Posted on December 03, 2017 by ADMIN

Arsenal v Man United Player Ratings – Iwobi MOTM

This is a very difficult game to give ratings, because if you look at the chances that Arsenal created against Man United then nearly all of our strikers and midfielders were brilliant, but when you look at the end product and the end result you could argue that they were awful. And as for the defenders…

Anyway here are my ratings for the game.

Cech 6
Didn’t have so much to do but picked the ball out of the net three times! I wonder what the score would have been if we swapped keepers…

Mustafi 0
As Wenger said “I have no idea what was wrong with him”

Koscielny 5
Some good points in the game, but one particularly awful one. Looked a bit jaded. Age catching up?

Monreal 7
Simply because the other defenders were awful!

Bellerin 6
A bit better than he has been lately, maybe because we were on the front foot for a change..

Kolasinac 5
Wasn’t very effective in defence or attack….

Ramsey 7
Played pretty well again. He tried very hard to set people up as usual but….

Xhaka 4
We keep expecting him to improve a little but he seems to be going backwards. Give Wilshere a chance please…

Alexis 5
Lots of energy going to waste. A headless chicken comes to mind…

Ozil 7
Played well. Maybe he impressed Mourinho ahead of his summer move..

Lacazette 8
So he can play a full 90 minutes when it suits Arsene! Definitely our most dangerous player and deserved more than one goal…

Subs

Iwobi 8.5
I thought this was his best game ever for us. Looked dangerous most of the time. It was only 1-1 with him on the pitch!

Welbeck 6
A few bright sparks when he came on. Penalty!

Giroud N/A
Did nothing to earn a rating..

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37 thoughts on “Arsenal v Man United Player Ratings – Iwobi MOTM

    1. gotanidea

      Arsenal lost by some easy goals, because Wenger never barked at his players when they did amateur mistakes like in the Manchester United match. Guardiola and Mourinho will never allow mediocrity in their teams, they will bench or sell the incompetent players, like what happened to Bravo, Hart, Nolito, Salah (when he was at Chelsea), Cuadrado, etc.

      Mourinho instructed his team to defend and he deliberately allowed Arsenal to have the ball, so Manchester United could hit them from a quick counter-attack, like what happened with Manchester United’s third goal. If Arsenal were really good, they would have been able to keep up with Manchester City at the Etihad stadium, not just dominant against defending or smaller teams like Huddersfield.

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      1. muffdiver

        i really agree with the bench or sell incompetent players comment
        one of wengers biggest weaknesses is loyalty to bang average players

        an he takes forever to buy what we need
        dm takes a decade
        proper defence takes a decade
        striker takes years an years

        but yesterday was not his fault .
        mustafi and kos let our club down yesterday

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      2. citrenoogeht

        All you people who think that remonstrating at players in public and hanging them out to dry improves their performance are deluded. The sports science behind this kind of behaviour shows clearly that the long term effect is usually damaging to the player’s performance – not to talk of decimating the dressing room.

        What the likes of Wenger needs to do is firstly sign the correct players and then coach them properly with effective tactics. Where things go wrong on the field of play, Wenger needs to pass on instructions/advice and encouragements. If the situation is looking irretrievable then an effective substitution should be considered.

        As the match unfolded yesterday, I have to say (not being a Wenger lover), that Wenger made a bold gamble to go for broke and on another day this gamble would have paid off. When Mustafi came off, he changed the shape and made us more attacking by bringing on Iwobi. When Pogba was sent off, instead of replacing Lacazette, he took off the “Tank” and brought on Giroud.

        One any other day we would have won that game comfortably. I for one, cannot complain about our attacking performance yesterday. I have to accept however, that yesterday just wasn’t our day. If I were a UTD fan this morning, although I would be celebrating the win, at the back of my mind the reality of UTD frailties would be extremely worrisome for me.

        Mark my words UTD will not win the title. If we meet them in any competition (if we can keep our squad together), I am sure that we will beat them – 100%.

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      3. Samuel

        arsene needs to wake up. Sometimes i wonder if couches like pelegrini could do better

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  1. ARSENAL FC THE BEST

    Yes I was really impressed by Lacazette the guy is a hit
    Iwoby was fantastic yesterday.
    Did we really lost this game????
    I still don’t understand

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    1. GunnerJack

      Iwobi ran around a lot but created ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. As freaking usual. Man of the Match! Hahaha – I thought admin were just having a joke to lighten our disappointment at the result… couldn’t believe they actually meant it. Still, if headless chicken watching is your sport then go for it!

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  2. Hide_TR07

    I agree Iwobi had a good game, but still, Lacazette was MOTM to me.

    I hope Xhaka will be benched and Wenger will rotate some players, like Wilshire, Elneny and Coquelin. They need more playing time and I would like to see more competition among players. I think a good manager can rotate the players to keep them both competitive and fit, and improve the whole squad.

    Of course, a good manager would have strenghtened the squad before the season had started in the first place. I hope we can bring in one or two new signings in January.

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    1. GunnerJack

      Yes Xhaka has had enough time and chances now. He has zero awareness of players around him, especially opposition players, and must now be considered a terrible buy. How he was not marking Lingard for that 3rd goal is a mystery – how can a professional footballer give an opponent all the time and space he wants in his own goal area without marking him? Just watch it again and you’ll see what I mean. Unbelievable! And sickening! Replace a.s.a.p!

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  3. gotanidea

    Admin, you have forgotten the manager’s rating. Even though Wenger is not a player, he deserves to be rated, because we have seen similar mistakes due to Arsenal players’ inability to handle heavy pressures in the last ten years.

    Different players went in and went out, but they all created similar errors that were not supposed to happen, had Wenger gotten better system (training programmes, selections, rewards, punishments, transfer decisions, youth development, strategies, etc). Namely Silvestre, Cygan, Gallas, Djourou, Squillaci, Senderos, etc have done similar mistakes and we will see the same movie in the next season, if Wenger is still around.

    Wenger will never be able to bring another Premier League title to Arsenal, if he cannot teach his players to pass better and if he cannot bench them for their silly mistakes. Now the Europa League would be Arsenal’s only chance to go back to the Champions League, and it will get tougher after the group phase.

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    1. John Ibrahim

      New managers will not bring titles unless they are given at least 500million to spend…

      considering top players now cost 100m and up…

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      1. gotanidea

        Money should not matter in football, but the team commitment and system are valuable, proven by Ranieri and Leicester City when they won the Premier League with very minimum resources (compared to the resouces of the fifth richest club in the world, Arsenal).

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        1. GunnerJack

          “Money should not matter in football…” probably ranks as your most stupid comment yet! How come the top clubs are the ones that spend the most money? Leicester was just a fluke and you get that in all sports. It is NOT the norm! Wake up and smell the coffee!

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    2. citrenoogeht

      Agreed, the race for the title is out of the question. However to say that the only hope of a champion’s league position (from this point forward) can only happen through the Europa League is frankly ludicrous.

      Currently, we sit in fifth position in the table, one point behind Liverpool, who still have to come to the Emirates. Just because you are upset with the loss doesn’t mean you should put things out of perspective.

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  4. ARSENAL FC THE BEST

    I do not blame wenger for losing the game yesterday but what I am surprised with is the fact that when we get one defender injured there is not a back up defender. We have to play a left back in the middle. If Mertesaker cannot do the job why wenger does not buy a replacement?

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    1. GunnerJack

      Because he won’t spend top money on top class defenders. So we get AVERAGE defenders who are exposed when the TOP CLASS attackers of other teams come to town.

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    2. citrenoogeht

      ARSENAL FC THE BEST: I thought that it was blatantly obvious that if Mustafi had been injured when we were 0 – 1 down then he would have replaced him with Mertesaker but at 0 – 2 down he decided to gamble and be more offensive by chasing the game and put Iwobi on.

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  5. Ray

    So many fans today posting comments about yesterday’s game and individual performances and yet we all still fail to realise the problems are constantly reoccurring throughout the season!

    Not just this season but every season. The same s**t, different toilet scenario we’ve all seen so many times before. January will come and certain players futures will be clearer, as will the run in to the PL seson. Another struggle for CL places! Sound familiar? The same Arsene Wenger rhetoric when all is done and dusted and yet, we should look back at games like yesterday’s and say, ” that was a game that cost us dearly” because great teams, players and managers don’t make the same errors as much as we do!!

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    1. gotanidea

      The same scenario could happen again in the next few years, if Wenger stays:

      – The fans would protest for Arsenal’s final league position at the end of this season.

      – Arsenal would purchase one or two expensive players to please the angry mob.

      – More horibble performances (with similar silly mistakes) than the inspiring ones would occur again throughout next season, just like this season, and the previous season, and the season before that, and so on and so forth…

      – Arsenal would keep taking money from us, despite showing no improvement and lack of entertainment.

      – We would still follow Arsenal, because we have been supporting it for a very long time and because Arsenal is an underdog (who does not love an underdog story).

      – JustArsenal will capitalize from our moaning hobby on their site. We need to release the disappointment somewhere 😀

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      1. Admin Post author

        Justarsenal will moan when we have reasons to moan and give credit where and when it is due….

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      2. jon fox

        Well said Nostadamus. Not that anyone need be a Nostradamus to see the truth in your post. All anyone needs are eyes that work.

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  6. muffdiver

    the ozil dynamic is intriguing, our best player at the moment
    but clearly not staying, and the warm feeling towards man u staff and players yesterday wont help things

    ivans right to get new staff in -wenger has put us in a poor position,
    do feel sorry for wenger yester-
    mustafi being a error prone coward and kos having a mare- was not his fault

    wenger gets a 8 rating for me – we played well –
    still losing to mourinho is essentially back to the norm…players like sanchez an ozil will see the gulf

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  7. Fixio

    A defensive midfielder like Ndidi should be considered, he has been doing great work for Leicester.

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  8. Vlad

    Iwobi MOTM? 1-1 with him on the pitch? Firs of all, he came on when Mustafi went out, and it was already 2-0 by that time. Secondly, he didn’t have that good of a game. In fact, I would’ve preferred if Welbeck came on instead. Other than that, I’d give MOTM to Ozil, or Lacazette. Ramsey had a decent game but he keeps missing too many sitters.

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    1. Admin Post author

      Vlad, it was 2-0 when Iwobi came on (after 10 minutes) so from 2-0 to 3-1 the score was 1-1….

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      1. Vlad

        Ah, I see. Well, I still don’t think that he had a good game. Unfortunately, it looks like he’s turning into another Ox, whereas we need another Ozil.

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        1. Tega

          Ure just bias. If welbeck played as well as Iwobi u will b celebrating. He did well.

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    2. jon fox

      I thought it was Iwobis best game by far this season. But Lacazette, Ozil and Ramsey were better. What would help IWOBI IS IF HE ACTUALLY GOT SOME COACHING IN HIS SHOOTING, WHICH IS EMBARRASSING.

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  9. Ivan

    I think people’s frustrations are borne from years and years and years of the same things happening.
    Teams sit back and park the bus, Arsenal camp in the opposition half and then the either our defence makes a mistake or the other team spring forward quickly and we do not cover the break and they score. Yesterday we had both. This is why Wenger has such a dreadful record against Maureen and the other big teams.
    Personally I would score as follows:
    Effort – 9/10. The all chased bout
    Defence – 2/10. How can it be anything else with 3 costly pieces of defending?
    Creativity – 9/10. Very good we created 33 chances.
    Finishing – 1/10. We had 33 chances and scored only 1 goal. Too many of the chances were hit either straight at De Gea or very close to him.
    Overall Score – 6/10. How can it be anything else, we lost! Created lots of chances but bottled it defensively and in front of goal.

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  10. Kenny Rolfe

    You forgot the referee: 2 for turning up : Yet another awful display and before anyone starts to say “don’t blame the ref” why not, he constantly let United players slow the game down especially De Gea, deprived us of two penalties, the second one on Welbeck absolutely blatant. Our refs are the laughing stock of Europe all down to the “old pals act” of appointments by former referee Mike Riley. Did anyone see the performance of Martin Atkinson at the Watford / Spurs game, abysmal. I’m a Wenger out man, but he was right when he compared the deplorable standard of referees in this country with those in the Italian league.

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    1. jon fox

      Spot on with the awfuil refs, Kenny. Overall we win some and lose some but that is not acceptable. PREM FOOTBALL IS A HIGHLY EXPENSIVE and very professional business with rank amateurs officiating which is appalling. In almost all football games there are myriad fouls at corners and wide free kicks into the box and multiple fouls by defenders mainly – though by attackers too – which SHOULD be given as penalties but very rarely are. This is appalling and year after year nothing and no one does anything to correct it. Mike Dean, almost alone, tried it last season and just got abuse and NO BACKING WHATEVER FROM THE AUTHORITIES. Shameful!

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      1. Kenny Rolfe

        There’ye all slapping one another on the back Jon, giving each other compliments saying how good they are.

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  11. Lexynal

    We lost …..but i saw one of the best sustained attack forays that I ever saw. Regardless of the defensive errors…we could have easily scored 5 of the 33 shots on targets. Take it in its strride and move on. On another day, that could easily haven been another 3-0 win over ManU like we did 2 seasons ago. There is a lot of encouragements guys- if we play the remain league games with that kind of intensity and passion (like it is becoming a trend in the last few games) a lot of teams will suffer in our hands; and it may not be as bad at the end of the season. Guys, let’s take the pains and push it behind us. Time COYG!

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    1. jon fox

      Well said Lexynal. I saw it exactly the same way as you and there are so many positives. I have rarely ever -in sixty years watching us – ever been so proud of our team in defeat. IF WE COULD REPLICATE THAT SAME PERF AND PASSION EVERY WEEK WE WOULD BE SERIOUS TITLE CHALLENGERS(though not this season as the gap is now too large on City).

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      1. Kenny Rolfe

        Can see where Lexynal got he’s two thumbs up from {at time of post}, agree 100% with both of you

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