remember
So do I mate losing to United doesn’t ruin my day it ruins my week but I’m not gonna sugar coat poor performances and they were no matter how you dress up. Liverpool have been dreadful all season and we didn’t even score once against them and everyone was beating forest and we show up and give them a point. We looked on top early in the game today, we score and like a lot of games this season the momentum switches to the opposition, why is that? We did it against Sunderland, also against villa and again today! There’s a mentality problem at this club and the buck stops at the manager.
Time will tell
I personally think we will get it over the line
I don’t think the other 2 teams chasing us are strong enough to see it through even though we keep giving them life lines
In past seasons gone by I personally think our teams is strong enough physically and mentally to see it over the line
The manger whilst some hate him is far from being a bottler as some have called him
He didn’t do it in his football career and I haven’t seen him do it as a manger
He has made mistakes and big ones at times but there is a difference between making mistakes and being a bottler
The boys, manager and club will see it through this season
And personally I can’t wait
Its boring reading the comments from the riaisng dead after they have tasted a slight.bit of blood again
Everyone is entitled to there opinions as long as it is constructive
Bit not spout of the same.old rubbish
Its boring
Onwards and upwards
It’s the hope that kills mate. Well if we don’t win the league then it will be another bottle job what else will it be ? I hope you are right and I’m wrong I’m not of these fans that would rather us not winning to be proven right! I will say scoring and then sitting back (like we do so often) won’t win you a title. Performances need to improve massively.
*one of*
Totally agree
Not sure what to call MA and the team if we don’t win it
Will keep.my powder dry until then
Fair enough mate 😉
Kev, my issues with Mikel Arteta, who in honesty has been “learning on the job”, but has been highly supported in the transfer market, are the negativity in some games and the inability to use his player resources properly. He has not been helped by some injuries to critical players, but he has the squad depth now to alleviate that.
Calafiori has been a very big miss in that LB position and inverting Midfied role as well.
It will be very interesting to see how many passes we have misplaced or given away this past few games because it seems like the intensity in the league is getting to us . A lot of the players look tired as well and are making very simple avoidable mistakes.
Arteta needs to pull out all his tricks he has left in the bag because we cannot lose this league title again to City.
Winning at Inter showed we need to start rotating more and not just 1 game.
COYG!!! All we need is 13 wins and 1 draw then we are Champions 😅😅
Kev,
I have to disagree regarding they we should have had a penalty. Come on, what was Maguire meant to do, he was using his hand to balance nothing more. 🤦♂️
ONly 3 poor epl games. recently so WHY are
we panicking….shock horror. Er, maybe we dont like seeing the same rerun?
I just love the fanboys positivity, even after 6 years and seeing the same crap over and over, they still trust the process.
Well you can.alway switch off until the end of the season and turn on and watch the rerun of what is hopefully a magical season
Its hard being a fan but if most fans can’t see the positive in some of the negatives at times then we might all as well go and support a local charity cause
6 years ago it was poor
I believe we have come a long way since then
So it’s not all being crap as you politely put it 😃
Pdoff, no need to panic, but 3 poor games show a drop off in performance and application, which is not good when chasing titles.
However much we may love our team and Manager, for one reason or the other, we are simply overrated!! Period!!
We are indeed mate 👍
Can a side topping Champions League and Premier League going into February be over rated?
Maybe it’s the opposite? Until the side gets a PL and couple of other trophies over the line, it doesn’t quite believe in itself.
In the minds of these Arsenal lads, are they visiting a museum, or an exhibit. What tangible have they won that convinces themselves they are now one of histories exhibits?
Once you get across a line, and get a crown on your head, you become different. You are not really different until then.
Out of the sides who could be in this seasons title race, it was always going to be more nervy and difficult for this Arsenal Team and fans. Looking at the fixtures of the three in the race, we have a great chance.
If you demand your players and manager to be brave, you must be brave yourself, as a fan. Just keep singing them on till the seasons final whistle.
You are making an important point.
However, our position at the top of these tables tells only part of the story. The other part lies in the level of confidence we derive from how our results are being achieved. At present and with predictably either set piece or own goals, we are bereft of ideas in attack honestly. Smaller teams are easily analysing and adapting to our style of play, and by mid-March or April, there is no genuine confidence that we will still be in our current positions.
It is the frustration born of that insecurity that is disturbingly uncomfortable. Our playing style does not yet convincingly reflect that of a team asserting itself as champions.
Tyndale 👍
But not to underestimate the part the PL computer has played. Table shows Ars and Citeh have played same number of games, but they have not played the same games. From now it starts getting less challenging for us. From March, for the first time in years, we have a very straightforward run in.
Tell that to Arsenal womens…they actually look different, sadly poorer different
Tyndale,
If our team is overrated as you say, what does that say about all the other teams. 🤦♂️
Just think, the concensus was that, apart from a couple of fans wanting Zubimendi rested, this was the starting eleven most of our fans wanted.
No Gyokeres, no Martinelli, Odegaard taken off, while the “handbrake” was taken off.
Despite us being top of the PL, it wasn’t good enough and the football we played needed to change.
After our third defeat of the season, having changed personnel and style, it suddenly seems that Arteta, by following the advice of certain fans, is the culprit and all those fans that wanted changes are up in arms once again!!
We lost to a squad that has been rejuvenated under their new manager and, in my opinion, the number of games we’ve played versus them, was so evident in our display.
It’s now the doom and gloom merchants time to come out of the woodwork and, boy, aren’t they enjoying it?
Our third defeat in all competitions and they are here, saying the exact same things as when we lost to Pool and Villa.
I wonder if manure would swap our season for theirs?
We’ve got to take the defeat full on and admit we lost to a better team on the day, move on and support the club.
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Sorry was not ment as a reply to you Ken ,but having read your post I’ll give you 😂😂😂😂
So you watched this game then DK?
You don’t think we lost to the better team on the day then?
Great to know your so positive mate, unlike the konstantine’s of our fanbase, long may it last 👍
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Yes Ken I watch PL football Obviously!
Regarding the CL ,massively gone down hill so have better things to do with my time .
Obviously lost to the better team ,as we lost!
As for your para , not sure I understood that 😂
Ken1945. here ,here,and, well said sir.the very first thing everybody must learn,regardless, if they are players,or, fans is how to lose.loss is part of any game . get over it guys. there are a lot of premier league clubs that would love to be where we are right now.
Ken1945
My view was the error that led to Utd scoring changed them. Emperor Augustus wrote above – they smelled blood and it changed what had been a very good display
I’m sorry that so many- Konstantin for starters as I’d almost forgotten about him – are unable to see beyond their default position.
My only concern was the response to Utd scoring from both the crowd and the players It took a while to get over that and the slow football returned for a while.
It seemed like the stuffing was knocked out of us SueP – both the players and the crowd.
Good to see konstantine back though, we’re sure to get an article in the coming days and all will be revealed as to why this is our third defeat in nearly thirty games this season – can’t wait for the detailed reasoning.
Sorry SueP that I wanna win. Sorry that I refuse to get sucked into toxic positivity. This manager has failed us 6 seasons in a row. I’m not going to forget the past, because Mikel is good looking.
Our performance was an abomination. Let’s call it what it was. Why is always someone else better?
How do you defend the bottlejob claims when it reapears the moment any pressure is here. 1 billion spent on a team that can’t attack. We deserved to lose and I won’t take it like it’s nothing. You can go in Dreamland, this manager is never winning a major trophy.
Konstantin
We all want to win. Where exactly is this toxic positivity? It might have reared its ugly head midweek when we beat Inter away, but you weren’t here to share. Me. I don’t suffer from toxic positivity and will call it as I see fit and I have tonight.
Are you really missing the point? We choked under the pressure in the league.
We’ve qualified in the CL. Beating inter or not didn’t really matter. Job was done. There’s something on the line in the league and we haven’t won in 3. We could’ve been more than 10 points clear.
Titles are handed in May, not January. We’ve been here before – hoping, believing. Remember Liverpool, West ham and Southampton? We’re choking again and the results show it. We are reviving a dead City team and I’m being negative. This fanbase deserves to win nothing because they look at January and think we’re great. I’ve given Milel 6 seasons. Enough is enough. I don’t believe we will win, because I see this dross every week.
It is very strange of you Konstantin to always appear when the team is performing poorly so that you can prove your point! This is an extremely negative attitude and doesn’t reflect a true fan of our team! It simply serves your ego to show you are right while the others are wrong! My question is: What is the motivation for this attitude? Let us assume Arteta is sacked as a manager after the team fails to win a trophy, how would you benefit from this? Anyway, different people are moved by different motives and I don’t blame you but I am surprised by your attitude!
No you are missing the point. Here you are just panicking unnecessarily. It’s January and Arsenal are in a title race. It is normally a challenge to win a title and so be it. Arsenal are still in it.
We can do without ridiculous negativity at this time of the season.
But we are still 4 points clear!? How have we choked. City hadn’t won there past three games till yesterday. We haven’t won our past 3 epl games. Unless offcourse you want to see us go undefeated.
Konstantin,
Exactly, you’ve just said it. Titles are handed out in May. So no need to panic just yet. 🤦♂️
“toxic positivity” WTF is that?
Konstantin,
As disappointing as the result is, do you really think that we can win every game. If you do, then I’m afraid you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.
It’s totally unrealistic to think that will happen, and when it does it doesn’t make them bottlers.
Now if come May they have lost several games and it’s gone pare shaped, then we’ve got a different conversation. But come on, be realistic, as I’ve said if you think we won’t lose here and there you are quite frankly in la la land. 🤷♂️
I agree Derek. Look at any great title winning side, then look at the L and D columns. Football is not meant to be easy. It’s 38 games get as many points as you can from the toughest league in the world, where just about every side pack a real punch that can land on the day.
If fans lack the character and bottle that they boo the team off at only half time when it’s 1.1 with Man Utd – do such fans even deserve to see their side win a title?
Moon Girl,
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I noticed that too. I definitely wasn’t baying for Jesus up front against a Carrick Man Utd, I have to say. Carrick has something of Arteta’s measure when it comes to tactics, as evidenced by his earlier stint, and he has clearly figured out how to use Amorim’s team much better than poor old Ruben, as we also saw against the other top team in the league, Man City. I mentioned the other day that I see Carrick’s Man U as a team rejuvenated and one that will end in the CL places in May. Clearly they were better than us in this match, even if I expected us to beat them based largely on record and team unity. I expect them to continue to do very well the coming months.
I think the Man Utd players are close to embarrassing themselves. The only conclusion from last two performances is they were previously very deliberately trying to get rid of the Nasty Weirdo out the club and out their lives.
Ken1945, too many people are overly obsessed with Gyokeres’ lack of goals and ignore the pressure he applies to defenses, committing defenders to multiple man marking him and providing space for Arsenal’s attacking players.
Zubermendi has very good replacements in Norgaard and Merino. I am confused by why Arteta underutilizes Norgaard, who is a proven EPL midfielder. Every time he has played, he has not let Arsenal down.
I agree OG and the same goes for Madueke and Eze.
Odegaard, Saka and Zubimendi need to be rested and we have the perfect replacements within the squad.
Gyokeres is being pilloried because of his lack of goals, but his work rate off the ball is benefitting everyone else.
What I found confusing was the summmer signings on the bench
Eze ,Victor and Madeuke -200 million odds worth .
All Berta signings ?
Odegaard once again did his best disappearing act ,apparently he’s back to his best !🤔
Overall not a good day
But hasn’t the cry from the negative fans (unlike you and me DK of course) been that Gyokeres was a waste of money and needed dropping, Madueke was yet another chelsea cast off and Eze was a signing we made just to upset our noisy neighbours and we didn’t need him anyway.?!
So MA did what they wanted and know they’re moaning about it!!
Agree with you regarding Odegaard, but what Arsenal player was at his best today?
What !!!! 😂
Surely your related to David ,”you can’t be “or “can you ,maybe you are “?
Nah mate.
I’m just remembering what was said on JA about the three players you mentioned sitting on the bench.
Have to admit, I can’t remember exactly what you said about the three of them when we signed them, care to refresh my memory?
Did any Arsenal player put on his best display of the season by the way?
Only player out the 3 that i questioned was Madeuke ,you can easily google JA archives and read for yourself if your that worried what I said !
As for what I said regarding the 3 players was nothing to do with my or anyone else’s opinion , it was to ask why 200 million was spent in the summer and why were they on the bench , I’m not the manager .
Maybe you should be asking “why did we waste 200 million in the summer “sorry don’t want you to think that I’m telling you what you should be thinking as a fan ,god forbid ,that never happens on here does it ?
That’s an easy question to answer, if you add up what was on the pitch value wise.
When all our players are fit, there will always be a lot of money sitting on the bench.
Nothing to do with Berta when MA chooses his starting eleven or his subs.
Perhaps Ken, I will disagree with you on this rather sarcastic note! The manager should do his job the way he knows best and not listen to the fans’ uncoordinated demands! The fans can sometimes be emotional and irrational but the manager should remain calm and composed. I don’t disagree with you though on the impact the fans can have on the manager. I remember we lost Emmanuel Adebayor, Gervinho and other players because of the pressure exerted by fans!
What 😂
I agree with you David and MA has been selecting his team and that’s why we’ve only lost three games all season.
But when he does select players that the more negative amongst us have been calling for and we lose, they clamour for his head!!
I’m in the camp that says let’s wait until the end of the season and judge the situation then.
At this moment in time, we are top of the PL and CL, in the semi final of one domestic cup and into the fourth round of the other cup, having lost just three games this season, so I’m positive enough to enjoy this position.
Odegaard wasn’t bad in the first half , he gave the assist for the first goal and showed glimpses of his old self. It was 2 reasons we lost today
1. Defensive midfield steel we lack. Zubimendi is not only light weight but also plays very horribly when he is not moving the ball forward , his of ball game is also nothing to write home about. When rice or odegaard goes to recycle the ball from the defenders they always tend to look for Trossard or Saka and move the ball forward, zubimendi on the other hand becomes like a deer looking at headlights of a car he then proceeds to pass the ball back to the defender that gave him the ball initially. He also doesn’t know how to close down attacking opposition players allowing them to have shot on goal. But when the ball is in the opposition half at the edge of the 18 yard box, that’s where he thrives a d plays his best.
2. No strikers. There is nothing anyone can tell me about Gabriel Jesus , he is not that guy. I’m still willing to give Gyokeres this season, if he still fires blank next season then we should count our loss and ship him out. We no longer have that striker that can take the ball from the midfield and drive into the opposition 18 yard box the way Henry, djunberg, pires and arshavin do. Look at how Cunha scored united 3 rd goal , when was the last time you see and arsenal player do such.
I haven’t lost all hope yet because there seems to be a rejuvenation of some teams happening (Manu and Chelsea) and these teams are still to play against our very closest rivals villa and city. They might have a say in the title race.
EA, Norgaard is a proven experienced DM, who has not let Arsenal or Arteta down, in the limited opportunities he has been given. He would surely provide “defensive midfield steel”.
I actually thought we should have stuck to our usual starting team this match, with Gyok up front to tie up their defenders, it’s a painful watch but it’s been working all season. Though it didn’t work for Pep with Haaland last weekend, I’ll admit, so regardless of fan opinion I’m sure Arteta considered that and tried to change things up to throw a hail mary / Jesus among the pigeons.
Maybe we just have to acknowledge that Carrick actually knows how to turn this Man Utd team into one of the best teams in the league…
Eze hasn’t been firing either and Madueke rarely starts in place of Saka, so those weren’t exactly unexpected.
Purely on physical stature, Harry Maguire is 6’4” compared to the diminutive Jesus who at 5’9” was dwarfed. Gyokeres at 6’2”” might have had a better chance.
What also struck me was our lack of success with corners – the crosses particularly by Saka which were either new ideas from Jover or not well executed. Perhaps it was Maguire commanding the area that changed the tactic but a taller CF might have had more success. Just a thought
SueP, I agree with your assessment about the need for physicality in the CF against Manchester United. Basic football if you are counting on goals from corners and crosses. Havertz also has physicality, but this game may be too early for him.
Fact is we are playing like headless chickens in the first half of the second leg. The fear of losing is seen in the players. Once again, we find it difficult to cope with the pressure. We are not playing like champions, and I fear we are not going to be champions this season. “Deja vu”.
Zubimendi on the bench, please.
Rinse and repeat! Where have their cojones gone??
No!!! Not headless chickens at all. We’re playing a controlled comatose.
English is your specialist subject
I try hard Sue.
Anyone noticed no home team won today? Seems to be a bad day in the office for home teams!!. How Arteta motivates his team now will be crucial. And resting all our players in midweek is needed.
Bad comparison and source of comfort especially if we expect to be Champions of anything
The trouble is we have players who aren’t really firing. Eze always looked fantastic for Crystal Palace, I’m not sure what happened to him, maybe we need to look in the transfer market.
Arsenal’s new attacking players have contributed very little in this season. None of them have scored goals when it mattered against good opponents or important matches. This worrying as they have spent £150 k on those 3 players!
Vithal, to say Gyokeres is “contributing nothing” is extremely harsh, when he is closely double or triple marked in most games, creating space for others.
4 points clear at the top of the PL after losing to a rejuvenated Man Utd and the moo moos are out in force 🙄.
Konstantin. Your team is top of PL and CL. Invincibles-only supporter? How about supporting your team and manager when they need it?
One common mistake we make is to asse that some negative comments are coming from lack of support for the team.
The team and manager are well loved and supported. But with where we are, it goes beyond mere talk of support. The story of how we’ve got where we are isn’t very assuring that we’ll achieve expected goals and that is where it’s beginning to hurt
**we make is to assume that …..
Congratulations to man u. The first home loss and a big warning to Arteta. To be frank watching arsenal play some times makes me feel sick. Why Arteta stand at the touch line and watch his boys play useless passes? Why would Arteta continuously adopt such an embarrassing negative football ? Why must they always want to walk the ball to the net? Does it mean that the boys are not taught how to play shot at goal post? Yes, arsenal is still on top of the table. But, if they continue this way, we will sing our yearly song by May. Let somebody tell Arteta to change his tactics and play positive football.
Enough of this heartbreak
First home loss. First warning. More to come except Arteta changes his tactics and play positive football. It’s really unacceptable to see players always want to walk the ball inside the net. Side ways and back passes are killing our game. Amen one of the fans that believe that it will be difficult for Arteta to win a major trophy with this tactics. Waiting for him to prove me wrong.
Really sad but hoping our key players get some rest during the week and we come back strong against Leeds with a win. No more slip ups. Our style of play is not sexy but I really hope we can go over the line this year.
It’s very very clear Arsenal won’t win Epl.
don’t think it is very very clear. It is possible I will grant you but the top three all have flaws.
Zubimendi howlers. After his blunders he hid himself rather than trying to amend. Mentally too soft a player despite being a Spain international.
You must have missed his header that he nearly scored from just after Utd scored their 1st goal. I would hardly call that hiding.
HD,
Nearly scored a header? His minutes compared to his influences. Zubimendi virtually gave Utd a life line when they were almost on the ropes. Yeah he’s new to the intensity of the EPL. He will deffo gives us much more
Haha you’ll find any little thing to suit your narrative, to mention a header stinks of desperation
A better character would admit flaws, you are so desperate to defend Arteta that you refuse to accept facts
“But he tried a head later so he’s not gone missing”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Zubi just needs a rest.
Mid week against Kairat is the perfect opportunity.
right now in EPL it seems like if the opponent can survive our first thirty minutes then the points are up for grabs. We hit a wall and drop off the press and the other team gets their heads in.
After our first assault teams get organized and we are not capable of breaking a low block. The corners are a real help here but a disciplined team can lessen this threat.
Then, at least every few games, somebody has an absolute brain fart and we give up a goal. Zubemendi today but it has been Raya, Saliba, Gabriel and others. I am sure that about half of our goals come from really idiotic mistakes in our final third.
Not sure why we bought Eze as he really doesn’t have it in our system and Odegard can’t keep up the pace. I had hoped that he would come flying back from injury but it just hasn’t happened.
As disappointing as this was we are still first, perfect in Europe and in both cups but it is all going to be white knuckle driving for the rest of the year – any result possible on any night.
SM
I felt the mistake changed the dynamic completely. What really got my goat was how we started the second half after the disappointment of Utd drawing level. No surprise that the second that thought came into my head, Utd scored. Coming back to draw was a massive positive and the crowd came alive again- urging them on. The Cunha goal so soon after getting back to 2-2 sucked the remaining life out of them.
Moon Girl mentioned Calafiori being out being a loss. I think that’s a fair comment
We will always miss players when it’s a bad result, but I think with the team we had there are no excuses. Zubimendi’s clanger gave them confidence and we then played more like a team desperate to win rather than with the belief to do so. We lacked some flair and creativity and I look to Odegaard for this, but he is not the player he has been.
I love Ricky. He doesn’t make too many mistakes. When being coached defending you are taught there’s plus and minus from getting in tight, but Ricky does tight so very well, it’s his top trump to be in tight very quickly.
Ricky’s problem is in number of times he presents as fit to pick.
This time we are told it’s something bizarre. Putting his back out lifting boxs of wine out the boot? Done the splits stepping on soap in the shower? Sent flying by dog **** when out on a run?
Utd are a much better team now that Carrick is putting round pegs in round holes. Nevertheless it’s a disappointing result and we now have to pull ourselves together and show we deserve to be champions. The sky is not falling but there are a few storm clouds around. We have a chance to blow them away against Chelsea, let’s go!
Some players I think are preparing themselves tactfully for the WC26 at the expense of the prospect of this team. Havertz and Calafiori why are they not helping the team?
What???
It’s hard to stay positive but we are still on top so it’s still in our control.
I believe out of this 15 games left, 13 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss can win us this league.
Can the boys go on a winning streak now????
That’s the million dollar question.
In a word no
I doubt they can either. And that’s a pity.
In other words, we won’t win the league this year. Because it will only take a pretty long winning streak of minimum 10 games for us to win the league.
I tend to wonder what the solution is to this club being successful in winning big trophies.
At this point I have fully surrendered that we won’t win it.
And if they still go on and win it, then it’s good and fine.
I think there is a lot of talent and value in this team. But that’s not enough. I don’t know if we can celebrate winning one or more titles in the end, but we have to Something was mentioned that sheds light on some dark questions. From this group, to make it clear who The metal of a Bergamo, a Henry, Pires, Vieira, Overmars, Ian Wright and many more players, who in addition to their competitive value, also had the soul and metal of a winner. Selfishness in the good sense. Who would express a lot of anger and sadness with a defeat? They had such a metal that if they took a blow, a slap for example, they would immediately strike back with more. Until the final fall if necessary. I mean as an example on the pitch. I know that first place when you don’t have a title should give you even more fire. Even Leicester the year they won the title Her players had this metal. Who from the current team has this metal? For me, Raya, White, Robert, Gabriel, maybe Saliba, definitely Rice, Merino, Zupimenti. He does Another. Players who should lift the team on their backs like Odegaard especially Saka do nothing. Few things. Neither Martinelli, nor Jokeres, Jesus wants but the Body does not follow. And all those I mentioned recently are not the kind of guys who, if they see a slap, will react, nor will they enter with determination and hunger against the opponent. They are From the children jam and butter. If they see a mistake they will run away to the police station to file a complaint. Understandable. Arteta is a coach who until He copied the pep in his entire training spectrum. But he forgot to ask him how in all this pep game the speed fits in the whole game. In short, a little. Does anyone like this?Where we are playing under Arteta. I think it’s clearly unfinished. Regardless of how the year ends, I think we still have the upper hand but someone has to touch them with a bare wire. In any case, I think Arteta has shown what he is and will never go any higher. From there on, it’s a matter of owners. No one can blame them anymore like they did.Previous years due to lack of sufficient funding, besides there were many open issues like the stadium. I think these are all some clearing up. This year we should have been 15 points.Different from the second one. There are no more excuses for anyone. ,,
And in a word still possible.
After Zubimendi scored v Villa, Arteta post match applauded his performance stating ‘he does what he wants’
Tactically we need to close down spaces in front of our back four to prevent conceding from long range shots as we did today and against Bournemouth.If this means switching the roles of Rice and Zubemendi or utilising Norgaard to stiffen our resolve in this area ,are matters for our Manager to consider, but something needs to be done to sort out a weakness in our set up.A hugely disappointing result particularly when we were in the lead and in control before Saliba and Zubimendi presented Utd with a gift which changed their attitude and boosted their confidence.After a good win in Italy, i sensed an element of complacency in our play today which was reflected in the first goal and in 2/3 other situations when Utd had half chances.To concede 3 goals anywhere tends to suggest that our much admired defence is not as strong as most of our fans think, but hopefully todays set back will make our players more determined than ever to get their act together again.
Grandad, I agree wholeheartedly about the need to close down the area in front of the back four. Being closer to the action than me, can you please explain why Arteta (in my view) underutilizes Christian Norgaard, a highly experienced EPL defensive midfielder?
I really have no idea Ozzie, as every time he has played, Norgaard has been strong and solid.
Nice to read a measured comment about the game rather than the hysterical ramblings of some people on here. Yes, I would like to see Norgaard used more.
Grandad and Marty, thank you; that makes at least three of us “in the dark” on this non selection.
Arsenal’s first captain Odegaard vs Utd’s first captain Bruno Fernandes. Day and night comparison that reinforces what Mr Arsenal Tony Adams said
The title should have been rapped up bar the shouting. We are making errors of our doing that is costing us. As soon as we get under pressure the system breaks down. Still, at the moment daylight between us. BUT we have to wise up. And quickly.
Yes Reggie, we’ve been making unforced errors lately. Needs to change quickly.
I think the boys need to train very hard on how to dispossess the opponents when they are with the ball from upfront.
Almost everyone seems to drive pass our attack and midfield without being caught.
I think we are missing a fit Partey. It’s unfortunate we don’t have a midfield destroyer and controller in Zubimendi.
I’m not sure Partey would have played the ball back like Zubimendi did to gift them their equalizer.
More heartbreaking story for the Kroenkes as their team Los Angeles Rams were beaten in the Super Bowl semi finals by Seattle.
I’m shattered😱😱😱
It’s time for Arsenal’s team B to become Team A for a while, because fatigue is beginning to set in for the regular starters.
Please, when is Havertz returning fully?
Yes, give Arteta a big consolation again. When some people make the same failed game, you have every reason to tell him, what are you doing? You are an idiot, don’t you ever learn? Some players They should not sit with the substitutes so much, and some others should become regulars on the bench more often. We will not hear again how we ended up below the first place And I’m really afraid that when the knockout games in the Champions League start, we’ll see the final from a long way away. Why? Because when someone named Arteta is leading our team. It’s not What you lost is, as Vieira said, how you lost. Elegantly accusing some players of poor professionalism. Some are playing with their hard work and the dreams of the fans, as if they are Indifferent in the middle of the table. Why? This is not even normal cerebrally and psychologically. What is happening?
Could’ve been 10/11 points clear, then ended up 7 points clear, now 4 points clear
For some reason this trend is difficult for some to see and acknowledge
In answer to the question you posed, Arsenal were never in the position of being 10/11 points clear in the first place so trying to show the gulf between what might have been to what is now is irrelevant imo.
For some reason, people expect the current leader – Arsenal – to have a commanding lead until the end of the season. It’s likely to be nip and tuck all the way
Bro, we need a new coach, this is Arsenal FC not Arteta fc.
Yes we dropped points in the last few games, and it is incredibly frustrating when City dropped points.
Play a completely different team against Kairat.
Let the boys have a week to re-assess the situation and start afresh if you would like. Press the re-set button and think of it as starting the season with a 4 point advantage.
We have a 4 point gap, we have Wolves and Leeds, City have Spuds and Liverpool… This is going to be a defining two weeks IMO.
I’m not going to go in on Arsenal despite this disappointing defeat. Looking at the game, they’ve only got themselves to blame haven’t they.
They were controlling the game and went 1-0 up. Then they made an error and gave United a way back into the game.
To be fair to United their 2 other goals were good finishes. And it was a case of three shots on target and three goals. It was the same regards saves made. Our keeper none, their keeper three.
There’s no doubt that this result highlights the missed opportunity’s regarding the Liverpool and Forest games, but that said we’re still in a good position. No need to panic just yet.
But I will just say to the certain poster’s who just dismiss whoever we are playing, while it’s up to them how they support and react to said opponent, a little bit of humbleness won’t go a miss.
Anyone who thinks that Leeds will just roll over, could be in for a rude awakening. There a different animal in their home surroundings, and while yes we might beat them well or just beat them. But rest assured it will not be the easy walkover that no doubt certain poster’s on here will be pedaling over this coming week.
Come on fellow poster’s, show a bit of respect for whoever we play.
Just my opinion obviously.
Derek, I completely agree with you.
Zero assumptions must be made.
Leeds are also hovering above the relegation zone, so they will definitely be hungry for points.
I agree Del. This is Man Utd who have played so well to beat Citeh and Arsenal in successive games, not the one that lost at Grimsby.
We are not going to pick up every point between now and end of season, some of the points we drop will be far worse than this, as the opponent won’t be as dangerous.
We can still drop ten points imo and win the title comfortably.
I think it was the injuries Derek? Oh wait?
We did try to ask fans to humble
I read last week will easily win the CL
I sometimes feel like I’m watching a different team.
So all fans lack humility? How many fans claimed that Arsenal would easily win the CL?
That’s just one example
Not all fans of course but I can give you many examples of us not being humble
We are a juggernaut
Comparison with the Invincibles
Arteta has surpassed Mr Wenger
Arteta will win more then Mr Wenger at Arsenal
Pep is afraid because Arteta has surpassed him
Arsenal will win their next 12 league games ( we didnt
Disrespect to the Carabo Cup
We will win the CL with ease
Why can’t we win the quarduple?
Halland won’t have a shot on target against us by
Can give you more ……
So yes , be humble and take it a game at a time
You’re right Derek about disrespecting other teams we are yet to play. The old saying is there are no easy games in the premier league and it’s true.
You are one of only a few people who hasn’t blown a gasket over the Utd result or at least recognise that until the mistake, Arsenal were controlling the game.
Mentality can be discussed until the cows come home about the players and in the aftermath of that goal, the crowd lost their voices for quite a period of time. No rallying songs, zilch. Against Inter, the noise was intense until the 3rd goal went in. It’s at moments like this that the expression Highbury library springs to mind. I could see the shell shocked faces and demeanour on the pitch to know that all their hard work had been let down by a mistake. Not a wonder goal but a mistake. I can also question the mentality of the players who lost their way for a while whilst Utd gained momentum. But they did get back into it with Merino’s goal.
As an extra, there was a period of sideways passing but for those who posted that it was throughout the match should be called out for gross exaggeration.
What also struck me was the poor quality of our set pieces, in particular from corners won. If I was to be critical of Arteta it was not playing Gyokeres because he put a tiny Jesus up against the giant of a man in Maguire.
Just listening to Petit and McCoist. Both said the fans need to get behind the team – not boo at the final whistle or lose their supporters’ voices. For God’s sake, what confidence will that give the team for future games?
SueP,
If their getting booed off at half time at 1-1 when there still 5 points clear at that point, goodness knows what’s going to happen to them if they fall a point behind.🤦♂️
SueP,
👍👍👍👍👍
The best we can get from Leeds utd is a draw.we can really do with a better coach
City in their next 2 matches play away at Spurs and Liverpool. Meanwhile Arsenal face 2 promoted teams in Leeds and Sunderland. There is a prospect the gap could extend to double digit to 10 points. Unassailable lead. The two weeks are important.
Man City have the ability to beat this current Spurs and Liverpool.
We just have to concentrate on ourselves and prove that we are superior to Leeds and Sunderland.
SJ yes we must win the next two; don’t worry we will do. At the same time we wish our rivals do drop points esp City to create buffer.
Spurs are always City’s nemesis and Liverpool at home are not push overs as they chase champions league spot. I hope Arteta will revitalise the team after gaining important inputs from Utd defeat. Let’s us be optimistic SJ
Yes, we have to be positive.
Hopefully they have learnt some lessons from this recent short slump.
We need a bounce against Leeds first.
Historically Arsenal have nice records against promoted teams.
What’s that Pep is nowadays bitterly complaining of ref injustices even citing 9 year old games v Chelsea until his most recent v Wolves? Is it part of his mind games to create siege mentality around City?
We have dropped points at a promoted team this season
Yeah against Sunderland when every top team lost we just drew which was not bad at that period. But historically we’ve excellent records. I foresee 10 or 9 pts gap as City may lose one and draw the other. February fixtures will define Arenal’s season. Hope as always you disagree
So that’s not a nice record then is it
You have this habit of saying things you want to be true
So every top team lost there ?
Man City drew there as well so again just made up
When City drew Sunderland were losing 6 players for Afcon. If that team which faced Arsenal played against City imagine what would. Your Arsenal draw prediction will be nullified by the heroics of Havertz
That’s not what you said
You said every top team lost we just drew
So again factually not correct
Hope your right
A massive goal
take your medicine. Your draw 1-1 prediction is too much flawed. i told you Arsenal have enviable record against promoted teams
Take my medicine ? What are you chatting about
It’s a prediction, nothing more , nothing less
And we didn’t have an enviable record ……as we literally dropped points this season against one lol
You got to stop making things up and hoping you don’t get caught out
Oh okay
Your predictions against Man United, Forest and Liverpool were also flawed ?
a blogger who wants his ‘commercial’ team beaten only for his predictions to be perfect is only you. COYG!!! At least Congratulate the fans mate.l despite your negative prediction.
What are you talking about ?
The only person who focuses on my predictions is yourself which isn’t the point of the game
It’s meant to be a bit fun
Even when I’m correct it’s you not me who points it out
It’s not that deep
If It carries on I will ask if it’s okay not to include you. You know the prizes come out of my money right ?
You know I run this in my own time ?
That’s really offensive so I’ll see if you carry on
But no you can’t attack players when they get a prediction wrong when your wrong as well .
Let’s say last 10 Arsenal games , shall we count how many you got correct ?
I only participated in only 3 predictions out of 24 thus far. I long ago stopped participating in predictions. At this moment The Fans worldwide need togetherness not scary frightening propaganda in the form of predictions.
What are you talking about
Propaganda ?
I literally predict what I think
I don’t think anyone is frightened by my predictions
Not going to engage with you anyone
Way too deep for me and way too serious lol
Will contact Michelle during the week though as I think your breaking serious rules on this site
Anymore
when hours ago i talked positive about today’s game with a reader you uninvitingly came in to disrupt the good mood between us. why you hate when people exchange good things about Arsenal? are you fifth columnist? okay i must respect your whatever prediction so should you do to others. hating Arteta to see him succeed and wishing Arsenal not to win titles are different things.
Yes that is the rules of the site to respect all readers
You can’t pressure readers Into predicting Arsenal will win every week
You got to change your mindset.
If for example I predict we will draw at the Ethiad , that is not me hating Arteta
Yes in the last few games I said we wouldn’t win but I was …..correct
There have also been times I said Arsenal will win and they haven’t
A reader tried this before and In the end we had to vote should we all only ever predict Arsenal to win because some can’t cope
That reader got banned from the site so honestly mate if you want to pick on people when they get predictions wrong don’t just come after me
The majority have been wrong for weeks and you don’t go after them nor did I ?
yeah i had been talking with a reader about Arsenal having good records against promoted teams but you suddenly disrupted the mood and made him vanish. after utd this family desperately needs togetherness. eventhough you may know this tie would be difficult to Arsenal you should have kept it to yourself and galvanise readers only thing you lose is your prediction.
No mate people are free to predict what they want
If a reader can’t cope with reading Arsenal won’t win they just don’t engage
You have zero right to demand readers keep it to themselves
In other words if anyone dares disagrees with you , you will bully them ?
Needs to stop mate
That’s me giving you a heads up
I am sovereign no worry mate about block. you dare bet pricey Arsenal will not win the title as you told us myriad times. the other day Michelle sadly told us ja stopped covering Arsenal women due to budget. give your betting budget to Michelle so that women football gets ja coverage. hypocrisy! propagated for Senegal to be banned from the wc but nothing material happened. trumpism at ja. because you fund the prediction game you can’t be a big brother mate lol.
Know idea what most of that has to do with anything lol ?
I’m not being Big Brother
We literally asked all readers do you want a rule in the Predictions game where players have to predict Arsenal to win because some can’t cope
Barely anyone said yes but I can ask again
You factually are wrong in predictions more then me
I said Arsenal won’t win quarduple or CL to you .
Difference is if we lost in semi final I wouldn’t single you out
Asking you to be respectful is literally me remind you of the rules of the site
And by the way you know you can write about women football if you want too ?
I wrote the occasional one