Well lovely Arsenal people, performances matter. Intent and desire matter. People think I have an agenda against Arteta, but the truth is I just see things as they are. I refuse to put on the positive glasses and ignore glaring issues which have repeated throughout his entire tenure.
Arsenal 1-1 Man City: Martinelli’s stoppage-time strike rescues a point
We were negative again. It is why we lost at Anfield and why we should have lost again on Sunday. Actually Pep’s negativity also cost him. He took off all his threats trying to defend and was punished. I have watched football for 20 years, and very rarely does negativity win titles.
We were at home, had two extra days of rest and started the game with seven defensive players. Mikel Merino was anonymous again. We created next to nothing with him in Bilbao, yet we did the same thing today. The inclusion of Trossard was baffling. He is a great cameo player, not a great starter.
Gyökeres did next to nothing, but he was isolated once more. His game play requires pace, balls in behind, yet we leave our quickest players on the bench. We will not win the league title. We cannot attack if our life depended on it, and sadly goals are what win titles.
Mentality issues still haunting Arsenal
The behaviour of the squad was the most telling reason why we will not win anything. We scored with five minutes left to play and restarted the game two minutes later. Instead of knee slides, Martinelli should have picked the ball up and put it in the middle with everyone ready for the restart. That is amateur football knowledge, not something requiring a £15 million-a-year manager to figure out.
People write off every Arteta failure with the argument “give him this season.” No, enough is enough. This negative behaviour remains after spending nearly a billion. I remember Villarreal in the Europa League. We needed a goal and registered one shot on target all game.
Against Bayern Munich we needed a goal and still could not pick up the ball. Today the line-up was criminal, but worse was rushing back Saka, who had only one training session, and taking off Madueke, our best player. Saliba was rushed back against the worst Man City team under Pep.
Negative line-ups will never deliver titles
I watched a Barcelona team full of youngsters go to Newcastle and every player looked forward. No sideways passes, no endless exchanges between goalkeeper and centre-backs. If we could switch Arteta for Hansi Flick, we would dominate the league for years.
We are allergic to attacking football. We have won one game where Rice and Merino have started together. This is worse than playing Partey at right-back. Martinelli came on at minute 80, Nwaneri at 85. What exactly are they going to do? Pep was so negative with his subs, and it took a Donnarumma mistake for Arsenal to salvage a draw.
Arteta out! It is the only way we will ever win anything.
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This is nothing but glaring truth.I think Arteta’s kindergarten mistake is visible to all and sundry.His poor mentality keep costing the team.How will you win titles or even games by fielding average players and you got th3 best squad in the league?Zubimendi,Rice and Merino midfield has refused to click and they lack creative edge and very poor.The least we could do is to atleast support Zubimendi with Rice and Eze/Odegaard and also use Nwaneri on the right wing because the boy proved his position last season and he is threat to goal than the madueke who runs helplessly throughout with zero returns.
So I guess that was the “truth” side of the coin. 🤣🤣 Amusing rant.
btw, thanks to the author.
Amusing will be the one who after following Arteta’s Arsenal career for 6 years truly believe he is capable of winning something significant.
Armchair managers and critics are having a field day on the gaffer.
They are sign the gaffer stubbornness could be tempering..
The gaffer throw caution to the wind in the second half a total different approach than what he had started out.
I can’t see Arsenal approaching another game as they did on Sunday, the Spaniard may have turn a curve
Armchair managers also have seen the team already 5 points behind after just 4 games.
Unlike hopefuls they have mental capacity to understand we have already seen this scenario many times.
Armchair managers who called it in 2020 and 5 years later are still proven correct.
It’s 5 games HH, not 4. Please keep up 🙄
Armchair managers who have also seen the team already 5 points behind after just 5 games.
Does it sound any better HD?
Well done for getting something right at long last HH.
What’s with the ‘mental capacity’ comment? Why do so many people take this line that anyone who disagrees with them is mentally challenged? Do you realise how childish that is? Disagree with a bit more grace – you wouldn’t speak to people like that in real life so don’t use the anonymity of the internet as an excuse to act like the big I-am.
Do you know that armchair manager is a derogatory term?
I think all of us who have been watching and following football nearly all our lives knows what we are talking about regarding the team and the game in general.
So when someone label us as armchair managers because he does not like our opinion of things, you should have something to say about that too if you are being fair.
Armchair manager maybe slightly derogatory. No-where near as derogatory as insulting someone’s intelligence.
Fact is, armchair manager is a very accurate description of all of us. We do not manage any real football club. We do not setup day to day training, we do not know of the behind the scenes, or each player’s psychology, etc. We are not in the hot seat. So yes, we are all armchair managers. It may be a bit down putting, but that’s it, just a little bit, and a true statement nonetheless.
The point made above about not insulting other people’s intelligence who disagree with you, is very valid.
Its hard to take issue with the commentary. My son and I both disagreed with the lineup before the game. Trossard should not have started and he has shown repeatedly in the past that he a good impact player. At half time , I was seeing Madueke on the left , Saka coming on the right wing and either Eze or Nwaneri replacing Merino. As it turns out , Madueke picked up a knock . Equally , our much vaunted central defensive partnership was found wanting for their goal. Should Saliba have started ? We had a good covering player in Mosquera .
Its about getting the balance right between defence and offence and Arteta did not get that right to beat a very beatable City side….
I’ve been one of Arteta’s biggest critics on this forum, and have been slated for it at times.
I honestly hoped that Arteta would prove me wrong, and I hope he still does. But with the way he has the team set up, and his slow side to side football. It’s just not going to amount to anything in the long run if he keeps playing this risk averse football.
What’s he afraid of. He keeps banging on about what a quality squad he now has, and yet continues to suffocate the life out of the creativity of the side. If the squad is as good as he says it is, then prove it by letting them express themselves.
If we’re to fail in the league, at least fail playing attacking football. And they’d probably win more than they lose.
But unfortunately if he doesn’t free the reins, we’re winning nothing again. And people can say that people having a go at Arteta are just negative, well that may be the case. But looking at the team currently, who should we be calling out.
You are a critic that makes noise but doesn’t know they are talking about. There is only one Arsenal manager in history with a higher win percentage than Arteta at Arsenal.
Yes, you are being unnecessarily negative.
David,
It’s fans like you that’s the problem with this club. The fuss that’s made about Arteta’s stats.
Yes he’s got the best win rate of any Arsenal manager. Up until the Liverpool game he went something like 22 games unbeaten against the other big 5. And the latest one, is he’s the only manager to go unbeaten against Guardiola 5 times. And there’s probably some more that I’ve missed.
Stats have there place, but that’s all they are. I like to see with my eyes, and looking at the side currently, they’re being held back by a manager who’s playing negative football. And you have the cheek to call me negative.
Take a look at Arteta playing style, now that’s what you call negative.
And as for all these stats by the way. I’d far prefer to have Chapmans, Grahams, or Wenger’s trophy winning record over Arteta the stat man any day of the week.
But it would seem that stats are more important to you.
I know exactly what I’m talking about. Take off those rose tinted glasses David, and actually see what Arteta is doing to the club, regards their playing style.
Eze, Nwaneri, and Dowman. Full of creativity, that this manager will suffocate playing this mind numbingly boring football.
But as long as Arteta keeps piling up those stats, lets all be happy and content. 🤦♂️🙄
No, it’s people like you who want to derail the club’s progress because of your narrow minded biases. Arsenal haven’t been held back by Arteta. They are now one of the most feared teams in Europe and he has contributed significantly to this progress.
I quoted a stat to you because you were making a claim that was not supported by any evidence. Your claims about suffocating some of Arsenal’s most promising young players are not backed by anything but your personal unnecessary disdain for Arteta.
You are also either lying or ignorant to claim that Arsenal under Arteta play “negative” football. The people making this kind of claim are the likes of Schmeichel who have no interest in Arsenal’s progress. Only one team have scored more goals in the PL this season so goodness knows where you people get this idea that Arsenal play “negative” football.
What a simp 😂
Dan Kit,
I take it your talking about David. 😂🤷♂️
Absolutely
The Blokes a tw5t .
Exactly where the problem is @David
People like you don’t believe we can or should be far better than we are right now. Failures of the past has shaped your psyche into believing the status quo is the best that can be achieved.
If you’re still trying to win the league by making comparisons with win rates of previous seasons in the decades past you probably will never win it as of today.
We have to agree that we need step out of the shadows of the past.
This team is capable of reaching multiple 90+ points season and dominate this league with a manger who has the right mentality.
You have no business telling me about psyche. You are simply saying things that seem to make sense in your head to seem clever when it is complete nonsense.
I have simply pointed out a statistic that shows that Arsenal win far more games than they lose. His wining rate is comparable to any of Arsenal greatest managers and amongst the best in the PL era. There has been demonstrable improvement over the course of this manager’s time at Arsenal.
Arsenal have tried to address some of the squad weaknesses of the last few seasons. However, the team is still evolving and we need to see how the season pans out.
No-one can say with any certainty we would have been any better with another manager so your “exactly where the problem is” is just silly.
David your stats based defence is quite meaningless when you consider what George Graham won in a similar amount of time; from two titles, two league cups, an F.A.Cup and an amazing guts victory against a red hot Parma team in the UEFA Cup in 94. Graham did not have an open checkbook and like Arteta played the percentages with some boring football, however his Arsenal teams stood up when it counted. I’m afraid Arteta is going to squander a golden generation of inherited talent plus the huge amounts of financial support he has been provided with.
The stats should give you cause for pause rather than dismissing them out of hand as some of you are doing. One of the issues they highlight is the difficulty of winning major titles in the modern era, particularly the PL and CL. Arsenal aren’t consistently competing in the lesser competitions these days and this makes it more difficult to win such trophies.
Arteta has done a lot to improve Arsenal’s status as a top club in Europe. It is rather graceless of you to suggest that Arteta is going to squander talent.
Twinlights,
You’ve hit the nail right on the head. This squad has the potential to win trophies. But not under this manager.
As you’ll see in David’s response to me regarding Arteta’s stats. For me it’s a case of so what. The most important stat he constantly fails to produce.
But It’s fans like David that just make me laugh. He spouts on about us being the second top scorers in the league. So therefore we can’t be playing negative football.
Again another stat that he conveniently fails to mention, is that we are now 5 points behind Liverpool, who haven’t even hit their stride yet.
I’m afraid there’s not a thing you can say regards anything negative about Arteta or Arsenal are concerned.
Arteta could take Arsenal down a division, and David would find a positive spin in Arteta’s favour.
He has not won $h*te!
The futbol is the horse of sadness.
Running our stars into the ground.
23-24 actually had some attacking prowess, go back to that!
Kudus to all my arsenal fans in d world!!!! What i see in arsenal and man city match is dat, why Arteta start merino and trosard in d first place, why u ave a like of eze and martinelli in d bench…. The only things Arteta can collect d league either Liverpool misuse there chances with so many draw in their match… Without dat i book them for d league taken… If u people can remember liverpool game with Burnley, they gave them a late penalty, rather same penalty will have against Liverpool too and VAR didn’t check against it.. Let us b optimistic about england football, they have pick Liverpool to collect d league rather than arsenal
It might well be true that arteta can’t bring us the title (I do tend to agree, being honest) but it’s too early in the season to be talking like this. If we are going to win something major (EPL or ECL) for the first time in over 20 years, it won’t be straightforward and everyone will make mistakes along the way, very much including arteta.
He hasn’t had a squad this good before, and this really has to be his last chance, but so far we’ve only failed to win against Liverpool at anfield and city (playing mourinho tactics!) at home – games I think we could have won or at least played far better in, but it’s far too early to start calling for heads to roll.
That’s a fair and balanced assessment.
Most people have said let’s look at where the league is after 10 games. We are only halfway there….no need to constantly over analysis the team every single match !
O concur with every view expressed here. Arteta cannot be allowed to play mind games with us anymore. His insistence to play noncreative, defensive Rice and immobile Merino is an indication that he’s using Arsenal games as practice sessions for his preferred national team players. Obviously he doesn’t care that his preferred selection struggles, that Arsenal underperformance where its supposed to dominate. Its brainless to keep Masquerade, Nwaneri and Eze on the bench when Odergaard is out. Next time, Odergaard, Saka and Saliba will again be rushed back over Madueke, Eze and Madquera who haven’t set a foot wrong since they were given chances to play.
Again, whats the point bringing in abplayer 5min from FT?
Surprise, surprise. Fail to win and Konstantin reappears.
Madueke had to be substituted at halftime as he had a knee injury, which will keep him out for a while ! As for Saka, although he’s only had one training session on the grass, he’s been training in the gym.
Spot on. This is exactly what goes on here. When points out Arteta’s failure, they brandish you Arteta hate. I want to say it the upteenth time. With him as our coach, we will not win any major trophy. Arteta is a baby coach. Always afraid of big teams. Why on earth would a coach prefers draw to win? Unless he stop his selfish interest and use players that can get result, it will be another story at end of season. In the absence of Odegaard, you have Eze & Nwaneri yet, you ignored them and prefer your brother. We clamoured for a striker. Now we have one yet, you refused to tactics that will bring out the best in him all because, Berta got him instead of your preferred Sesko. Talking about Saka, he is the one that caused most of his injuries by over playing him even when it was glaring the boy needed rest. We missed winning PL in the last seasons all due to Arteta’s kindergarten knowledge of football. Soon his foot soldiers would urge us to trust the process after six years without having anything to show for it. We are waiting.
Have you ever or Do you ever point out Arteta’s achievements for our club? Or you guys only ever point to his negatives season after season?
That’s the problem with you the ever Negative crew. When Arteta has done well you ignore it and try to explain it away in a very dismissive / negative manner. When he fails you go even more negative.
Isn’t it?👍
Perhaps it is you who should list his achievements at Arsenal if there are any.
To me his greatest achievement and I salute him for that is getting the club to extend his contract with such ridiculous high salary. That is some wizardry level stuff.
HH,
Regards Arteta’s achievements at Arsenal, it wouldn’t take long. In fact you’d only need the back of a stamp to list them. 😂
😂😂😂
HH, so getting us back challenging for the PL and getting us to the quarter final and then the semi final, in his first two seasons of qualifying for the CL, doesn’t count ?
HD, I submit that we didn’t have a open top bus parade for any of the above – something that you judged AW for during his two decades of CL qualifications.
For me, Mikel’s biggest achievements have been getting the club and the fans together as one, except, for example, those who have extraordinary small handwriting skills, finishing 2nd three seasons in a row, CL qualification and semi final
appearance, getting Mr Kronkie to invest heavily in the club and getting top player to turn down the likes of pool, city etc to join our club.
Having said all that, he has to deliver this season – injuries being his only get out of jail free card.
Ken1945,
You say injury’s will be Arteta’s only get out of jail free card. Well with the current injury situation, that excuse is already beginning to form. 🙄
If it becomes serious enough, why shouldn’t it become an “excuse”? Of course, recognizing any good reasons for not winning a major trophy would make your disdain for MA seem less reasonable I suppose.
Bruised Banana,
While I’ll acknowledge that injury’s don’t exactly help, I’m not going to use them as an excuse. Injury’s happen, and the best managers still get their teams to compete.
Which to be fair Arteta did last season along with the injury’s.
But the real good managers still produce trophy winning sides.
The thing that will prevent this Arsenal squad is the managers current tactics and team selections.
Asked in the press conference after the City game about picking the three midfielders that he did, Arteta’s response was. Well no one complained about it in the Athletic game. Well that’s not true for a start, plenty of people questioned it along with the Liverpool game to. Something that Arteta doesn’t want to acknowledge.
When we fail to win the league yet again this season, he won’t need to use any injury’s as an excuse. Because as we all know, they’ll be plenty on here who will have a whole page of excuses for why we failed yet again. 🤷♂️
And some of their excuses will be valid reasons and others will be terrible reasons for not winning the trophy often depending on one’s opinion and perspective. Disagree that real good managers win trophies (certainly not major ones) if injuries are too severe.
So your argument is that any manager that does not win a trophy in a year is not a “real good manager”?
David,
Just a heads up, Arteta hasn’t won a trophy in 5 years. You work it out. 🙄
No.
Apologies David, I mistakenly thought your 8:28 am post was a reply to me.
Ken, I only ridiculed him on an open top bus parade from 2012 when he classed finishing in the top 4 as a trophy, ranking it above actual trophies, the two domestic Cups. Now if he had said that finishing in the top 4 was more important than the 2 domestic Cups because of the financial rewards, then I wouldn’t have ridiculed him.
I agree with you about him getting the club and the fans together as one, it took a couple of years, but he done it. It’s a shame that now some of our ‘fans’ are turning against him.
Btw, it was 19 consecutive years, not 20..
@Herr Drier
I remember a few seasons ago when we challenged for the title and were off by about 2 points and Man United finished 8th about 20 points behind but with an FA cup. These same football Genius football analysts assured us that Man United had has a better season than that title challenging Arsenal team.
When I call these people myopic, shallow minded and braindead I am then accused of being pompus.
How is one supposed to argue with this type? It’s like trying to reason with MAGAs.
👍🤦♂️
Or reason with those who hate Making America Great Again. But enough of the political commentary.
What that during the Slave days? Jim Crow era
or
During Segregation
or
During 60’s Civil Right fighting era?
You are right, shouldn’t have brought in Politics.
Anyways back to the Genius Football analysts on here. 🤓🤓
Slave days, Jim Crow era, Segregation, Civil Rights era?
It’d be nice if either “side” had a true idea of what the other was all about without the hate.
@Bruised
This is the problem with talking / thinking in summuries.
People just seem to go by platitudes “Make America Great Again” etc without thinking about the connotations. Thinking in tunnel vision thinking without weighing up Pros and Cons.
So when you tell I don’t like reasoning with people that want to make America Great Again, I then I’m left with digging deeper. Was America at its greatest during its:
1, Slave Days 1600’s
2, Civil War era of the 1700’s where the Southern Confederate States led by Genreal E. Lee refused to free their slaves?
3. The late 1800’s Jim Crow era were the KKK / Dixiecrats were a legitimate political arm until the 1960’s? Hangings, Lynchings, consistent Fire bombing and burning of a certain Minority’s properties (Homes, businesses, churches, cars etc). Absolute terror.
4, Segregation and Civil Rights Fight era of the 1960’s? Where platitudes such as “No Coloured people allowed”, Only Whites”. Etc.
5. America was great back then where women had near zero right and had to fight for basic rights from the 1800’s (Women Suffrage movement).
Did you know that up until the 1970’s American women were not allowed to hold their own Bank Accounts? They their husbands had authority over that too.
Where Gay Rights did not exist etc.
So when I try to reason with the Shallow Minded MAGAs, I am always left frustrated because most of them about this basic history but are so passionate and sure of their “Make America Great Again” catchphrase.
I don’t want to turn too political but it’s frustrating.
Anyways…
Yes, it must be tough being intolerant and so sure that you are right based on whatever you’ve “learned” and the other side is wrong. So misguided.
@Bruised Banana
I just stated FACTS and you just keep skating past them.
What did I say that was not factual? So you want to tell me that America was Great back in the day as compared to today?
Where is the evidence? Just saying I am being intolerant while MAGAs themselves are some of the most intolerant individuals around solves nothing.
The US economy keeps growing, there are more millionaires and Billionaires in the US than any time before. Better living conditions, more Rights for everyone, access to Education and Healthcare is better than it has ever been. More Freedoms. Etc.
Now tell me when the US had it better than today? Or it’s mostly topics such as immigration, the Woke, Lgbt rights etc that are the pushing MAGA into complete insanity today?
No, Yes, May be? 👍
Clearly, I don’t want a political debate as it would definitely not resolve anything or provide something which you would consider. Again, this is not the place to express politics.
Old little toes is back after getting embarrassed last weekend 😂
@Danny boy.
How did I get embarrased last weekend?
Because I called out the lunatics and explained why I came to such a conclusion? Or because I called out Mr little toes poker for continually / sneakily throwing in his little punches while complaining that he does not want me to give it back? 🤓
So have you improved in your communication skills today or still can’t string more than two coherant sentences together?
🤞🙏👍
😂😂😂😂
Isn’t it 👍
Isn’t it “coherEnt ” DK?
Just asking for a friend Innit?!
@Ken
Again, Mr.little toes. Don’t poke or you will end up crying that I hurts your little feelings when I go nuclear ☢️.
🤓
Oh Dam ,Putins about to release the Nukes.
I for one am looking forward to this 😂
My friend confirms it’s coherent DK.
Did you know that Billy Wright’s wife was part of the Beverly Sisters act and they recorded “Twenty tiny fingers, twenty tiny toes?”
At least I think they did!
The song itself went nuclear ☢️⚠️ and that was the biggest success Billy Wright ever had while manager at the Arsenal!!
There you go then Ken
Myself and Goonster(putin) have learnt something new today .
😂
Goonster its because you are as dumb as they come. How come you can’t summarize your “F” dissertations disguised as comments to make your point?
You write so much and say so little.
@HH
Because I don’t do summaries when not warranted. I don’t want to leave any ambiguities in my contentions.
And my brain finds people that always speak in Summuries to be very lazy thinkers. Social media platforms are filled with them. Have you ever watched “Arsenal Fans TV?”.
Talks like: “Innit blud, Come on Fam”. “
“Innit this, Innit that”….”🤓
Also blame my schools days, (Primary, secondary and University”, as that’s where I was always encouraged to speak in complete sentences and not be a lazy one liner.. Blame my upbringing Fam, “Innit?”
🤓🤓
HD achievements are things that are written in history books.
Trophies won, manager of the year award, unbeaten records etc…
Name one thing Arteta has done that will be remembered for years to come. Of course you are going to run to the single Aubameyang FA Cup.
So according to you HH, his salary will be in the record books, as you reckon that’s his only achievement ?
Of course he will be in the record books of his children and grandchildren 😂😂😂.
Do you think he is working to make you happy?
So will his FA Cup victory then 😁.
@HH
And is this meant to be a serious comment that I should take seriously? 🤦♂️
What achievements exactly? Coming second for 3 years in a row perhaps? The football under this manager is negative and totally indefensible given the quality in this squad.
@ Deniss
So according to you only winning trophies can be labelled as an achievement? I love the Black and White juvenile reasoning here.
What about those small clubs that have never or will never win any trophies? They might as well close theor gates and call it quits.
Did you know that more than 90% of football clubs in the England will never or have never won a trophy in their history? But their fans must be idiots for sticking with them decade after decade of no ACHIEVEMENTS (Trophies).
What is the point of supporting a club like Nuneaton, AFC Wimbledon, Charlton, Luton, Accrington Stanly, Alfreton, Telford, Clyde, etc? Non league, Champions ship, League One clubs etc?
We as Fans of these big clubs are so entitled and live this pampered life where we think that only trophies mean everything.
Reminds me of a rich person thinking that life is about private jets, fine dinning, Vacations, expensive Shopping, Mansions, expensive cars and fashion etc.
🤦♂️🤓
Goonster,
Your question regarding is it only an achievement if you win a trophy, and then you go on to say what about small clubs that have never or never will win trophies.
Firstly of course you can have other achievements other than trophies, but if your at a big club which Arsenal claim to be. Then the need for winning trophies comes with it.
And as for the other teams that are highly unlikely to win trophies, then yes the objectives and achievements are going to be different to the bigger and more expectant sides.
But like it or not teams like Arsenal, along with the other big boys are expected to deliver trophy’s. Not just impressive stats that can be reeled off to make Arteta’s record look better than it actually is.
Because again like it or not, winning trophy’s is what managers are remembered for in the main. Not being the only manager to go unbeaten in their last 5 meetings with Manchester City. 🤦♂️
@Derek
That’s not my point. What I am postulating is that we just can’t be one eyed and think that if a manager does not win any trophies other positive aspects of his era should also be ignored.
So do you think that Wenger achieved anything between 2006-2014?
Remember we went 9 years without a trophy in that period.
So do you think that Wenger achieved nothing for our club in that period just because he did not win a single trophy?
Goonster,
I take your point regarding the 9 years without a trophy. And yes there will be other achievements along the way. But at the end of the day, big clubs win trophy’s.
And yes Arteta has some impressive stats, which I don’t need to list. We all know what they are, and no doubt there’s someone now looking up more stats to bang on about.
But achievements are one thing, but his continued failure to win trophies are the problem. And no amount of stats should blind people to that fact.
And I’m afraid that there are certain poster’s on here who flatly refuse to see it. And that’s there right of course. But it doesn’t make them right.
The football under Arteta is not negative. It’s quite silly for you to make that claim.
You should go support rugby or American football. The beauty of football is a waste to a mind like yours.
Okay David,
You say its not negative football. Then explain what type of football it is then.
I look forward to being educated.
Perhaps I could put forward my thoughts?
It’s possession football, based on the views of Bill Shankly, who said words to the effect of “if we’ve got the ball, they can’t score”.
In my opinion, we saw it work to perfection against Forest recently.
I agree, it can be very frustrating to watch sometimes, but it’s the style that MA is currently employing.
Of course possession doesn’t guarantee wins, as we saw against city and time will tell if MA is correct.
Meanwhile, I’d hate to go back to those 8-2 and 10-2 drubbings, while playing attacking football, but each to their own.
Ken1945,
As I’ve said in previous post’s, in our 2022/2023 season we were solid at the back and potent in attack. It can be done as Arteta and Arsenal proved.
But for some reason only known to Arteta, he’s now gone to the slow side to side pragmatic football.
I don’t want to see Arsenal getting hiding’s either, but If we’re to fail in winning the league. I would take it better knowing that we played good attacking football.
Henson, can you direct me to where MA has said that he prefers to draw rather than win a game?
Without checking, I’m absolutely certain he’s won more games than he’s drawn (or lost, come to that!!) so I look forward to reading your source of information.
Arteta’s achievements are 1 FA Cup and 2 Community Shields.
3 Cups in 5 years.
But that’s not enough. The amount of money that has been spent requires a major trophy.
SJ Seriously!
Your including the two Community Shields as trophies. There nothing more than curtain raisers to the season. Come on now, you can do better than that. 🤦♂️
The charity shield is not a serious trophy! Give it a rest.
The manure website include them in their achievements.
However, they are not celebrated around the Emirates, which should indicate they are not seen as a major trophy.
Why anytime Arsenal doesn’t win a match the spectators all ways unhappy, if Arteter is pep your people will slaughter him, for removing prayers. Playing draw with mancity is not a bad result.
I gave up on Arteta after we blew the league two years in a row, after last seasons shambles finishing miles behind Liverpool surely that should have been it but still he’s in charge taking the team backwards with his negative football, I don’t expect this season to be any different from previous years and I feel for the fans who still have faith in Arteta, as they say it’s the hope that kills 😀
This season has barely begun. So if you have given up already there is no need for you to watch. You can go and follow another team till the season is over. Or maybe give up football altogether.
You should go and support Southampton. Since your mindset is thriving on mediocrity the highs and lows of promotion and relegation suits you perfectly.
A fan who rejoice in mediocrity is not suitable for an elite club like The Arsenal.
You can join Mr Dave. People are tired of your whining and moaning nonsense. In the last few years, save for injuries, Arsenal have been closer to winning major titles than they have been in almost two decades. Yet we have people claim this equates to mediocrity.
You need to go and support those teams and managers that you seem to be so enamoured with. You made much of Emery, so you can go and support him at Aston Villa.
@David so because I don’t have any faith in Arteta I should go follow another team or give up football altogether? I’ve been following the Arsenal since the early 90’s so giving up on them is not an option, I love the Arsenal but I don’t have faith in a manager who hasn’t won us anything bar the FA cup since he turned up and spent a boat load of cash in the process, you keep the faith in Arteta, what a muppet! 😀
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City defended for their lives- didn’t think I have ever said that before. Arteta didn’t expect that which took him the first half to find out, he was taken by surprise. A mistake by 3 defenders plus Donnarumma let us in in stoppage time. The most chaotic game I’ve seen in a long time. 2 great goals, though we should have won.
Makes a change at the moment to be freed from the constant moaning by your remarks. I felt that Arteta gave too much respect for City and your view that he was surprised by their setup is very fair.