Posted on August 27, 2017 by ADMIN

Not even Wenger can defend ‘disastrous’ Arsenal loss to Liverpool

When Arsenal lose away to Liverpool you are not likely to hear many people saying good things about the Gunners. When we fail to score and let in four then you can be pretty sure that the Sky Sports pundits will tear into the Arsenal team, especially Jamie Carragher who has blasted our defending before and played for the scousers for his whole career.

We are not even surprised to hear that the former arsenal and France striker Thierry Henry was left completely at a loss about the way the Gunners performed at Anfield, to the extent that he could not even watch the game at times. But usually you will get some sort of defence of his players from Arsene Wenger, whether it is a complaint about some bad luck or some positive comments about some part of the way we played.

Today not even the Frenchman could find anything good to say about the game. He could not even bring himself to look for something good to say after the match and who can blame him? That was just about as bad as it gets if you are a Gooner.

Wenger said, “The result is a consequence of our performance. We were not good enough. We were beaten everywhere physically, in the end I believe we made it easier for them, and the mistakes gave them a cushion.

“It was shocking (the goal before half-time) but our performance was absolutely disastrous. Not to become too emotional, we have to take some distance, and there are some reasons behind it, and the players now go on their international break, but we do have to take the consequences of our performance today.

“If you find a manager who is happy with that performance today, I wish you good luck. The emotions are negative, but it’s not the right moment to talk about that.”

Henry said, “It was unwatchable, at one point I wanted to leave. I don’t relate to the team and I don’t think a lot of the fans do. That is a problem.”

And Carragher chipped in with, “It’s the last 10 years, and you will see the same performances for the next 10 years because there is a lack of ruthlessness from the top to the bottom. If we are being honest, the board bottled the decision in the summer and were terrified of moving the manager on.

“There had to be a change. Then the summer comes and it’s ‘things may be different’…But what we saw today was worse. I called them cowards last season and got a bit of criticism but I’ll say it again: cowards.”

Ouch Arsenal, ouch! If our famously optimistic boss cannot defend the Arsenal team, what chance have we got?

Bob.

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95 thoughts on “Not even Wenger can defend ‘disastrous’ Arsenal loss to Liverpool

    1. brume kelvin

      you guys going to see games need to wake up big time.. it’s only you guys who can instigate the change we crave..

      it’s possible you’ve gotten tickets for the next five games but of what good is it going to see them when you’ll end up heart broken.. honestly I feel for those who buy tickets and travel to go see such shambles..

      Wenger out banners won’t solve nothing, all we need do boycott at least 4 games. let them feel the pain we fans go through every time dey mess up..

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  1. Avenger

    A empty Stadium seats are better than
    Wenger out banners Wenger out now!!!!

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    1. arsenal_eplchampions_2017-2018

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      Out of tune?. Like or Dislike: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 33

    2. Mobella

      Who is the coward that thump you down. If he has a different opinion he should just state it. I’m a Wenger staunch supporter but i know this club need saving from him and your idea is one of the way to do it.

      Opinions divided. What do you think? Thumb up 10 Thumb down 11

    3. ZA_Gunner

      Oh believe me Wenger is having the final laugh when he does leave, not us fans and you know why, because he gets paid handsomely and when he gets to look back from afar, he will feel it was all him that put the club where it is. At his age this will probably be his last stint of anything high profile and big and since he doesn’t have a family, he feel being at Arsenal is some kind of justification to prove something. He is using Arsenal for himself at the expense of everything good. There was a time I wish he would move up to perhaps a board position, now I just was him far away from Arsenal as soon as possible.

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  2. Quantic Dream

    I guess after the 3rd consecutive resounding beating from Liverpool we can add them to our ever growing list of bogey teams including but not limited to Chelsea, Southampton, Swansea, Stoke, Man utd and Tottenham.

    Top Gooner!. Agree or not?: Thumb up 55 Thumb down 2

    1. Thierryzil

      Swansea and Watford are going to deal with our team currently.

      Marco SIlva looks like a solid coach and Watford are looking solid — just the kinda recipe needed to get in Arsenal’s face at the moment.

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    2. ZA_Gunner

      Every team is going to have a go at us this season, because they know with our instability, there’s a chance at winning against us.

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  3. Hilary

    Someone please help me here, why did we sign Lacazette and Kolasinac again? Because I can’t understand how you keep your best signings on the bench and play others out of position in a match like this!
    Wenger couldn’t pick a better game for experiments, could he? #SMH

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    1. Oyewole oyedeji

      After seeing the line up of our beloved team I predicted 5goals against us bc I can’t understand why we have to play many players out of position as much as I love Mr Wenger I think he’s behind the technical know how of the game which is basically the truth. I am shocked to find Giroux, lacazette and kolasic on the bench,where is Ramsey for God sake why is Mr Wenger and the ? board delight in making arsenal fans sad? Why would Mr Wenger sell Mustafa? I am seriously in shock. This is not a sort of game we lose like we did. This is a very sad day for me as an arsenal fan.

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      1. Mobella

        I feel your pain bro. Guys we only make ourselves feel miserable by complaining to ourselves here. The best solution is for us to figure a way to get rid of Wenger. I can’t believe I’m saying this because Wenger is a man i respect but i know his time is up.

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        1. Nelly

          Wenger is old and out of ideas. Believe me he is not flexible when he found the new 3 back formation he thought he could go on with it but he has totally lost it. You see what happened to Van Gaal when he played with only 3 defenders. Wenger’s time is up.

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      2. bran99

        Now stop loving him, you’ve seen how our beloved team has become just coz of his presence.. he’s been taking us backwards for so long, hope this time you Wenger lovers will wake up

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    2. Xxnofx

      Exactly, someone needs to come out and tell us what is happening to the club and what is being done to rectify it . We can’t go on like this ,I’ve been shaking my head for the last 3-4 years to some of his decisions, but now I’m quite worried to what’s going to happen to the club . He’s got 2 years left and then after he will probably go upstairs and interfere again with the new manager , we need a new direction as a club , new manger being top priority,. For me I would love to see Dennis bergkamp and mark overmars come in ( would never happen) or sum 1 in that mound , young , knowledgeable, Hungary and as passion for the game . Read that he’s quite intelligent and and has a good understanding for the game .

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    3. ZA_Gunner

      I tell you why, because Wenger doesn’t know how to use his players. The evidence is in his before match speech about Lacazette being not ready and needing to adapt because contrary to what he believe, fans know Lacazette is ready to play especially if a manger knows how to use him and in the right way, he will be prolific. It can be said the same about buying Ozil; Sanchez playing striker; Bellerin playing LWB; Ox playing LW; Kolasinac playing CB; Monreal CB; Welbeck striker; Ramsey as winger; Mustafi brought then looking to be sold; Gabriel brought and sold; Perez brought and not played; Chambers brought and loaned; Walcott as striker; and too many examples in the past. There is just too much to prove that Wenger doesn’t have a clue on how to best utilize his players and he uses real matches like training sessions to experiment players.

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  4. LL_cool_gunner

    I demand 180k a week, to keep watching arsenal, it’s not an easy job supporting arsenal…

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    1. Valentine

      Seriously! Like being married to a woman you are sure will cheat on you. You hope she has changed, only to find her being…

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  5. chris

    What Henry actually said at half time was he was NOT surprised. Nor was I …. nor were many many other long term Arsenal fans … except of course Kroenke and the remaining Wenger luvvers. They will of course blame the players. But the players don’t know when and where they will be picked to play next. They don’t know the game plan is … the Manager does not do tactics. The midfielders and attackers should conserve their energy and not track back too earnestly. Nobody should shoot. How many senior players is it want to leave ?

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    1. ZA_Gunner

      Absolutely, and it’s a matter of fact that he destroy and run many good or potential players to the ground before they can ever become great for their team.

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  6. Mr pat

    Why are arsenal players behaving like traitors or indeed they are to arsenal shirt, they totally bitslapped hard working arsenal fans who paid decent money to support the team and whatever their problem with wenger is they should take up with gazidis but please do the job they are paid to do

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  7. Zimbo

    Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Only Arsenal gets humiliated every other season by top four teams. Why doesn’t Wenger learn? As if it’s not enough, the old man is also stubborn and arrogant. I have lost all hope…

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    1. SynthiagoCazorla_Hvman_Machine

      This is a consequence of Wenger’s arrogance. He likes to stick it up to the world when his actions (or inaction) are criticized.
      No reason he should carry on playing a clearly unbalanced team seeing as it did not pay off last week at Stoke. Under no circumstances should he have started contract rebel OX, and played Bellerin at LWB when we had the in-form Kolasinac fit for the game.

      It is pretty stupid to sell off Gabriel and Mustafi while relying on Holding – a less accomplished player with comparatively little experience. What is even more stupid is to try to justify this stupidity by again stupidly playing him in a game of such magnitude just a few days after you admitted he’s low on confidence. Why sell Mustafi if you’re not going to replace him with someone better???

      Why play Welbeck ahead of record-signing-proven-goal-scorer Lacazette?? Only explanation is that his arrogance is getting the better of him these days. Why buy Kim Kallstromm when what we needed was a good back up striker to share the workload with Giroud from January and we could’ve given ourselves a better chance of winning the league? He just couldn’t resist the urge to stick it up to his critics and prove them wrong.

      In arrogantly trying to vindicate a stupid decision, he follows it up with another stupider decision.

      He can and needs to improve this team with new signings. But he’d rather spew nonsense about being very happy with this team, like he won the EPL last season. Such arrogance and cockiness!!

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  8. Seetrsuma

    To be completely honest, a lot of it didn’t even have anything to do with Wenger’s lineup. I would have made 3 changes to the lineup, personally, but nobody played will. We missed traps, we didn’t work hard either on or off the ball, we didn’t track runners, we didn’t pass to feet. Nobody on the team played well, except possibly Laca and Giroud.

    Sanchez looks totally done with Arsenal, and needs to be sold, Bellerin has yet to show progression from a few years ago when he was outstanding, Ramsey is clueless as to his positional duties, Ozil offers very little defensively and cannot play without a solid defense behind him, Holding is neither skilled enough, nor athletic enough to play in a back 3 right now, Monreal is still playing poorly, Welbeck put in a TON of work, that was absolutely pointless because he’s a chicken with his head cut off.

    I fault Wenger for not starting with Laca, Mustafi and Sead, but even with the 3 of them, everybody else played terribly, and didn’t put in effort. Even with the lineup that Wenger put out, I expected a competitive game. I still fancied us to win, or at least come away with a point. To lose 4-0 with a lineup as strong as it was, there’s no excuse for a performance that we put in. That’s on both the manager AND the players. They probably already know who’s coming and leaving the rest of this transfer window, and are now comfortable in their roles on the team not being in jeopardy.

    Sell Sanchez, Ozil, Ox, Monreal, Ramsey, Mustafi, Perez and Walcott.
    Bring in Lemar/Mahrez and Forsburg, bring in Van Dijk, bring in Aurier, and bring in Seri or Carvalho.

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    1. Tg

      But all the players you want to bring in want to play in the Champions league! And guess what your not in it lol.

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    2. RAA1395

      i hate to bring this obvious fact to you : there will be no stars coming to this club this year.
      i think i mentioned this last year….i will say it again: our players are above average players who can pass endlessly. each one uses his best of his above average ability to make the best out of his position. when you play in that position for long, you will become really a good above average player. but when you play out of your old position, your above average ability is just not good enough to make you even an above average player in your new position. the result of today is exactly similar to the one we had at stoke (multiplied by a factor of how better liverpool are than stoke).
      ox and sanchez are leaving….that double substitution said that clearly….xhakha has no place in arsenal…its just not working for him….YOU JUST CAN NOT GIVE THE BALL AWAY LIKE THAT!
      Arsenal did not have even one shot at goal !!! thank god we are not playing in CL….my only fear now is that we will regret playing in eurupa !

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  9. Sue

    The whole team probably. Lacazette will be on the first flight back to France at this rate! Chris Wood cheered me up a fraction though 🖒

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  10. Durand

    Well deserved bashing of all the players they earned the criticism. As for Wenger, he made his bed so let him lie in it.

    Ox and Sanchez should never wear our badge again. If they want out then f-off and spend rest of the time away from the starting 11 and the bench.

    Still playing people out of position; arrogant manager never learn. #wengerout approaching global levels now, think i saw a wenger out banner at a LA Rams preseason game.

    Boycott games, losing money is all they understand. Wenger decisions boarding on the criminal now. Obvious middle finger to all fans from Le Fraud with players and positions.

    Ramsey, wow just wow. First goal not paying attention, leisure stroll towards mid pitch on opposite side away from the action. CM? Not even close, selfish, undisciplined, worthless. Ox and bellerin were criminally awful but yet continue ro play.

    Kronke must sell, this time next year his shares will lose half their value.

    Honestly, I’m half wishing team responds with run of great form, and half wishing they go ahead and capitulate and sink. No more treading water, swim to live or quit and drown.

    Jamie carriger was right hate to admit, Arsenal are cowards plain and simple. I’m done defensing players after this game. Wenger out, ox out ramsey out and half the team out.

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    1. bran99

      Too late for the outs mate, le St*p*d had all the time from the last whistle last season on the FA cup to shift out unwanted players and bring in “top top top players”, but 4 days before the window closes here we are with same mediocre players and the old poneapple still struggling to put a decent first 11 and everyone in their respective positions.

      Can’t face anyone now, at home, at work, everyone is laughing at me openly.. what did we do to deserve this? Was choosing Arsenal a mistake all along? Was I supposed to move on the time Bergkamp retired? Really don’t know now

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    2. Mobella

      What makes it more difficult to take is we play 11 vs 11 and feels like arsenal playing with 8 players. They are bunch of cowards. Watching Chelsea the other fighting backing with 9 men is a joy to watch. Though they lost but you see they mean business.

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    3. ZA_Gunner

      Agree with you on most points except Korenke will not lose half it’s shares, because it simple business. Arsenal is a major London club with huge global fan base which is a great attraction to investors. It doesn’t matter how bad Arsenal is, his shares will still rise.

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  11. ozil10

    Well done boys! You performed the way I’d expected…
    When Alexis was smirking in the Bayern match, I abused him.. But this time around I was smiling with him.
    Bye bye Alexis, you deserve to play for a better club.
    I just hope we don’t get relegated…
    After int. break
    ARSEnal JOKE FC 1 – Bournemouth 2
    #WengerOutKroenkeOut

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  12. Thierryzil

    Who remembers how good our defense was when Bould newly became the asst. manager?

    And once we were told Bould was specially working with the defense, things went back to normal because Le Fraud apparently took that duty off him.

    Last season/this summer he was at loggerhead with Ivan Gladizis over the issue of a D.O.F and won.

    Let’s face it: Wenger is a stubborn DICTATOR and God help us because we are kinda stuck with him now.

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      1. Thierryzil

        Many of us woke up years ago mate. But there’s only so much we can do as fans.

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  13. Arsenalian

    I have been an avid Arsenal fan for a very long time (Arsenalian). Previous to this year, I had 17 Arsenal jerseys from different years. I am a huge fan of the Arsenal club and history. This team, organization, and coach suck now though. I have no attachment to them. In fact, I was happy that they lost as they completely deserved it. They didn’t try in the off season, are satisfied (from the top to the bottom) with mediocrity, and can’t be bothered to try in the games. I watched the game wearing a Liverpool shirt and cheered their goals. They deserved it. Arsenal were lucky not to have lost 8-0.
    When Arsenal starts bringing in players who actually fight for each other and themselves and when the board actually sees the club with some passion instead of as an ATM, I might start cheering for them again. I will always be an Arsenal club fan, but this team and organization simply suck and don’t deserve any fans at all.
    Wenger really should have prepared the team a bit for this game. Who knows what he was doing all week? Also, it may have been a good idea to start Bottom lins your best players (Lacazette and Kolasinac for example). And Arsenal obviously need a midfielder who is disciplined and focused on preventing counter attacks and not just abandoning his post and bombing forward (seems to be all Wenger is interested in).
    The worst thing about being an Arsenal fan is that the team, from the top to the bottom, doesn’t care to fight for victory and doesn’t seem to care if it wins or loses. I am talking about in the transfer market, in preparation for games such as this one, and even in the game itself. The current Arsenal FC simply sucks and is not worth watching or following. They themselves are not even interested in supporting themselves.

    Opinions divided. What do you think? Thumb up 23 Thumb down 11

    1. ZA_Gunner

      It’s a shame how this club treat it’s fan and stern supporters. My Liverpool supporter friend who I watched the game with said he hate to see how Arsenal is becoming, it actually saddens him. He said Wenger should really have gone long time ago and we shouldn’t have allowed him to sign that 2 years.

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  14. ThirdManJW

    I’ve said it a few times now, more tongue in cheek, but I do now wonder if Wenger is deliberately sabotaging the results. It sounds crazy, and completely ridiculous, but his team selections in all three games have been shocking, especially against Stoke, and today. His starting XI’s have been so bad, that I wonder if something is going on behind the scenes.

    Just look at today. Really tough away game, and you bench your new £50 million prolific striker, for Welbeck, who is useless in the final third. Not even Giroud came in for Lacazette! Bellerin completely out of position again, when just like in the Stoke game, you have FOUR better options for the LWB position. Kolasinac on bench, whilst Bellerin makes a harsh of things? Ozil never turns up against top teams, why was he starting? Why was Ramsey starting? Xhaka was also poor, but I felt sorry for him. He didn’t have anyone helping him, as selfish Ramsey was constantly out of position, trying to bag himself a goal. Holding may have potential, but he’s been really poor so far, why isn’t Chambers ahead of him?

    Then Wenger’s master-plan to get us back into the game, was to bring on a DM at halftime! Ramsey did need to come off, but what was the point of a DM at that stage of the game? Then Sanchez, and the Ox come off, whilst the likes of Bellerin, Ozil, and Welbeck stay on! Why?

    Wenger has been really bad at his job for some time, but I cannot he’s become this bad! Too many simplistic mistakes being made, game, after game. I cannot believe he would sabotage results, but I honestly cannot come up with any other explanation.

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    1. Leon

      He is not sabotaging the club – i honestly don’t believe he is like that.
      I just believe we have reached a stage where we need a fresh approach. Being there twenty one years brings only stagnation, he fails to see the wood for the trees so to speak.
      I just get a feeling something is happening behind the scenes, something big that has been eluded to by the manager himself.
      To be honest massive changes are needed from the top down. I cannot see Wenger surviving this season.
      I have been critical of him but now you just feel sorry for him, which is probably even worse than criticism because it is confirmation of the end..

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    2. ZA_Gunner

      You know someone said to me that Wenger is deliberately doing this and running this club down with players leaving in retaliation on the supporters who protested Wenger out last year and also so that when the next manager comes in with a hugely broken squad and fails, he’d be able to come out and say “you see, I told you so!”, just to prove a point. Although this is way farfetched to think it be true but you can’t help but wonder by all the crazy things he has done, or not done, since last season ended up until now.

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  15. dboy

    Well i think we all saw this coming. The moment they announced that AW signed a two year extension we knew. I also know that the protest will begin next week 🤓🤓
    Here we go! #WENGEROUT!!!!!

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  16. reddb10

    nothing will change with kroenke and wenger in the picture. we have suffered the most humiliating defeats in the clubs history over the past decade with zero change and wenger having the audacity to say it was our fault last season. i dont know if it will be in our lifetime but when the greedy yank and wenger are gone i hope they are only remembered with hate and remorse.

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  17. Finding Dory

    I love Arsenal. Will support them til the end of my life (which will be soon at this rate). However, my fellow Gooners, it is time to hunker down as a supporter. This is going to be a long; very long; season. Be prepared for the departure of Alexis, Ox, Ozil, Ramsey, Giroud, Bellerin, Xhaka, and ultimately Wenger.

    We will finish at the bottom of the table and be fighting off relegation. It pains me and breaks my heart to say this.

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  18. Ian wrights bruva

    What am embarrassment!

    Very sad times, can’t say much more.

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  19. Ronny

    For once I or we knew this was coming no?
    Watching pool the other night in the CL game they were in fire and no way with our current sqaud we’d keep with them.
    I suppose there was a slim chance we’d play like we did against Chelsea and suprise us all.
    Inconsistent like no team I’ve known!

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  20. Nothing changed

    There is a reason it is commonly accepted by most managers and football clubs that you don’t keep players around your first team who don’t want to be part of your club or future. We play 3 of them. We bench the two new players who decided to believe in us for bizarre reasons. Is Bellerin a better left back than Kolasinac? WTF!!!!! Is Welbeck better finisher than Laca??? WTF???

    I hope all fans who were so set on forcing players to play out their contract can see with their own eyes what the results are when you play players who don’t want to be part of your future.

    Ship Ozil, Ox, and Sanchez!!! This should have been done weeks and weeks ago so that we could have signed players like Seri and Draxler or Lemar.

    Now our problems are much bigger because we have entered a super negative energy period after only 2 or 3 games.

    It is not the players Wenger needs to think about defending or not, he should defend his own team selection and his decision to keep want away players around and to play others out of position.

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    1. ZA_Gunner

      The sign was already there when we only tried to move on players towards the end of the transfer season. Top teams would have a list of all the players needing to be shipped out before the transfer period and tried to do so with urgency so that they can focus on bringing in required reinforcements, but at Arsenal we do the opposite which is incompetency at it’s highest level. What’s worse is using that incompetency as an excuse for not being able to sign new players.

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  21. DarlingbudsofArse

    Enough is now enough, Wenger must now leave after what happened today due to a huge part, his team selection. What are you now waiting for gooners? Haven’t you seen or had enough of this old £9M a year cow? Either there’s something wrong with you all or it’s definitely me!
    Never will I return to the Emirates unless this man walks. He can have the whole stadium to himself. No more silly excuses Wenger: GO!

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  22. waal2waal

    ..there’s difference in the way a team that’s in the CL plays and one that ain’t – i never thought i’d witness my team in free fall or being a direct pity to behold, that’s exactly where we are. Lots of teams will go liverpool and get beaten but today was all the evidence you’d ever need of wenger’s stubborn failure to act in the transfer window, to replenish the team with fresh players and install a winners mindset in his faltering team.

    why sacrifice highbury, go about building emirates stadium, declare ourselves debt free, announce primary transfer targets and trim down the squad if you’re not gonna build a quality team to reflect your ambition? draxler, mbappe, aubameyang, lemar won’t plan on coming here. the writing is on the wall that we are ill prepared for anything beyond domestic cup competition, we’ve relinquished our place as a respected top10 european club… the jig is up… its all been nothin more than loose talk.

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  23. ayodeji

    If you support Arsenal for the rest of your life it means you will be sad for a longtime except Wenger leaves

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  24. Crazy gunner

    You can have as many banners as you want and planes etc the only thing that will bring real change is to stop going to games…Kroenke only understands money sadly

    Football fans are not customers they are ”addicts” and the owners understand that..

    Till we stop going to games and buying merchandise kroenke and by extension wenger is here to stay..

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  25. dboy

    There is a pattern here for the last three years. Bring in one marquee signing and get one free signing a cheap signing in January to shut the fans up. Bid for players you know you will not buy and hang on to the mediocre ones that are just happy to collect their pay cheques every week. What is really strange is that this strategy works year after year. You can fool some people some of the time but you can’t fool all of them all the time.

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    1. ZA_Gunner

      It worked because we had players like Ozil and Sanchez carrying us. We have always relied on one good player per season instead of getting a couple of good players so that they can play together and do better as a collective the following season. By buying top players one every season means players will have to exert themselves again for that season and sooner or later those players will get tired and want to leave.

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  26. ayodeji

    How can we get London guys to boycott the games? I have stopped watching arsenal matches since last season.

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    1. GB

      Unfortunately auodeji it is not just London boys. They are a small percentage. Fans come from all over U.K. Even Europe regularly and if they don’t go then tourists do from USA and Japan, everywhere. There will never be an empty stadium.
      Fact of life unfortunately.

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  27. Gunnerup

    No coaching no tactics no brain. He just choses a dumb lineup and that’s it. Go play. Steve bould needs to eff of as well

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  28. Ronny

    What gets me is forgetting Wenger now these individuals are professional athletes in the public eye. Where was the pride and the anger to try and stop the rot? Nobody enjoys humiliation and getting abused on social media surely this would be enough to work harder.
    The ox and sanchez today were blatant and a disgrace it stands out even more with them as their work rate is usually so good.

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    1. ZA_Gunner

      The player is reflective of the coaching and the manager. It’s easy to blame the players but really it should be the coaching staff being accounted. Look at Chelsea under Mourinho when they all rebelled, but once Conte came it’s the same players and he went on to win the league.

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  29. Raj

    Leave the job of defending this performance to AKBs .they should come out of their hiding now . JJPAWN and midkemma where are you guys?

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    1. bran99

      Still waiting for them as well, or are they busy now collecting their paychecks from Wenger himself??

      You can’t just support this old man, every sane person got fed up some few years back, I wonder how these guys can still do it!!

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  30. Bur

    I hope the the wenger remainers are happy now that our season is over. What is wrong with a lot of our support is they are weak and have no swingers. Wenger must be kicked out now!. We need new ideas badly. What a fn mess this year again.

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  31. Ronny

    I’ve got to share this….
    Has anyone seen Luis Gustavo recently? He’s playing for marseile tonight and he looks like a 70s pornstar! Wet look perm and dodgey tash.
    Sorry for the random post but on this miserable night that did actually make me laugh.

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  32. DarlingbudsofArse

    We were all prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt but now can see where it’s all headed. Save our season; get him to leave now.

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  33. KaTs

    Wengar, “….The players are quality but today we had a poor performance….”, “..But we have to not panic as well….”
    Only Arsene Wenger can be such an arogant manager…

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  34. khangunners

    Now we will panic buy abd buy more average players. We are in such a big mess. I said it and people laughed we will struggle to beat everton this year😕😢

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  35. ayodeji

    Beat Everton that’s a joke this team lacks moral fiber or intestinal fortitude

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  36. Wolf

    During Arsenal’s UCL years I remember every time we played a UCL game during the WK I expected us to be lethargic come the following league game and we were. Liverpool played a UCL earlier this WK and looking at Arsenal today one would of thought it were Arsenal who played during the WK.
    Just goes to show how far this team has fallen. A whole WK off and this is what we get. One would of think the players are doing what Leicester and Chelsea players did to their mangers and if so then go ahead cos the Arsenal fans (some) want more of the same from the last 13 years. No more words on here from me saying “wenger out”. I’m saying “boycott” home games the whole of the board needs to go

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  37. gmv8

    We as fans deserve to know what the hell is going on. Something has been wrong since January last year. Then we had the game at Middlesborough where Alexis booted the Ox up the backside, and the team seemed to be reunited again, and we went on that winning run. Now we seem to be back at the stage where no one is talking to each other again, with everyone wanting to leave. Back then we were told it was Alexis’ fault, now it’s Mustafi’s fault. Wenger seems to be running around trying to keep everyone on the team happy, which is probably the reason for the bizarre team selections and positioning. Enough is enough. It’s been going on for 8 months. I believe there is a reason for all of this, as many of the players are virtually admitting it, they are not communicating or playing as a team, and I think it’s the same reason as the beginning of the year.

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  38. DANDY GUNNER

    Wenger gets around 10M a year but blames everyone else around him. A manager in any other club or Job would have been sacked a long time ago. WENGER OUT NOW.

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  39. Ronny

    Wenger never signs more than 2 or 3 in a window as he doesn’t want to upset the sqaud balance. Fook that let’s try a Monaco business model keep a few of the tryers or stronger player and clean sweep the lot!
    The brand new team may have still got thrashed today but at least they would have worked their ar*es off for the badge!

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  40. Dan

    Of course Maureen was delighted Wenger signed a new contract he knew straight away it would be a easy 6 points for the!!

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  41. Imran

    Be ready for relegation battle with this stupid defense and goalie.. I wish we could kick Cech, monreal, ox and Ozil out. This stupid coach has never understand the team for last 10 yeaes. Watch out Sanchez,mustafi and ox going to move. Wenger will be with his kids Giroud, Walcott and Wilshire. With this team even pep and Zidane can’t make up top 10. Gutted!!!!!!!!!

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  42. Me

    I would be happy to see Wenger leave and an interim manager take over for the rest of the season.
    I would also be very happy to see all of our first team sold because there is not one player in that 28 man squad that is worth the effort of keeping.
    I would also like to see the youth players given an opportunity over these over paid foreign mercenaries, and that includes the two new signings. At least the youth team will play with passion and a desire to win for the club.
    The usual crap from the manager and the usual silence from the owners…

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  43. David Rusa

    Since the topic is Wenger I will continue with my treatise of Mr. Wenger. I think the man has become melancholic. Surely why would any manager worth his salt play someone like Oxlade who is said to have stalled on a new contract and leave Kolasinac who is a natural left back? After the two last week’s bad defending why wouldn’t Mertesacker and Mustafi start? Why was Lacazette bought if you can’t start him in an elite game like today’s? Why persist with Welbeck when you know he is incapable of converting his chances? Why was Ground left on the bench when everybody knows his aerial prowess? Can Ozil never be dropped even when he is totally out of the game? If Wenger knew he was incapable of improving the team why did he sign a new contract? Is he, therefore a friend or foe of Arsenal? All teams have been strengthening their squads except Arsenal. Several players such as Mahrez, Lemar, Draxler , Seri etc have been linked with us but Wenger has unashamedly claimed that there will be no more incoming players. Is this the manager who still loves the Club. I highly doubt it. These questions may seem rhetorical but they are all directed at Arsene Wenger and the Arsenal Board. We cannot play the fiddle when Arsenal is burning!

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  44. Middle Man

    I think gmv8 is right , there is something sinister going on behind the scenes , the way the team played today wasn’t just usual wenger’s fault , yes his time is up and he needs to retire but i think there is more to the team than we know , players weren’t communicating with each other on the pitch , they weren’t caring about the game at all , at one of the goals i saw ramsey was talking to another player and not giving a damn about the game at all , there is some internal crisis between players , some probably hate each other , the defenders and the midfield lost the ball too much that it seemed they are doing it deliberately , some players seem to want out but not gone yet that makes me think they want out not because of money or the club but because they hate each other , specially Ox and Sanchez !! i hope whatever it is it get sorted out soon.

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  45. Bur

    The way we were……………do you know somthing thon thing we have as a manager isn’t worth the ink in this post. arrogant, incompetent, liar and clueless comes round about him. Please, please go Wenger. GTF

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  46. COYG_CA

    Insane definition: Starting players wanting out; benching starters just signed; playing players out of position; then mix in the nutty formation with open doors for attack! WTF????

    There is ZERO leadership at AFC now, ZERO! You could see/sense that on and off the field!

    Disgraceful!

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  47. PASKILA

    Looking at the faces of the arsenal fans in the stands you see so much sorrow, pain and anguish!! The million dollar question is “Why are we playing so badly?”. Obviously AW tactics leaves so many questions to be answered. Believe it or not…. AW has nothing new to offer this club anymore. I came to this conclusion many years ago and shared this view with fellow arsenal fans. Unfortunately for us AW is fulfilled with what he has achieved in the past (with the invincibles etc). But we have failed to see that. He obviously has no desire or drive to win the EPL or major trophies. He knows what to do in terms of transfers and offloading underperforming players without any prompting. His game plan is to manage to win/draw some matches and pray that the top teams (chelsea, man u, liverpool etc) drop some points to keep us in the top four…..champions league money. Sadly sadly that plan has backfired….we did not make top 4 last season and its looking unrealistic this season. He is a confused man and thats why his current tactics and team selection is awful. I do not want to believe it but I do get the feeling that some players have lost confidence in him and are no longer playing for him. WENGER NEEDS TO LEAVE AFC FOR THE CLUB TO PROGRESS!!
    BUT WHEN AND HOW…….ONLY WENGER KNOWS!! BUT SURELY THAT DAY WILL COME.

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