Proof Arsenal are NOT up for title fight?

To be perfectly honest I am not entirely sure what to make of the Premier League stats showing the disciplinary records of Arsenal and the other 19 clubs in the division. In a way the fact that the Gunners have got the best record for discipline and would be the club to get the fair play award of it was given out at this part of the season is a positive thing and shows that we are playing the game fairly and in the right way.

Another way of looking at the report on The Sun showing that Arsenal have committed the second fewest fouls over the course of the current EPL campaign could be seen as a sign that we are simply not fighting hard enough on a game by game basis.

The stats do not take into account the severity or nature of the infringements but the fact that our 216 fouls is almost a third less than the number of the two biggest offenders Man United and Tottenham is quite remarkable. And the fact that those two rival clubs have the best defensive records in the division is unlikely to be a coincidence.#

The sports website ESPN has another chart showing EPL disciplinary stats with yellow and red cards and the Gunners are rock bottom of that. Our 23 yellow cards is a lot lower than the next best figure of 31 for Everton. But we also have close to the highest amount of red cards with three and only West Ham, Newcastle and Stoke have more with four each. Does this also show that we have no luck or that the referees have been harder on us?

I personally would like to see the Arsenal players make more fouls and make life harder for the teams we are facing and if the refs would stop sending our players off for little things while letting our opponents kick lumps out of us that would be handy. What do you guys make of these stats?

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  1. It is no coincidence. Wengers philosophy is to win the Fair Play Cup along with the 4th place trophy.

    We don’t have a single good player at making professional fouls (well maybe Coquelin a bit). Flamini is the worst as he racks yellows on stupid tackles which never were dangerous attacks anyway. This season he has decreased his tackles so basically now pretty much anyone can run past him and he will do nothing. Tottenham are doing quite well on this front, stopping attacks.

    1. Well said mate!
      And in a few years, he will also top the Money League chart!
      Yet Another invisible trophy that wenger craves for. ?

      Finishing top of the fairplay league, gets you into the Europa league, qualify stage ? A Typical shrewd wenger move, just incase the ? hits the fan, in the league.

      Also, Don’t forget that Wenger has a NO Contact policy in training,
      Which maybe the reason why his players take that stance on matchdays.

      1. Thumb me down if you like but I hope Barca beat us by at least 4 goals at the Emirates just so Wenger can have his flaws exposed for everyone and the board to see. Remember how Liverpool tore us a new one with Suarez alone ? Now imagine Suarez with Neymar and Messi ALL in form, even Madrid lost 4-0 in their own home, we are not progressing in the CL that’s a fact and has been for the past 10 years. And we never will without the adequate number of TOP QUALITY players, which includes a WORLD CLASS STRIKER

        1. That just sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me. Personally, I want Arsenal to win every match they play. I don’t understand why anyone would want their team to lose. Arsenal go into the game as under dogs. Losing heavily to Barca won’t effect Wenger’s position at the club or the boards view of him. If Arsenal beat Barca that could give them the lift and confidence to go on a winning run in the Prem and go top again. Shouldn’t this be what all gooners want?

          1. Because whenever we win the manager comes out the the same excuse that’s been holding us back for years “our squad is good enough we don’t need players in this position”.

        2. “Thumb me down if you like but I hope Barca beat us by at least 4 goals at the Emirates just so Wenger can have his flaws exposed for everyone and the board to see.”(gooner lad)

          That just sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me. Personally, I want Arsenal to win every match they play. I don’t understand why anyone would want their team to lose. Arsenal go into the game as under dogs. Losing heavily to Barca won’t effect Wenger’s position at the club or the boards view of him. If Arsenal beat Barca that could give them the lift and confidence to go on a winning run in the Prem and go top again. Shouldn’t this be what all gooners want?

          Please excuse the previous gta reply, finger slipped when copy and pasting.

    2. Maybe if wenger had made the right decisions like maybe
      Not selling afobe
      Buying schneiderlin pedro and kondogbia
      Selling arteta flamini and walcott.

      We may not be like this.

      1. Tbf we didn’t need Schneiderlin, what we needed was another DM and a forward that can play LW and CF.

    3. I was going to disagree initially and point out that Wenka & Shady Stan are the ones who are not up for title fight , but I immediately realise its Arsenal as a whole since the two of dem make up Arsenal including some of us Fans who keep filling their pockets with money…
      So I agree ARSENAL (Wenka, Kroenke & Deluded Fans) are not up for title fight

      1. Due to the number of matches played this season and the categories assigned to them, there will be an additional cost to your season ticket for the 2016/17 of between £18-30 depending on the price of your seat. This additional cost will be added to your renewal price for next season.”

        YOU THE FANS WHO CONTINUE TO GO THE STADIUM ARE THE REASON..
        #DELUDED FANS OUT# WENGER OUT#

  2. I’ve looked at the schedules and Arsenal’s last 8 games are considerably easier than City’s, Spurs’ and Leicester’s. Win against Bournemouth and Leicester would mean we’re on par with them again (assuming City will be able to beat Leicester at Etihad). Not really much ground lost after that one and I figure Spurs will struggle with their busy schedule aswell. It’s all very much open still but if we don’t get 3 points at Bournemouth we should really worry.

    1. While that may be true we still have to play City, Spurs, United, West Ham and Everton all AWAY from home. These are grounds that are all notoriously difficult to win at. You might be confident of us getting on par with Leicester after 2 games but how many points do you think we’ll take from the aforementioned 5? 15? 12? 10?
      Moreover you talk about Spurs dropping off but it’s Leicester you should be concerned with.

      They could lose 2 games and we’d be a mere 1 point above them assuming we win both of ours. But the difference is they’d have played their two toughest fixtures out of the way with United away as their hardest fixture. We’d still have Spurs, United, Everton, City, West Ham away.

      Lastly Leicester are out of every cup competition with only the EPL to play for. Arsenal still have their CL tie with Barcelona, the FA Cup and the EPL.

      Worry more about us.

    2. I have seen two computer based analysing of how the Premier league will finish.

      Some American version had Arsenal to win it by 0.4 pts,
      Which didn’t make sense, (typical yanks) I’m guessing on goal difference?

      And the most recent one (today) was on a talk sports sight,
      Which showed that we finished second ‘1 point’ behind Man city and it predicted that City will beat us 3-1.

      All I can say is, if Wenger doesn’t buck his ideas up,
      We will be lucky to finish in 4th!

      1. Or you could conclude, based on your own evidence, that we will finish 1st or 2nd? Yet you make a leap and arrive at we’ll be lucky to finish 4th. Too much sun today Fatboy?

  3. Let us compare ourselves with leaders, Leicester City, on a scale of 0-10:
    Aggression: 5/10 (Arsenal), 9/10 (Leicester City)
    Consistency: 5/10 (Arsenal), 9/10 (Leicester City)
    Desire (Wenger’s favorite word): 4/10 (Arsenal), 10/10 (Leicester City)
    Character (another AW favorite): 5/10 (Arsenal), 9/10 (Leicester City)
    Vulnerability under pressure: 8/10 (Arsenal), 5/10 (Leicester City)

    We are lacking in essential qualities, and I hear a lot of this “It’s a matter of time before Leceister crumbles!” No… they deserve to be there! We don’t! They are consistent in their desire, aggression, character, and don’t just go down without a fight even when they play badly. To this day, I still think that only against Man United did we play like we intended to be champions.

    1. With such a huge gap in ratings we are only 5 points adrift. But I get what you are saying.

      Lower class players yet they outperform us with their attitude and approach of the game.

      1. I agree, but with Leicesters squad value the same could be said of most teams that are sitting below them. Pretty meaningless assessment, other than begging the question if that’s what it takes why haven’t Stoke won the PL several times?

  4. Manager and players who are comfortable in being losers deserve nothing! The aim is the money and not football glory.

    If not for Arsenal i hope that Leicercity will win the leauge. First f all to teach the rich teams that money is not everything. And to teach Wenger especially that actions do speak louder then emty words.

    Cohesion, winning mentality, hunger. loool. what a fraud.

    1. Don’t forget about the Stability and the focus! !!

      * Whilst The Ox does his stupid little dance before running out on to the pitch! ????

      Where was Flamini…. to slap him into focus? ?

    1. Next season it will be Guardiola v Mourinho v Klopp and Pochettino with Wenger fighting it out with Stoke for 5th place!!!

  5. Fight, challenge, heart are alien words to AFC, we are more compatible to words like collapse, fold, gutless, fragile

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