It looks like Arsenal have lapsed back into our depressing away form from last season and lacked any confidence or fight to cope with a well-organized West Ham side
Leno 6
Had absolutely no chance with the goal but otherwise played okay
Mustafi 5
Let’s hope he just lacked match fitness and will improve by next week!
Koscielny 6
Best game since his return. Hopefully will be ready for a big game against Chelsea
Sokratis 6
Also returning to his best. Fingers crossed we can get a settled defence at last.
Maitland-Niles 5
Not his best performance but came close to getting an equalizer.
Xhaka 4
Back to his usual mediocrity. Needs Torreira alongside him I think.
Guendouzi 5
He also needs Torreira and certainly shouldn’t be starting ahead of him. Not up to Prem speed yet in my eyes
Kolasinac 5
Tried to get forward and hopefully getting back to his best.
Iwobi 6
Nearly scored but as usual it was off target. Never a replacement for an Ozil even if the German is off form!
Lacazette 6
Our best striker and had a go but the force wasn’t with him.
Aubameyang 5
Definitely lost his scoring boots lately. An off-day that will not continue next week I hope!
Subs:
Ramsey/Torreira/Bellerin 6
I hope Emery was just resting these three ahead of Chelsea next week, but I think it was a big mistake starting all three on the bench. Sort it out Unai!
Admin
You may have missed one personnel
out in the blame game.I gather Steve Bould is still a defense coach and seeing as our defence has been a shambles for many a year surely he must shoulder some of the blame.
Emery is the head coach, in charge of the coaching, not Bould.
Emery is the one who picks the tactics which leave ourselves exposed, not Bould.
Emery is the one who picks Xhaka so much.
Ignore all that and go straight to Bould… wow.
To midkemma. I said SOME of the blame not all .
I don’t criticise other peoples opinions so try it sometime.
Then, what does Steve Bould (himself a grest CB for Arsenal and England) do to earn his money; advertise for Wrigley’s?
Koscielny heading the ball back into a dangerous area can’t be Emery’s fault. That has to be with the defense coach.
Juan Carlos Carceda is our head coach, he is in charge of defence, I remember hearing that defence was his main criteria. Bould is just another coach now, he’ll put them through drills, drills that Emery and Carceda have asked him to do. Or they’ll all work with certain players at different times, but tactics and how we organize or adapt, is up to the two Spaniards.
No need for anyone to blame Emery, or his coaching staff, because the majority of the squad is just not good enough.
Try eating soup with a fork, whilst you currently have no money for a spoon!
I could be wrong here, but I felt Leno’s positioning for that goal was really poor. The play was out on the left hand side, his left, then the shot came about quickly but Leno wasn’t anywhere near his near post. I’d like to hear a GK’s take on it, if the play had of been central, then I’d expect him to take up a similar position to the one he did take. Also, it looked like Rice only had one area to aim for, because players were blocking his path for the other corner.
It was some accuracy all the same, the ball was hardly moving, it looked slow motion in real time, but how he kept that down, it was a peach. I hear City are looking at Rice. Man of the match for sure yesterday, he was everywhere, if he had more goals in him he’d be a great replacement for Ramsey. Is he any good at creating? I could see that he’s an excellent defending midfielder, good at reading the play. He was everywhere in that game. That rumour about city wanting him came at a bad time for us, the boy was brimming, probably because of that.
Good post B.O.T. , I also though Leno was at fault, but not as much as a Xhaka!
But why Kos gave such poor header??
He could have turned it away to byline or turned it away for corner
It wasn’t Kos it was Xhaka
BOT, I have even commenting for a while that I have seriou concerns about Leno, you are correct his positioning on several occasions has been somewhat questionable, he struggles badly with crosses where he regularly flaps and is not dominant, his reflexes in relation to shot stopping is good, but I can’t see many other positives. Currently I believe Cech would be a better option as he does command the box and is generally more assured.
I know Unai’s hands are tied… no money for new players… so having to make do with what we have… but it’s all gone wrong.. the team selections, the tactics, no defending, no chances created…. I know the injuries haven’t helped, leaving Ozil out of the squad completely certainly hasn’t helped… the backwards & sideways passing has reared it’s ugly head once again… our away games hoodoo is back (did it really ever go?!)
I only watched the first half and was amazed at how many times we were dispossessed…we were poor (& it wasn’t just down to that crappy kit ?) I can’t even pick a motm…. if we carry on like this another thrashing is just around the corner!!
Iwobi man of the match, but only because of his first half performance. He had a good first half, created two wonderful chances which we should’ve got one of them, only Kolasinac passed it badly instead of having a go. He also got back and helped out defensively. Second half, I rarely seen him, but then he gets our best and only clear cut chance, he has to put that on target. He chose the right shot, far corner, really important moment, gutted when I seen it go wide.
Not even close to motm he pulled off one decent pass the whole game when he realeased kola .
Best player for me was Ramsey and he was only on the pitch 30 mins .like sue said we are back to playing them side and backwards passing again .
Maybe do a rating for the manager aswell because for me yesterday I would put the blame on .
7 defensive outfield players that leaves 3 attack minded players on the pitch that’s not good eneough when you’re playing a team that shouldn’t be anywhere close to us on that playing field .
Then we come to this ozil debate and what’s up with him and the manager ,in game Alan smith said that he he was back in training but they thought he wasnt ready ,but then emery comes out with it was for tactical reasons ,what tactical reasons is there for our most effective forward player to not even be on the bench let alone starting .
It’s clear we need 3 maybe 4 signings but from where I’m looking emery isn’t making the best of a bad situation .
And it’s was all going so well 4 weeks ago the players looked like there were playing for each other and enjoying it ,forward 4 weeks and we back looking like our old selves again.
AKA xxnofx
Iwobi was typical Iwobi though.
Some good runs but nothing came from them, his final ball is something that I was hoping Emery would be improving. Iwobi has more confidence to run at people which is good but he has always been able to run… he needs to be productive with it.
For me, our MotM was Kola, if only he had kept onside then he could have created our goals.. Not the bumbling Iwobi who dithers when it matters the most.
Midkemma Geez! tone it down, I’m a big critic of Iwobi but he was the best player on the pitch yesterday before Ramsey came in.. who fed Kola those neatly passes that got wasted and counted as off… Give the boy some break, he’s being asked to do a job he can’t do all on his own by the coach, in the last 3 games, he’s been our best player..everyone know I criticize him a lot when he’s bad..Kola ain’t even close to getting MOTM..all he did was those runs
Thought so too! Iwobi played quite well compared to the rest. He was dangerous with his pace.
Oga emma your eyes dey pain you? How can you say Kola was MotM? ?? hmmm!
Was gutted Kolasinac didn’t shoot!!
Iwobi our best player? Ha Ha, heard it all now
Totally uncreative midfield. Xhaka is an average player. Iwobi runs and runs and always screws up the final ball….always. Mustafi is so ordinary, Koscielny past it. We can’t even make chances for the only two decent players we have, Aubamayang and Lacazette. When we lost Santi and Alexis we lost all the specialness of our team. Emery has to to play Ozil. At least he has a brain. OK Torreira and Guendouzi have big potential, but we’re going to lose Ramsey. We need players NOW Greedy Man Stan. Kroenke is a ******* nightmare owner. He’s a worthless owner. A MULTI billionaire who will not spend a penny of his own money and even borrowed to buy our club. A ****. Until Kroenke is out we will be playing catch up with no chance of catching up. Even the ******* Spuds have a better team than us. Vomit!!!
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Great post Sean
This loss is on Emery head.
I am losing my faith in him with each passing week, each time I see Arsenal play, I am left wondering what happened to the creativity and flair our team had… And WTF has happened to the def? It looks worse now than with Wenger! To highlight this, we are two points better off than last season with a goal difference of plus 2 compared to this time last season.
If Emery keeps this up then I will be an EmeryOut person, he needs to earn his place with us next season and at the moment he is not doing that, our brand of football is becoming boring and this is not what we wanted from Arsenal.
Emery appears to be a good coach but that is it so far for me.
I think Emery has problems coaching big players. It’s manager’s job to find that balance, and do what’s best for club. Fan’s pay to see Neymar perform, not hear about him fueding with manager’s ego.
Emery knew about Ozil before he came. At Real Ozil was lights out dynamic, now with Auba and Laca to supply Emery wants Ozil to do what? Play as a box2box MF? If Emery is fielding 5 defensive players and still needs Ozil tracking back everytime, perhaps he should question the 5 defenders before blaming Ozil.
I’m for Arsenal first, club before everything always. Before players, managers, always club first. If he gave Ozil the slack he gives Xhaka, Iwobi, or Mustafi, then maybe I could see his point. Even a departing Ramsey would have offered more starting, and I don’t even care for Ramsey!
Bottom line is Emery got that game all wrong. 7 defensive players from beginning was mistake. At Anfield good decision, but against the Hammers?
Well even at Real Madrid Mourinho was clashing with Ozil over his work rate. Uli Hoeness as well called out Ozil and branded him the “weak link” in Arsenal’s midfield where they can go through at will. There is just something wrong with Ozil’s defending. It’s not normal to jog towards your opponent like you are doing some morning cardio and hope to dispossess him somehow.
My question remains the same, if Emery walks or is sacked, who of the well credentialed football managers/coaches, would come to Arsenal given the state of the current squad, the transfer budget available and the owner’s insistence on a self sustaining model? By the way Merlin the Magician is not available.
My second question is, compared to the other top 6 clubs, how many of the current Arsenal squad (apart from Aubameyang, Lacazette, Torreira, Guendouzi and maybe Iwobi) would make a profit in the transfer market?
£70 million spent on def reinforcements.
We go from a horrid 1.3421052631578947368421052631579 goals per game conceded under Wenger to 1.5 goals conceded per game under Emery.
OMG dude, you do like to regurgitate your comments though don’t you??? We get it! We’ve conceded more. Give it a rest now. Is there anything positive going on at Arsenal in your eyes at all? You come through as very petty and childish
Most people would think it extremely weird to give a stat on defence that goes to 31 decimal points. Either OCD or showing off. No other rational explanation for it. What was wrong with merely 1.34 to make your point?
@midkemma,really your man of the match kolasinac wow,I believe the only player who played decent was sokratis and iwobi,tell me something of note that kolasinac did yesterday
He looked fine ?
Sue, he’s your man of the match even when he’s not playing?
Declan IKR!!??.. Even when he’s injured, he’s always MOTM for Sue
??? nice one Eddie!
Love it Declan (even the little roll of the eye!) ??
Sue, interested in what you wan’t today Spurs/ United. It’s probably better for a Tottenham win but never in my life have wanted them to win. So 0-0 for me
Spoke too soon 0-1 Rashford.
Well Kenny…I detest both as you know…. yes a 0-0 would have been ideal for us… but I’m going with United ?? honestly can’t believe I’ve just said that….
Bittersweet really Kenny! Oh well at least Duzza won the darts! Very well done Duzza ? 3 & counting…….
Diop and Rice would be excellent acquisitions for Arsenal.West Ham deserved to win and the ratings more or less reflect our dismal performance.Playing with a back three devoid of authority and speed is an admission of the Manager’s lack of faith in his defenders.It is very much a defensive set up which should be consigned to the bin.We need to revert to a flat back four where we have a better chance to press further up the field and control the midfield area.We were playing a moderate West Ham side for goodness sake, not Barcelona.
All crappy players managed by a crappy manger. We have better players than West Ham yet they played us like we were the bottom team. Shame on them. We haven’t won any big teams except spurs and we ended up loosing to them. We have been beaten by some teams twice already. I didn’t know this will happen so soon after Arsene Wenger left.
…i see some already calling for emery’s dismissal as arsenal manager …how pathetic, is that, eh??
I also see its dawned on ’em that guendouzi has had far more game time than perhaps he ought to have had – i find that’s definitely the case.
He needs to learn his trade and serve as a player coming from the bench while a more established international should be grafting alongside torriera; On emery wish list ought to be Doucoure, or even Gaye (everton), both are tough grafters from what i’m seeing. Although kronke would rather we scrape by and make do with a player from out of the lower french league(s).
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This was a tactical clusterf$%k by Emery and
he deserves the lion share of blame for
Arsenals shambolic performance. WTS its
quite telling that the 2 of the best players on
the pitch yesterday were West Ham players
that Arsenal should of seriously pursued over
this summer. Felipe Anderson and Diop were
fantastic yesterday( and at the Emirates earlier
in the season) at positions where Arsenel
continue to be glaringly deficient. Both are
young, precocious talents that would of walked
to North London and into the first team but
AFC decided to spend nearly £60M on a 30 yr
old CB, an unproven, mistake prone keeper and
a dude with great hair from the French 2nd
league. Although Emery wasn’t given much
financial support over the summer I still question
the players purchased( sans Torreria) by the Big
Three and perhaps more critically the inability to
successfuly manage the contract situations of
Ramsey and Welbeck. Predictably Arsenal
sacrificed close to £60M in player sales
because they refused to s$%t or get off the
pot in reference to these two players. Imo
both should of been sold early in the summer
and along with Mustafi(£25M) there player
sales would of added an additional £85M to
the transfer kitty. £155M available for the
summer but unfortunately I’m still not
convinced Sven and co. would make the right
player decisions. AFC could buy all these
players that would walk into the first 11 but
would they?
F Anderson…£38M
Diop…£25M
Jonathen Tah….£35M
Doucoure…£35M
Schmeichel…£17M
£150 spent for this squad
Auba(Laca)
Anderson….Ozil…Iwobi
Doucoure…Torreria
Sead….Diop…Tah…HB
Scmeichel
Iwobi has been awsome in this game….You got it wrong in this one Admin
Awesome is being too kind but he was the best of a bad bunch Pires.
only question Is why iwobi only getting a 6?
They were all poor and when we really needed points as well. Now we have Chelsea next week and I can’t see us getting anything from that game. The squad is just waaayyy too thin to play the brand of high tempo football Emery wants to play. Hope we take Europa seriously cause it’s our best bet for getting out of the shambolicstate that we’re in as a club
@op/admin, i believe you intentionally chose to water down Iwobi’s efforts. That young lad did his best for his primary role in the attack and also put in a shift covering up in defence as though he was a wing back. Comparing him to Ozil is unfair cos they serve different roles in the team, the highest paid ineffective nonchalant player. Take it or leave it, Ozil has become an albatross on our neck, we either get rid of him or help him to be effectively consistent.
At least Iwobi has the hearts and confidence to run at opposition players, how do you explain Xhaka’s backward passes, Ramsey’s useless flicks and on-spot rotation on the ball? Iwobi’s final balls are seldom below par, it lacks accuracy and finesse, but that comes with age and encouragement, not the way you lots paints him on here.
I will blame our forward. Auba n Laca lack of responsibility. At times forward/striker should take game into their own hand if its not going as plan. Henry did that, RVP did that. I’m expecting that from Auba. As a player he should know that our midfield is not good. He should try to make thing happen. Atleast try ones.