Arsenal have dropped further points in the Premier League title race after a 2-1 defeat to Bournemouth at the Emirates, leaving them increasingly close to Manchester City.
If Manchester City win their match against Chelsea, they would reduce the gap to six points, while also holding a game in hand ahead of their meeting with Arsenal at the Etihad Stadium. The situation adds further pressure to an already tightly contested title race in the English Premier League.
Arsenal’s campaign has been widely viewed as a major step forward, with supporters believing the club could even challenge for multiple honours this season. However, recent results have raised concerns about their ability to maintain momentum at a decisive stage.
Title Race Pressure Intensifies
It is difficult to ignore how quickly the landscape of the title race can change at this stage of the season. While Arsenal have shown quality and consistency for much of the campaign, this latest setback highlights the importance of maintaining standards under pressure.
Their rivals have not always been at their best throughout the season, yet Arsenal’s advantage has been built partly on capitalising when others have dropped points. Any inconsistency now, however, risks undermining that progress.
Concerns Over Consistency and Urgency
Arsenal possesses a strong squad with considerable depth, but questions are being raised about their urgency in decisive moments. The difference between contenders is often not quality alone, but the ability to sustain focus and intensity across every match.
Manchester City, despite their own fluctuations in form earlier in the season, appear to be finding rhythm at the crucial stage of the campaign. Their ability to string together consistent results in the run-in is once again proving decisive in the title race.
Arsenal, by contrast, will need to respond quickly to avoid allowing momentum to shift further. Every remaining fixture now carries added significance, and any further slip-ups could prove costly in determining the destination of the league crown.
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It would leave a bad taste, if we win nothing and Arteta gets a new deal. Give him one if we do but enough is enough, wasting talent with poor tactics has to end, if we fail again, for the forth time in a row.
they will offer him a new deal regardless
only way he leaves is if he chooses to walk
Not sure, its quite that simple. But we will see.
oh it is
only leaves if he wants
owners have manipulated some Gooners
Like the club did in the 70’s and up to the mid 80’s ?
I’ll concur the only way he leaves is by his own decision or massive fan protests✊
Massive fan protests never worked before, why do you think it would work now ?
Arsenal fans , we are the most annoying fans in the epl ! We were the reason our players failed yesterday! No encouragement when things goes slightly wrong. Picture faces at the Emirates yesterday and you will understand what I mean (even before Bournemouth scored)
We are sitting on top of the epl table for a reason. Show faith and respect to the management and players for once .
Come on you Chelsea
Arsenalbyforce,
It works both ways. While fans need to get behind their team, the team also needs to give them something to get behind.
I’m afraid that slow side to side and backward passing doesn’t really get the juices flowing. It just makes fans frustration grow, while watching this turgid football.
This team need unconditional support and love now Derek . Let’s push and judge them at the end of the season
They are running on a dry battery now because the past experiences are not helping matters .
The fans need to be the 12th player or else, we all perish again! If the Emirates was as silence as a burial ground yesterday, the City ground will swallow us without trace .
Arsenalbyforce,
I hear what you’re saying, but I stand by my stance of it working both ways.
It’s hard to create an atmosphere if all you’re watching is slow side to side and backwards passing.
Just imagine it in you’re head for a moment. Think of the slow play, can you really now hear the decibels in the stadium lifting. Of course you can’t, it’s nothing to get excited about is it.
Surely, however, let’s not behave as all is lost . We still have something to cling to.
The impending disgrace will be almost too much to beat if we fail completely this season again. The reason I refuse to give in yet . City are not all that great .
Why am I expecting favour from Chelsea!!!
Arsenalbyforce,
That in itself is a problem. We’re hoping for favour’s from others. We need to go for it ourselves, we shouldn’t be needing favour’s.
NEVER expect any favours from chelski. Not from results nor their rejects. Theres a readon why they are sold and you would castigate the villlage idiot that paid above market rates for them.
Doesnt say a lot about faith in the manager if you need to rely on other results to help your team?
The players dont give is fans reason to believe all is not lost.
There is a gutless attitude about their play.
An overly structured cautious approach to our attacking play has rendered our attack impotent and lacking of the dna of our past.
Hell! Does anyone remember those brilliant freddie lyumberg runs?
Instead, we have ball carriers with no ability to make intelligent forward passes
Derek, it does work both ways but whrn the football is so stale, how are the fans supposed to get excited. Did we pepper the Bournemouth goal, No, did we try to attack with gusto, No. The way we play, is meant to bore the pants off and wear down the opposition but it does the same to the fans. Play good football and the fans will be excited, play boring football and they don’t.
Reggie,
The report I heard was 6 years. Another 6 years of trust the process incoming. 🤷♂️😂
Derek, thats not funny🤣
It will be a colossal disappointment and a sour taste in the mouths of numerous supporters if arsenal FAILED to win epl and ucl, and arteta is given another deal after 7 enduring seasons without a major trophy. Man city has just reduced the tally to 6 points. Realistically and banter, arsenal is now the topic, it’s shameful. Enough is enough .
Arsenal is now a big club, they must develop a custom of demanding trophies from their coaches. Though Arteta has done a good job, it’s very clear he’s not the right person to win tittles for Arsenal. Get rid of him. Bayern, Real Madrid, PSG, Manchester United, Chelsea all cannot have a coach who has not won a major tittle for seven years. It’s time for Arsenal to know they’re a big club now. No title this season, ARTETA OUT.
There also has to be a serious look at recruitment.
We spent a ton and still face serious shortages because the summer signings have been poor for the most part (especially considering the cost).
It is being really generous to say Victor has been good, Eze shows up occasionally and Madueke works hard but not much comes from the effort and he does forget to come back.
Based on play the only people that would be automatically penciled in are Raya, Rice, Saliba, Gabriel, Timber and maybe Zubimendi (and I know that there are various opinions on him). And Timber continues our habit of acquiring fragile fullbacks. Even the centre backs have been making a lot of dumb mistakes of late.
After that, people have good games but they can’t be counted on consistently. Whether that is tactics, injury or performance can be debated but we can’t count on Saka anymore, Odegard has regressed significantly and the Trossard/Martinelli combo is poor most of the time. Jesus shouldn’t see the field. We don’t have a consistent left back (CBs have been filling in best there).
And the way we play is just awful to watch. To be resigned to hoping that we get a corner so we just might get a chance is so sad. We have reverted back to the backpass champions and teams break on us without much difficulty. We can no longer play out from the back.
It really is a complete collapse…and it is especially galling that City will be the beneficiary of the collapse. They are absolutely going to tear us apart next week, I just can’t see how we raise our game to any kind of meaningful level to even offer a glimmer of hope.
I agree with Stew. It’s not all down to the manager. I don’t think Arteta has been given enough squad quality or enough cutting edge quality to win a big trophy.
When was the last time Zubi or one of the wide forwards was up for a Premiership Man of the Match? Rice is pretty consistent, but so many players filling midfield and attack around Rice are not standing up as consistent as Declan is.
First team starters like Saka, Ode, Kai, Trossard – and the two classy International defenders Timber and Ricky – have injury hit seasons, in and out the team not getting fitness and form going, but behind it all the difficult truth to admit is midfield and forward line squad depth is not strong enough. It lacks quality. This is why at no point did it feel like a Title winning season. Maybe earlier in the season with consistent team selection and our best form we could believe, but since December Arsenals lack of top quality all over the pitch in 2026 is why we couldn’t break away and nail it down. There is just not enough quality to this Arsenal side and squad depth for those big six pointers against our betters. It’s hard admitting it, but it’s the only conclusion why other clubs can do April and May at end of a long season to win Champions League and Premiership, and Arsenal just can’t do April and May.
They call it a team game, but individuals provide the cutting edge to get you over the line in matches – who got man of match when Man City won Champions League final, for example. Which takes us back to my opening line above. Who is putting themself forward for man of the match?
Struggling against mid table teams in home matches can’t do anything with squad depth. It’s all about mentality and hunger to drive forward. But our manager has instilled cautious approach playing style on our players.
The problem with arsenal fans is that they fail to understand the problem with the team. Our problem is Arteta, how is it that every good player we sign does well immidiately he arrives only to decline after some months. Arsenal does not player football. I have been saying this since’ our players are afraid of receiving the ball. They hide away from the ball, especially the midfielders. Arteta does not teach them how to exploit spaces, our players are static, nobody moves into spaces to receive the ball, they are all scared of receiving the ball, and its all down to Arteta. I just can not understand how smaller teams can play expansive football with less quality players while arsenal can not. I have said it before and so do other fans, some section of our fans did not see it. Now the reality had hit us in face. It will take a miraclle for us to win any title this season.
And as far as Arteta remains our manager it will continue
There’s a lot of reasons for this latest April May title flop, but the main reason is same as the last 3 second place finishes, our squad is not the best in league so why should it win it?
We were only top as long as we were because all of Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea had off seasons, and Man City slowly forming before storming to the domestically treble. We completely fooled ourselves into thinking we were worthy super power, despite watching our team struggle to find cutting edge week in week out. The penny dropped with me weeks ago, watching the Man Utd and Liverpool and Man City midfields repeatedly boss ours this season. Reading your posts, some of you are still in denial that we are not really the best team around, our midfield is too easily bossed second half of this season to be worthy champions.
This new Man City Squad and Team are emerging from the inconsistency of gelling period – forming before storming – are going to dominate everybody for many seasons to come now. Arsenals last hope of getting a long awaited title rests on getting some sort of result next Sunday, otherwise we are years away from it, not starting next season as favourites, or season after that as favourites based on our current squad. The main lesson learned from this season, this Arsenal squad needs a clear out and years of rebuilding to be able to compete against City for a title again.
What makes you sure our players are much better than Doku, Haaland and Rodri?
There’s an outside chance of a one off cup final game in the Champions league this year, based on the lucky Atlectic win at Camp new. If we get into that one off game final against the Reds or Parisians, anything could happen.
Which manager are you bringing into Arsenal who will deliver a title for Arsenal in the next 2 or 3 seasons, with the “project” resources they will be given here? Would you like to give us the brilliant list of options?
Best comment I’ve read.
Arteta recognises a style he played all his life; defensive midfield, ball to feet play.
Its unambitious, pragmatic but will always fall short of greatness.
It slowly creeps into the DNA of the players and becomes a bad habit.
Like all bad habits; doing the safe thing your manager demmands is easy because it absolves you of any responsibility.
Bad habits are difficult to drop and we can only wean these boys of it with the arrival of a new coaching philosophy
Sebu
Can you tell me how many teams have gotten more home points than Arsenal this season?
Again, City drew with Nottingham Forest and lost to the worst Spurs team at home
It happens. Remember Bournemouth also beat us at home last season. Together with Brighton, Fulham, Villa and West Ham, they have been our thorns at home
I believe Arsenal will still win the league even after City beat Chelsea. As long as we don’t lose at the Etihad, then we will be better going to the last 4 matches afterwards
I hope Saka, Odegaard, Timber will be fit by then
For now, it’s Sporting Lisbon, and nothing else
These guys are all captains pics Moon girl. They are his chosen ones. He simply does not go in for creativity and individuality, or players making their own decisions through trial and error.Whatever he saw in Harvetz, Zubamendi, Merino and Madouke and didn’t see in Nwaneri or Smith Rowe reflect his footballing mentality. Very different from his mentors Wegner and Guardiola. Arteta’s biggest stroke of luck has been that he has had the solidity of Saliba added to the gifts of Saka ad Martinelli who have gotten him out of trouble again and again, as well as being supplemented with a generous budget with which to acquire the likes of Declan Rice.
Really??? Who bought the players, picks the team and sets up the tactics for the game, makes the substitutions??? And its not really his fault??
They need to pull one out now. Win against city and it will flip the script – give a very impressive performance in a draw or unfortunate loss and they’ll keep the hope alive. Seems really unlikely now but it’s absolutely their last chance imo – if they wilt like in the league cup final, I do think we’ll lose the league and win nothing. If I was putting money on it, I’d say that’s most likely given the way things are going, but arteta’s arsenal teams have surprised me before.
remember how many put their nose up to the league cup ?
now does it feel like it mattered?
Yeah I agree – never said otherwise
I said it at the time – we didn’t need to win the league cup, but we had to show up and at least prove they aren’t better than us. A close loss would have been been motivating, but the way we wilted under the pressure works against us and in their favour. Worst case scenario. I just disagree that it all comes down to the GK decision – we could have played really well and lost because of a GK error, but that wasn’t what happened. The outfield players were also dreadful, and that’s what gives city such an advantage over us now.
I am still optimistic about Arsenal’s title chances because even Man city will lose points. It might even be starting tomorrow with Chelsea. They also have Bournemouth and Everton to contend with. It is not as straightforward as some may think. There are going to be twists and turns. I don’t see Man city winning 8 games in a row. There will be a draw or two somewhere and perhaps even a loss.
Let’s not forget that we still have Timber, Odegaard, Calafiori, Saka and Hincapie who might all return for the remaing six games. A what a difference they would make! So, my fellow Gooners let’s not be downcast. There are still 6 games and 18 points to play for. We shall return with a bang starting with CL game against Sporting on Wednesday.
Sack him and get the new manager bounce. Even if it’s a legend like Wenger till the end of the season. Someone who will tell them to go and enjoy themselves. Mikel is a coward and he can’t win us the premier league when it’s basically been served on a platter. Played 40 odd games and stilll hasn’t worked out that Gyokores can’t hold the ball up. We have players consoling Zumbendi on the pitch with 60 mins to play. Embarrassing, weak and fragile and it all stems from one man. 1 billion spent and still can’t create a chance from open play it’s pathetic. Been outplayed almost every game since we got figured out against Wolves.
only way he is going anywhere is if we don’t qualify for Champions League. CL qualification ensures the cash comes in and I think that will leave the Kronkes satisfied .
And the way English teams are playing right now and the money available, it is top five not top four.
Despite finishing second we are getting deep runs in cups and CL and are fighting for EPL titles. If I wasn’t mired in self-pity for the collapse and absolutely can’t stand how our play has evolved over the season, I could see how a lot of other supporters would be thrilled to have our problems.
It’s just humiliation after humiliation for Arsenal fans. He has achieved nothing of note. Failed at everything he has attempted. A laughing stock for everyone and synonymous across the world of football for being spineless.
We are called BottlersFC and never taken seriously or respected by anyone. Arteta has turned this club from being a respectable club that played good football yet won nothing into joke that plays dreadful football yet still wins nothing.
I just want him and his team gone…
A couple of juicy stats just to reinforce my idea of how Artetaball doesn’t work under pressure. 1, In the last 5 years Arteta has just one win in April, YES 1 win, and what was that Sporting last week. 2, David Raya received 35, cough cough, yes 35 passes back to him today? Speaks volumes of our ideal game management. Absolutely shocking!!!!! Defend that?
Those are the stats that tell the entire sad. depressing story Reggie, unlike the meaningless numbers that Angus loves to draw out.
No wins in April for 5 years. How is that going to change? Its telling and poor. Mind some will blame, injuries, referees, too many games, too few games, anything but see that the football is flawed.
You people are just lying. And these comments just highlight how disgracefully prejudiced you are.
Arsenal record in April isn’t great. This is largely related to form, fitness and coping with challenges of playing multiple competitions.
It is not true however that Arsenal have won only one game in April during the past 5 years. Arsenal memorably beat Real Madrid last April, so any serious fan would have taken a moment to check whether that false stat could be true.
Saying the “football is flawed” is nonsense, unless you can clearly describe what Arsenal should have done. Unfortunately, this season most of Arsenal’s attacking players have struggled with form or fitness for most of the season.
Using such false stats as a basis for a narrative just demonstrates that Arsenal have some useless fans.
😂😂
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@David.
My brother, don’t worry too much about that lot. You know where they at. Been that way since 2021. They are the Anti Arteta Base (Far to the Right). To them he has not done anything for our club.
But on the other hand you don’t want to be the Overly Pro Arteta Base (Far to the Left) where you have to just make excuses first Arteta at every turn.
He has had 6 years and for these last 4 seasons he keeps showing a concerning trend of being poor in Cup competitions and a tendency to falter at the tail end of a competitive season.
If he fcks up again this season then no excuses will be tolerated. He has been given ample time, support and backing from both the Owners and overwhelmingly majority of our fanbase. He has a massive available squad this season, no more excuses.
If he fails we just have to accept and acknowledge that he doesn’t have the mental / psychological acumen to get us over the line in the EPL title race, CL and Domestic cups. It’s ridiculous.
Let’s stay balanced and try to avoid being on the Extremes (Far Right or Far Left) on this Arteta topic. Right now Arteta deserves to be pelted and criticised for his showings, failed us in both Domestic competitions back to back, now once again he is crumbling in the Title race with no pressure whatsoever.
We were 9 points and could have gone 12 point ahead, his nervous mentality is showing it’s head in the Home Straight once again. 🤦♂️
😂😂
Even when they were fit, a psttern of struggling to create goals was emerging
Reggie, you still haven’t replied to Leon debunking your lies about no wins in April.
Leon? Who is Leon? I got them off a site where Arsenal fans are pretty reliable with their post, Arsenal Rumours Banter, take a look. I took it as correct because others had agreed with it. Have you check how many league games (or Leon, whoever he is) wether we have won any domestic cup or league games in April in the last 5 years?
I would also suspect the stats for May shows we start to win games once the title race is all but over.This year will be the same.Man City will beat Chelsea today and us next weekend .Title race over are form improved as the pressure is off.We can all hope things will improve but the reality is it won’t
I will defend that.
In April 2024 alone Arsenal beat Luton 2-0; Brighton 3-0; Wolves 2-0; Chelsea 5-0 and Spurs 3-2
Get your facts right.
Thanks for that.
Some people are just too dishonest. They have had an agenda that they will keep pushing no matter what. Even making up lies in order to carry on that agenda.
Again, there are so many actual genuine critiques and objective aspects one can throw at Arteta but these individuals have never been interested in just that. They need to make up even more ridiculous strawmans and takes in order to tell themselves that they have always been right on the Arteta issue since 2021.
But hey, what is one supposed to do about it. 😊
Reggie,
Defend that, you just know that David will. 😂
Hi Derek, If it is wrong, It was carried on by me from a site mentioned above. I didn’t instigate it but carried it on in good faith. I didn’t check it out (foolishly) because its usually from a guy and a site that are pretty good. I apologise for for putting it on here if it is wrong and I know David or Leon will never forgive me 🫣😩
Reggie,
You may have made a school boy error, but don’t beat yourself up about it. We all make mistakes.
Just an example of mistakes, Mikel Arteta is pretty good at them to be fare. 😂👍
Derek if Arteta did his F*****G job, we would all be happy.🤣🤣
But I do believe it is his worse month out of all the months for wins by quite a way. Head down, hide behind the wall, the flack is coming😩😩 My original post was wrong.
I am no Arteta apologist and no fan of his tactics. I have no issue with you or anyone here but posting what was obviously nonsense doesn’t help my mood. That’s all…
Leon, it doesn’t help mine.
If we win, I’m happy for MA to stay
If we don’t, I want him to leave, but he probably will stay
Nearly 6 and a half years with 1 FA Cup to show for it, isn’t good enough. Especially with having a very good side for a few years
It will mean that MA can build a good side but can’t go to the next level.
I hope for us and MA that we win the Premier League this summer
So Stephanie, you’ll be happy to sit through that drivel for another three seasons or so just because there’s a trophy in the cabinet. Be careful what you wish for, even if we won EPL, we fans would be stuck with Arteta ball and the aging deadwood Arteta had accumulated for who knows how many seasons. The Joy.
Read it again Joe, that isn’t what was said🙂
Sorry, I didn’t see you had said even if he wins the prem. Look, if he wins the prem, it all changes. Arteta would never ever be sacked, regardless of the football, if we won the league and rightly so.
Rightly so?!!
You want another season of this dross??
I hope he wins the EPL for the great rebuilding he has done then steps down so we can have a better coach.
Joe, which “aging deadwood” has Arteta “accumulated” for “who knows how many seasons.”
The only “aging” players in our squad are Trossard (31) & Norgaard at 32, who’s yet to complete a season, and yesterday’s team featured two teenagers plus another on the bench.
We’re quite a young squad by any standards.
My biggest problem with Arteta has always been this overly cautious style he plays. I hoped that with each season of adding and strengthening the squad he would become more attacking. But no, he just keeps playing containment football when we have the players to go Toe to Toe with the other teams.
I thought that by this season he would have relaxed a bit and playing dominant football. But no, we are still playing scared / Try not to concede Everton style of football.
I don’t know if he is just too desperate to win that he thinks being overly defensive is the only way? The players look nervous all because of the way he has them set up. We don’t take any risks, we would rather play containment football and Draw than take any risk to win a game.
It’s so frustrating.
How much of this is actually true? What players do Arsenal have that they can go toe to toe with every opponent playing 2 games a week?
I have pointed out previously that Arsenal have struggled with the form and fitness of many players throughout the season.
Arsenal’s squad is no larger than many other PL squads yet people keep talking about a “massive squad”. Yet another factoid.
How do you go about playing this attacking football that you crave when so many of the creative and attacking players have struggled with fitness, injuries and form for much of the season?
It wouldn’t matter wether another billion pound was thrown at this squad, some would always blame injuries over substance. Poor excuse and not true.
You haven’t actually addressed anything I have stated.
Which one is not true?
Yes I did, the injury excuse. We are the only team in the prem that could play two separate teams that could survive in the prem. Our squad is massive and strong in depth.
Can you list these two teams? Are you suggesting that Arsenal do not have injuries?
Do Arsenal have a bigger squad than most other PL teams?
injuries were not responsible for that performance
more then a strong enough 11
Arsenal have been one of the most injury hit teams amongst PL teams.
Arsenal have gone deeper in more competitions than most other PL teams
This all makes managing the playing schedule more complicated especially when some players may be out of form or not back up to full fitness.
Of course they don’t have a bigger squad David, everyone has to name 25 players I believe?
It’s how many injuries are sustained and how good the said squad is.
The last two seasons were horrendous regarding our injury problems and this season is not much better…..
but it’s how MA used his players that was the problem Saturday.
Unfortunately, far too many people are looking to blame or point fingers based on inaccuracies or misinformation.
You don’t have to name 25 players. Arsenal haven’t. This isn’t unique but it is dishonest for people to keep claiming that Arsenal have a “massive” squad.
Arsenal are one of the most injury hit teams in the PL. This will clearly take its toll over the course of a season especially when some of your best players are often sidelined.
It’s overly simplistic to just blame Arteta even if he does have to take some responsibility for the performance.
but did you say that when people were praising how strong the squad was
First 11 Raya, timber, saliba, Gabriel Calafiori, rice, Zubimendi, saka, eze, trossard Gyokores.
Second 11 Kepa White, Mosquera, hincapie, MLS, Norgard, Haverz, Odergaard, Madueke, Martinelli, Jesus.
Not including Dowman and Merino.
And we still hear people say our squad is thin. Rediculous!!!!!!
I think the second 11 could survive in the prem. With the right manager.
You do realize that many of those players have had injuries this season.
From your first 11 both Timber and Saka are out. From your second Hincapie and Odegaard are out.
Many of the other players have been injured or have had fitness problems for most of the season.
You aren’t going to be able to play either of these teams for the full season.
Still blaming injuries like it’s something exclusive to Arsenal, David?
City were without their first choice center backs for the League Cup final. Gvardiol (broken leg), Ruben Dias (hamstring), Guéhi (cup-tied). They also started, for god knows why, their second choice keeper who has even less experience than Kepa. Yet they dominated us for nearly 60 mins.
It must have been so easy for the City fans to write off their season due to injuries and they should have, but somehow they found their way back and we are the ones in a pickle
Every team has injuries!!!!!!!! We have a bigger squad to chose from to get round it.
Survival in the premier league is different from winning it. The second 11 didn’t look too good against Mansfield. It is definitely better/stronger than last year as I doubt we’d have been as competitive for as long as we have been this season considering how difficult it has been to put out the favoured 11.
Perhaps when we look back over the last year, it might have been better to have really used the second string for the Carabao Cup and FACup to rest players. It’s all fine and dandy to get to the final but if the main prize slips away due to fatigue and recurring injuries then is it worth it? For some, going for gold or we can’t be sniffy about the domestic cups is important because nothing has been won since 2020. We can’t be choosy. Based on what has happened so far, being in 4 competitions for so long has been our undoing with so many out.
So our massive squad isn’t so massive with so many players out or rusty
So surprised people still think the squad is responsible for how play.
Reality Check: the coach picks the team and decides the style of play.
The players themselves cannot decide to play a slow bland style of football. One that offers almost nothing attacking wise and instead prioritizes caution and safe plays.
This league is brutal.
You aren’t going to win anything if you aren’t ready to attack and take risks.
Did I say they were Twinlights.?
SueP, it’s amazing how many of these trolls only turn up when we’re on a poor run.
I’m even more amazed at your self-control when they do.😏.
Point taken Reggie still, a title is clearly something to brag about but this jubilation just lasts the off season and come August it’s a clean slate and everything is history. I don’t want to see this type of football repeated ad infinitum. Also worry that Arteta’s recruiting policy is warped. More of the same type of players, no thrust or energy. And who will want to take. Jesus, Zubamendi Trossard. Merino Harvetz, Norgaard Califiori, Odegaard. outside of Italian clubs ? Slow injury racked players with a one or two season used by date. Worse case scenario I see stagnation rather than a manager who can reinvent himself.
I don’t see how Mikel can sign a new contract if he blows these trophies. Fans will turn against him this season if he can’t get this team across the finish line
RSH Mikel Arteta is a specialist in failure hes convinced the majority of a fan base what he’s doing is nothing short of miraculous, he’s also probably the biggest ego in football even ahead of Ronaldo unbelievably! This man has no shame and will have no problem signing a new contract making him probably the highest paid manager in the world.
Well, I certainly think that being top of the PL and CL, then reaching the quarter finals of said CL and FA Cup, along with the final of the Carabo cup, registering only six defeats in all competitions is not something to be sneezed at.
I’m waiting till the end of the season before casting my vote and that will probably put me in the “Arteta cult” camp.
I thought that kind of childish talk ended when AW left the club, but no,, Arsenal fans always need to tear each other apart it seems.
By the way, it seems Kepa has the only ego that needs to be stroked!!
Ken you can throw out all these stats but it means nothing! This manager cannot get over the line and more to the point his football is diabolical! All the gimmicks ie lightbulbs, pens, pick pockets, dog named win (which we don’t) and PR only for us to win sod all again and get embarrassed every single season, I’m just totally fed up with it. With all due respect Ken if you’re happy with just challenging and winning nothing and watching terrible football fair play to you but I believe Arsenal are a big club with plenty of resources for a competent manager to win trophies something Arteta hasn’t managed to do in 6 years. How many more years, excuses and money does he need to win something? And yeah it’s still possible we could win the PL although unlikely now and don’t believe we’ll win the champions league either. I believe he’s done a good job getting us competitive again but now is the time we need to get someone to take us to the next level.
I’m not throwing stats at you, I’m stating where we are factually at this stage of the season.
Your the one throwing stats, by saying we haven’t won anything in five years, without going into details as to why.
We are currently waiting the outcome of city’s 115 plus charges, while we now know that Chelsea cheated their way to all their trophies.
Everton and Forest have both been deducted points, yet it seems city115 are untouchable.
You also fail to recognise the horrendous injuries we had the last two seasons and it’s happening again, as seen on Saturday, with Timber, Califiori, Hancapie, Odegaard and Saka show.
Of course I’m not content to watch the kind of shite I sat through against Bournemouth and Arteta, along with the players, deserve all the criticism they are receiving.
If Mikel ends the season trophy less once again, that’s when we should be looking at the situation and I’m 100% opposed to him getting a new contract, with obscene money, until the season ends.
Yes, we’re a big club, one of the biggest in the world, but that doesn’t mean we are ensured success and money doesn’t buy it either.
As I said, I’ll be supporting MA and the players up and until the end of the season… what happens then is in the lap of the gods,especially as I think we’ll lose on Wednesday, but come away from the Etihad with a result.
you said the same thing last season
then in October your say how do you know Dan we can’t win …..
then next season your say it’s okay this isn’t to be sniffed at
it’s a loop
Ken1945,
Just an observation. I’m not having a go here by the way. But over say the last month or so, I’ve read posts from you reminding us that how many games we’ve lost this season. And I agree with you.
But here’s the worrying trend, first you said we’ve only lost three, then it was four, then it was five. And now it is six. The last three are particularly worrying, this is because we’re now at the business end of the season. And those recent three losses have become magnified.
As I said earlier, this is in no way a pop at you. Just an observation regarding our losses. 👍
A good show on Wednesday, and you’ll all be happy little Gooners again, until Sunday, when the depression will set in, until……
🤣👍Jax
Jax now see my point about the goal difference
until what ?
there are equally fans who point things out and you don’t listen lol.
Just seen this on PaddyPower……..we can still do the quadruple……… bottle 4 competitions that is 😂
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😂😂😂 uuuu la! La!
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PaddyPower has been clowning us since we moved into the EMIRATES. 😂
And Gyökeres saying the pitch was too dry 🙄,another reason right here is why rival fans mock us so much
What a joke again. Arteta has to go if he fails to win the EPL Title this season. He can’t be crumbling the team every season at the end.
I just can’t believe how poor. And it’s Arteta that makes it tough for the players to get over the line. He just seems to be so cautious for no reason. He forces the players to be very nerves by not demanding them to be too cautious. We don’t take the incentive to impose ourself on a game, we just sit in there inviting and soaking pressure when we could be more proactive.
If he bottles this Title then it will be the most embarrassing bottle job as compared to the last three previous ones.
If he embarrasses us at the tail end of yet another season then we have got to thank him for all his effort in getting us up here and competing, then part ways amicably. Can’t continue having the same weak mentality when the pressure to get over the line ramps up. The league has been so poor and we are still fumbling.
I am pisssed.
What a joke. 🤦♂️
We need @Gunsmoke to remind us all of how Arteta is a tactical genius.
GB,
Don’t forget, Arsenal are also a juggernaut. Apparently, their starting to suffer some punctures to their tire’s.
Two completely down, and two slow puncture’s. 🤦♂️😂
Despite of the poor tactics employed right now by Arsenal,and the unimpressive performances..but somehow it feels as if there is trophy meant to be won by Arsenal FC, somewhere somehow…time will tell us which one but ,I am sure man city can never capitalise 100% on this Arsenal failures,they will stumble somewhere as well!!
Remember when Arteta used to start Havertz even he was poor. Now add Zubimendi or Gyokeres. Does he want to prove one day that they’ll come good? He’s not ruthless at all. Arsenal is not Arteta’s family affair. He’s too stubborn when comes to team selection. Even tactics are irrelevant when you don’t have proper players for the plan.
Just started to what the City game .They are playing with so much confidence. City will win easily.
nah mate
Chelsea doing okay
Well 0-0 @ HT you never know.
Oh well that hope has just gone.We all have to accept the title is over otherwise the hope will just eat at you
If we’d done our job yesterday we wouldn’t have to worry about this game!
I have almost accepted we will end up 0 points so then it comes down to can we lose next week and resend or will the seaon fade out ?
Once the title is gone we will start to play again.I do however think we have a chance in the Champions league
As we always do. You have more faith than me!
Honestly I think we’re done, Dan. Another season fizzles out disappointingly and we only have ourselves to blame
I told you Dan it would be an easy Man City win and next week it could be embarrassing.
I have a feeling it will be men against boys again
Sue,
I’m already getting things ready behind my sofa for the weekend. I’ve got my snacks and drinks ready, a nice comfy pillow. But unfortunately with it now being squeaky bum time, I won’t be sitting comfortably. 😂🤣👍
Don’t worry Derek, Arteta will be getting his, how not to lose tactics sorted and worked on all week.
With his pen? 🤭
🤣🤣 I don’t even think I can stomach watching it, Derek. I think it’ll be like going to Anfield back in the day for the annual mauling ☹️
Save yourselef the embarassment. Seriously. I’m 100% convinced Arteta is beign Payed by City to keep failing us. I’ve never seen a more negative coach at Arsenal, never. Especially in a title race. City are winning the title EASILY. They are laughing at us.
The lesson here is about masochism. Cause watching this football club is just that, masochism. And I will be smart and not ruin anymore weekends with this crap. Never again. It’s no longer shame on Arteta, it’s the people who put their heart and soul because they actually care about a club managed by a rich spoiled Spainard with a perfect wife, a perfect salary and 0 ambition, apart from helping his mate Pep.
Of course they’re laughing at us and why wouldn’t they. It’s the same every season. Their fans with their Arsenal bottles and singing “2nd place again” it’s embarrassing and as I’ve said before we’ll never live this down!
wait for the trophies are not everything
👍 and all the other excuses
Sue,
You’re not really making me feel any better here. 🤣😂😉
I’m sorry Derek 😅🤣
Sue,
I forgive you, have a good evening. I’m off. 😉
You too, Derek. Stay away from Sky Sports 👍😉
There was never ever any hope of Chelsea doing anything today. The only hope we have is that the players disregard whatever Arteta says next Sunday and grow some bollocks and play like professional footballers who earn a fortune and decide to respect themselves the club and the fans. Game over in my opinion
We like to dream that would happen
Agent Mik has done it! City are winning a domestic treble at his expense again. This football club is finished, but the sad thing is I knew it and I still fell for the stupid trap of hope. There was NEVER anything to suggest we would win, NEVER. God I hate Arteta I’ll say it now. Let’s just sack him tonight for the better of our football club.
City 3 – Arsenal 0, better brace for that result already
The rot started when he put Kepa in goal.Being nice doesn’t win you trophies
But Raya was in goal yesterday and it made no difference? Its a lot lot more than that.
No but the error Kepa made in the final caused the defeat and the resulting disappointment of another loosing another final.This I feel has been very damaging and carried forward into subsequent games.If we had won that cup the situation could have been completely different as confidence would have been through the roof rather than on the floor.The question now is can Arteta do a George Graham and get a result at Man City that we aren’t expecting
We played a really good match in Germany, no hangover there. Yesterday was all down to tactics. And playing Zubimendi and Haverz. What happened yesterday happens every year. Nothing at all to do with the cups. Artetas record in cups is awful, regardless.
And when he played Raya in cups?
Highbury 44, so, of we take out Kepa’s mistake, do you think we would have won the final and was every other player playing at their full potential?
I agree with your observation regarding the outcome.
At the point of the error Man city didn’t create a great deal,so i think it could have been a much closer game.
Really? From the start of the second half, they completely over run us.
I agree
you can’t just take out his mistake , it’s too vital
that’s like saying next Sunday if a keeper does that with the score 0-0 it won’t be important
Nobody said it wasn’t important – just asking Highbury 44 if he was satisfied with the performances of the other players.
Of course, if we added Gyokeres and Havertz missed chances as goals, that would have been important moments.
And Arteta is no way George Graham.
well apparently he’s tatically superior to Arsene Wenger
no mate apparently he didn’t
some fans think he watched in training and went ….he’s better then Raya lol
No mate, what he said was Kepa had got us to the final, showed his commitment and was selected, along with every other player, on merit.
I haven’t read anywhere that it’s been said Kepa is better than Raya by Arteta or any fan – twisting the words once again peeps 😁
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s your ego that needs to be stroked, because you never admit to being wrong, even when it’s proven you are lol
my conclusion of you mate is you have a control issue lol
so don’t worry
Don’t be so controlling then Dan!!
How many fans actually said Arteta was tactically superior to Wenger and how many fans said we’d win the quadruple Dan?
no mate I have made a decision not to answer any questions from you as you just ask the same question over and over and then your little sheep goes ….good one Ken lol
type into the search bar though and your find people saying it or asking why not , how do you know we can’t win all 4 ?
nah mate
made a decision not to answer as you just keep asking the same question over and over lol
if you type things into the search engine though your find your examples
as an example you asked me this very question on December 8th lol
you agreed having seen these quotes and then changed the question to having also seen negative comments despite our 19 match unbeaten run
then when I sent you more examples you said well some supporters like to be positive and that I don’t have the right balance
so I’m not answering the same question in April lol
Let me stroke your ego Dan, come on and don’t be shy.
How many fans said we would win the quadruple?
How many fans said Arteta was tactically superior to Wenger?
As I haven’t a clue what a search engine is and you do, just give out the two numbers, for instance 5 and 5 or 500 and 500.
My guess is it’s nearer the former than the latter, so prove me wrong.
Of course, as you know, I didn’t think either was correct or did I?
we had this discussion before so I’m not having it again and you agreed lol
top of page , near Just arsenal logo there is a search icon ( magnifying glass) so for example type in why can’t Arsenal win all 4 and your get articles saying it
See the way City plays the game . There two new recruitments have become key players.Even in the midst of injury we loaned one of our creative players and that tells our lack of ambition.Match against Man city will be a title decider. If we can hold them, we have a chance. Again I wonder why Arteta and players adopted a cautious approach against a mid table team yesterday in our home match.
It should have been all out attack from the start, blazing into them but that is not Artetas way.
No, Artetas cautious restrictive football is the problem. Tactically he only knows one way to play and doesn’t take the initiative or trust to attack with speed. Half this team look confused when going forward. Not knowing to where to go.
This is not true.
Arteta is one of the more tactically flexible amongst top level managers in world football.
Keep telling yourself that. He’s so tactically flexible that he can’t get his team to attack and score properly. You are like someone advocating that Stevie Wonder has the best eyesight amongst musicians lol
He has demonstrated his tactically flexibility in many games this season. That does not mean that he is infallible or that his ideas will always work.
Despite recent setbacks Arsenal have still won the majority of games they have played this season.
I’m not sure what the Stevie Wonder analogy is supposed to mean.
He has also not demonstrated his tactically flexibility in many games this season. The only constant this season has been lackluster attacking football. Tell me how flexible is that
Hahahaha
And better tactically than Wenger .
Oh and as surpassed pep 😂
oh you saw it too lol
So do you disagree with my actual point? Or you just gang up to mock someone who has a particular opinion?
no I was refering mate to others who now claim that certain things were never said
if your asking for my opinion on your comments?
I think a fan can support a team how they wish
you think that you need to say everything is okay no matter what .
I truly think Arsenal could lose every game from now till end of season and you have a excuse
I find that toxic and it plays Into the Koronke’s hands
I always said that Arteta is a good manager , has made us hard to beat , made us defensively very good but the great managers get over the line.
Get over the line and he’s done a great job but you want it both ways
Here you are lying. I have never said or suggested that everything is Ok.
I simply do not go overboard with negativity every time Arsenal lose or drop points.
This is why I find some of you rather dishonourable. You make claims about things that others haven’t actually said and then say they are toxic.
How is it toxic to say that Arsenal have had injuries this season which have affected performances? Is it toxic to recognise that Arteta has demonstrated tactically flexibility?
Or is it only acceptable to call the manager a coward or consistently consider him incompetent?
let me clarify
you have not literally said everything is okay , I’m going off most of your comments that either make excuses or get sensitive when others are critical
it’s not toxic to say we have had injuries , it’s toxic though to try and make out that would be a reason not to win title
if you had said before the game or last week you think we will struggle to win title because of injuries then cool but you waited till a defeat
where the likes of myself have always said City have players who know how to get over the line and play with a smile on their face while we don’t ( and I get a hard time for it )
and of course anyone who calls him a coward I disagree with
my stance is whatever happens , unless he walks he will be our manager next season
I was pointing out out the fact you said Arteta was a better tactician than Wenger and he had surpassed pep .
Best young manager in world football ,we were the best team in the whole of Europe last season ,the list can go on and on .
I am not really interested in discussing with bigots and bullies.
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David, your not the first who thinks he’s being bullied here on JA!!
Take it with a pinch of salt, fight your corner and carry on typing out your point of view.
Having said all that, if you actually said Arteta is better tactician than Wenger, I really can’t support you, but you don’t need my help anyway.
If people aren’t arguing with you, it means that, for whatever reason, they are reading what you think.
If people ARE arguing with you!!
He’s not been bullied what so ever ,it’s just a defensive mechanism because of the stupid sh1t he writes .
You must have seen how he talks to other fans on here by now ,and the names he calls them ,worst one on JA .
Can’t stand people that act like he does ,mind you there’s a few more on here as well not just him .
That city fan pretending to drink from an Arsenal fizzy bottle! Even they know we’re going to bottle it 😡
I’m sure our fans will have plenty of bottles to return the compliment if we draw or beat them Gunner Ray.
I just listened to a city115 fan saying that he wants the officials to referee the match on a level playing field!!
The irony of a city115 fan asking for that is absolutely hilarious 😂
Manchester City just gave Arsenal a masterclass in how to go out and win a game. No nerves no nothing, just full on focus.
Yes, I’m sure nerves are an issue but we’re just not creative. We have creative players but don’t create. Playing with the handbrake on. That has to come from the manager. Artetas lack of tactical know how is one of our main issues. Pep is the master and Arteta is the one who still has much to learn. Ultimately, that is probably why we will bottle it again. He’s punching above his weight and this is his best. I hope he and the team prove me wrong..
…and there goes half the goal difference.
First, they have been over intensified for the last 3 years.
6
If we win 0 trophies
Off with their heads, all.
The rot starts at the top.
We need a new: sporting director, coach, recruitment, contract negotiators, data analysts, sports medicine and physical therapists, training analysts, and academy personnel that was as good as what walked out the door.
We were moving in the right direction, that path has clearly been altered.
And no, I will not accept poor futbol for outcomes, we have seen it for the last 6 years.
These are not mutually exclusive events.
We can have both.
However, if it remains the status quo, I will just be a casual observer as the time investment does not work itself out.
Oh, and if $h*Ty do win League and whatever else, and the FA does fa to them after the season is over that just cements it for me.
The more I think of the next weekend game, the more I keep fantasizing with ifs and buts. …. Can we use the mocking to spur us to the three points? Should I really trust this team to show up and be counted, ? Why am I still thinking that might, just might win it in the end and finally pay back the trolls in kind. Forget it just a bad dream😴💭
With how we rolled over for them in the cup final and Cherki showboating with his kick-ups, their fans drinking out of Arsenal bottles earlier and singing 2nd place again. If this doesn’t motivate the players on Sunday then nothing will!
that’s the saddest part
if we knew there will be a response next weekend I wouldn’t mind
it’s this fear we might just not even show up at the Ethiad
at this time of the year we go missing while City deal with pressure while smiling .
Look at today .
0-0 HT , 45 mins to keep title race in own hands and they went ….no problem
compare that to us
There’s us really trying for the last couple of minutes after spending the rest of the game passing sideways and backwards! We’ll be a joke forevermore if we come away from there being absolutely slaughtered. All that time spent at the top will have counted for nothing just like finishing top of the CL league phase. And people think we have a chance in the CL!!!! 😱😵💫
I will say ( just to a tad positive) even if they beat us I think they have the tougher run In.
it’s just if we lost at the Ethiad could we shake it off and go again ?
I think City will deal with it, Dan, it’s what they do.
No, I think we’ll be resigned to the fact that it’s City’s title then and will only play decently when the pressure’s off – it’s what we do!
Absolutely sue, may go better and score 6 goals. How cool that will be! And I know there will be so many city bottles away end we might need to make good of them and even better stay ‘humble’
Too right, Kenya! I’m nervous already 🤣🤣
If we don’t win the PL Arteta should pay the ultimate price. Knowing the opportunity we had yesterday how could he fail to manage the win? There was no freakish circumstances, just a failure to execute a home advantage and open up a 12 point gap.
he will only leave if he wants too
owners will want him to stay no matter what
I don’t disagree, but it doesn’t change my opinion. I am generally pro Arteta, but l cannot back him blindly.
Well Dan according to his supporters he’s one of the best managers in the game and every top side in Europe will be lining up for his signature the moment he leaves, so hopefully he does the honourable thing and packs his bags, it’s not like he’ll be short on options and luckily his fan base can go watch him play haram ball somewhere else.
He’s one of the best managers at Kroenke’s Arsenal. More a successful salesman at convincing the Kroenkes to give him the luxury of time and funds than a great manager.
I don’t think he would be able to survive at a club without a chequebook like Bournemouth or one like Real Madrid that demands quick success. He’s also not going to make it at clubs with a chequebook like Chelsea and Man Utd who are just not very patient with managers.
Only here at Arsenal are we going to let him stay on for a decade or two. As long as he stays here, there is little chance of him being found out as a manager lacking in tactical acumen and squad management
Always thought the B teams. Brentford. Brighton and Bournemouth would not be easy but come away from those games with only two lucky points has been a failure of nerve and mentality. No excuses for the man responsible for preparing the game plan and motivating his players to get over the line.
Q: Are Arsenal’s best 11 be ‘Bottlers’?
Raya: No he can be counted amongst the best keepers in EPL. Serial Golden Glove winner.
Timber: Certainly not, arguably the best at R/B in the EPL.
GM & WS: C/B pair ARE the best hands down.
Calafiori: Bottler? No evidence of it; Unfair to tag him such; Its injuries that are his issue.
Hincapie: Bottler? Unfair to tag; player arrived with proven Invincible credentials. Surviving the EPL is his biggest challenge.
Zubimendi: How could he have foreseen having to play games without his creative midfielders ~
*ESP credentials: Euro 2024 impact player:
“When Rodri was substituted at half-time in the Euro 2024 final against England, many believed the Three Lions had the upper hand going into the second half. Rodri’s replacement was Zubimendi, who turned the tide in Spain’s favour.” Ends quote.
Rice: Its shameful to even entertain the idea for which reason i can instantly dismiss it. Many of our fans see he has captaincy credentials, yeah?
Merino ~ Injured/No ~ stands up and delivers whenever called upon to do so. level head type who is sorely missed imo. Helps brings out the best in MZ and brings something of the X-factor to our attack.
Eze: Strong credentials now carving out a ‘new’ future with his boyhood idols: Unfair to tag him a bottler in this his introductory season.
Odegaad Capt: Bottler? I think not: seems he is highly regarded by E. Haaland; Status Injured; His best self has long been missing; Fans losing patience (quickly). Was our best creative option.
Martinelli: BRA international. Iv not seen any BRA that merit the ‘B’ tag. Young player needs a ‘new’ challenger to bring out his best at L/W. Likely to be involved with further CL and/or domestic Lg progress. Bottler? not in my books.
Trossard: BEL International, was deadly on goal in seasons gone, seems he lost that consistency; Bottler? No: He needs a club that will afford him some more minutes.
B. Saka: a Bottler? ~ certainly not. Brave as they come: No one can point the finger and accuse him of it.
VG14: Bottler? Unfair Tag: 18 goals already.
Most likely to surprise us all.
Havertz: Bottler? Unfair tag, so its another No. Has scored at the highest level. Coming back from a big injury too. The ones who see fit to berate him (today) are the same ones singing nom-min-nom-in-nah-hay hay (tomorrow).
Arteta: Bottler? In many fans eyes he lacks the tactical awareness necessary and isn’t The Guy to bring success. I prefer to see how this season unfolds. Knowing football at its highest level is about making the best use of those ‘moments’ im NOT convinced that our best ‘moments’ are behind us.
So, it’s all the fault of those teams and bad managers including Wolves, who didn’t want to lose against big strong brave Arsenal?
Joe Schettino
[Respectfully]
I’m not establishing fault or apportion blame here. Neither am I sayin we deserve praise. What I am saying is we are still in with a shot at salvaging something ‘Good’ from our season. Offensively are we as dangerous as citeh115, LFC, Bayern or PSG? No. Are we better defensively, YES.
Its this ‘defensive approach’ to games that we often rely on… and so… we shall see.
Overly length and unnecessary analysis when the clearest evidence of us bottling is that we have lost the league from a leading position with a handful of games for 2 seasons already. A third if we don’t turn this season around.
You can go on analyzing it on an individual level right down to the kit man and it doesn’t change the history that we bottled it twice with one more in the making if we don’t salvage it
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Last I looked we’ve since added ‘new’ players that have bottled nothing + the season has not ended.
Believe it (or not, in your case) this team will dig deep.
It doesn’t work that way mate. If your theory about the ‘new’ players holds true, you might as well say that the ‘new’ players that City signed, Semenyo and Guéhi, have never won anything before and not even qualified for the Champions League, so by your analogy, they are not winners and will not win anything this season. You see how your ‘new’ players theory is seriously flawed.
And mind you, I truly believe that we would win the league this season, so much so that I uncharacteristically said mid season that the league is ours. Talk about having egg on my face if Arteta and the lads don’t dig deep. Anyway you can just go on assuming that anyone who disagrees with you don’t believe in Arsenal
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Your analogy has no relevance whatsoever to my point. Basically iv pointed out that the New players cannot be accused of being ‘bottlers?’ in simple they have not been with us long enough for you to berate them; You’re responding with that analogy about Semenyo & Guehi not being winners is irrelevant; WHY? because i have not berated or criticized these players, its you that’s here boldly convincing us all (before the season conclusion) that they won’t achieve anything.
You argued what transpired “…2 Seasons ago..” and taking that as the measure of ‘new’ arsenal players that weren’t even with us 2 Seasons ago – i have to say the your picture you painted did you no favors and made no sense.
Read it again, you’ve outlined enough to answer questions about your own belief; What i did is expressed my belief that this team will “.dig deep.”
Since when have I said that we will not achieve anything? Saying that we are bottling it again if we don’t turn things around and saying we are bottling it regardless is two very different things. You seem to have a comprehension problem.
It’s funny that you can argue that new players are not bottlers but can’t see vice versa that new City players are not winners. It suggests that you can’t get your mind around the reasoning you use.
Never mind. Think I made the mistake of trying to point out the other side of an argument with someone who seem to see things only in one way. Please forget that I even engaged you. It’s not worth the time
‘Sushi’ sounds the name of a drag queen to me. For which reason i rather let you be on your way;
and if they were a drag queen ?
Dan, et al
Who sang “it takes every kind of people to make what life’s about…yeah” Robert Palmer/ Real talk.
but your not promoting diversity, your doing the opposite.
your saying just in case your a drag queen I’m not going to engage
waal2waal, I think it’s you who should be “on your way.” Homophobic insults are barred on Just Arsenal.
I could sense from his reply that there’s something off about him. Turns out he’s one of those who goes into personal insult and name calling mode the moment he can’t stand a disagreement
Sushi, let’s hope ADMIN sees these comments and takes some positive action.
Real classy
This team has got this far by winning their games. Why should Arteta watch all his work go through the window in the last eight games? Why doesn’t he start with his strongest players and replace them later if he is not sure of their fitness? I don’t believe that Man city has a better squad than ours? That being the case, why should we be scared of so-called big teams? Why should a team like Crystal Palace stand up to Man city and we fail to do the same? This is ridiculous! It means something is not right. Can we, therefore, determine to put right what has been wrong? The only way we can do this is by taking Man city head on next Sunday.
It’s the manager who’s scared that’s why! other managers will actually have a go but not this manager it’s safety first, bore the life out of the opposition then maybe just maybe we might fluke a goal from a set piece it was evident from day 1 at Old Trafford how this manager was going to play get in front and drop deep let the opposition try break us down! It was always going to catch him up eventually.
Kev
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Arteta is ‘scared’ its with good reason. We are not the biggest or best club in the league (yet) and to date we do not attract the elite attack minded player. Very often the best of the best go everywhere else but NOT to us directly. They opt for Lfc, go to both Manchester clubs, go to Spain or else they go to Bayern Munich.
Knowing this is true why would Arteta appease YOU by persisting with a champagne football attack against sides with better Champagne at their disposal? To do that would be suicidal and at to further ruin. Liverpool also opted to defend when eventually faced with PSGs more potent champagne game.
The football you outlined [here] Kev brought us to where we are sat. Its a stretch, at times relies on that fluke and defending for deer life; but it could be the ONLY way we scrap our way to the EPL title we ALL want.
The answer to your question is simple. Arteta is why. He knows he is inferior to his buddy and master is n Man city. The thought of facing him scares him.
Secondly, I’m inclined to believe that his allegiance is with him. Imagine Raya receiving more passes than VG14 in a must win match that would give us 12 points advantage over his master team. We all are witness to how it went. That man doesn’t need any support anymore from anybody and the fans should start showing him their displeasure.
They can’t also come online to vent their anger. How could they seat throughout that diabolical performance three times in the last four matches. The club, the fans and the ex players are making comfortable for him. Like many here and everywhere had said the football we play is atrocious, cowardly and unsustainable. If the fact that he had lost the league from the position of Winning twice cannot motivate him to get this one then he doesn’t deserve our support
So you think all those lucky enough to be at the Emirates, were sitting there clapping and applauding him and the players then Adiva?
That couldn’t be further from the truth, as the anger grew with every back pass that occurred.
I’ve noticed that, for the last few games, the “We’ve got super Mik Arteta” hasn’t been sung by the fans.
the defensive approach Arteta has indicates simply he does want to loose and he is ok with draws .
Anyone who listens to him understands he has repeatedly said “if you can’t win it don’t loose it”
Only Mourinha has won a title in the EPL era playing a defensive style but even in that case he had better strikers than Arsenal today to at least get him a goal.
Another defensive mastermind Simeone only has won a title with Atleti and he has only the last 2-3 years pushed to add more quality up front.
In order to win titles you must be able to put away mid table teams with ease like PSG and Bayern do in the leagues respectively.
We have lost the title the last 3 years because of draws or losses to Brighton/WH/Fulham/ etc.
Could anyone have a bad game ? yes but no at the frequency Artetas team is doing this.
How many chances we had this year to pull away from City and have this wrapped up ? Plenty.
He played conservative football and we paid for it.
He has done well to get us here by having a spine which we did not have before but he is able to put us past this and two main reasons for this:
1. Too defensive
2.Cant make his players better
I would add recruiting is subject but I cam not sure he is alone on that or directors should have some blame
The difference why City will win the title is Cherki Semenyo and Guehi.
Pep saw the puzzle added the pieces and now the finished article looks a lot better than us .
For all the control Arteta wants Bournemouth had more possession than us and when is the last time we dominated a Chelsea team the way City did today?
Thought we would be able to put the league to bed early like Liverpool did last season, given the frailties of our rivals.
The football is hardly attractive, but most fans put up with it when we often managed to grind out a win from set pieces. Yet somehow along the way, plan B (set pieces) became our more likely way to score than plan A.
Eventually when plan B dried up, we are caught with our pants down. To have that at the tail end of the season is the recipe for the current capitulation. Sad really
Just going back to headline reading, Arsenal needs to improve their intensity and focus. I think Arsenal’s manager shout relax and slow down on intensity, there is already too much of that, but definitely focus and fun factors should be encouraged.