Well, that’s a turn up for the books! All this speculation about Emery not wanting Mesut Ozil in the Arsenal team seems to be true, with the BBC’s David Ornstein (considered to be the oracle on all things Arsenal) stating that the Spaniard has actually told Ozil that he should go.
This is what Ornstein was quoted as saying on 5Live (an exact transcript according to Arseblog apparently) when asked about the Ozil rumours… “They’re not just rumours. Unai Emery has suggested to Mesut Ozil that it would be best for him to leave the club. And the hierarchy of the club feels that they would like him to move on.
“I think that’s mainly financially driven for a player earning £350,000 per week but also related to that is the fact he is not performing anywhere near the level when he has played on a consistent basis as we know he can produce from the past.
“He has no desire to leave, Mesut Ozil, so he won’t be leaving in the January transfer window. I’m told he’s working extremely hard to get himself fit. Reports coming out of London Colney is that he’s now doing extra gym work and he has a positive demeanour. He’s determined to work his way back into the side.
“The word was he wasn’t doing a lot of the extra work most players were, and he is now. I’ve heard positive things about his behaviour, his commitment, his relationships with the teammates.
“I don’t think that’s ever been a problem, but he’s clearly out of favour with the manager and that’s a very expensive problem for the club to have.”
So it is not all just backaches and knee problems, and it appears there is a real problem between the manager and our highest paid player. It probably didn’t help that Ozil’s agent came out and said that his client loved Arsenal and actually hoped that would be staying on after his current contract ended.
I bet that went down well!
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But according to Sky Sports, Emery said Ozil is still in his plans and expects Ozil to be fit to face Chelsea
I believe Emery would not be that careless to say about Ozil’s exclusion on the media or in front of Ozil himself. Emery surely knows that Ozil’s contract made him almost impossible to be shipped out forcefully and there seems to be no other club is willing to pay Ozil’s huge salary
Petit said Ozil is just waiting for his retirement though and Ozil’s contributions in the field showed that Petit might be correct
350k per week….hes set of life…..
majority of the fans dont even make 350k a year
If we lose Sven , we are gonna get finished , Sven is our only hope for the future and fans need to show their support of him on saturday , we as fans should show the club that we are not happy with Sven leaving the club , if we do this together in the next few matches at the stadium then their might still be a chance for us. #KroenkeOut
Arsenal can’t do anything if Bayern offer Sven bigger salary or a better life in Germany
There are a lot of “if”s but we as fans should participate more rather than being only an observer , we can talk about how much we want Arsenal to have a great future but our desire is not enough to make it happen , we should act more , by showing our support for Sven on saturday match we have shown the club what we want , it might not work and Sven still leaves but at least we have tried .
The people that are running the club are big egos that only care about money and the decisions they make (like Sven leaving) are not compatible with what we want from the club , so maybe the future of the club is based on the moment that Sven decides whether to stay or leave , and what he decides may change our future , we as fans should act and try our best to make Sven stay.
Bayern have one of those technical directors.
I like that comment, I would love to see AFC fans show him support and things to be smoothed over.
He hasn’t left yet, so the board must be trying to convince him to stay, no announcement on any of it yet, one way or the other
JustMe,
I disagree with you where did Sven coached before?
Barcelona and Madrid don’t have the so called “techinical director” they just pick right players and they have been exchanging European Championship every other year.
like Petit put it out, Emery needs fully control to decide which player coming in and out.
technical director not necessary guarentee you success good example was Totenham few years ago when mr. pleat was in charge and that caused problem after problem and its the same problem forced Sven out of BD between him and Tuchel.
Sven has a proven record , we don’t have Barca or Madrid’s money and the only reason that Dortmund has survived the last few years with their limited budget was because of Sven , he got them players like Lewa , Auba , Kagawa , Hummels and etc.
But the bucks stop with Emery has just taken over lets just rally behind him, while at Seville he won 3 Europa cup with almost no budget compare to arsenal by the way we will have money this coming summer from Adidas, with Sanllehi contacts in football World we will start to look like a big club again in football.
In the past a lot of mistakes were made in recruitment side and kept faith in a lot of average players in bigger weekly wage or bring in players and send them out on loan instead of bring in players who could walk in and help 1st team straghtaway.
The manager should be able to work with a technical director, and vice versa. If they can’t manage to use each others knowledge, each others talents, then how can they expect to run any department within the club.
Gutted
Because a hack said it we all believe it do we? Funny how Emery talked the complete opposite in his press conference this afternoon.
Not everyone sees him (Ornstein) the same way as you do. That aside, there is plenty to suggest this was the case before Ornstein spoke here. The fact the manager doesn’t seem to trust him in big games (why wouldn’t Ozil try harder now?). The fact that this season our physical abilities have upped a notch, but Ozil has his style and he stuck to it. Chose to post a picture of himself training, and mentioning hard work – Personally I believed it had a double meaning that, but not sure whether he was being sarcastic or if he was letting us and the boss know that he’s gonna work harder to get into the side from now on. That is what I thought at the time of post, but now that Ornstein says this, I now believe Ozil was not being sarcastic. The injuries cropping up out of nowhere, even the manager said at one time, well that must be the case then, and said that he’ll have to wait til he sees him (or something similar) He seemed to throw his own doubt onto it. The fact that Ozil came out and said that he isn’t looking for a loan in Jan, sort of gives the rumours that we’re looking to offload him, gives them validity. He didn’t say it is all nonsense, which is what he says when things are fabricated. Teammates and staff members, some of our fans do be acting like they expect them to throw each under the bus out in public. Very rarely you’ll get an upstart, and the money in football these days means we see less and less of that. Managers, Mourinho is the only one I really know of, who has no problem throwing a player under the bus, but even he will have his limits, he’ll keep it to performance on the day.
Exactly.
What’s the saying?
Straight from the horses mouth…yes that’s the one.
Thank goodness that UE has laid this current media misrepresentation of AFC and it’s business to bed.
Next rumour please..by the way TH14, what happened to your insider information regarding Suarez signing?
I have nothing to say Ken
That is unheard of ??
Smh..I have nothing to say
Arsenal made a mistake by offering Ozil such a huge Salary which he surely doesn’t deserve. Unfortunately,most arsenal players are actually overpayed.This has limited our Chances of improving the team with quality additions because somehow our budget is depleted by over paying this below average players.Add this to the regime of this miser called Stan and the future is all gloom.
All we can do is hope that something changes soon,we be able to ship out this dead wood players and that Stan sees the need to invest in the club.Or else we are in big trouble.
Arsenal made a mistake by offering Ozil…. how many times do I have to read this before it becomes the truth ????
How many hardworking players do Emery have in his team.
It’s a strange one with Ozil. On one hand he is a great player but on the other he massively lacks in attitude. A player of his quality should be front and center of everything that we do and be our main focal point for everything – but quite often the opposite is true. I remember one commentator commented on Lallana and how he decorates games – meaning that he is nice and pretty on the ball but this is done on the outskirts of the game. I feel this term can be applied to Ozil. Every now and then he is sublime but more often than not he plays on the periphery with the odd neat touch here and there but nothing more than that. We need to somehow motivate Ozil so that he somehow gains that edge and that aggression to grab the game by the scruff of it’s neck
It’s a massive conundrum the manager needs to solve. We will not be able to shift him due to his wages and length of his contract so we need to find a way to light a fire under his arse so he does become our talisman and steps up to take more responsibility on the pitch because we all know that on his day that he is capable of tearing up any one.
I’m a huge Ozil fan and hope that somehow we can get him firing on all cylinders and somehow Emery does find the magic formula to unlock his best performances because I do think we are stuck with him for a long time and can not have someone on his money rotting on the bench.
will, a well written post.
The issue with Mezut Ozil this season has been his lack of availabilty due to injury. How can a coach/manager plan for the next match, let alone build a team around Ozil, when you don’t know whether he will come down with a back spasm or knee problem?
Mezut Ozil doesnt help himself when his words about his commitment to the Club and showing Emery he should be picked, doesn’t align with his actions, such as avoiding additional training and non availabilty for games.
I am just glad that what some of us so called “Ozil Haters” have been advocating for season after season is being about Ozil is being justified.
We were labelled as Hater ls of Football all because we have been asking for much more and much better from Ozil.
Someone just wrote something on another Arsenal fans forum that made me sit up.
Ozil was forced out of Madrid. At the age of 24-25 when he is meant to be at his peak Madrid and Ancelotti did not want him. Not a single big club came in for him.
Has his best best season (Assists-wise) 19 Assist and still not even a rumour about any big club being interested.
Runs down his contract and still no interest from other big clubs. Only Chinese clubs interested.
Forced out of the German National team.
It looks like he is being forced out by even Arsenal.
What an indictment.
And may be we the critics have been right all along. We are critics rather than “Haters”.
@Goonster
Yeah, and that man Anceloti are also sacked by Madrid and Bayern. Well, I mean try to be more objective. If Ozil that bad, Mourinho, Arsene Wenger, and Joachim Low will not make him their key player. Have respect for them because they are arguably world class managers. And didn’t you read it, or you just put it the way you want it? Low had tried several times to meet Ozil in Arsenal but he didn’t response. Is that what you understand with the phrase ‘forced out? And lastly, do you think it’s just coincidence that after the last FA trophy in 2005 Arsenal couldn’t get it again, even with Cazorla. Rosicky, Van Persiie or whoever great names you admire, but then 3 trophies in 2014, 15 and 17 since Ozil came? Or perhaps the fans should wait and see. If Arsenal can win the FA or European league, which should be considered Arsenal realistic target for the trophies, in say less than 5 years after Ozil gone, then you can say that Ozil has nothing to do with Arsenal winning those 3 trophies in 4 years after 9 years wihout any trophy.
Wenger created so called “Ozil Haters” by giving an inconsistent cam £300,000+ per week.
They aren’t even Ozil Haters. They hate the idea that a player who wouldn’t make the starting line-up of the other teams in the top 6 and is inconsistent here makes a ridiculous amount of money that could be used for better players.
We aren’t a RICH CLUB! We can’t afford mistakes like that. We have a Budget!
At the start of the season, Ozil was on a low point with the national team, he was in need of support to overcome those personal issues.
Emery appeared to recognise this with some of what he was saying.
Instead of backing Ozil, pointing out the troubles he was overcoming, he threw Ozil under the bus like Jose does. Fans have jumped on this as it justifies the lazy tag that gets thrown at him due to his appearance, ignoring how much he does run but highlight how he isn’t a sprinter… therefore, lazy.
Despite being thrown under the bus by the manager after the issues with the national team and supporters slating him, Ozil now looks to be out of the worst, he is training hard and fighting to remain part of Arsenal. His current actions of hard work in the gym are backing his statement of wanting to stay with Arsenal.
Are we not lucky to have such a talented player want to stay with us, even though the current manager has questioned him time and time again along with prejudice fans.
exactly….we need to support our players…
this is not fifa19 where players are not affected by emotions, climate and etc….
The issue is that Mezut Ozil is contracted to Arsenal FC. If he can’t be sold and Arsenal is p.aying his wages, it is up to him to prove the critics wrong and show the manager he should be picked.If he offers something to the team he should be playing. If he is played and doesn’t perform to his potential, Ozil risks destroying his legacy and reputation and will be seen simply as a mercenary.
Such emotional and OTT language, “thrown under the bus”!! Hardly a considered and moderate statement is it! EMERY MERELY DOES NOT WANT LAZY PLAYERS IN OUR SHIRT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? OF COURSE , U NLESS YOU CHOOSE TO DENY THE OBVIOUS TRUTH THAT HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN LAZY AND IS NOT COASTING. HE NO LONGER HAS ANY REAL AMBITION AND ON £300-350K PW and at 30 years old , enjoying the benefits of London life with all that money, he is just conning us fans. Emery refuses to be conned, as he should refuse. Sensible I call it but you choose to call it “throwing under the bus” Hmmn!
jon fox,
I strongly agree with you and that’s where some people in this forum miss that big point you just stated
I apologize to anyone who’s been effected by a death due to traffic dangers or suicide. Personally, I have felt losses from both those type incidents. I do use the saying, without thinking of how it can be interpreted or twisted. Apologies Enagic and Jon, esp to you Jon, who in a long life must have some very sore memories.
Jon Fox, Emery doesn’t work with lazy players, who’s more hardworking between lacazette and auba, who’s had more minutes?
Who’s more hardworking between Elneny and Xhaka, who’s had more minutes?
We are discussing Ozil, our most talented player and who SHOULD therefore be our most influential but he clearly is not. Through laziness. Why muddy the water and effectively change the subject with your irrelevant post? If it helps, I agree that Auba works far less hard than Laca and also think that it is tragedy that both Elneny and Xhaka have had even ONE single minute between them, since both are dreadful but that is beside MY point. Do keep to the point in hand, PLEASE!!!
Will you have summed up the situation perfectly.To have any hope of setting Ozil alight Emery needs to revert a 4-2-3-1 system asap.
it took Dortmund 5 years to rebuild….finishing 6th, 7th and even 13th position and now they are likely to win the title just like Liverfool….
fans are too impatient…
I’m starting to wonder what’s the difference between wenger and Emery same ? another day
Wenger we will only buy player who are quality
Emery we can only loan players
Same result
I feel sorry for the fans who still believe this ?
I hope the manager gives Ozil a run of games as a 10 with torreira sitting behind him. If he doesn’t improve after several games, then bench him and it will be justified. But to leave him out and give a “tactical reasons” bullshit excuse makes Emery look petty and deserving of being fired by PSG. Hope he realizes what he got into when he agreed to coach Arsenal.
Fans are highly critical, and it’s their right. You don’t have to agree with them, but to suggest or tell someone how they should support the team is supreme arrogance. I’m unaware of any amendments, books, laws, or legal rules describing exactly how a supporter should behave.
Personally, if I lived in England and could afford season tickets or had them, damn right I would support as I saw fit. You pay your hard-earned money, and some muppet tells you what you should say, or how you should respond to your teams performances?
I much prefer the individuality of our supporters and the lively debates that ensues, rather than a myopic and sheep-like following some would rather see.
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Fingers crossed…and please take Mustafi, and Xhaka with you…please!!!!
? is that all? Are you sure? Haha!
There’s lots more believe me, but most of the other deadwood are leaving on free at the end of season, but we do need some players for selection. Haha!
I wish we could just rewind 15 years. I used to take pride wearing my Arsenal tops, but now they’re just confined to the bottom of my cupboard…in an old bin liner…with dust on it.
I know what you mean… sometimes I can’t bring myself to even look at mine let alone wear any of them ? sad I know!!
You never know 15 years down the line we might be that good again… anyway I don’t expect this sort of talk from you – you’re always so upbeat… apart from when you’re talking about Ozil ?
I’m going through the motions now.. I’m finally over the West Ham loss, am actually looking forward to Saturday now…. Will my hopes be dashed?? Well I’m going to put everything breakable out of reach just in case!!
Yeah Ozil has become the new divisive figure for us all to debate. We’re Arsenal fans…we have to be complaining about something! Haha!
I am a little more upbeat with a new regime, and a lot of the deadwood are quickly being moved on, but I just can’t stand to give the club any money whilst Kroenke is there, and I haven’t for years. We have such a horrible owner, it’s depressing! I remember being in the Arsenal shop about 4 years ago, and I got my friend Arsenal Monopoly I think it was, and even then, I couldn’t bring myself to pay for it…so I got my girlfriend to buy it. Haha!
You got your girlfriend to buy it?! ??
I agree about Stan though.. doubt he’ll be going anytime soon – so you’ll have to make sure your girlfriend is with you whenever you venture to the Armoury again ?
Hopefully my Australian visa should come through before the end of the year, so I doubt I’ll be anywhere near the Emirates for a very long time…and sad thing is, I don’t even care. Kroenke has taken the love out of supporting Arsenal for so long now. I know I have had a go at Wenger a lot, but I also felt sorry him that he’s had arguably the worst owner you could imagine for just over the last decade.
Can’t be bad!
ThirdManJW, you won’t regret the move. A lot easier, much more developed country than when my forebears came out! As jon fox now knows we even have electricity.
Dont forget to contact me (get my email from Admin) so we can catch, depending on where you are living.
Ok cheers will do. Yeah I’ll be in Sydney, most likely.
I love letting people know that I’m an Arsenal fan, I always feel some pride when I throw on my Jersey or Jacket, or baseball cap I used to go everywhere with that. Where I’m from, in school it was mostly all Liv at my end, then Manu would be the second most popular. In the entire school, there were two AFC fans, we ended up good mates. Then when Arsenal hit their pomp, I’d see loads of AFC fans all of a sudden, half the bookmakers customers would be red & white.
Ozil is our best player. If Emery won’t play him, get rid of Emery.
So we are still mucking around trying to sign Suarez while spurs are aparantly in negotiations with Barca for Malcom!
I saw he was on the bench for Barca tonight.. reckon we’ll screw that ‘deal’ up Declan? Probably ?
Arsenal beat spurs 5-2 in the FA Youth Cup tonight and Saka scored again.
Brilliant!! What a player Saka is! Mertesacker missed it – he was at an NBA match ?
To all who have posted, a lot of you are missing the point. Ozil was never a player that runs all over the pitch. He never did it at Real Madrid when he was young, so why do all of you think that he is gonna start running at age thirty. Ozil along with Sanchez should have been sold two years ago. During that time i have always mentained that our two best players are our two worst players. Ozil believed that he was technically superior to the rest of the team,and whenever anything didn’t work he showed is disinterest, Sanchez on the other hand is a tireless worker, but whenever things didn’t work he wanted to play hero ball, one man against the world. Our new coach is not blameless, because the last regime left a team that was no good, and everybody that was interview for the new coaching position , told the board that they would have to spend money to get a competitive team.If you all remembered Mikel Arteta was the person who was the favorite to land the position, and he went in and told them that this team is a lemon, and we need players. Emery went in with his attention to details and woo the board by telling them that he can squeeze champagne out of this lemon. This is not an Ozil problem, with better players around him Ozil will perform. People this team is just not good
Ozil is technically superior to anyone on this team. But I agree with you that Emery is so stuck on his ideas that he is failing to do what a truly GREAT MANAGER does well:ADJUST TO THE PLAYERS STRENGTHS