Arsenal aiming for Hector Herrera to replace Ramsey makes no sense at all – Think about it

So the Arsenal transfer rumour mill is in full swing and there have been many claims and counter claims, but most fans seem to think that we have real chances of bringing in the free agent Hector Herrera in the summer as our replacement for Aaron Ramsey. I know it is one of many possibilities, but is there any real chance of it happening?

The fact is that Herrera is a very talented player and as a free agent will command a massive wage and probably an incredible signing on fee as well. The Express today listed five possible destinations for the current Porto star. Here are a few snippets from the Express article

With just six months now left to run on his Porto contract, Herrera will be available at no cost at the end of the season. And Arsenal chiefs Sven Mislintat and Raul Sanllehi seem to be interested in adding him to Emery’s squad as they face the prospect of losing Aaron Ramsey for nothing.

Wolves are also interested in bringing Herrera to the Premier League when he quits Porto. And their recent captures of Ruben Neves and Joao Moutinho prove they mean business.

Roma have apparently attempted to put a deal in place for Herrera this month. The Tijuana-born ace is said to have been offered a four-year contract by the Serie A giants.

Roma’s rivals Inter Milan have cast their eye towards Herrera as he approaches the end of his deal. New Inter CEO Giuseppe Marotta is looking for players he can snap up on free transfers.

Two Spanish clubs are keen on Herrera too, with Sevilla and Atletico Madrid lining him up for a switch.

The 28-year-old’s decision on his future will supposedly be determined by who makes him the best salary offer. So Arsenal will likely have to be prepared to spend big to entice him to head to north London.

So, even if we just forget about the possible competition, and there will probably be a lot more than that for a free agent of this quality, but the point I want to make is that he is supposed to be a replacement for Ramsey. We have been led to believe that we have taken Ramsey’s contract off the table because we won’t pay his wage demands and probably a signing on fee too. If we won’t pay that for someone who knows Arsenal inside out and wants to stay, why would we pay it for someone who has never even played in the Premier League, and may take time to adapt?

Am I making sense? Can you see that there is zero chance of this deal happening?

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38 Comments

  1. I suspect the truth is that none of us have a real clue about whoever wil be our next signing. It will come out of “leftfield” imo and I do NOT mean literally a left sided player, though it well might be. I do not take these constant rumours with a mere grain of salt. More a barrel of salt!

    1. Jon Fox remember we had 60% of our target rumours son I suspect some on here might be true… For Hector, he sure is a better number 10 than what we have now in Xhaka so maybe him and a winger in offence and a bloody no nonsense defender will do this winter. what do you think? And pls what happened to the Almiron deal?

      1. Sorry but I do not agree that we have ever got 60% of all the rumoured signings. I doubt that ANY top club has ever done so either. There are more rumours than £millions available to buy them. I strongly doubt that ANYONE outside our club has the faintest idea either. Some pretend to KNOW but I don’t believe them , frankly. I suggest you take little notice of mere rumours and wait to see what, IF ANYTHING, happens!

  2. I will gladly have him but in my opinion he’s a replacement for Xhaka not Ramsey cos we will still need a replacement for Ramsey by the summer

    1. Arsenal already have enough CMs in Ozil, Xhaka, Willock, Elneny, Smith-Rowe, Maitland-Niles, Torreira, Guendouzi and Mkhitaryan

  3. Fingers crossed.
    Rumours continue building up, we are linked to players either ,having contract ending or out of radar, its rumour thats why i wouldnt believe them because am sure we wouldnt land most of this out of contract players, for same reason we are ready to let some player go in order to reduce pressure on wage bill. We have our experience with litch already, most of this players will be looking for high wages to compesate for been free agents.
    I seems to not understand the financial stance and status of the club any longer,just last week we were reported to have bid over £35m for under, and were also targeting £60m Rodrigues, so who is folling who?
    If we have bid such millions already ,just for a player, who says we are financially stucked. Its about the right value, which i trust sven to get, clock is tickling though, i will be happy with 2 quality additions,1 in d wing, right winger/no7 (preferably) and a cb, let Ramsey leave for a few millions this month, plssss UE

    1. Precisely as you say ” we were REPORTED to have bid etc”. That means absolutely NOTHING, as mere reports are ten a penny and the news media has it’s job to do by starting and following rumours. Rumours are simply rumours and all that tells us is that there is a genuine fan interest in knowing. THERE IS A DEMAND TO KNOW, SO THE RUMOUR MONGERS GIVE US A SUPPLY. I AM AS EAGER TO FIND OUT “WHO, WHAT, WHEN, HOW MUCH” ETC AS ANY OTHER FAN. But I take no serious notice at all of mere rumours as most of them are just untrue lies and time wasters. I also speculate and enjoy the fun in doing so, though even whilst doing it I still know it is a waste of time. MAYBE ENJOYABLE, BUT STILL A WASTE! No player ever signed because a single fan wanted him to. Do they!!!

  4. I think it’s possible. But I hope it won’t happen because Arsenal already have too many CMs, despite Herrera’s good performance in World Cup

    Losing a good homegrown and British player like Ramsey is a bad loss. Hence it would be better if Arsenal can buy a player they really need, instead of another CM

    They had better chase a winger. Ismaila Sarr or Samuel Chukwueze could be a bargain option

  5. From what I’ve seen of Herrera he is more like Elneny than Ramsay in terms of playing style.No disrespect to the lad, but do we need another Elneny who it has to be said has at least been decent value for the £4/5 m we paid for him unlike the likes of Mustafi and Xhaka.

    1. Grandad, Do you truly think a poor, modest, midfield trundler who admittedly , DOES TRY, even at around only £5 million, was “decent value”? I do not anyway. I see no point at all in players who are just not good enough . Not remotely near good enough even. Whatever you pay, even if on a free, a poor player regresses rather than improves your team. I fail to see how anyone can think otherwise, apart from perhaps the poor player himself. And also his family who will be grateful for the huge money he earns, (as do ALL Prem players).

  6. What’s baffling is that they’re letting go of Ramsey at all. A dedicated Arsenal man with loads of talent and drive. Utter stupidity, especially considering that we likely do not have the finances to find a like for like replacement since we need so many other reinforcements.

    1. Negotiations broke down and they were unable to agree on a deal. I applaud the board for showing maturity and not repeating the same mistake with Ramsey as they did with Ozil by awarding him a ridiculous, undeserved contract. Ramsey should move on, some of us have been waiting for this day eagerly.

      1. QD well said, Ramsey had about a year’s worth of negotiations and he didn’t seem interested in resigning. He decided to hold the club ransom to his demands, it backfired on him, and now its time for him to move on. 10 years at the club, and many of us have seen enough. No way he’s worth a massive pay raise, and if he wasn’t happy with wages offered, then he can move onward. Personally I’d rather see AMN offered the chance in midfield; he’s a better defender, better technique, speed, and seems to be more disciplined in the position. I think 3 years from now AMN will surpass Ramsey’s quality, and we’ll be overjoyed we chose AMN.

        Of course I could be completely wrong; AMN has the potential to do so, whereas Ramsey has peaked already and won’t have any surges in his quality or consistency; 10 years has shown us that.

        1. Could not agree more. I am always stunned by how wrong the mass of non Arsenal pundits and news media are who make such a fuss and say how wrong we are to let him go. People like Redknapp, Crouch and others who are talking tosh! Well, most of those knowalls have not spent ten years watching every game and wondering WHEN this 28 year old “boy wonder” we have suffered for ten years, with just one good HALF season from him back in 2013-14, will start earning the wage he already gets; never mind the ludicrous and wrong hike he was offered, turned down and now can’t get. GOOD! His goals and assists stats are very poor for a player with this totally undeserved and ludicrous reputation, based mostly on two Cup final winning goals. Well, whoop de doop, so bloody what! He is no good and that is the truth that almost ALL Gooners know full well. Bye bye Aaron and close the door behind you.

          1. If media didn’t have Arsenal to poke, they would have nothing at all. Spuds stadium fiasco an easy target, but not a peep from the dishonest media. Poch without title or trophy glory, and mere crickets from the friendly media. United in manger free fall still after Sir Alex, and media with little to say. Liverpool even money to win the title, and media forgets how they are about to buy the trophy with recent transfer activities.

            We don’t call them “newspapers” here, we refer to them as “fishwraps” for good reason. Fit for fish or lining birdcages in my humble opinion.

            1. I’m not sure why you say that Liverpool will have bought the title if they win. Their net spend is less than ours but clearly they have spent better on two special players (Allison and VVD). They have developed some young homegrown players, sold well and have had some good fortune (nobody could have predicted Saleh would be this good). All in all they have done what most of us want Arsenal to do.

              1. I didn’t say buying the title was bad, merely bypassing how much they spent in recent window or two. Perhaps you missed where we spent £70 milllion this summer, and was it last summer Arsenal made money if I’m correct.

                Yes it was 2 players, but their total was well over £100 million, add Fabhino and Ox, and you can see how much more they spent than Arsenal.

                I was referring to money spent my friend, not final balance. They addressed problem areas, and sales helped, but they spent not saved or pocketed the profits. See the difference?

                1. Ramsey tried to bluff the new hierarchy post Gazidis and lost. Under the new administration, players will hopefully re-sign 18 months out from contract conclusion, or be sold.

  7. I’ve always liked Herrera as a player but
    Arsenal wouldn’t be remotely interested in him
    if he wasn’t a potential bosman for the summer.
    Only three points out of the final CL spot and
    AFC is attempting to secure loan deals and
    prioritizing free transfer deals for the summer.
    Same ol Same ol @ AFC.

    Kroenke is such a freaking twat.

    1. Indeed Ace, Kronke won’t suddenly crack the wallet and give a sh!t just because he owns 100% of the club. He isn’t in it for titles, according to him anyway. He’s like a case of herpes, makes occasional appearances (usually for FA cup late stages), and then vanishes just as suddenly. Both are quite silent as well I might add.

      Despite the early successes of Wenger, Kronke chose not to capitalize on that success, and instead chose to shop in bargain bins and buy retreads with the occasional quality purchase to placate the unruly mob. I think he misspoke when he said “self sustaining,” think he meant “self serving.”

      I bet even Christmas is disappointing at the Kronke household; re-gifting relatives, bargain bin gifts for the fam, and no milk or cookies for jolly ole St. Nicholas. Even Christmas is self sustaining I bet, sheesh.

      1. Haha yes the family will get a voucher for buy one get one free from Walmart ? their motto is why spend when you don’t have to!! ?

        1. No vouchers Sue, that cuts into the profits. Perhaps Kronke would be open to “loaning” gifts during Christmas? No end to the razzing I get from my friends when they hear Arsenal looking to loan a Bara “not good enough” player.

          Ahh, the good ole days when we would buy Barca rejects, now we spend weeks attempting to haggle out loan deals. How the mighty have fallen.

          1. Yes he’d definitely be up for loaning gifts – bloody cheapskate!!
            I can imagine Durand.. and I bet you’re hearing all about how brilliant United are all of a sudden!!
            I don’t know if we’ll get anyone… all these rumours.. to buy or not to buy, or in our case to loan or not to loan!!! It drives me nuts!!!

            1. Just a thought Sue. ALL football fans of ALL clubs are nuts. Worrying about a team and players who don’t even know we exist. Loving a club who continues to poop on us from a very high Kroenke led poop drop. Why do we do it then? Cos we are NUTS, all of us. No other possible reason!

                1. I’m still waiting for my funds transfer in Aus $ from the last time Arsenal won the FA Cup!?
                  Please remind Kroenke and me, how much is it worth to Arsenal to play in the Champions League?
                  Yet Arsenal are pushing for a loan, rather than purchase of a £18 million player and people think we could attract Koubally (apology if spelling wrong)!

      2. January 9, 2019 at 8:38 pm
        I venture to guess that Xmas at jolly ol
        Kroenke’s compound is actually quite ostentatious, considering its more than likely financed by the millions that Ebenezer Stan
        pilfers from the Emirates coffers every year.
        I can see the collection of Kroenkes raising
        there glasses in toast to the future $$$$$
        successes of AFC and subsequently wiping
        the corners of there satisfied mouths with
        hundred dollar bills. ??

        There are very good players available in this
        window that could conceivably push AFC over
        that CL line but unfortunately Mr. Walton will
        continue to count his millions because AFC
        fans are more than willing to annualy perpetuate the accepted status quo at the club. Only a
        Blackpool type response from the fans will
        facilitate the necessary financial upheaval to
        see the Yank severe his ties with the club.

        In the meantime 6th place finishes and
        Thursday night futbol will continue to be the
        financial ambitions of one of the worlds most
        valuable clubs.

        SMMFH

  8. I venture to guess that Xmas at jolly ol
    Kroenke’s compound is actually quite ostentatious, considering its more than likely financed by the millions that Ebenezer Stan
    pilfers from the Emirates coffers every year.
    I can see the collection of Kroenkes raising
    there glasses in toast to the future $$$$$
    successes of AFC and subsequently wiping
    the corners of there satisfied mouths with
    hundred dollar bills. ??

    There are very good players available in this
    window that could conceivably push AFC over
    that CL line but unfortunately Mr. Walton will
    continue to count his millions because AFC
    fans are more than willing to annualy perpetuate the accepted status quo at the club. Only a
    Blackpool type response from the fans will
    facilitate the necessary financial upheaval to
    see the Yank severe his ties with the club.

    In the meantime 6th place finishes and
    Thursday night futbol will continue to be the
    financial ambitions of one of the worlds most
    valuable clubs.

    SMMFH

  9. So I just saw on sky sports that some Brazilian footballer had his foot run over by the medical cart that was meant to help him… bet Harry Redknapp was driving ?
    City only scored 9…. thought they’d at least make double figures… all joking aside I hope they absolutely stuff Chelsea or the spuds in the final!

  10. suddenly Ramsey is the world Best midfielder we are letting go?many of us fans seem too sentimentally confused about Arsenal going forward.we want change yet we don’t want its requirements. you want us to play with more grit and passion and positional discipline yet you all want Ramsey? do you think flicking the ball and bombing forward without results in must big matches is what this club requires?the rumors are linking us with better midfielders,wingers and defenders yet some of us want ozil,Ramsey,mhki,iwobi to be regular starters.I can’t be deluded to think the aforementioned will give us the desired performances we need to become league contenders. I’m in full support of Emery bringing in more players that have defensive awareness when we are dispossessed or under attack.at best many of the current players are bench materials. don’t we all want to see a team that plays with grit and finesse and yet win games?a team where the creative midfielder will put in some brawn and get past 2 -3 opponents so as to deliver the final pass that leads to goal?or a winger who chases down a Liverpool striker and win back the ball at the edge of our box and immediately turns it into our attack?the Arsenal fan base needs to ask itself if they are indeed ready for the change they desire.I for one am ready and not sentimentally attached to underperforming “stars” who just drop their shoulders or look confused when faced with real opposition. what’s wrong in is having a line up like this going into 2019-20 season.
    Leno
    bellerin Nkoluou holding kolasinac
    torreira Herrera
    Suarez
    carrasco. Auba. pavon
    reserve :
    Lacazette
    ozil
    iwobi
    Mustafi
    socratis
    monreal
    Nelson
    new RB..

    1. Well said. If Juventus getting Ramsey for free is true then it will be interesting and funny to see reaction of Christiano Ronaldo when Ramsey runs in the way of Ronaldo’s shot on goal or bumps into his line of movement!

      … and never enough of repeating:
      Why Aaron Wenger’s Ramsey is leaving for free?
      Cos all those years nobody wanted to buy him, that’s why!

    2. i agree letting ramsey go is the right decision but there are really people trying to pass him off as a poor player when that’s simply far from the truth. Juve, Bayern, would not have been interested in him even on a free if he were as bad as people think he is on this forum. And even rival EPL fans hardly slate him for being poor. Most of the abuse he gets is Arsenal fans.Even with limited play time he has better stats than a lot of our midfielders. And i’ll always be grateful to the player that ended our trophy drought.

      1. and before people put words in my mouth im not trying to make him out to be a world beater, but he put in a very solid 10 years for the club and i have little to complain about. class on and off the pitch as well. Just dont get the negativity.

        1. One question; out of those 10 years with the Club, how many matches did he miss due to injury?
          I must add that that assessment shouldn’t include the lost time resulting from the brutal tackle at Stoke City.

  11. , wenger taught me something, until I see a player holding an arsenal shirt with his name on it, I don’t believe anything
    Even if the arsenal, the player, the player’s club all confirm it
    so it’s better to wait for an unveiling than following all this rumours

  12. Hector Herrera is gud in defence but he is not that much gud in front of goal like Ramsey plus Hector Herrera is 29 ideally a young players who have lots of potential for improvement must be preferred.Pablo fornals is the ideal replacement for Ramsey he is very similar to Ramsey plus fornal is also young

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