It was requested earlier that I should write this post to see how JustArsenal readers felt about Oleks Zinchenko congratulating his old team Man City on winning their historic Treble this week, considering that they have been Arsenal’s biggest rival for the EPL title this season.
So here is the Instagram post (originally from Man City’s web team) that the Ukranian shared, with a comment with simply three claps showing his congratulations…..
So, there you have it!
So does that strike you as being disrespectful to Arsenal after this season’s rivalry (which saw Man City beat the Gunners all three times we met them), or do you think it is simply Zinchenko congratulating his old team-mates on their incredible successful season.
Personally I didn’t take offence at the post, but according to sundry articles in the papers and internet, there are a hell of a lot of Gooners that are very unhappy about it.
So which side of the fence do you sit on?
Over to you….
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I don’t think anyone cares.
+1
A few morons on twitter but some idiot journalist thinks it is a story
It saddems me , as a fair minded fan, to see an article such as this trying to goas some Gooners into criticising a fin eman in Zinny for simply not fogetting his old team mates at City and doing thrt natural and vert human thing of congratulating them on thei wonderful achievement.
What saddens me even more is that this post will fail to register with so many who put aggressive tribalism, without any true thought, before normal human kindness.
I congratulate and thank Zinny for representing the true values of an Arsenal football player so well, in congratulating fine young men and ex teammates, on such a landmark achievement.
I second that!!👆
Arteta already congratulated them as any fair minded person would.
Called class and respect
True sportmanship. No more, no less. An Arsenal-supporter doesn’t “hate” the opponent and their supporters. Fans maybe hate, supporters don’t.
Fans are kids, supporters are grown ups. And a grown up don’t think football is that important. It doesn’t really matters who wins and who loses. It’s just shorts and long stockings on a field of grass. And a ball.
We must learn to congratulate those who made achievements. When Arteta congratulated Gardiola for winning the PL trophy, it was a display of sportsmanship. Zinchenko did well to have congratulated his former teammates to sustain a diplomatic link between Arsenal and Man City. I know that if there is a match between the two teams, Zinchenko would want to prove a point that he is still a player to reckon with. CONGRATULATIONS Man City. It’s our turn next season!
I understand that they were his former team mates but them winning the treble was aided by us which pained me, personally i would have loved if he did it privately. Emotions are still high from losing the league yo them he should have been sensitive to that
GUNDOWN why do you think acts of kindness ought not to be publicly known, as most on here, save only you, agree they should?
Do you not see how good an example of human fine behaviour Zinnys sportsmanship sets?
AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SET SUCH A FOOD EXAMPLE TO YOUNG IMPRESSIONABLE FOLK, ESP TO KIDS?
AS I WROTE , IT REPRESENTS OUR PLAYERS IN A VERY FIME WAY. It seems to me you woukld have prefered Zinny to put you own privare frustration at losing the title , in front of his totallyb decent and admirable behaviour, thuis representing the club you profess to love in such a fine way.
Perhaps you consider your own”pained” feelings to be of more importance than representing our club so well?
That is how it appears, from reading your post. So, do you?
Just a thought Jon, that was why I loved the coverage given to Mesut Ozil (as an example) for his charity work, both abroad and here in the UK.
The media love to paint professional footballers in a bad light and they even try to make a very normal human reaction into another Arsenal player battering.
As for Zinchenko, well done and you make me proud that you wear the shirt.
KEN I will keep away from Ozil if you dont’
mind, for all the reasons we both know so well and have held for so long.
I do agre that SOME of the lowe class print media do attempt to destroy footballers character. But the “media” is a very wide concept, that includes even this very site AND ALL forms of social media.
I SEE SOCIAL MEDIA IN THE MAIN AS A GOOD WAY OF REFUTING THE MANY LIES THAT ABOUND, ESP IN THE FAR RIGHT AND FAR LEFT PRESS.
The old traditional newspapers are losing, indeed have lost, much of the power they had back in the nineties and that is good, imo. We both know and so do most others on this thread, that Zinny did the right thing by himself, by his club, his country and his common human race.
Decency is not only to be admired ; it is also to be expected. And thanked, when it happens too.
ken, I’m still waiting for Ozil to donate money to help his fellow muslims in Turkey, the Kurds. But then he might upset his best buddy Erdogan.
OG, don’t you think he’s done enough already and is still continuing to do?
Well, if you had followed him, you would know that fans attached him for that gesture, so said he was pathetic, called him names, that was why i said he should have been sensitive to fans emosions knowing that arsenal haven’t won the league for a long time, and city just won the champions league before arsenal. He should have been adviced better, i am not against what he did but looking at the picture as a whole he should have done differently
Gun down, the fans who are attacking him are the pathetic ones and Zinchenko must wonder about the intelligence of some of our fans.
It’s not only our fans, football is a sports which millions are emotionally invested in, everyone will not be as intelligent as you but those people who are intelligent to understand this things are in the minority that is why he should have been sensitive to such fans emotions
Gun down, I’m just one of the average guys, whose parents brought me up to respect others and their opinions.
To congratulate anyone for something that they have achieved comes as second nature and has nothing to do with intelligence.
In football, when an opposing team have just won the league, a guard of honour welcomes them on to the pitch – that’s what sport is all about – recognising achievement, nothing more and nothing less.
HEAR HEAR, a thousand times larger than I have written it, Ken!
Got no problem at all with Zinchenko doing that, why would anybody get upset about a player congratulating his former team mates and probably good friends as well. Just the media trying to stir things up again.
It’s called having a bit of class
I’m not a huge fan of it but neither is it really a crime worth getting upset over. It’s not like he made several, critical, untimely mistakes on the run-in that lead to goals being conceded, which ultimately assisted in City winning the league.
Oh…
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No player or manager should ever congratulate a rival for their success. RIP passion in football courtesy of billionaires who are slowly killing this beautiful sport.
Arteta and Zichenko it’s another day at the office for them with a fat shiny salaries why would they care?
The only ones who cares and who are pained are the ones who give everything and receive nothing in return, the fans!
The fans who travel to support their teams spending their hard earned money so Zichenko and Arteta can earn their obscene amount of money to live like in paradise and they congratulate the rival?
It’s disrespect to the fans!
HH, on this one I do not agree with you. The word “class” has been used by others, and I concur. I would think Arteta would have contacted Pep and congratulated him.
I don’t see a problem with it.
People should grow up and stop acting like little kids.
Just because he is at Arsenal does not mean that all of a sudden he hates his former teammates.
Too much snowflake mentality. Seeing grown men getting triggered about such a non issue makes me cringe..
It’s ridiculous..
Totally agree
I sit on the side of the fence which thinks he did nothing wrong congratulating a rival for their achievement. I wanted us to win the league not Man City, was indifferent on who won the FA Cup after we got knocked out and was rooting for Inter because I didn’t want City to do the Treble before us. No matter if we lost the competition or didn’t qualify to take part, to congratulate another clubs achievement shows class. What next, we stop shaking hands after a game with our closest rivals? No, if you take part in a race/match/fight/any sport and you lose, you shake hands, congratulate them and work harder to come back and beat them next time round.
I sit on the side of the fence which thinks he did nothing wrong congratulating a rival for their achievement. I wanted us to win the league not Man City, was indifferent on who won the FA Cup after we got knocked out and was rooting for Inter because I didn’t want City to do the Treble before us. No matter if we lost the competition or didn’t qualify to take part, to congratulate another clubs achievement shows class. What next, we stop shaking hands after a game with our closest rivals? No, if you take part in a race/match/fight/any sport and you lose, you shake hands, congratulate them and work harder to come back and beat them next time round.
It’s Mikel Arteta’s ethos at the club. Respect, commitment and passion. The more cultured Arsene Wenger also talked about respect among peers. Zinchenko had already publicly ‘bullied’ by his former teammates. A testament to his desire thus popularity among Man City players. We should not condemn that. Healthy competition brings out the best in players. Even better among friends. We are a club of proper men. And strong men always respect his opponents. I’m not going along with those emotional weak minded dupes at AFTV. Because that leads to toxicity that almost ruined this club.
How can any reasonable person expect a player to not congratulate ex teammates on their achievements, with whom he spent much time and developed an “esprit de couer”?
This is much Ado about nothing. There is no reason why Zinchenko’s congratulatory message should be vilified. This is is a person who stayed at the club for six years. Why should anyone think he had no feelings and friends there? It would have been understandable if he had congratulated them for winning EPL where Arsenal was competing with them.
I’m still scratching my head, eh, em…