A petty stamping of authority or a message well sent?
So, if reports are to be believed that Mikel Arteta left out captain Pierre Emerick Aubameyang for being late to the game, is it safe to say that despite us winning, Arteta was rather petty?
Here’s my opinion, Arteta is not one to shy away from disciplining his players, we saw him begin that with Matteo Guendouzi after we lost to Brighton. He never played for Arsenal again and was sent out on loan, but having a bad attitude and being arrogant and rude to other people is something completely different to being late to a matchday game.
Yes, he was supposedly late and yes that is unacceptable, but what if he had genuinely valid reasons for it and he couldn’t help but being late because somebody maybe needed his help? At the end of the day Aubameyang is only human, and you cannot tell me that nobody has ever been late to work before for one reason or another.
Arteta left him out completely from the game and we won, had we lost though many fans would be on his case. But regardless of the reasoning for him being late, if he was, if it was a genuine reason, I think he was wrong to leave him out.
In a big game, a North London derby, not any derby but a North London derby, a game that is so big for players, the club and the fans, a game that once was in our DNA to never lose, and despite being beaten many times in recent seasons by them, a game where no matter how the season is going, we always want and need to win, for North London pride, for confidence and for mentality if nothing else. So no matter the reasons of what is going on in a dressing room, if a player is not injured, especially if it is the club captain, you cannot leave him out.
Him being late is not a big deal. Now if he was late because his alarm didn’t go off or if he was playing PlayStation or just couldn’t be bothered to turn up on time then that is a different story, but this is Aubameyang, a player who loves the club, whose sees the club and the fans as his family, who ignored major big clubs to extend his contract in what could be the final years of his playing career, so why would he purposefully be late? If he really was late, and it was enough to leave him out and show authority then surely fans have a right to know the true facts so they can understand the managers reasoning behind the decision on a BIG matchday right!?
Although we don’t know the full details as Arteta never discloses things. Yes seeing authority from a manager is a good thing but if it is over something as petty as being late for good reason, then I think our manager has serious issues but he got lucky that we walked away with all three points!
Shenel Osman
If the reason was valid, I want to believe Arteta and his staff would have acted appropriately. He had more to loose dropping his captain. That he went ahead to drop him shows the reasons were probably not valid enough to have Auba pardoned. But really fans need to let this go, the more we press the more we likely will make this an issue in the squad.
Excellent points
This story has been done to death
If there was any valid reason for being late then a quick call on his mobile phone to the boss should have done the trick
What sort of message would it send out to other players that if someone breaks the rules and he’s captain they should be allowed to get away with it whether it’s a big game or not I hear that he has been late on many occasions also arteta does not have to make the reason public end of.
I totally agree and can’t quite make out why you think I don’t
Well said William and apparently this is not the first time either. Rules shoulf be same for everyone. That is what earns you the respect of people.
Logic, your logic is spot on; this apparently is not the first time Aubameyang has lacked punctuality. It is reported that the Manager’s action was supported by the other players.
Discipline must be fair and applied equitably.
No need and please stop these inciting articles, because Arteta and Aubameyang need to focus on the Olympiakos game. Unless you prioritize this site’s traffic over the next phase of EL
Shanel
You are seeing this as a one off event.
I back MA in what he did, it wasnt a petty move as you put it.
Auba has been late many times apparently so what do you think is the right message to him?
Oh you can be late consistently and you still play because you are Auba??
Nah mate, not for me
Agreed. As it has been reported this is not his first. For the manager to drop the most important player and captain of the team shows he had enough of that.
And if this is not the first then Mikel has been generous not to drop him before.
Still we had Ceballos who was going around punching everyone and contribute nothing on the pitch yet he wasn’t dropped and sent back to Madrid. The discipline issues have skyrocketed under Mikel something which we rarely saw under the great one.
Perhaps Mikel should try to earn the respect of the players. Disciplinary actions are not enough to get him that respect. He will get fear not respect.
He should try to fix the root of why are there is no discipline in and outside the pitch.
We have a big game and a chance to advance in the most important competition of the season. Can we focus more on that ?
Regarding Auba, I’m sur he will play AND score against Olympiacos so we can leave all this behind us. COYG
Well said William. Arteta is the boss, I have been late for work, sent home no pay (a few times,I like my bed). But kept everyone else on their toes and they were never late, good management.
A few times?!! Tut tut 😄
About 0nce a month
Com’n Shenel, I’t’s been revealed that he’s a serial late attender of scheduled meetings etc and it looks like Arteta is making a standard so he should. If Auba had good reason to be late a quick call would have sufficed.
…making a stand and so he should
Well, it certainly is a hot topic!! Even Henry and Carragher joked about it on Monday night football last night!
Btw, how good was it seeing Henry back on Sky? Been a while… and when he said “Happy to see Jamie. Two metres apart from me like in a game!”
😂😂 Classic!!
God help Auba if he’s late out for the 2nd half on Thursday!!
Trolling Jamie on his home ground Sue. Does it get any better?
He’s been late on most occasions the season and that includes his scoring rate..
Sue P correct , I have been late for sales meetings due to being stuck on the M1 . A quick call ahead and the problem was solved.
Let’s back our manager on this one. Is there any reason to think, he has acted this way without considering all aspects?
I don’t think so.
We know why he was late, he was stuck in traffic on the way to the Emirates, unfortunately not for the first time apparently.
Stuck in traffic in lockdown London!! 😊
Declan, I saw the picture of his car in the traffic on twitter. What cracked me up was someone asked which car was his!!! Couldn’t believe it 😂
So what will be solved by the club telling us fans what happened with Auba?
What power or input do bring to the table?
Lets just concentrate on the result and not what is best for individual players. Auba is not some sort of Henry or RVP.
The bigger question is, is the team a better team without him in it presently. This is not the 2018/2019 Aubameyang who was devastating to other teams. This is the 2020/2021 Aubameyang that hardly touches the ball, can’t retain or bring others into the game. I know recently he got a hatrick and has scored some goals but did the team look and play better without him in it? Of course we all hope to see the best Aubameyang possible but he needs to be dropped if he’s not contributing to our attack the way we need him to!
Arteta is very well paid to manage, and that is precisely what he did.No fan involvement required.
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I am not Arteta’s greatest fan, but I he has done exactly the right thing with Aubameyang. Discipline is vital and translated to the field of play leads to a dominant, assertive football team. So Arteta’s best path to success is to be strong on discipline. The caveat though is to be fair and equal which has been Arteta’s nemesis in the past. There are some players who were not treated fairly or equally. If Arteta is strong, like he was with Aubameyang he will earn respect….and gain support from those like me.
Another personal agenda driven article from tedious Shenel, who seems to think he and we have a right to know every little detail of how MA has handled this case. We and he do not have that right and I wish to make that point loud and clear.
Shenels clear agenda is entitlement driven and why he imagines that Arteta needs to explain his reason(s) to us all on here is a mystery to thinkers like me.
Typically for Shenel there was a complete lack of balance, with no mention whatever of the recent revelation that Auba has form for being late. NO MENTION OF THAT AT ALL! WHY EVER NOT, SHENEL?
Now to my next gripe; ” being late is no big deal”! An incredibly sillly and plain wrong statement, made even worse by Shenels assumption that there was a good reason behind his lateness. Despite him having previous form for being late!
HAVING TO READ TOSH LIKE THIS SHAM OF AN ARTICLE WHERE BIAS IS FALSELY PRESENTED AS TRUTH, IS SICKENING TO THOSE, WHO LIKE ME, PREFER TO LOOK AT THE FACTS AND DO NOT BELIEVE IN MOULDING”FALSE” ASSUMPTIONS TO FIT A PERSONAL AGENDA DRIVEN SO CALLED ARTICLE.
Shenel is a woman.
That’s what I thought HH. I began to doubt myself for a moment
Yes Sue Admn Pat mentioned it sometime back.
correct HH
please what’s going on with MARTINELLI…..is he dating Arteta’s daughter?
No Stan’s son.
lol…..honestly Stephen, its shocking how that young baller has been frozen out
I am heartened to see that so far not a single post on this thread accepts Shenels silly theory that being late is “no big deal” and that we should all be party to MA s reasons.
Wrong on both counts Shenel and we all know it. SHAME YOU AND YOU ALONE DO NOT!
On game day, players even at armature level know what time they have to arrive.
In professional life, it’s common curtesy to call ahead and inform that you are held up.
Your article seems to suggest that we should ignore the fact that he came later than he was meant to , probably didn’t call ahead of time to inform his boss that he wouldn’t make it in time and somehow arteta was not intelligent enough to ask him why he was late and evaluate the weight of the reason? You literally are saying the boss has to explain his treatment to you of his employees. I think what arteta did was very right. Now every other player knows, it doesn’t matter how big you are. if you show up late , you don’t play.
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👍 👍 “Manners maketh Man” , my old school motto.
Also one of my favourite sayings
Jonny boy could do with reading this ,cause that bloke as no manners what so ever ,disgusting reading what he’s wrote up top attacking another Article and it’s writer .
How admin let him post on here is something I can not figure out .
Maybe this explains why we rarely saw AMN.. he was late for training ‘several times’…..
I’m late with my reply…. hope Pat doesn’t ban me!!!!
Of ours MA is 100% correct and every fan should be applauding him.