What would you be willing to do, if you were Arteta, to get Declan Rice to the Emirates in a deal that could still see you complete another blockbuster deal for Moises Caicedo? Why am I asking you this?
If Arsenal decided to bring in the two midfield reinforcements (Rice and Caicedo) on straight cash deals, they’d have to spend over £170 million to get them. Caicedo may command a £70 million fee, while Rice may command a £100 million fee – if not more.
But there have been suggestions of Arsenal offering some peripheral players to ease the deal, with the Express saying perhaps Emile Smith-Rowe, Nuno Tavares, Tierney or Balogun could be used.
Another suggestion from Caught Offside says that Arsenal could include Reiss Nelson, Folarin Balogun, and Albert Sambi Lokonga in the offer for Declan Rice’s acquisition, to avoid overspending on their midfield. About why they go that route, they suggest the Hammers are interested in the trio; as such, they would consider lowering their asking price if that “offer” comes through.
After looking at Caught Offside’s suggestion, I came to the conclusion that if such a deal is considered, it may be a Balogun and Lokonga swap for Rice, as Reiss Nelson is soon to leave as a free agent (contract extension talks have not borne any fruit). No offence to Lokonga; he can go, but why should Arsenal swap Balogun when they can make some good money from his sale? It is sad that even after a dominant run in Ligue 1, with 20 goals in 35 games for Stade de Reims, we can’t discuss him being at Arsenal next season. All we talk about is where he’s headed.
Anyway, the bigger picture is that with a swap deal, Rice’s value could drop; he could be signed for a reasonable bid and help other deals to still go through, but I hope the Arsenal decision-makers reconsider which Gunners to include in that swap.
Why don’t they offer Eddie Nketiah and Sambi Lokonga? West Ham’s attack may get sharper with Eddie as Lokonga tries to fill the Rice void at midfield.
Who do you think the Hammers would accept in exchange for Rice?
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Balogun starting at £50 million
Tierney starting at £35 million
ESR starting at £50 million
Tavares starting at £30 million
Holding starting at £15 million
Why should we haggle it down on transfer fees when clearly no other PL team is willing to do it? English tax included.
I see your laughable total of £180 mill as a “starting figure” and need to tell you that we will be lucky to get a total of even £100mill and that as a finishing , not a starting, figure.
Holding will not fetch more than £6mill at most. Balogun will not get anywhere near your fantasy prediction either.
As for your prediction of Tavares at £30mill, are you quite well?
@jon fox, dgr, PJSA
Missing the point, all of you. Jon Fox obviously missed the point with the same margin as Kane did his penalty.
And the point is not selling cheap. This club is known to do that and other clubs have exploited that, ruthlessly.
You have Brighton asking for more than 70 million for a midfielder who had decent 6 months in the league, and even after that the player was willing to sign an extension.
If anyone is interested in our players, we start with high prices and not these laughable 8 million for Guendouzi, 3 million for Leno.
We now have players who are sought after and we don’t have any reason to sell. They are not DEADWOOD like the likes of Mustafi etc. were.
We can ask a lot more than you people would think. What we’ll get is different thing but we don’t have to bend over backwards to get rid of someone.
You make fair comment, although only in general But the specifics, and it IS the specifics, , not the generl point, that applies in this case. You have listed specific players, and not spoken generally. i My own deeply considered and sober minded estimmation will be FAR nearer the achevable figure, than your too optimistic and unrealistically bloated figure can possibly be.
I repeat, in your general theme, I agree with your post.
But the specifics of THESE players and not of others, is what counts. Surely?!!
Those that are arguing with you should simply give a reason why a club who paid €40m for Viera and €20m+ for Sambi sell those players you listed for peanut.
We bought Joginho that Chelsea would be gladly to pay his wages for 6months for sitting on the bench for £12 fcuking million but we can’t get 30m for one of Ligue 1 best fullbacks/ attacking fullbacks of the season.
How could we then afford the players that will improve us like all the fans want.
A player is only as valuable as what other clubs are willing to pay, nothing else matters. MA/Edu want fees that no-one is willing to pay and instead of lowering the price we keep the player until the contract runs down wasting millions on wages and lost revenue.
Pepe is a perfect example. You hate the player fine, but take whatever you can get and part ways. Even if the loan fee covers wages you are still losing out of revenue even if it’s less than what you want. Can someone explain to me how playing hardball and not selling player benefits Arsenal?
Those prices you mention, you are joking right?
Oh DaJuhi
Your comment is clearly indicative of one who is completely misinformed about the incompetence of Edu Gasper to sell players. As long as it’s Edu handling the sales, just expect that each of the players you’ve mentioned will be sold for a third of what you’ve written above. That’s if they are not paid to leave. That’s the harsh reality as you will soon find out
I would use: Nelson, Smith-Rowe, Holding or even Tomiyasu.
I think West Ham would like Tierney or Balogun + £60m for Rice
I’d prefer to tell the Hammers to go *** themselves and gamble on Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, Kalvin Phillips or James Ward-Prowse instead. I bet they can also be our English influencers in the games
Dewsbury-Hall is an interesting thought. He always seems to play well when I’ve watched him.
He’s slightly bigger than Vieira and a left-footed CM, so he could replace Xhaka in the left AM position. If Leicester get relegated, I think his price-tag would be lowered
He’s a good box to box player, a good contributor in defence and attack, I think. Might well be a good player to replace xhaka, as you say.
Gai,
If we really mean business can we just go for Rice. Arsenal can’t afford to buy players who are not top notch except if we are not aiming for the top next season. If we are 2nd this season we should aim for the top next season. Let’s go for top notch midfielders or Strikers of worth. Other teams are not joking and getting ready for next season. The truth is winning Epl requires spending some good money.
Maybe Arteta wants Rice to play like Stones. Ornstein said Rice is one of Arsenal’s main targets
He’s quality, add Azeez as well.
The problem is if we bring him to the first team will he get game time? If you look at our other fringe players the answer is a solid no.
West ham have an interest in Nketiah, i dont see any other player going.
True to that. Why would any of the players mentioned go to West Ham and help Arsenal?
Arteta has done Tierney, ESR, Lokogna no favors in his management of them.
Why would they go to a poor West Ham side when they are likely other teams interested?
Tierney will go where he can play, and a team that is challenging for something.
Delusional to think he would agree to a move to soggy West Ham who is going nowhere anytime soon.
West Ham are not likely going to do us any favours, why should they? If we can’t match their price, then let’s look elsewhere. We should avoid another Mudryk saga. Let’s just get on with the transfers as soon as possible.
Personally don’t get the fuss with him ,he’s no more than a safe solid player that just does his job ,I would love to see some proper physicality and pace in our midfield choice if we are to spend big ,we already have Xhaka Odegaard Jorginho and Viera imagine adding Rice to that lot ,we would be laughed out of the CL next season .
Not for me but Arteta seems to like these kinds of midfielders as he was one himself
Turner=5 million
Cedric=5 million
Holding =10 million
Tierney=30 million
Xakai = 20 million
Elneney =5 million
Viera=20 million
Nelson 20 million
Neiktha=20 million
I would add Jorginho, Balogun and Jesus to that list!!!
How Guendouzi was sold for £8 mil is beyond me, a certain young Greek defender Wegner once said will develop into a monster one day was given away for nuts.
Would rather Tierney be sold to West Ham than the Magpies.
My reason is Newcastle already has a water tight defense, why aid them solidly it.
West Ham always sign quality players but they bubbles always burst before they settle in.
Some how I get the feeling it’s the media setting the prices on these players head, how do one comes up with a valuation of £100 mil for Rice.
The media touts a ridiculous price the manager of the club then gets an idea then the agents or their connections loves it and run with it.
Arsenal need to keep Xhaka for at least another year and then add 2 more MFs .. Replacing him with similar player will cost BETWEEN £40-£50m While he will be sold for not more than £15M..
He’s making a statement re his future after the Wolves game.