Should Arsenal sell Danny Welbeck and bring back Lucas Perez?

I love the idea of Unai Emery taking a new broom to Arsenal and shaking up our underperforming bunch of overpaid Prima-Donnas, and that should include shipping out quite a few of the worst offenders.

One that has never excelled for me is the Englishman Danny Welbeck. He may be off to the World Cup, but he has hardly set the Emirates alight in his four years at the club. He has averaged just 28 games in all competitions, and his scoring average is just 7 per season, which is hardly inspiring for a striker!

As usual he has had a few good performances towards the end of the season, which is why Southgate is taking him to Russia, but in my view this would be the perfect time to cash in on the ex-Man United reject, especially if he performs well at the World Cup. There are already rumours that the Turkish giants Besiktas are interested but I am sure there will be many more offers if he is put on the market…

And do we even need him? We have a much more accomplished striker/winger in Lucas Perez, who came with a big reputation two years ago but was left out in the cold by Wenger despite playing well when given his chances. Perez went back on loan to Deportivo and despite his hometown club getting relegated he still scored nine goals and eight assists for them, and also had the second highest chances created behind only Lionel Messi for the La Liga season.

I really hope that the Spaniard plays well for Emery in pre-season and is given a chance to prove his worth to Arsenal consistently. Surely he would be much more effective than Welbeck??

Darren N


  1. C, J says:

    Ya good one

    1. colin waterman says:


  2. Jah son says:

    Why not give the new coach a chance to decide who he wants to keep being that Wenger signed talented players but fail to motivate them.

    1. Nothing changed says:

      100% agree. Up to the new manager and the way he wants to play. I rate Perez higher than Welbeck but am happy to go with the new manager’s view

      1. Ozziegunner says:


    2. jojo says:

      I feel sorry for Emery he only has £50 million to play with..I suggest they sell the deadwood Iwobi, Cech, Mustafi, Chambers, Xhaka and Kos…They might make £80 Million and buy two very decent defenders..I am happy with the other players 🙂

      1. GB says:

        We don’t KNOW how much he has to spend

        1. Ozziegunner says:


  3. Theo93 says:

    Welbeck is trying bt ha refused to play better football. Football today is about strength, skill nd understanding bt mostly understanding. That understanding is wat welbeck lacks in the game. Keeps doing same mistake often. He should nt b in d first squad

  4. gotanidea says:

    If Arsenal cannot get a left-footed winger, it might be worth it to use Lucas Perez as a right winger, because we already have many right-footed attackers (Welbeck, Aubameyang, Lacazette, Nelson, Mkhitaryan)

    I think a dribbler are as important as a DM. According to the Whoscored, the Champions League finalists are dominated by skillful and pacey dribblers:

    1. Sadio Mane: 34 successful dribbles from 54 dribbles
    2. Mohamed Salah: 28 successful dribbles from 38 dribbles
    3. Roberto Firmino: 22 successful dribbles from 30 dribbles
    4. Cristiano Ronaldo: 22 successful dribbles from 27 dribbles
    5. Philippe Coutinho: 17 successful dribbles from 23 dribbles

    As for the most successful dribblers in 2018 (high frequency and high success dribbles) according to the Whoscored (, they are the elites like Lionel Messi, Neymar, Douglas Costa and Eden Hazard

    But surprisingly, West Ham’s Masuaku and Lyon’s Tanguy Ndombele were able to join the elites, ahead of Zaha, Fekir, Mbappe, Coman , Dybala and Sane:

    1. jojo says:


  5. georgie b says:

    Why didn’t Lucas play more? Who knows. Also, anyone think Szczesney would ever come back?
    I consider him world class. Forgot why he left in the first place.

    1. gotanidea says:

      Coz he made a lot of silly mistakes and erratic behaviour in the field. But the same thing happened to Almunia, Lehmann, Cech and Ospina, hence I blame Wenger’s system for not forcing Arsenal attackers to press the opponent hard

      1. Kenny Rolfe says:

        What do you mean erratic behavior on the field, Wenger sacked Szczesny for smoking a cigarette in the showers but he didn’t mind Iwobi partying till 3 o’clock in the morning. Regarding Lucas Perez, yes, definitely better than Wellbeck. Wenger never played him because he never wanted him, stubbornness in the exstreme, he then gave him a blank even though he either scored or assisted in nearly every game he played.

        1. sarsfieldNY says:

          Kenny do you not remember why he was smoking in the shower? i love szcz but dude had an absolute shocker and it the mistakes were becoming a pattern. not to mention szcz father was always causing problems with this statements to the media. also, it was never confirmed that iwobi was partying– he was just seen on snapchat hanging out with a few friends, and as wenger stated he didnt think iwobi violated any team rules. dont believe everything in the tabloids man

          1. Kenny Rolfe says:

            sarsfieldNY, sure their was a few problems with his behavior, but he’s young and they could have easily been sorted. Apparently Juventus are over the moon with his performances. Wenger let him go and kept the over the hill, Petr Cech and the clown Ospina. If Wenger new anything about goalkeepers he’d have promoted the South American Martinez who I personally think will turn out to be an excellent keeper. As for Iwobi, I don’t think he’s worth defending, the quicker he’s sold the better.

        2. Greg says:

          Absolutely right. Why bring him to Arsenal and not give him a chance. Just one more example of Wenger stupidity.

        3. Ozziegunner says:

          Kenny spot on re Lucas Perez

  6. Matt Dyer says:


    Welbz is younger and if he stays injury free offers the team more than Perez

    Not saying Perez isn’t decent but Welbz offers more defensively

    1. RSH says:

      he’s younger by two years, let’s not act like Welbeck has potential. He’s at his peak and he’s average at best. Perez was good every time he came on for us. What Welbeck offers defensively doesn’t make up for his poor and inconsistent goal scoring. I’d rather Arsenal ditch both, but if I were to pick one of them off the bench to change the game I would rather Perez. Also, let’s not forget Welbeck has one year left on his contract. This is the best time to sell him to make some cash off of him. Can’t see him getting an extension.

      1. jojo says:

        Both Welbeck and Perez would be best suited to Luton Town…Very average

        1. RSH says:

          haha, Luton a bit harsh, but I agree that selling both on would be the best decision.

  7. Sheet Head says:

    Perez no 9 shirt was already given to Lacazette, do you think he will never pass to Lacazette because of that? ???

  8. mick ford says:

    Welbeck irobi both had chances but both would not hold place in championship if anything when they both plaued they dragged the team down to their level got to bbe got rid offmick ford

  9. Counsel says:

    All of them are not good enough for Arsenal and let this sink to thie thickest skull around.Case closed

    1. Rudy Garcia fan says:

      Have watched Lucas in Spain and he’s about 5 – 10 percent better than Welbeck. Not quite good enough for challenging for top 4.

      2800 minutes played, 8 goals scored: 3 penalties and 5 from open play. Nothing to write home about.

      In his team, Adrian has 9 goals from roughly 2350 minutes played and all from open play, so he’s not even the best forward in the 18th best team in La Liga.

      1. Abel says:

        Thank you.
        Someone who actually watched him in his comfort zone (Spanish league, deportivo)
        Wenger may have been stubborn and set in his ways but he was no fool. Most of the stats Perez had at Arsenal were in easy matches i.e cup matches against lower league opposition and weak CL games.
        If he was half as good as you all make him out to be why didn’t he set laliga alight?

        1. Stephen says:

          He did! That’s why we went for him. 19 league goals.

  10. Samuel says:

    I agree with the new coach welbeck services are over. He lacks goal sense maybe the style of play doesnt suit him

  11. Jah son says:

    I really think we arsenal fans should stop trying to pick a team for our new boss and just allow him to show us what he’s about come on let’s show the guy some respect

    1. jojo says:

      Like they showed respect for Wenger? How shallow..

    2. RSH says:

      this is a fan forum. We’re allowed to discuss our opinions about what we think should happen with the team. In the end he’s obviously going to get who he thinks is best but doesn’t mean we can’t share our point of views. i don’t see anyone being aggressive about it either. Every fan of any team does this when transfer window is open

      1. Ozziegunner says:


  12. Innit says:

    I actually feel sorry for Podolski and Perez. They were treated pretty poorly by Wenger

    At one point Podolski was our best finisher and Wenger first stopped playing him then loaned him out. I was furious. He was our best finisher after RVP left and he was good enough for Germany. Really dumb move. He didn’t have to start necessarily but not to even be on the bench was crazy

    Wenger treated Perez poorly too. We paid decent money for him and he played well in the FA Cup but hardly got a chance in the Premier League. Again this infuriated me

    1. jojo says:

      I agree Wenger had his favourites…Sanchez, Ozil and creepy RVP….I hope Emery is not biased refreshing….

  13. Sean says:

    Who really cares if we sell Welbeck or Perez? Id ship both but im not the head coach….

  14. Victoria Concordia Crescit says:

    I love Lucas Perez . we could have made use of his talent in the Europa league . more of a goal threat than Welbeck

  15. John Rambo says:

    Dat guy Welbz over Lucas all day. I realize most fans only watch the epl so they’ve only ever seen lucas in a gunners shirt coming on as a sub. Yes he may be slightly more creative but welbeck is more of a goal threat and works harder. As a defender, who would you rather defend against? Small fry lucas or big bad welbeck?

  16. Simon Williams says:

    Biggest question for Manager is Ozil!

    He’s just signed contract – so If sold would get a lot of cash. And serious wage savings

    I’m not an Ozil hater – but he might not fit into managers plans. And he’s not been great this season – apart from a few glimpses

    I also think it would send a HUGE positive kick up the whole teams arse.

    No more pre-Madonna’s

    And the cash much needed for players with a better fit.

    What you think?

    1. Roachie says:

      Finding someone to buy Ozil would be difficult, they would have to pay his wages

      1. RSH says:

        Agree. no chance Ozil is sold this summer. I dont see how the club will ever sell him. Hes on 300k per week. Only teams that will match that are Chinese teams or Saudi teams. Top European clubs dont really rate Mesut anymore and would never pay him nearly as much as we are. Even if Ozil is dropped he’d be fine making that much money riding bench. Unless Low says he has to be starting to be picked for Germany, I think the club is stuck with him.

    2. RSH says:

      I agree. I’m not a fan of his, but speaking purely from what I think Emery wants in the team, I don’t see him sticking with Ozil. If he wants Seri then midfield will likely be Seri/Xhaka/Ramsey. That forces Ozil out wide, which I don’t think will happen. Emery likes hard workers too and that is simply not what Ozil does and he won’t at this point in his career either. It’s a big decision if he decides to drop him. But he should be allowed to form to the team he wants and not just pick based on reputation and salary.

    3. jon fox says:

      I would be OK with selling OZIL, IF Emery wishes. His new contract ensures a good sale fee and his present wage is far too large, for a “flat out in only one in four game” player. I see no lazy player lasting long under Emery. If that includes Ozil, which is mainly in the players gift to decide by trying 100%, or not, then so be it. Without a fully committed eleven players, whoever they are, all the time too, no team has a hope in hell of winning titles. After a decade of softness our pampered lot are about to learn this very quickly. OR ELSE LEAVE THE CLUB , whoever they are!

      1. Ozziegunner says:

        Also Ozil leaving would reduce the wage bill if he doesn’t meet Emery’s expectations.

  17. Victoria Concordia Crescit says:

    personally, i think it’s spelt “Prima-Donnas”,

    1. Ingleby says:

      But the other way was funnier!

  18. Diana says:

    I honestly think that Lucas Perez should be given a fair shot in pre-season and hopefully he shines. I think most people ended up believing Wenger about Perez. If you want, find two or three game videos and watch them. He is good with finishing, setting up others, long passing and positioning. I would bring him in to play on the Right Wing. I wouldn’t sell Iwobi, but i honestly would send him out on a 2 year loan, preferably to a Championship side or premier league side fighting relegation. He is a decent youngster who hasn’t had to WORK to get where he is and he need a bit of hard work and discipline. While i am a fan of Welbeck and his work rate (exceptional IMO) but he is not Arsenal quality. I would start Joe Campbell ahead of Welbeck anyday. We should definitely sell, along with Xhaka, . As for Wilshere, i would keep him, BUT he would not be my first choice. I would bring in some stronger DM who partners with Ramsey in midfield, and have Wilshere come in as a super-sub. He is good and can break up play but i feel he gets clueless once he gets to the box. Someone teach him to play more like a deep lying DM and not a box to box.

    But in all honesty, most of these players will become better under Unai because he is a stickler for discipline and hard work and some of these have regressed because there was no BIG demand on them. But DM and CB are priorities. After Cech got the number 1 jersey, i doubt we will get a goal keeper but i wish on anyhow.

    1. Enagic says:

      Perez is way better than welbeck just look few seasons ago when he used to shine and score goals agaist barcelona – wenger was just not good for arsenal any more he even believe walcott will be world class at some point if it wasnt a new regime pushing walcott out he would still be around and on higher wage with below average ability

  19. Grandad says:

    Neither Welbeck nor Perez have long term futures with Arsenal.Both are willing workhorses but lack the quality required to make it at the top level.Perez has been poor/average on loan last season and Emery is merely providing his compatriot with the courtesy of a face to face meeting before moving him on I suspect.

  20. Sign someone Orsin Venker says:

    Need a left footed, dribbler with brilliant technique and can curl one in from the edge of the box…
    I can think of RIYADH MAHREZ.
    Entering his peak , did so well in a club that rarely attacks or has possession…

    1. Ozziegunner says:

      Mahrez to be signed by Man City apparently.

  21. Maks says:

    Welbeck is a very similar case to Ramseys. If he is not from UK he would never play for Arsenal long or any other of the big clubs above Everton.
    We even dnt need Perez if Emery thinks he is not good enough. I watched him playing in Spain and he s good there but not for the top clubs, he s littlebit limited.
    In both cases I would rather put young gunners in the fire…. let’s give them a chance!

  22. thorkell einarsson says:

    is joel campell still an Aesenal player ? If so, use him rather than
    lazy boy özil !!

    1. stubill says:

      Out of contract as of June this year.

  23. stubill says:

    Welbeck and Perez?

    The facts are, neither of them score nearly enough goals or are a real threat, out of the two if we had to keep one it should be Welbeck.

    The only reasons for this are he will chase back, defend, his height and strength are an advantage and the only other reason I can think of, off the top of my head is he helps fulfil the homegrown quota, other than that, neither should really be retained, they’re just not good enough!

  24. ruelando says:

    I think space is in the squad for both, but, if it was a choice it would be Perez, better technically, the chances Welbeck got in front goal i would bet that Perez would put away a higher percentage, yes Welbeck is better defensively but in the position played the emphasis is scoring goals.

    I would also give Campbell another year, we need workers not lazy bones and Campbell did a lot of work, when he last played for us.

  25. Carey Moorw says:

    Welbeck over Perez, any day!!! Perez is technically better in front of goal, but Welbeck puts more pressure on the opposing defenders. Who do you think opposing defenders are more afraid, Perez or Welbeck, when they’re barrelling down on them? Remember, the winger job is to score goals, but also create gaps by extending the defence. Auby+Laca can finish off the havoc created. The team is fundamentally soft, so have a ‘power’ in the box, plus defensive responsibility, isn’t a bad thing!!!

  26. Fkhalifa says:

    Welbeck over Perez

    He’s more of a premier league player than Perez, Perez looks another soft ozil,wilshere etc..

    but with welbeck you are sure of power, pace,strength,airel duels,threat opposition defenders…

    welbeck should only be sold for a Draxler,di maria or word class wingers.

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