At some point—most likely at the end of the season—I will be reviewing the various outlets that provide football content.
However, while watching Wednesday’s Champions League tie, TNT’s presentation was so poor it could not be ignored.
To begin with, viewers were left wondering why the official was walking over to the monitor, with the commentators unable to fill in the gaps—you know, like they are paid to do!
Then, despite VAR taking minutes to review two penalty claims, none of the commentators were willing to take a firm stance on whether a foul had occurred. Two out of three of them were ex-footballers—again, that is literally their job!
Then came the full-time analysis…
It is understandable why broadcasters like to invite representation from both teams involved. Of course, Steve McManaman was always going to be disappointed after watching Real Madrid get knocked out of the competition they are champions of.
While not quite the legend he believes himself to be in Spain, he does understand the standards of the club, the pressure of the badge, the expectations of the fans, and he has insight into how the media will respond.

He wanted to stress that Arsenal had only won a quarter-final and that the victory would mean nothing if the team did not now go on to lift the trophy. While I do not agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and there will be those who share his point of view.
The issue was that the pundit repeated the same point over and over again, even appearing frustrated with the rest of the panel for giving the Gunners credit. He seemed more annoyed by the defeat of his former employers and allowed this to influence his analysis.
The problem with this is that there are Gooners who pay above the odds for their subscriptions, and therefore have a right to expect that a historic night for their club is reported properly.
Remarks such as “We have been here before with Arsenal” undermine the significance of what our young squad achieved. This is only the third time we have progressed this far in the Champions League.
Even if we do not reach the final in Munich, Wednesday clearly marked a mature performance—one that Arsenal would not have been capable of producing just a few years ago.
The Bernabéu will be an experience that this group, if kept together, can use to grow. They left the Spanish capital mentally tougher.
Remember, McManaman is not doing TNT a favour. He did not happen to be walking around the stadium and agree to stop for a chat.
He was paid thousands of pounds to present coverage, fully aware that Gooners were the target audience, and yet he downplayed the achievement.
It would be easier to accept had this not been the former midfielder’s prediction before the first leg, as quoted by MSN:
“The big thing about Arsenal is […] they haven’t got a centre forward to do damage and that will always hinder them.
The second leg is in Madrid and we have seen over the last few years that if they are in the game after the first leg they will get it done at home.”
The 53-year-old was not alone in that view. But what you cannot do is make Real Madrid favourites due to their European pedigree and then dismiss a 5-1 aggregate loss.
There is a reason so many were nervous about defending a 3-0 lead—because it is in Real Madrid’s DNA to find a way to survive at this level.
Since Thursday morning, however, Real Madrid have apparently become just a group of individuals, Carlo Ancelotti is suddenly considered past his best, and the squad is deemed to be ageing.
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Poor Mcmanan, his judgment was clouded, by his love for his former club,
His biasness was there for sure, but he doesn’t understand Arsenal knocking out Real Madrid is healthy for the competition.
Just look at PSG in France, it’s a one club competition, certainly that does not argue well for the league.
Hasnt the Prem been a one club competition this season?
🙄. It’s hardly par for the course is it?
Yes lol
One team has dominated the Prem before this season winning 6 out of 7 titles
In those seasons at best one club challenged ?
Exactly what you claim happens in La Liga
In the history of La Liga in 5th place it was Valencia with 6, 4th place its Athletic Bilbao with 8, 3rd is Atletico Madrid with 11, Barcelona in 2nd with 27 and Real Madrid with 36. In addition Barcelona came 2nd 28 times and RM had 25. I call that a 2 horse race over about 85 years of competition
My point is that our league is a more open competition as I have mentioned to you in from another article. The fact that City have had a period of dominance in recent times does not mean our league is a one horse race. If you had made it clear in the first place that you were only referring to this season then that is another matter and obvious really.
Well yes
The comparison is with the current Real Madrid squad
I made the point their squad has been more successful then ours
Your essentially saying to be fair it’s easier to win La Liga as it’s not competitive
So I’m simply pointing out that in recent years La Liga is more competitive title race then Prem
Especially this season
The premier league can not be seen as a one club league, this season have a weird feeling as if no team really wanted it, leaving the leader to runaway in shock.
I remembered a couple seasons back ,Van Dyke was available, Man City was interested but the argument in a certain circle was wherever he goes it must not be Man City else the league could effectively become a one club league as PSG in France.
So Liverpool step in and the rest is history
Yeah so only one team competed
La Liga title race more competitive
Again we are mocking Madrid for competing in their league saying there is zero competition yet we have failed to challenge for our own league
That’s why this trying to belittle Madrid doesn’t work
This is a one off season Dan.
Not sure I like the term mocking or belittle.
We are critical of the way they do things, it’s not good for the modern game and Secondly buying players for those huge sums to warm bench is not sustainable.
Not sustainable?
Have you seen how much they have won in the last few years ?
How’s it a one off
Before this we have had the same team always win in 6 out of 7 years
pointless arguing as you are fixed on a particular time zone, which occasionally moves when it suits.
sorry gunsmoke, replied to you by mistake
No your trying to get involved and trip me up
Gunsmoke point was Real win things and Arsenal don’t because La Liga is easier to win
Essentially saying Bellingham has more medals then say a Saka because it’s less competitive
So I compare and Real Madrid ( if win game in hand ) go 4 points behind Barca with them still to face each other
If Athletic win they are 3 back so 7 points would separate the top 3
You say the Prem.is more competitive
Liverpool are 13 points clear and coasting
So you then say that’s a one off
Okay so before this season Man City have factually won 6 out of 7 titles
So Spain where its not as competitive you claim in the same period have had 3 different winners to the Prem 2
Who is belittling Madrid? If they weren’t any good they wouldn’t win the CL as often as they have would they? It is worth adding that whilst Barcelona haven’t come close to RM, but they have won the CL 5 times which rather adds weight to my opinion and both clubs are the only Spanish teams to have won it which adds further weight to my opinion. Just because I disagree with you about the competitive nature of La Liga, it doesn’t mean that the top2 are not of a very high standard.
It’s an open secret the English Premier league is the most competitive league in the world, not what point Dan is trying to make
No your trying to downplay what Real Madrid have done saying it’s not a competitive league to almost excuse Arsenal failures
Your trying to say at Real you only win the title because it’s not competitive
That’s simply not true
The Prem is more competitive in general / the whole league
But In terms of a title race Real Madrid compete with Barca and sometimes A Madrid
You won’t find a Real Madrid or Barca winning 6 out of the last 7 titles
Real are not 13 points clear like Liverpool are
Are you kidding? Seriously?
They are a two horse league and the top 2 are outstanding examples of high quality. I have never said they weren’t It is you digressing from the point
The rest of the league, bar AM , are not. They pop up here and there, but not in any great way – look at Wikipedia.
As for Arsenal’s failures, what have they got to do with the top end of la Liga? Zilch. Lord knows why you are doing your utmost to connect Arsenal and the rest of the league not mounting a challenge this year, against the regular winners of la Liga (RM and Barca) who do just that – share it out between them?
That’s what I said
The rest of the league is not as competitive but In terms of the title race this current Real Madrid compared to Arteta Arsenal time frame have more competitive title races
That’s factual
In England 6 of the last 7 titles races were won by one team
In La Liga you have had 3 champions in that spell
Go look at the title race in Spain.
Real beat Barca they are one point behind
We beat Liverpool it’s 10
Exactly , the top two/ 3 are more competitive then the Prem since Arteta arrived at Arsenal
That’s a fact
I do laugh, when people say the Spanish and German leagues are not the quality of the prem. Look at the CL winners and the invaluably come from Spain and Germany, in that order. The most expensive players go there also.
@Reggie,
Nobody is saying that those leagues do not have quality, but what is being missed here is that Real and Barcelona in particular are in a league of their own, otherwise other teams would be winning as well.
Don’t forget Athletico? What about our league?Man City and AN other.
Maybe, the reason Real and Barca win most things in the Spanish league is because they win most things in Europe as well. Just better than anyone.
Shame on u McManaman – I wonder what punditry he would have given if RM had knocked us out. On the bright side though, he’s been humbled. Another person who should be ashamed of himself is Van der vaart.
He is entitled to his opinion and his opinion does not change or affect anything.
Let Arteta and the boys just concentrate on beating PSG and make further progress.
That is what matters.
Partey’s absence is what is troubling me. Hopefully Arteta can come up with a good solution to replace him for the first leg.
I didn’t listen too closely to SM but did hear him stress that Arsenal need to win the trophy rather than get too triggered by beating Real Madrid. It’s not the end of the journey yet, but still a result that is not to be sneezed at. Far from it
The article’s overall perspective is probably right. McManaman was unnecessarily downplaying the importance of the result against RM.
Despite what some are now trying to suggest I suspect no other team, with the possible exception of Barcelona, would have wanted to face Real Madrid at this stage of the competition. Some of our own fans were worried that we would get clobbered by RM.
Most scouse pundits associated with Liverpool are biased to other clubs. But he was right when he said Arsenal had to go on to win the thing. Otherwise it would mean nothing in real terms. If we fail to follow-up the great win, that is all it would be in reality, a great knockout win in a cup competition. I agree with him on that. Lets get a trophy, not just a good win.
Well most of these pundits are sh!t and sometimes do take things personal rather than give a fair analysis of the game.
The other one is Van de Vaart, the former Tottenham player he said I qoute.
“Saka overestimated himself with that penalty,”. “It’s like he’s saying, ‘Look at me, I’m the star of the show!’ No, you’re not – you’re just a regular player who has to work hard every day. What you did is disgraceful.”
He added: “You think you’re a superstar, but you don’t belong there.”
I think He went overboard with criticism of Saka there.
That sounds like a man with a huge chip on his shoulders
💯 Bitter
Thanks Oyama for letting us know the Spursy punditry as he used to play for Spurs. Nothing but jealousy. Just punish these type of so called pundits by winning the trophy so that they walk out head down from the studio before the match ends.
Agreed @Ambachew the best way to silence them is to win the trophy 🏆
LIVE! The Romanian ref very harsh with her decisions on Arsenal Women v Lyon. What is the issue to get hurt unfairly at home turf? Is she enlisted with Howard Webb’s PGMOL?
Maybe we should start thinking of some sort of a refresher program for the Englishman
“The Englishman”….. why not use his name rather than his nationality?
Point taken GB
Respect to you 👍
Martin Keown isn’t biased at all, is he 🤔
Only towards Arsenal 😃
Wonderful observation Dan and your argument is really not unidimensional as Mcmanaman was. You’re so logical Dan rather worrying for the reputation of Mcmanan not to be tarnished by his repetitive reckless illogical remarks. He did it several times so not a forgivable slip of the tongue. Pure old school jealousy because Liverpool were eliminated and hoped same fate for Arsenal. He’s just a pundit but what really worries me is there surely are covert refs with this mentality seeking the failure of Arsenal as we learnt from the stories of the now banned EPL ref. If you track his club mate Owen also bluffs in relation to stuffs with Arsenal. The 15 times UCL winners need no favours from pundits as Arsenal’s win would rather has the power of inspiring English youth to fulfilling their dreams in continental competitions. Sorry some jealousies maybe life long and incurable!
In the cold light of day, regardless of who says it, we do need to win something soon. We don’t need a pundit to tell us that.
We don’t!!!!!!!
Arsenal really need to win Europe most prestigious cup,
It would smooth a lot of ruffled feathers
The success of the restructured PSG team has shown that the time of the galactico’s teams has had its day!
The devastating performance by Arsenal has only re-inforced that truth!!!
I think, if they were any good, this is what the over-the-hill bunch of pundits should have been discussing!!
JBG5, well put. The cold light of day is a hard place and as you say, we don’t need a so called pundit, mostly people who can’t get a job outside of football to tell us the obvious.
@Reggie
My point throughout has been that Barcelona and RM are the standout clubs and have been for over 80 years. It doesn’t come in cycles other than between the two clubs. At present, City have cleaned up. Before that and twice during the SAF years ManU did the same. Nowhere in the history of English football have 2 teams been so dominant. Arsenal have had spells, Liverpool and Chelsea too. If you can be bothered, look at the posts above I’ve made regarding the stranglehold that those 2 clubs enjoy.
AM are the best of the rest but do not seriously compete on a regular basis although they are frequently 3rd. According to an article I’ve just read, a Madrid club and Barcelona have won every year since 2003/4 ( Valencia) and surprisingly AM have won twice since then having done better in cup competitions
I’ll grant you that the list of English winners isn’t a long one but since 1945 ManU have won 18 , Liverpool 15, Arsenal 8, City 9, Everton 4, Chelsea 6, Leeds & Wolves 3, Tottenham, Derby and Portsmouth 2. I’ve not counted 1x winners.
The difference is that although the big hitters make up the bulk of successes in terms of finishing first or second there are many different teams that have finished as runners up. A few Examples being since 1945-:
West Brom, Preston NE, Blackpool, Burnley, QPR, Forest, Ipswich
You can tell it’s a quiet Sunday morning in the Midlands
That wasnt the original point though Sue
It was implied that if you win medals at Real Madrid it’s not that impressive becasue La Liga title race is not competitive
So I simply pointed that you don’t in Spain get one Champion constantly ( City 6 out of 7 seasons ) that you do in England
I then pointed out that the tile race in Spain is currently more competitive then England
You keep saying but only three teams in Spain win it but is England that different ?
Arsenal don’t win titles
Man United haven’t in decades
Chelsea what 8 years now ?
So we have had 8 years of City 6 tiles , Liverpool 2
In that period Real and Barca go head to head while A Madrid compete as well
Personally, I would say the Spanish league is as competitive and good as the prem, probably better. Spanish teams, win more European trophies and Spain are currently the European champions and many of their players play in Spain. The Premier league just spends more money.
I think it is very tunnel vision by people who say the prem is the best league in the world. I would say, it is one of a few.
Why do you like putting words in one’s mouth……. Looking at the thread above, neither sue p nor gun smoke mention what you’re using against them…..
And not the first time you’re doing that…give it a rest bro
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That’s how I see it Sue – many of the Euro leagues are a bit of a closed shop. One or two clubs win most of the silverware.
That means constantly being in the CL and with the money that brings they can buy top players. £80m or so a year at current prices – makes a big difference.
Also, being the top dogs in their own back yard makes it easy for them to attract the domestic talent.
The PL (and the old First Division) offers no guarantees for anybody – over time. That’s the key point, over time. Whatever short-term dominance a club might have, staying there is harder, which makes it harder to be a top club on the world stage because the money won’t keep coming in to the same extent as it does for the one or two top clubs in countries like Spain, France etc.
Like in England