Long-term readers will know I am not the type to make excuses for the team’s failings.
For clarification, this article should not be interpreted as taking anything away from the Toon Army. They deserve their place at Wembley, having been the better team over 180 minutes, with their keeper rarely needing to make great saves.
To be fair to my Gooners, this topic has been a long-standing complaint whenever they visit Tyneside—it is not exclusive to Wednesday night. We are also not the only visitors to have raised this grievance. A two-legged tie simply provides a convenient time to highlight the difference in how Newcastle treat their guests compared to how Geordies are accommodated on their travels.
Domestic cups usually allow a higher allocation for away fans. I made the point when the semi-final draw was made: approximately 60,000 at the Emirates were never going to create as hostile an atmosphere as we encountered at St James’ Park. This is a shame, as one of the best things Arteta has done as manager is to foster a strong atmosphere at our stadium—though this season, that has been more selective.
What did not help our chances was that our seating plan was far more cooperative than that of our opponents. Those familiar with the layout of our ground will know the away end is traditionally in the corner, but for the FA and Carabao Cups, if needed, away supporters essentially have access to the entire lower tier behind the goal. This makes them impossible to miss and, more importantly, ensures they are heard. The minority were so much louder a few weeks ago that you could clearly hear the song they were singing about Partey. That should not happen when the majority has such a numerical advantage.
On the Toon, however, the entire bottom and middle sections are dedicated to Magpies supporters. If you are representing the away side, you are not just in the upper tier but as high up as possible—and not across the whole stand either. You are cornered in, to the extent that it almost feels like there is a deliberate plan to create visual discomfort.
It is such a shame. In the UK, Newcastle is my favourite city—the people are so friendly—yet some are reporting it as their worst away day. From an entertainment perspective, following your team on the road is expensive. On a midweek fixture, when factoring in the cost of a ticket, travel, and possibly taking the next day off work due to the late return, the very least you deserve is a decent view of the match.
In 2025, that should be standard. Like any business, the priority is to maximise revenue, but equally, if a customer invests in a product, they should receive the best possible experience. There is no denying that the Gunners, chasing a 2-0 deficit on Wednesday, could only have been helped if, for instance, when winning a corner, they could see and hear their own fans urging them on.
There have also long been complaints about elderly fans (not just ours) having to walk up so many stairs. To be fair, St James’ Park was opened in 1892, so unlike more modern stadiums, it has had to adapt to changing regulations over time. If they were constructing a new venue today, certain criteria could be accounted for. The last redevelopment of the stadium was in the year 2000.
The Premier League does, in fact, have rules and regulations that support many of these concerns. In 2017, when Newcastle were in the Championship, top-flight bosses introduced a policy requiring at least a portion of away fans to be seated at ground level at the request of TV companies. A one-year dispensation was granted to allow the club time to rearrange their seating layout.
Newcastle, however, consulted with their local authority, emergency services, and independent safety consultants, all of whom testified that Level 7 of the Leazes Stand is the safest option. The club argues that any other arrangement would increase risk, with the current setup minimising interaction between home and away fans, particularly when entering and exiting the turnstiles.
The League has not challenged this since, seemingly because they believe they would not have a lawful case.
So, sorry, Gooners—sitting in the sky is not going to change anytime soon.
ADMIN COMMENT
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Maybe that’s the reason why they also beat us at the Emirates.
I normally look at our team and wonder. It pains me when it seems like it’s so near winning silverware yet it is still too far.
Will we ever do the right thing at the right time and have a season we will confidently be able to compete and win or will we forever find excuses to mask incompetence?
This season is turning out just the way I envisaged, that we will fall short because of our thin imbalanced squad and a poor front line.How this can’t be addressed is hard to understand.
Like why did we keep Tierney who is not going to play under Arteta through the January window when several clubs were interested in him?He will certainly leave on a free.Couldn’t we use his wages on a loan player to support us upfront?
Arsenal are victims of unfortunate circumstances. In 2023 and 2024, Arsenal were second in the league to a team (Man City) who are facing 130 charges of breaking the financial rules.
In 2025 Arsenal are second to Liverpool. The current Liverpool side are undoubtedly the best side in Europe but who saw this coming in August? They have gone from being a good side to world beaters without anyone noticing.
Arsenal picked probably the three worst years to seriously challenge for the title. The points tally and performances over this period would have won it in many other seasons.
Victims of owners who are ambitious
Simple.
@Pinner the only difference between Arsenal and Liverpool is the size,balance &squad depth of the 2teams.
You don’t find 5 International left backs at Liverpool, but that is what we have at Arsenal.
Who is to blame?
The match day ball of course!
We have 5 LBs because 3 are perennially injured – Tierney, Zinny, Calaufori and none will strike fear in the opposing RBs. So much that our hope is pinned on the shoulders of a very young MSL who has put to shame the 30M++ transfers.
And the irony of it all is that over the last three seasons, including the current one with 24 matches played – so 100 in total (Liverpool on 99), it’s Arsenal who sit top of the table – 2 points clear pf City.
Long ago recognized that our problem isn’t consistency, it’s consistency over one season rather than two parts of different seasons
Quick question, is that the area Pinner?
Newcastle is a dreadful ground for away fans. The location, up in the back of beyond in Tier 7, is awful. I for one won’t travel there any more. The PL need to step in. Alternatively, the away fans need to boycott St James Park. Maybe losing many thousands in gate receipts will make things happen.
Actually the home fans would love it if the away fans boycotted St James’ Park, A total boycott would then free up the 3,200 tickets allocated to the away teams in the PL. Any away tickets not taken up are sold to the 30,000 NUFC Members who are on the waiting list for season tickets via a ballot. I do however agree that the away fans should be situated at a lower level and I’m a Newcastle season ticket holder.
I’d take a season out of the champions league to see Arteta gone, what’s the point in being in a competition you have no chance of winning with a manager like him in charge? Arteta couldn’t win us the league when we were miles ahead a few years ago and just got done 4-0 over two legs to bloody Newcastle, hardly Real Madrid or Bayern Munich are they? Get rid of him at the end of the season regardless of where we end up finishing in the league.
I strongly believe more of the blame goes to Edu and Arteta before blaming Stan and Josh Kroenke.
65m for Havertz and 35m for Fabio Viera is 100m wasted.
That money would have been use to trigger the 85m pounds release clause of Viktor Gykores who is one of the hottest strikers in the world for the past 3 seasons and we would have won the league last season.
You don’t expect Stan and Josh Kroenke to go and scout the right players themselves and buy them when they pay a scout, sporting director and coach to do that work.
Edu and Arteta has been our problem for the past 3 years. Period.
Yeah well,,,,, Arsenal bottled and threw away two Premier League Titles two seasons running. You can’t base that on bad circumstances. Poor management more like it. Was an absolute piss poor display in the League Cup at Saint James Park, yet they get rewarded to a trip to Dubai. If the season ends up with no silverware, then heads need to roll. It’s been been the same old same old for years,,, no ambition whatsoever. Sick of the same lame old excuses year in year out. It’s got me beaten as to why people don’t have the balls to call it out as it is. Second place means you are the first to lose. I’m starting to realise why the Kronkes have Arteta on such a massive salary,,,,,,”it’s to PUT UP//SHUT UP”
Edu and Arteta has blown away huge funds.
I rate their overall signings for the past 5 seasons as 5.5/10.
Gyokeres to compete with Jesus would have stepped up the quality of the attack.
Xavi Simons who is a very versatile player and a very good dribbler would have been a good option for the wing, attacking midfield and central midfield.
Johan Bakayoko would have been a good and quality competition for Saka in the right wing.
If Edu and Arteta had bought these 3 players I just mentioned above our attack would have been sorted out and good to go by now.
The season is all gone now. Now it’s unto the summer.
Hopefully he gets his attacking signing right and go again for his 6th season and see what happens.
I suggest for Arteta’s contract not to be renewed if he doesn’t win a silverware and he should run down the remaining years and leave the club if he doesn’t win a cup.
Just hold them accountable for there decisions and transfers.
Ask Arteta why he has not brought in a top striker when it’s as obvious as the nose on your face. He has had years to bring one in; there have been options, there still are. Instead, he tries square pegs in round holes with Jesus and Havertz. Failed experiment, we have yet to move on.
How many years has it been and yet no backup for Saka? A mad dash on deadline day to bring in a faded and jaded version of Sterling.
But hey we got another LB and another DM type midfielder.
Come on people, we all know the reason we lost. Just listen to our great manager, It was the balls fault.
Don’t forget the mantra of some fans, in Arteta we trust.
I wonder if its wearing thin with any of those fans.
Not yet
😁
SueP,
Not even a little bit. 😁😉
Nope
Still keeping an open mind
Well
Said derek
You have to wonder what these Arteta fans and their MUSINGS have in common with being real Arsenal fans .
The likes of me and you want what’s best for the club ,some fans want what’s best for Arteta.
Odd balls TBF
When you have fans saying “I’m a massive Arteta fan “rather than “I’m a massive Arsenal fan “you have to wonder what their strange obsession with Arteta is .
You will always see the herd mentality with these types .
I would always say “cringe “but it’s got the stage now where it has be said “creeps “.
I truly think they feel they have to be positive for sake of it which makes their view have zero substance because you know they will just be positive
We could lose Trossard , Havertz Sterling and Martinelli for the whole season and they would still say ‘ well it’s not impossible we can’t win the title ‘
Diaz.
Gakpo. Szoboslai. Salah.
MacCallister. Gravernbach.
Robertson. Dijk. Konate. Arnold.
Allison.
SECOND TEAM –
Nunez.
Jota. Elliot. Chiesa.
Jones. Endo.
Tsimikas. Gomez. Quansah. Bradley.
Kelleher.
It’s clear to see that Liverpool got all their first team signings right.
And the second team has quality too.
And Klopp was responsible
Yes, that’s right @SueP
Klopp is a good coach.
Arteta is also a good coach too but he is learning on the job to the detriment of our beloved club.
I say he is good because the 50% of good players he has bought plus his tactics has brought us back to the Champions League and has competing for the EPL title for 3 straight seasons now.
He and whoever is charge of signing players should try and improve on their signing of players.
He was and Slot has been a worthy replacement
In the grand scheme of things Arteta has done well but has yet to prove he can live with the very best. Fingers crossed he can. It will make life easier
Yes, SueP. Hopefully Arteta finally crosses the finish line by winning a cup next year and proves to us the good coach that he is.
SJ,
He’s had 5 years and we’re still waiting. 🙄🤦♂️🤷♂️
Blame the Board Derek for hiring a first time manager, tasked with turning round 3 less than successful years. He hadn’t earned his spurs in a lower league and went straight into a senior premier league club.
Looking at Arteta now SueP,
I wish he had gone to spurs. 😂🤣😉👍
Really Derek? Exactly where are the spuds in the league right now? 😂👍😉
Yes SueP,
I can see where they are in the League. Just think where they’d be if he were there manager. 😂🤣😉👍
I’m not sure we are competing
That’s why they lost to Plymouth
Martinelli out for 2 months.
Bad news for our Champions League and EPL hopes.
Good news for Nwaneri as he will get more minutes.
I hope Arteta won’t start Sterling over him.
So those who said we didn’t need anyone ?
But it’s okay the Koronkes are making money
Oh dear Oh dear SJ,
That makes our January window look really good doesn’t it.
But Don’t worry, as we might win a cup next season.
Or maybe the season after that. Or maybe the season after that. Or maybe the season after that. Do you get my drift. 🙄🤦♂️🤷♂️
I believe the owners did not make cash available this January because they are pissed off with how much Arteta has spent and still has an unbalanced squad with no quality striker or quality replacements.
It might backfire on them if we crash out of the top 4.
Yet give him a new contract ?
It’s seems a bit odd that being up in level seven, where there are quite a few Newcastle fans as well, didn’t have a detrimental effect on Arsenal results at SJP prior to Howe turning up. They regularly won regardless of day, time, competition or amount of fans present. Maybe look closer to home for the real problem.