Dortmund v Arsenal review – Gunners go missing AGAIN!!

Despite Arsenal going for an attacking and adventurous line up, we knew that Borussia Dortmund were going to come at us like a train and give us no time on the ball. So the early and correct call from the ref to book Mikhitaryan for diving rather than give a penalty was a massive relief.

But Dortmund kept the pressure on and we were struggling to get out of our half and they were getting chances and corners. You ned a cool head to cope with their tactics but there were not many on show for Arsenal. Another way is to make them worried about conceding and we did finally start to do that after about 20 minutes.

Our passing game was far from slick, though, and needed to improve if we were to get anything from the game. The Germans missed a couple of great chances and Gibbs nearly got Welbeck in but it looked like a matter of time before we went behind as we kept losing the ball in key areas.

Just before halftime there were signs of improvement and Welbeck got a decent chance after good work by him and Ramsey but disaster struck when we somehow managed to concede after having a throw in near their corner flag and just needing to run the clock down.

After the defence went missing again soon after the break and Dortmund doubled their lead, the game was over and the only real positive is that their finishing had been poor, or else we could have had a serious hiding. As it is, the Gunners have still not got going this season and it looks like we are not going to win our Champions League group yet again.

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      1. The unfortunate part is we all know why we lost, we can count sooo many things but there is no point. Like Napolion Wenger is always right 🙁

        1. Seems like the media are implying that Wenger was stupid for using a SLOW Arteta as protection for another SLOW Mertesacker. I don’t know what to believe again!

      2. Not unexpected,Wenger has not moved with the times,he continually ignores the obvious problems with the squad by signing second rate players like Welbeck.
        A top quality striker would have scored a hatrick tonight,Van Gall must be laughing his socks off.
        Dortmund chased us down the whole game with a team stripped of some of their top players yet still produce a great performance why can’t we.

          1. Wow. I think in the past 2 years the words gutless, spineless, toothless etc. have lost their effect when rating Arsenal.. Can’t come up with any adjectives anymore..

            Unfortunately I now remembered why I kept calling Welbeck Barn door-Welbeck when he played for Manure. He does everything absolutely right until the finish – which so far have been shocking.

            Özil and Ramsey were invisible, Sanchez was horrible (lost possession 3 times IN OUR HALF), not even going to say anything about Arteta and Mert. Oddly Koscielny was very bad as well. He was at fault in the first goal and could’ve done better in the second.

            Wilshere MOTM.

        1. When Michael Owen said Arsenal will not finish the season in the Top-4 people (including me) thought he was talking rubbish. I think Wenger is just too sentimental for my liking. Why on earth will a serious minded football manager adjust his formation (from 4-2-3-1 to 4-1-4-1) just because he wants to give certain players playing time? He drops certain players on the bench and plays some out of position just because of playing Ramsey and Wilshere. Pls do not get me wrong, am not saying that Ramsey and Wilshere are bad but I think we only need one of the two in a match, it’s just like playing Lampard and Gerard together in a match.

          It is high time Wenger begins to show some seriousness and stop putting the round peg in a square hole

    1. We are not going to progress and become a big team with Wenger as manager

      No tactical awareness vs the big boys
      Always getting hit on the counter and useless ourselves at them even though that’s the best way to score a goal
      Players out of position
      And don’t get me started on transfers and always trying to pass through small gaps and not using width

      Same shxt different day

      1. yeah im not bothered to be honest. we have no chance in this competition.
        literally more chance i would turn gay

    2. God awful performance. Cohesiveness was not there, passing was terribly inaccurate (similar to Besiktas game), players falling asleep, poor finishing. One of the worst games I’ve seen in a long time. No positives out of that… Chamberlain should be starting along with Sanchez.

      1. Previous thoughts which I now regret thinking…
        “We don’t need vermalean, we’ll sign someone else”
        “Ozil will only be on the left for the everton game”
        “We don’t need fabregas we have ozil”
        “Welbeck could be our new sturridge”
        “No reus, gundogan or hummels, WE’VE GOT TO WIN”
        If there’s one thing arsenal is good for, its making me look like a right idiot…

    3. Here come the knee jerk brigade! Dortmund destroyed Real Madrid here 2-0 and it’s just poor form plus the team didn’t show up.

      1. CDM area EXPOSED twice, they scored twice lucky they didnt score more……Arteta not good enough, stop covering up for Wenger.

      2. that dortmund reached the UCL final and had reus, gundogan, gotze, lewandowski, hummels, pisek (cnt spell) and schmelzer (cnt spell) all playing. If we played that team today it would have been another 6-0.
        Honestly no BIG team consistently has these kind of performances you have to start looking at the manager.

      3. It’s not knee jerk reaction,it’s utter frustration at yet another shocking performance against a top side.
        What does Wenger bring to the table anymore when the big games are played.
        He gets out thought tactically almost every time,it’s not a coincidence the big teams walk all over us.

    4. Whatever about the result it was great to see an enthusiastic bunch of skilled players properly organised by a top class manager………..DORTMUND!

    5. Just watched klopp’s interview

      Now im dreaming of him wearing arsenal colours

      I love wenger for what he’s done for our club, but the grass looks a hell of a lot greener on the other side right bout now 🙁

    6. I’m not an AKB, neither an AOB. I simply call a spade a spade: Wenger is tactically redundant, mentally disabled and generally overly incompetent to live up to the modern requirements of a football manager.

    7. Who has enough arguments to defend wenger?

      When players are underperforming theres only one responsable. Stamford bridge will be a massive rape.

    8. Excuse me…it was only Dortmund and not BM, RM or Barca!!! And yet we were outplayed, outpaced, out of sort…the whole team need to revamp and wrong strategy was deployed. Forget the 4-1-4-1 format, it hasn’t worked so far and I’m doubtful it is suitable for the this team. Try 4-1-3-2 or 4-4-2 or whatever it takes to win. It was such a pathetic show and AW should be held accountable and responsible for this poor showing.

    1. There’s no player in our team to carry the ball from defence to attack and no movement from other players whilst one has the ball

      We need a di Maria or Barkley type of cam the modern cam ll

      How can I see all of this but not Wenger a man on 7.5m a year and established coach

  1. Defend as a unit, attack as a unit. Why is this rocket science to Arsene Wenger. Who goes to Dortmund with ten free roles on the pitch.

    Not a Wenger out person but #WengerAdapt!

    1. The amount of changes and good looking football Dortmund played sigh that was us time ago .. Now where slow boring and predictable and create next to nothing in chances and have guys like giroud and welbeck who need about 15 to score 1

      1. not really surprised about those missed chances. Evryone here knows that welbeck is a version of giroud with skill and pace.

      2. its so sad that we arent even exciting to watch anymore. What has happened to this club? I’m happy to go through tough times if were heading in a direction but we’re just stalling and getting worse under Wenger.

  2. i cant believe people are suprised. we have suffered the most embarraseing defetas under wenger but he is still here playing the same tactics.
    we have never replaced gilberto with a top DM, we have never replaced cole with a top LB, we apparenty did not need fabregas because we have plenty of midfielders and we sell our best players to manchester while they flog us the ones the dont want.
    And to add to our humilitain, gazidis gets his bonus every year with the never ending increase on ticket prices.

    1. Agreed! The Arsene-balls-lickers are the biggest obstacle to Arsenal regaining its former glory. COYG put the club before Wenger,

  3. Half the time the team just waits for the ball to come to them and lets Dortmund apply pressure. We need to show more urgency and please put a bit more squad rotation, especially since we have Villa this weekend

    1. no we were shit against liverpool against chelsea bradford blackburn list goes on .

      difference is under wenger we look vunerable to a battering. unlike the graham era

      im not excited about going to the bridge

      1. Against those teams we actually a few spells of good football. We literally couldnt string 5 passes together today. A huge huge wake up call needed and that wake up call is WENGER OUT!!!!!!!!!

  4. Defence was poor. Mertesacker and Arteta cant play these high tempo game. They just dont have the pace. Too much space in the middle…

  5. Ozil must be dropped for Ox, Ox is actually a better player than Ozil, Ozil’s attitude is appalling, I genuinely wouldn’t care if we sold Ozil.

    1. how is ox a better player?
      when the f has he led europe in assists constantly since 2010?? please explain. i love comments like that. football is a form game, ox is a young lad but cant touch oezil w a 40.foot-pole.

      unless you re talking about work ethic. then that s a valid comment. but then comment smartly, not “ox is actually a better player.” come on. i must stop before i ramble on too much

      1. They will keep blaming players. These deluded fools don’t realise, that players like Ozil are deflated. He is definitely not happy with his new role and it shows. The problem in this team is the manager.

    2. Give Sanchez another 10 games in this team and he will be as big a basket case as Ozil. Wenger is slowly bringing some of the best players in the world down to his level.
      (PS I don’t blame Ozil, the list of players who are disintegrating in this Arsenal team is growing by the game.)

    1. Didn’t it just sum the night up when the camera panned over to Wenger picking his nose in the dugout while Klopp clapped his players on from the touchline.

  6. We don’t look like a team anymore!!!
    As always we concede a counter-attacking goal.

    Wenger never learns from mistakes.
    I don’t bear his “tactics” anymore!!!

  7. Let’s not blame the wrong people here. Big European away nights are always tough and you’re always up against it. You need to take your chances. We had 3 or 4 clear cut chances Welbeck failed to finish and he didn’t offer enough going forward today. Is he to blame? Partially, yes. But also the club needs to be blamed for not bringing in a top quality striker – Immobile cost Dortmund the same amount as Welbeck cost us. The gulf in class there was obvious.

      1. And thats the main problem. Immobile couldnt get a strike against average german oposition clubs but he easily gets his first goal with dortmund against us…

  8. When did our defense go from average…to atrocious? That was absolute shit defending.

    This game was a case of who wanted it more. Dortmund simply just wanted it the more than us and this is what we deserve.

    Terrible team effort, can’t say much more.

    1. Because they had zero cover – Arteta was absolutely awful. I mean really terrible. Mertesacker’s pace was exposed and Koscielny didn’t have the best game.. But Arteta was just awful..

        1. I thought Koscielny wasn’t as good as he was at the weekend, though I still think he was good. He maybe could have done better for the first goal, though it certainly wasn’t his fault. I just think he was fantastic at the weekend, but he was by far our best defender today.

          I think it’s completely unacceptable that their strikers were allowed to run almost 30 yards without even being closed down, let alone tackled.

          That run by Mkhitaryan in the last few minutes where he ran from about 39 yards out to around the 6 yard line whilst Mertesacker watched and backed off before a last-ditch tackle by Chamberlain just cannot be allowed to happen. That wouldn’t be allowed to happen in a kid’s Sunday league match, let alone the Champions League..

      1. But Wenger has just made Arteta club captain and Mertesackim (sic) vice captain…..our 2 worst players on the night. Where do we go from here with a manager as clueless as that.

        1. Wenger seemingly acknowledged we need a powerful DM. Whether it will happen, I’m not sure. Us fans need to apply the pressure on him and on the club to let them know that we DEMAND a quality DM in January. Not the summer, January. We, or ‘they’ have waited too long as it is.

          Gazidis likes to tout that we have money to spend, he has no excuse.

    1. Real Madrid lost 2-0 in Dortmund last year. It’s a very difficult place to get a result. Let’s not underrate our opponents here.

      1. Dortmund had hummels, reus and lewandowski. Imagine if they had played today lol also madrid were complacent we had everything to play for.

        1. Well over the past 2 seasons Arsenal were the only team to beat Dortmund at home in the Champions league. They’ve seen off Madrid 3 times, City, Ajax and Napoli.

          We were outclassed and were awful today but it’s not as if we were playing Norwich. They’re a very difficult team to beat, even without their best players.

          1. None of the teams you mentioned were completely outclassed like this. This isnt like when we lost 2-0 to napoli, today we should have conceeded 5 or 6.
            Why do we keep producing performances like this…
            Its really worrying.

      2. lets not forget they had no hummels , no reus, no gundogan and blajo whatever .
        we got outclassed in every department

  9. So. We hate Welbeck this week? We loved him after the England game, and he would be world class, but his bad game tonight proves he will never be quality. Sanchez was mediocre too, he was probably a waste, right?

    Just trying to keep up with the hate bandwagon.

    Our do we hate Jack again?

    1. We should stop jumping around player to player and just come to the true conclusion. Our loopy manager is the reason we suck.

      1. Couldn’t be a squad dealing with 3 big signings struggling to learn to play off each other, right? Sanchez looks good but doesn’t seem too sure how to include his team mates yet. But everyone here is so quick to knee jerk reactions, so yeah, I don’t understand football so it is easier to say Wenger out or so and so are rubbish

        1. wenger been holding us back for years its nothing new and its not a knee jerk reaction. Theres been a split in fanbase over this for years and years. Its honestly a waste of time to jump at different players each game when it usually comes down to Wenger tactics and horrible decision making.

    1. Definitely not Dortmunds B team. I’m a Dortmund fan as well. Make sure you know what you’re talking about before saying dumb things

  10. I hope some fickle fans can now see how useless arsenal football club is with senseless manager. May you’ll should renew ur season ticket come next year with mr. Bean still in charge

  11. Crap performance, crap result, no grit.

    Mood lightened by Podolski’s lost boot.

    Keystone cops..

    Awful.

    CDM would help, but we just don’t seem to be playing as a team, and when the going gets tough, we get found out.

    1. We did well against City at the weekend, but that was at home. Away in big games, a holding midfielder is a must. It’s not just defensively that a powerful player can help – when we were trying to break out we were just pushed off the ball and lost it far too easily and were countered. A powerful DM would not be pushed around, enabling them to actually move up the pitch with the ball and launch counter-attacks for our team…

  12. We were playing with a big gaping hole in our midfield. That’s what you get when you don’t invest in a DM. We’ve not dominated a single game since the beginning of the season. A sign of the things to come 😉

  13. it was coming..sticking to jack-arteta and ramsey in centre WTF..no strength – no pace – WHY? INSISTING ON THEM ? SMALL MIDFIELD ..WHY NOT A REAL DM WHO GIVE SECURITY TO THE BACK FOUR? WHY? ANYONE KNOWS APART FROM THE COACH? OZIL HAS TO PLAY IN THE MIDDLE AND DOES IT. SO MANY DMS IN TH MARKET BUT WE JUST BUY ATTACKERS , FAIR ENOUGH THIS MUST CHANGE ,WE MUST BE HEARD ..EVERY YEAR SINCE GILBERTO OR VIERA LEFT no DM being purchase.IF YOU ARE NTO GOOD TO PLAY FOR ARSENAL THEN STAY ON THE BENCH OR SEND THEM ON LOAN PERIOD.it hurts to see this kind of performances..really hurts

  14. Its alright. Calm down pantyhose. Atletico lost to Olympiakos and Pool won by thuggery via last minute Gerrard penalty.
    My advice-
    Calm down. Dont abuse. Have a drink. And sleep.
    Tomorrow we can Annalise.
    Goodnight.

  15. PLAYING 4 IN THE WIDE WITH ATTACKING MENTALITY YET HARDLY CROSS THE BALL. WHATS THE USE OF HAVIN 4 WIDE PLAYER IF WE ARE NOT CROSSING THE BALL… EVEN IF ARSENAL CROSS THE BALL THE FAR POST IS NEVER COVERED…

  16. Just consider this:

    What is the point in us playing Mertesacker? You would keep him in the side if he actually used his size and score 10 goals a year from set pieces but he doesnt even do that. Instead he is just a slow, pu$$y. He has been terrible ever since he got back from World Cup

    1. Really? REALLY!? As a Dortmund fan as well, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about haha

      1. Really? Because he caused havoc all day to our defenders and scored a goal. More than I can say for any of our offense besides maybe sanchez…wilshere tried but failed.

  17. immobile,diego costa,madzukic and falcao available in the market, wenger buys danny.
    we look so fragile!! mert, arteta and ozil look like black holes in the pitch. also great performance by sokratis.

    1. Immobile has scored one goal tonight, he has looked like garbage otherwise. Don’t be an idiot. Costa was never for sale. Jose tapped him up long ago. Mandzukic is hugely overrated and Falcao isn’t worth 390k a week, get out of here. BUT DEY RATED GUD IN FIFA, WONGER OUT. Welbeck has struggled to find the back of the net in 2 games, but you all wouldn’t get of his nuts when he bagged two for England.

      1. Costa was available for the right price tag and ur an idiot to believe that madzukic is overrated. i mean atletico paid for him the same as wenger did for welbeck and you are calling madzukic overrated?? LOL

  18. Klopp and Dortmund showed us how to play football tonight. Nothing but respect for them. High intensity pressing, desire, quality and pace. Everything we lacked tonight. The current team is good. Nothing I’ve seen so far this season changes my view that this team could go places. We are just playing a formation that doesn’t work. Wenger is trying to accommodate jack and Rambo but is leaving the rest of the team uncomfortable. We have to experiment. However, Wenger has experimented and it hasn’t worked. He now needs to revert to a formation that we know works or one that fits the team better.

    1. My biggest problem tonight was that it was obvious how Dortmund were going to try and play and we didn’t come up with any plan to combat it. Where was the quick passing, retaining possession to wear them out so they don’t have the energy to press and counter? We just hit the ball up the pitch and it came straight back at us for 90 minutes. I’m not a WengerOut guy, but we were tactically inept today.

  19. Its going to be even worse against the chelsea with a striker who didn’t need ages to adapt to premier league football

  20. Only Sanchez and Ox work there socks off to get the ball back. Absolute f#cking disaster !! We honestly need to sort this sh#te out we sit so deep it’s too easy. Dortmund showed us how it’s done tonight fighting for every ball !! Arteta was out of place last season f#uck knows what’s gonna happen this year !!

  21. Can we go back to 4-3-3?? Ramsey and Wilshere cannot play together. We need ox to start more since we lack pace on the wings. Welbeck needs to step up! We could have lost by 10 if it weren’t for the keeper.

    Wake up Wenger

  22. Will someone please tell me what the F’ that was???? There are really no words to describe what an abject performance that was. Wenger couldn’t get the deals done before the season and get proper backup, we NEED a DM in the worst possible way and where is the halftime bollocking that drives the team to 180 degree turnaround in the second half?

    Why there is no site of Campbell getting on the pitch????? Why is Ozil still being played on the wing… And having to Provide cover for Bellerin?????

    Klopp must be our next manager!!!!!

  23. Dont f’ing complain guys. just went to a bar in germany and looked like a complete twat for supporting arsenal. how have i deserved this ?

  24. What do you expect, Wenger, when you exhaust your players. There are more than 11 players in the squad.
    Laughable team selection.

  25. My match review…. Team was pathetic today. Every single one of them. Can’t even put 2 passes together. Lucky to lose 2-0. Dortmund could have scored 6-7. Players need rest badly and rotation. Many players are rotting on the bench esp rosicky and Campbell.

  26. There will be lots of emotional comments on here tonight but I for one am fed up with le fraud lying and misleading us year after year.im fed of with his excuses and even more fed up with him playing players out of position and not buying players to cover obvious gaps in the squad.Wenger Out !

  27. Well done Souness – Spot on!! Attitude of the players is terrible!! Too many similar type players, not enough pace.

  28. Roberto Martinez, Jurgen Klopp, Diego Simeone. We need these men to lead us forward.

    Arsene repeatedly says that Ozil is one of the best 10s in the world, yet continues to play him out wide. He then plays like shyte and you muppets jump on his back for playing poorly in a position that’s not his.

    This 4-1-4-1 is clearly benefitting only Jack, and yet we still go out in the same shape. Of course we get exposed.

    Ramsey had an absolute nightmare and has played poorly all season, still gets the start. No chance that Mesut in the middle plays like that.

    Bellerin, Arteta, Merteslower should’ve never been in the position to play as poorly as they did, because they should never be on the field in a game like this. Joachim Loew has the sense to drop Per, but Arsene keeps playing him. Arteta too slow and late on every challenge. Gives us no power, no pace. Bellerin shoulda never been in in a game of this magnitude.

    Welbeck’s going to retreat into a hole now. Alexis tried to do too much.

    Lineup for Sunday versus Aston Villa:

    4-2-3-1

    Scez or Ospina

    RB – Chambers
    CB – ARSENE SHOULDA SPENT
    CB – Koscielny
    LB – Gibbs
    CDM – ARSESNE SHOULDA SPENT
    CM – OX
    ACM – Mesut
    LW – Sanit
    RW – Alexis
    CF – Campbell

    Manager – SHOULDA BEEN CHANGED IN THE SUMMER

    1. Klopp is like the same guy as Wenger…….. If you want to talk about sick in their own tactics, watch a few Dortmund games before typing out whatever rubbish spills out of your head

      1. Klopp is passion and hunger for glory overload You dont know him as a manager, so why do you pretend as if you would know.

      2. You are right SP. Klopp is a younger Wenger – not sure why the AOBs would want a Wenger 2.0. Doesn’t spend enough for the numpty fans, sells his best players. Klopp would take one look on this site and just go “nnnaaaaahh”. Why would he give up Dortmund – look at the stadium support, better class of supporters all round. No, the AOB brigade deserve someone far more crass and in-your-face – is there a Van Gaal prodigy out there??

  29. I have been saying the same thing, we have been playing the most boring football ever since WENGER became Arsenal manager..

    Sinve Nasri and Cesc left in that 2010 summer I have not been comfortable watching us play.. We can’t keep possession, we get dominated by any half decent team (Swansea, Southampton, Everton, Spuds, etc..)

    I just want that Arsenal back, we have adapted this a mechanical and somewhat robotic style of play that has no direction, no control, just slow players running around…

  30. Same old Arsenal, nothing will change, wait and see at the start of October when we get smashed by Chelsea, we have nothing, nothing against the big teams, we have no leaders in the team, all of the players are too scared. Don’t even get me started on Arteta, he’s horrific. Sad excuse for a captain and a DM and a footballer for that matter.

  31. i dont mind us losing, but to be dominated like that is just painful to watch, Aletico also lost but it was a close match… I am confused on what to think.

  32. Very poor performance again defensively absolutely awful we are going nowhere this season struggle to make top 4 Wenger out Wenger out Wenger out say we want Wenger out!!

  33. WE DON’T HAVE A MANAGER, IT’S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.. WE HAVE PLAYERS SUCH AS ROSICKY, CAMPELL, CHAMBERLAIN ETC WHO HAS THE DESIRE TO PLAY AND KILL THEMSELVES FOR THE CLUB, BUT WENGER HAS HIS OWN SET OF PLAYERS, AND THIS PLAYERS ARE BOMB.

  34. The problem is.. For too many seasons this has been the norm.. An embarrassing night in Europe or in the league .. 8-2, 5-1,6-3 etc etc..
    The team simply aren’t good enough.. The manager has always believed in his philosophy.. The manager has been great in the past – maybe 10-15 years ago..!!!
    The game has changed immensely over that period but Wenger is still trapped in the ridiculous mentality that HE knows best..
    We are poor from back to front.. But the players are pretty good and with the right motivation from the right manager we would be very very good..
    Unfortunately we are a million miles away from winning anything again..!

  35. I am going to be called an over reactor and a Cesc fan boy, but I will continue saying it, I was calling on Wenger to sign Cesc all summer, he just controls and leads.

    I said we did not have a midfielder better than Cesc and that if a chance came about to sign a player of Cesc’s caliber just go out and do it..

    I just don’t know, but we have been lacking direction and our football has been dire since Nasri and Cesc era came to an end..

    No control in our midfield.. damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn..

    So frustrating…

    1. I admit I said no to Cesc myself. But that was because we had Ozil, Wilshere and Ramsey. And not to forget Cazorla and Rosicky. What are we going to do with all these central midfield players? Unfortunately, it seems Cesc was born to play in England while Ozil looks to be a poor fit for the EPL/Arsenal day by day 🙁

  36. Arsenal Tactics:
    Starts from RB and move forward and is covered by DM. Everybody will be moving on the right this makes LB the only guy who can produce from left.

    Problems: On the break both LB and RB are out of position, our DM is both slow and not strong enough to out muscle opponents counter, Per is good but Top teams have forwards with better speed and better quality to beat him.

    Solution:
    1) Don’t play player out of position
    2) Play quicker CBs while playing top teams or play deep.
    3) New DM, no more discussion on this.
    4) New LW or LM who will stay on the left so that the attack will be more balanced and has the ability to help LB.

  37. Why Wenger is still playing Ozil on the flank while we have players like Chambo, Campbell, Rosisky, Casorla, Podolski on the bench… I Think Wenger is becoming really insane!!!!

  38. Haha…..
    this result made my day, I hope more akin to this follow(apologies for those who actually care about AFC), regrettably, I have reached the rationalisation that only this reality will push the incompetent imbecile out of Arsenal football club. Mind you, I am not a banana fan and I have never had much regard for the clown who’s very name irritates the living hell out of me. Chase the clown out! He’s clearly out of his depth. Watch out for the AKB brigade alongside their next instalment of incredibly patronising verbose.

  39. Mertasacker is A JOKE!!! ARSENe Is a complete JOKE of a manager; the same kind of Goals conceeded 4 d lat 4yrs; arsene is a dissappointment to arsenal

    1. hes singin to them…with backing vocals from kelis
      I hate you so much right now
      I hate you so much right now
      Ahhhhh…

  40. A DF, DM, STRIKER and a dominant CM is what I was asking for all summer..

    ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. i said bad move when we signed ozil who is slow and doesnt track back when we needed a striker and i got slated.
    we signed arteta last minute of the transfer window to replace fabregas even thogh he is average at best.
    I said winning the FA cup was a curse in disguise and as much as i would like to be wrong it looks like i am right again.
    The big clubs are moving forward where we are going in the other direction.
    kroenke and gazidis need to get out of AFC while we stil have a bit of dignity left.

  42. Wenger picked the wrong team is what was wrong.
    everyone was playing just like their usual self in the same way u saw it in Man City.

    There’s Cazorla, ox, Chambers available, but instead, wenger opted for Ozil, Ramsey, Arteta.
    ozil wasn’t so much the problem in terms of form, but this time it’s ramsey and Ozil both not quite sure what they role in the game is.

    I’m not going to say Ozil or Ramsey played like sh*t this time because all their lacking performance is more because of wenger than anything.
    Ozil is being used as a defense to attack connector more that an attack initiator, the later being the thing he’s better at. He’s basically giving all the chances to start something to Wilshere and sanchez, who looked lively, but the problem is both of them could find Welbeck, who seems to be in wrong place more than you want him to be.
    Ozil didn’t do great, but he didn’t do anything wrong either.

    Ramsey, who’s better running down midfield now does much less of that because:
    A)sanchez is hardworking enough in front.
    B)Wilshere dribbling down mid lane is taking away Ramsey’s room.

    I’m worried that playing them together will eventually lead to Ramsey losing confidence because of him being lost in his role on the pitch.

    Both of these is wenger’s problem. there’s Cazorla to pick instead of Ozil, who although didn’t do anything wrong per say, is definitely exhausted from the man city game and should’ve given OX the chance.

    Ox should’ve been played down the right. Not only could he cover for bellerin in defense if needed, but his off the ball running is more on the flanks than through the middle which could’ve made ALL the difference, because wilshere is already doing what ramsey is.

    Arteta is and Mertesacker simply couldn’t keep up with the pace, and at least 1 of them should’ve been benched.

    I would prefer benching Arteta over Mertesacker, as the problem in this game for us is not just fatigue, but also the oppositions’ constant harass causing us to lose possession.

    play Chambers in DM, sit back as a 1/2 centre back along with mertesacker and Koscielny, then the midfield harass would’ve been less effective, and there can be a bit more steel.

    arteta’s role as a deep plying playmaker is also overlapped by one of wilshere and Ramsey on the field. That basically render’s arteta’s role useless, and he’s reduced to a mere ball passer, as evident in this game.

    so then the game would still be a 4-1-4-1, with Chambers DM and still mid duo jack and aaron.
    lw sanchez and rw ox.

    than you would have both flanks bombing forward on and off the ball along with jack or aaron dribbling or running down the middle.
    when the harass gets really aggressive, we can compress and let one of wilshere and ramsey stay deeper.

    without that space from behind, welbeck is rendered completely useless, as we all know he isn’t the guy who can finish under lots of pressure. we should’ve played a tad bit deeper instead of high pressing to preserve some energy, and play more through the flanks to burst through with pace.

    dortmund’s pressing will eventually lead to over commiting, and that’s when we can hit in the counter.

    this won’t lead to a sure win, but i’m sure it give us more chances that we had this game.

    Yet again, wenger doesn’t understand that it takes 1 game for another team to reveal your weakness and you’ll have to make changes to avoid being caught out.

    what bothers me even more is that wengr had the guts to let bellerin play RB over Chambers(and chambers is on the bench), but ended up not resolute enough to altogether get rid of arteta and op for chambers playing DM as well.

    1/2 assing killed us today.

        1. Mate there are many suggestion from fans and football experts out there, but the problem is Wenger, he doesnt give a fack, he himself has said it many times.

          “I dont care for critisem. I dont read papers !!! ” He doesnt allow former players to work with him. Its all about, him, him, him.

        2. lol calm down son, i’m mad as hell, but i ain’t reading all that, that is what we call a article (book/atlas of words) this is a comment section, so be a little less delicate when someone points that out in the future.

          Not buying

        3. p.s calling me a little twat me me lol, cheers for that.
          That article must have taken ages too write as well lol

  43. I wonder how bad we have to be before the likes of Ox, Rosicky and Campbell get a start? The Ox usually does more in the 20 mins than Ozil, and Ramsey put together in an entire game. Apart from those two very important goals, Ramsey has been shocking, and cannot pass a ball any more! Ozil does nothing on the wings, but yet Wenger persists…why, I don’t know. Arteta is just bad. Welbeck was rubbish before he arrived, so why did we sign him? And so on, and so on…

    We’ll seriously struggle for 4th this season, unless Wenger starts using some tactics, dropping players, and using players in their right positions.

    1. Totally agree. There needs to be accountability after a performance like this. Carloza, Rocisky and Diaby to start on the weekend. We’ve got a deep squad in most positions, time to start using it.

  44. seriously how can any of you be picking out any individual player for criticism from tonight’s game THE FACT IS THE WHOLE TEAM WAS VERY VERY POOR so its unfair to pick any player out

  45. Mert slow… Arteta slow.. Flamini slow… Wilshere slow…. Ramsey slow…. Ozil slow…. Monreal slow… Giroud slow….. etc..

    It’s not there fault anymore, Wenger is just messing up. He just seems to have lost it. How an you have such slow players in the same team?

    smh

    1. it’s not the pace that matters, it’s making the right runs at the right time.

      too many ball passers, to few off the ball runners to beat defenses has been our problem since 2 seasons ago.
      now we have the players to run at defense more, wenger simply thinks playing Welbeck, Sanchez up front is good enough ignores Ox.

      Then wenger plays a midifield trio with 1 DM, who isn’t pacey, nor strong, nor is he a great long range passer anymore Make it even worse, he plays 2 box to box cms who does exactly what the DM should’ve been doing as well and more. and both of the b2b players are competing again’st each others game..

      so with a malfunctioning midfield trio that has all 3 of them trying to initiate attacks but no one to run for the ball, no wonder nothing is working and everyone plays like shit.

      Wenger plz, sort it out.

  46. Pacey opponent +(Areteta+Per)= Big trouble.
    What was going on with Wojiech Nauer tonight??

    We suck, only one person to blame though – Wenger.
    He buys the players, trains them, motivates them etc etc……..

  47. Once up on a time, i was listening to a wise ,, Red nose,, of a manager. He said that the most important person in the club is the manager alone.

    No, Ozil is not at fault, no, its not even Slow motion Merti, not even Jack the bad boy who dares to lip up a ciggaret once in a while, not even our nice guy mr Ramsey who seems to be like the old one we are use to know. Neither that Clown of a striker Giroud, which i am already srry for calling him like that bec he is not at fault.

    I am hundret procent sure. I could bet my life to it. That even if Wenger would have bought the likes of Ibra, Yaya Toure, Kompany. Arsenal would still having the same problems like now.

    Just understand people that Arsenal as a big club is finished. You will witnes big and small teams comming at the Emeritates and giving us hell.

    Wenger has become a Curs to the team. And if you think i am overeacting, just take your time for a second, and try to think. What is the differance of today with what of the last year. Fa cup you say, 42m investment to win it they never say.

    I remember the fans on this site calling for patience. Believe in him, he will do it! In Arsene We trust. My question is , how are you able to trust? And trust in what? TTTTUUURN UP FOR What!!!( Dope song).

  48. Can’t say much more than what’s already been said.. The only positive for me was the fact that I could only watch glimpses of the match due to bad network. I wouldn’t take in 90 minutes of that cr@p football!! Wenger is the one to blame lads, no one else. He needs to be replaced as soon as possible, if we want to save the season and the club’s reputation. I’m starting to believe that Stan Kroenke isn’t an Arsenal fan at all!!!

  49. i can pick out every one of the arsenal players in that game that lost the ball needlessly today even including the subs we just got outplayed had no game plan ultimately it has to be the manager we struggle in every big game .

  50. Our players just can’t read the game, they just can’t press, they just wait for for the opposition to make a mistake in possession and then we can get the ball back. Our players just seem clueless, slow as fck etc…

    smh

  51. I am so sick of this, i facking love football and Arsenal. But this Shet is simple killing me off. Facking bastards of Wenger and board. If i could go back in time and tllk to my self back then as a kid i would beat the living shet of my self for adoring the likes of Henry and Berkamb and co.

  52. How do you expect Arsenal to play well? In case you didn’t notice Wenger is the manager. Wengerites are to blame for the demise of this club. The writting’s on the wall. Wenger’s past it.
    Wenger himself knows he can’t deliver at the top level anymore but he didn’t have the dignity to do the right thing and leave Arsenal for a young manager with new ideas and hungry for success. Instead Monsieur Wenger has become more selfish and greedy at the expense of Arsenal.
    Wenger is a fraud and people supporting him are an embarrassment.
    Just imagine when Arsenal face Chelsea. Mourinho should be more professional this time and let his players do the job instead of allowing them to take their foot off the pedal. Why 6×0 when the team can score 10?

    1. @wongadownfall.
      “Mourinho should be more professional this time and let his players do the job instead of allowing them to take their foot off the pedal. Why 6×0 when the team can score 10?”

      Best comment I’ve read all day. Made me loooolll my belly out!

  53. What is really disappointing is that we had the system of a good team last year. We lacked pace up front and a better pivot. The pivot issue was not addressed but the pace issue was addressed directly. If we had carried on where we left off we would have been stronger.

    Instead Wenger has changed formation to a formation that doesn’t work and has negated all the positives out of last season.

  54. It’s clear that the current midfield is not working.. Arteta is garbage and should be dropped immediately!
    We need pace in midfield.. All our midfielders today were average in speed.. Ramsey wilshere arteta and ozil have very little pace between them we were totally overrun tonight and will be many times if we keep this midfield..
    We need the ox with wilshere and maybe rosicky or podolski.. Players that can interchange and move the ball quickly.. It was a painful watch tonight and only the manager is to blame..
    I feel sorry for Wenger.. It’s a sad end to what was a great manager.. He should leave with his head high now..!
    Wenger we all know it’s your holy grail to win this competition.. Unfortunately you are too stupid to realise where the problems are.. And if I were a bookmaker I’d give punters 1,000,000 / 1 for arsenal winning either the league or champions league..!

  55. @Ks-Gunner

    I rest my case…
    Spot on.
    Even we get some results, because we will, we will always seem weak and easy for the taking… What’s the point?
    Top club? Is Arsenal a top club?
    Yes… Financially… And I have my doubt because we have a unpowered manager who acts like we were a struggling financial middle table team !!!
    Go figure !
    His wages does not relate to the status of the team on a sporting aspect.
    Ridiculous !

  56. Its alike we had one defender all game, KOSSY was all over the pitch, I did not see Mertesacker.

    What has happened to Mertesacker? My goodness he looks out of it. He looks and seems clueless..

  57. we need a mirical and the only realistic mirical that will transform this team is abou diaby i am dead serious, remember i used word mirical because we need diaby injury free . trust me even if we started rosisky ox caz it wont make a big difference because they all play similar it is only ABOU DIABY who is different to the rest diaby glides up and down the pitch effortlessly has great passing and dribbling skills and doesn’t get bullied .

  58. Why is silent stan so silent ?
    Why did the lady (forgot her man) major shareholder leave ?
    Why was Dein forced out ?
    Why is wenger the highest paid manager in the world ?
    Why didn’t we ATTEMPT to by a defensive minded player on deadline day ?

    FACKING CONSIPRACY LADS, CONSPIRACY, Arsenal cam’t be this bad.
    I want Highbury Arsenal back!

  59. Mertesacker is slow, slow for the BPL…
    We should have KOscielny and another fast determinant CB.

    As we were selling Vermealen, Wenger assured us he would be replaced.

    Total miss management and lake of professionalism.

    We are the smallest squad in the BPL with Burnley !!!!!!!

    That is just beyond the comedy and it is just not serious.

    THOSE NEXT 3 YEARS ARE GOING TO BE PAINFUL, GET READY FOR WHATEVER.

    The deluded twat is 63-64 years old and will not change…

    Deal with it.

    The “In Wenger we trust” fools (band of delusional, misguided fans, calling him the “professor”… Wake the f*ck up).

    1. i made this poem for u lockay…..

      Don’t blame it on the sunshine
      Don’t blame it on the moonlight
      Don’t blame it on the good times
      Blame it on the boogie

        1. #1 mistake was by wenger: by not rotating the players that bust their guts out on saturday, he did 2 things:

          1. overplayed his favorites: they were tired, listless, not up for it,
          2: p*ssed off campbell, pod, roziscky, oxlade… – they would have been fresh and supplied the energy and passion that ramsey/wilshire/ozil (and even sanchez) didnt have today.

          [and of course thats on top of the systemic long-term problems like not having a DM, forcing him to play arteta, and the slow mertesacker getting picked on by dort]

    2. Yeah let’s all go lock horns together, rsenal fans should unite together, for crying out loud
      Stop making comments us against us, tedious.

      1. Team for tonight should be:
        Bell, Mert,Kos,Gibbs
        Wilshere,Rosicky,santi
        Sancez, well,Ox

        With this team we would won.

    3. end of the day BFG and kos are fine in CB so long as we get a proper CDM i think throwing in abou diaby would of been way better than that piece of shit Arteta even flamini would of atleast broke up counters better than that idiot Arteta.

      1. Arteta never was, still isn’t a DM. He just doesn’t have the build. Anyone know where Flamini was tonight? It’s beyond me why Wenger doesn’t invest in a DM, even someone who has no idea about football at all, could tell you that’s what we’ve been missing ever since Song left. Definition of madness doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. Still – keeping on thinking about it drives you insane. If you’re going to play Arteta against these sort of sides, Flamini needs to be played as well.

    4. The new formation is hurting our main players, dm isolated, ozil out of position, ramsey playing crap, but… wilshere looks fine and thats good enough for wenger.

      1. This is one of the worst performance I have ever seen.not even defeats against the big 3 in the bpl last year was so painful.this formation sucks as nothing working for us..how can a top side have arteta shielding its back four.I have always supported Wenger but I think my patience in running low now…

  60. Its the fact that 1) it shouldve been much more than two goals conceded and 2) that we are still capable of producing performances like the one today and that were still vulnerable to an absolute battering…

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