TalkSport was never the station I would listen to for my football content.
The channel saw the rise of social media and started uploading clips of its shows onto YouTube.
TalkSport is no different to any other business. The priority is to make as much money as possible. They cannot do that without views and engagement.
Yet there is a skill in ensuring that your presenters are not looking desperate. Done properly, you can create clickbait without being transparent.
Where is the professional pride in gaining subscribers based on the quality and knowledge of the discussion?
Building an Audience Without Cheap Tricks
The Overlap shows it can be done.
Wayne Rooney’s point of view is not based on financial gain. Gary Neville has enough projects where he is not seeking attention, and Roy Keane does not need to promote himself.
Football is the UK national sport; it should be easy to get supporters invested without cheap tricks.
Alan Pardew cannot hide his glee that, at 64, he has found a way to stay relevant with his recent quote. He is smart enough to know that if Arsenal lift the title, that line gives him a few more paydays.
None of his peers, to his face, pointed out the irony that, as a manager, he hardly set up his teams to play free-flowing.
John Obi Mikel’s attempts to promote his podcast have worked, which he will argue is his job. It is almost cringeworthy how obvious everyone’s motives are. An ex-player accusing the Gunners of cheating and using illegal tactics was invited onto TalkSport to repeat himself. At no point was the former midfielder challenged because the arrangement was that his appearance would increase his subs while he was offering free material for TalkSport to gain views.
Professional Standards and Media Responsibility
You know a line has been crossed when others in the profession are now sticking up for the league leaders, but no one, to Obi Mikel’s face, reminded them of the ethos Chelsea once had. They waited for him to be away from the studio so they could squeeze more life out of the subject.
The irony that some at TalkSport question Arsenal’s principles!
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I don’t listen to talk shite. Never will.
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Do you not use their commentaries if you are unable to watch a game?
Yes I do too SueP, because they actually commentate on the game and you can see the game in your head, rather than chatting about other unrelated stuff, unlike the very poor BBC commentators. I will always listen to TalkSport commentaries as well as White and Jordon when I get the chance.
I can’t remember the last time I listened to a match Sue but when I did it was on Arsenal player.
Amen! Most mainstream medias have hugely biased pundits who dislike Arsenal, but talksport are the actual worst! Never listen to them…
O’Hara crying about Tottenham can be a decent laugh though.
So you do listen… sometimes 😁
😂😂😂
Touche SueP. I’m actually enjoying the rivals crying. Means we’re doing something right.
Yes indeedy, Konstantin.
They crossed a line decades ago
Many of the talking points on Talksport have been repeated by many Arsenal fans including some who frequent this site. Even in the past week we have had Arsenal fans castigating Arsenal players. A bona fide penalty was re-imagined as cheating.
When we drew a game recently the backlash was so bad that even Dan here had to write an article to try and tone down the negative rhetoric.
So when so-called Arsenal fans are implying that the club is substandard and employing dubious tactics why are people surprised that the likes of Obi have emerged.
It’s also worth noting that there are programmes on Talksports where there is more balanced analysis.
😂
David,
Unlike you, there are fans who call out things they don’t agree with.
You give me the impression that even if we had 3 players sent off for violent conduct, you’d still try to find a way to blame the opposition.🤦♂️
Unless they were fighting each other, Derek🤣.
David is a bit contrary, but he writes so well, and always with excellent grammar & correct spelling. Is it any surprise that he’s trolled so often?
You have a very dry turn of phrase
😏
Wow David, go to the bloody doctors, you are ill !!!!!!!
The troll doctors.
Instead of these misrepresentations and insinuations why don’t you people actually dispute anything that I have stated.
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😂
David,
Its not worth disputing anything you state, because you make up you’re own narratives anyway.
100% agree. You (david) just slag eveyone off instead of having an opinion. Sad!!!!!
I said earlier l, one of the worst posters on this site. Super troll.
They can’t dispute facts David.
They !!!!! 😂 oh dear
Give it a rest HD
Davids a simp pure and simple ,surely your not one as well ?????
Yes Dk, they. As soon as David makes a post, Reggie and Derek are on to him. They don’t come back with a counter argument, they just slag him off.
Along with DK you should add HD.
I certainly don’t agree with most of what David says, but the ganging up on him is becoming quite predictable and nasty.
A lot like Talks**t and The Arsenal in fact,as I try to keep to the the article.
Not along with me at all Ken
Only time I respond to him is with a (😂)
Don’t put me with any gang ,surely you know me by now that I don’t need anyone to back me up .
When I comment it’s my own Opinion and you know that .
Nasty !!!😂
Mr deflector …
That’s one thing you have always been good at ,I’ll give you that .
HD, you obviously haven’t been reading Davids posts. He accuses people (with no basis of trolls) and does exactly that himself. When he replies, he can have an opinion without making it personal. It all goes back a long way and he is the one who keeps digging. I personally HATE people who get personal and judge you and tell you what you are, without even knowing you. And David gets everything he gets because he is vindictive. If he would stop, then i am sure it all would stop.
And HD, what a really bad thing to say and totally wrong. I do and love to dispute fact AND DO. I take exception to you saying that. I do not like idiots who get personal over an article. They spoil it.
Reggie, I’ve read quite a few of David’s posts, some I agree with, some I don’t.
When I came back on JA, after being away for many years, I was received a bit of name calling over my views of our previous manager. Then last April a certain Dan Smith had a sly dig about me being divorced. Last week he even called me a racist 🙄🤬. He hasn’t a clue what I’ve been through in my life. I could’ve have said something about his private life/up bringing, but I haven’t.
I didn’t
please send me a link or example where I mentioned your divorce ?
why would I know about that , have you mentioned it on here ?
if so ….why ?
I assumed you were lonely but meant that is a nice way as I just notice a few things
But someone can be married and still be lonely .
That’s the only thing I can think of
Only thing I remember about last April is you went through a phase where at the end of each message you called me a slang word , hence why I thought that’s not normal behaviour.
lets just start a clean slate and stick to the subject / Arsenal
only responded now to make it clear you cannot / will not find me mentioning anyone’s divorce
why would I care if your divorced or not lol ?
with respect it’s too deep for a football blog , hence why in my opinion you think this site is something it’s not .
No one is your friend and no one is your enemy, we just want to talk about Arsenal lol
always said if you don’t like my work then don’t respond or mention me
can’t be more fair then that
won’t be going back and fourth out of respect to other readers
Yes you did !! It was when you, me and Derek were having a discussion about the 😉emoji. I said I was divorced and you said “I can see why”.
don’t recall that
Quelle surprise 🙄
Herr Drier,
There’s no point in coming back with a counter argument with David. Because he’s so blinkered on being positive, he looks down on any poster’s that dare to make a valid point if valid point is not a positive one.
So yes I do have a pop at him, I just find his constant defense of Arsenal and Arteta even when valid points are made laughable.
He likes using the phrase, so called Arsenal fans. Just because there are fans that will actually call out Arsenal and Arteta, doesn’t make them any less an Arsenal fan than he is.
And just a point regards poster’s calling other poster’s out, I’m not the only one who does it. You yourself do it, as proved by you calling me and Reggie out.
It goes on a lot, so we’re not unique on this issue.
Derek, yes I called out you and Reggie, but I never called you two names.
Herr Drier,
Please enlighten me on what names I’ve supposed to have called David. If I have then I’ll apologize.
Please enlighten me, on what article and what post?.
Derek, I never said you called him names, and I’m sorry if it came across that I did.
Herr Drier,
I except you’re apologie.
But I’m still confused by you’re quote, but I never called you two names. That would imply that we called David Names.
Derek, well Reggie has called David a troll. That’s name calling in my book.
You have often failed to address the points in the discussion, and resorted to just making accusations. The points that you call “valid” are often unreasonable.
The reason you think I constantly defend Arsenal is because many of the points that you support don’t make sense. When these points are challenged you then call it laughable to do so.
Consider this article and my points above. What have I stated that is “blinkered”?
Regarding some other discussions that I have joined:
I have indicated that Arsenal have a good strong team that can challenge for multiple honours. Is it blinkered to suggest that one reason for this is that Arsenal have one of the best managers in the world right now?
Is it blinkered to state that Arsenal have been affected by injuries which has affected the club’s performances in previous seasons and has contributed to some uneven performances this season?
Is it blinkered to suggest that it is unrealistic to expect Arsenal to play high tempo football for 90 minutes+ and from game to game given the context of the current season.
Is it blinkered to indicate that whilst Arsenal have had good funding in recent years they are not alone in this and other top level teams have spent similar amounts or more?
Which of these is a “blinkered” view? Or you can give examples of your own?
I also challenge you to provide any “valid” points that I have disagreed with.
David,
I don’t argue that you make some valid points as well. But a lot of the time you dismiss anyone else’s view as an attack on Arsenal or Arteta should what they say be of anything negative.
And I stand by that statement.
Its a decent station for sport
Informative and humorous at times
Everyone is entitled to there opinions
Not sure where John Obi has been hiding for the past decade and if he needs to generate interest from comments that divide opinions then so be it but imo it is words that carry no substance.
We are almost there and when we lift it and we will, it wont say most boring winners ever. It will say champions 🏆
Which we will deservedly be as the best time always finishes top come the end of the season
Onwards and upwards
I thought that Ray Parlour calmly and concisely put John Obi Mikel in his place regarding calling Arsenal cheats.
yeah but why not put Milkel face to face with Parlour?
it’s because Mikel will only agree to an interview where he’s not challenged and Talk Sport like getting others to respond so they get more episodes
Sounds very much like members of our current useless Labour government.
Oh dear😧!
After fourteen years of Tory sleaze, corruption and austerity GB, expecting this current go to the clear up the mess in over eighteen years, is ridiculous.
I guess you’d follow Farage or Badenough and take us into Trump’s oil war then?
Imagine how that might decimate our squad?
I’m rather pleased we haven’t got a 34 time convicted felon and sexual deviant in charge, someone who’s not mentioned once in the Epstein files.
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Yea let’s all support a government who take from the working person and give to the scroungers ,and talking of Epstein ,who gave a rather nice job to Lord Mandison .
All governments and their workers are the same – lying money grabbers .
Ken1945,
He may not have any connections to Epstein, but it didn’t stop him employing Mr Mendelson who clearly did.
Ken, not forgetting that the draft dodging tango man whinged about us not coming in straight away in this illegal war. I wonder if 1914 and 1939 rings any bells with him ?
@Herr Drier
🤣…🎯
HD, he also said the war was over and now he’s wanting Europe to bail him out, as Iran have closed the straits to both American and Israeli ships.
Derek, a stupid appointment, but how does that link with the fourteen years of Tory government?
DK, I assume you don’t vote then?
Absolutely not ….
Ken1945,
To be fair I don’t vote myself. I’ve only voted one in my whole life. And if I’m honest I only did that because it was the first time I could once I came of age.
Just for the record I voted for Tony Blair🤦♂️, what a mistake that was. Still I learned my lesson, I vailed never to vote again. Something I kept to.
Truth be told I don’t trust any of the party’s. The only time their interested in you is when they want you’re vote. Where are they for the rest of the four years.
No for me, it’s easy to tell when a MP is lying, their mouth moves, that’s all you need to know.😂👍
Actually Ken, 14 years of Tory sleaze and austerity doesn’t exist In reality, as we had 9 years of prosperity and no more sleaze than currently and then of course Covid and the invasion of Ukraine came along. By the way please don’t try to guess my political leanings as I’m a Labour supporter but this Labour government has totally f****d the country up! Anyway this is not the forum really to discuss it, and sorry I’ll stick to footy in furure😊
Let’s agree to disagree politically GB, as our views regarding The Arsenal seem to be on a level playing field.
Agreed Ken.
This coming from allegedly a person who has cheated on his true age! I don’t give a damn of what he says, and just knew of this on just arsenal. Am more focused on winning the league and directing my energy into supporting the team.
Kenya001
Who are you referring to?
Jax,
I think that Kenya001 is referring to Obi Mikel’s age.
OK Derek, cheers
Talksport have for a decade or more, tried to bait Arsenal fans through things such as The Daily Arsenal with Adrian Durham and now with the guy on drive time.
Whilst I used to take offence previously at how they’d talk down our club whilst clearly ignoring those of other clubs who’s failings were bigger than ours, I have since learned to smile and laugh at their (and the other media) efforts to down play our achievements, as I believe it’s done out of jealousy.
As they say, imitation is the best form of compliment and I believe that they are jealous that Arsenal have always done things the right way and haven’t cheated or bankrolled their way to success – something that most our competitors (bar Liverpool) can’t say they’ve not done.
So Gooners – stay proud and walk tall cos all the negative press is in fact the best form of compliment we can receive
COYG!!
Talksport have for a decade or more, tried to bait Arsenal fans through things such as The Daily Arsenal with Adrian Durham and now with the guy on drive time.
Whilst I used to take offence previously at how they’d talk down our club whilst clearly ignoring those of other clubs who’s failings were bigger than ours, I have since learned to smile and laugh at their (and the other media) efforts to down play our achievements, as I believe it’s done out of jealousy.
As they say, imitation is the best form of compliment and I believe that they are jealous that Arsenal have always done things the right way and haven’t cheated or bankrolled their way to success – something that most our competitors (bar Liverpool) can’t say they’ve not done.
So Gooners – stay proud and walk tall cos all the negative press is in fact the best form of compliment we can receive
COYG!!
I enjoy certain shows and certain presenters. The quality in recent years has improved beyond recognition and the few such as Cundy, O’Hara and Goldstein who are not my cup of tea get the off button
It’s a commercial radio station after all and if they milk the views of Jon Obi Mikel et al then I’m hardly surprised. They pick on Arsenal at times, but they also take a pop at other teams. Utd under Amorim, Spurs under Frank and now Tudor and Slot has had shots aimed at him too. I just take it for what it is
I liked Simon Jordan’s interview series
White and Jordan is worth listening to as the programme uses a variety of respected pundits. The only difficulty is getting Jordan to give his mouth a rest and let the guests get a word in edge ways
I don’t see a huge difference between media and news channels that go overboard on scraps often when there is a quiet news day. JOM used inflammatory language which is food and drink to Talksport. The BBC made a big deal about having a helicopter circling over Cliff Richard’s home some years back in the hope of lurid headlines. TS are a rolling sports channel so topics get repeated regularly as does the news. They do however, have considerable access to live commentaries and cover more sports than they ever did which is why I tune in at various times. Talksport was largely a load of former football players trying to make a living after their playing days were over with Mike Parry doing what so many stations do now, which is to get people going who then phone in. He succeeded perfectly then, Durham continued with the Daily Arsenal and Cundy and co have followed.
I’m more alarmed by the amount of gambling companies that are attached to Talksport who I think are owned by Sky
I’ve started to listen to Jordan and Martin Keown, but that’s about it really.
The negativity towards our club over the years has been objectionable to say the least and the classless Adrian Durham turned me off years ago, along with the, seemingly, alcoholic dependant, Alan Brazil.
I didn’t hear any of the debate with this ex Chelsea idiot who, it seems, accuses The Arsenal of cheating and I really don’t think I’ve missed anything worthwhile.
Good article Dan and another subject we agree on.
there are a few lol
Is there even a line to cross? Live broadcasts are terrific when they’re unscripted, spontaneous, and controversial. Whether you like Talk Sport or not, they often achieve a reaction of polarising the audience and creating ongoing debates (like this one).
I love to hear so-called celebrities making dicks of themselves live on air.
Here we go with the political BS🤮.
A decent article’s debate ruined!
I agree Jax, but sometimes one has to respond, as you did in the first place with your “Oh dear”.
Ken, my response was me showing my disapproval of GB leaving a political comment.
It’s a shame Jax
Sunday night’s international round-up is well worth
a listen. Informative, considered and lacking noise and histrionics
It is our time so we should expect some negative opinions from attention seekers like Obi