Has Arsenal become too toxic to manage because of the fans?

Nobody would want to manage Arsenal because of their complaining fans – Simon Jordan.

Arsenal would struggle to replace Unai Emery if they fire the former PSG boss because of their fans, according to former Crystal Palace chairman, Simon Jordan.

Arsenal fans have grown tired of the club’s trophyless run, their dissatisfaction forced the club’s board to fire Arsene Wenger before last season and they are now demanding the sacking of Unai Emery.

Results haven’t been good for the Spaniard this season and it seems only a matter of time before he gets the sack, however, Jordan believes other managers would want to avoid the Emirates hot seat because of the club’s fans.

Jordan reckons that no one would want to manage in the kind of atmosphere that has been created by the Emirates crowd.

Speaking on the Final Word on Sunday, Jordan said: “Who would want to go into Arsenal and manage Arsenal?

“They don’t seem to have any money to buy key players; everybody knows Arsenal need a central defender, and the one thing they don’t get is a central defender of any calibre.

“Everybody knows there is an issue from the boardroom to the manager’s dugout, because clearly the relationship isn’t as good as it could be because the owners aren’t as invested in that football club as they could be.

“And the final part of it is – who would want to go and manage for a group of fans who do nothing but complain every single time they don’t like something they see.”

OK, here is my personal opinion on what Jordan has had to say and I will ignore my personal feelings towards him.

He is 100% wrong about top managers not wanting to manage Arsenal. That is utter rubbish. Managers would love to manage Arsenal, we are a massive club, one of the biggest in the world.

Yes, he is right about the fans, I have said so myself, especially about the hugely popular AFTV that allows vile and abusive language towards our own players.

It happened with Wenger and now it is happening with Emery. That cannot be denied. Whether it is right or wrong, it is a reputation that Arsenal fans are getting.

Not all of course, but certainly the more vocal ones.

28 Comments

  1. gotanidea says:

    No, if we compare the Gooners with other EPL top football club fans

    The atmosphere is a part of the entertainment

    1. Uwot? says:

      First up.jordan is a prat.should stick his nose out of OUR affairs & concentrate on his 2nd rate club.The fans complain? So what? It’s their right & it comes with the turf.he easily forgets Newcastle fans have been moaning for donkeys years about their club.ditto spurs prior to poch setting them up.lets try Manure.at the height of Fergies reign ,wanted to sack him cos hadn’t won the title for 2/3 seasons when on a rebuild.lets not forget Chelsea fans or Liverpool .as fickle a you can get when a manager hasn’t delivered a title.Like it or not .its the modern way of the prem.why should we be looked upon as any different.i think people like Jordan are more than happy for the status quo to continue as long as Arsenal aren’t on top.sutts them fine.

      1. arsenalbyforce says:

        this is arsenal

  2. Tommogun58 says:

    Jordan’s a prat,all I can say to him is watch this space when Unai gets his marching orders,there will be plenty of takers for his job.
    You are living in cloud cuckoo land mate if you think nobody would want to manage this club,All clubs have fans that get just as vocal as Arsenal they are showing how passionate they are about the club.

    1. ken1945 says:

      Tommogun58, agree with your second sentence 100%, with you all the way.

      I’m not too sure about the first one though, there wasn’t that many the last time and, more importantly, none of the top top managers seemed prepared to switch over to us…anf the situation is much more toxic now than it ever was then.

  3. CanonSpike says:

    Can Raul and Edu go speak to Mauricio already.

    I honestly feel that Arteta is a huge risk, just simply looking at Ole at Man Utd. Mikel still needs to experience the ups & downs of coaching/managing a football club(not with Arsenal) before he can take the reigns of a club like Arsenal.

    With Allegri, we don’t fully understand what he can give us for an environment like the Premier league.

    With Diego Simeone, I honestly feel that fans asking for this are using feelings more than anything. Just because our defense is atrocious, they feel that Arsenal getting a defensively minded coach is the solution? It will solve the current issue, but mark my words the same fans will be complaining about our football being boring as few months later.

    Pochetino fits the bill. He has premier league experience, he can work with what we have and make it much better, and he’s available. The man took the spuds to the Champions league final last season for crying out loud

  4. CorporateMan says:

    Any fan base would behave exactly same as Arsenal’s. Starved for so long of any meaningful success and now moving glaringly backwards!
    How much did Leicester City spend on players that they are not only third on the log but also playing some very good football.
    Any coach who is not convinced he has what it takes to change the situation in Arsenal should please stay away.
    Thank you.

    1. Diogenes says:

      True.

      Borussia Dortmund fans were whistling their team even more than Arsenal’s in a similar situation just this weekend.

      But when Arsenal do it, the media always focus on that even if it’s just 10 percent of fans and it happens at other clubs as well.

      Also – what others before me said: Arsenal is still a huge club who will attract a lot of candidates in the summer. The mistake would be appointing someone for the long run now when there are so few good bets available. Sure, Poch is perfect for Arsenal’s current situation – punching above weight, improving youngsters, qualifying for the CL — but I guarantee he won’t go to Arsenal. Although, years from now, everything is possible.

  5. GunneRay says:

    Arsenal fans are not toxic! The club is. Because its managed by muppets!!

    1. Mogunna says:

      Managed by greedy low lives. Kroenke last share’s acquisitions were fans share!

  6. Neil Fitt says:

    Jordan is right in his annalasis of the Kroenke,s who take out more than they put in.The only time they took notice was when the crowd started dwindling ,and when faced with a massive petition.Both scenarios lead to a cut in their income.
    They need to be much more hands on day to day.
    But the fans are no different to Liverpool,Man United,or Chelsea,they are fed up with their club being ridiculed week in week out by the media!!

  7. Sabs says:

    This guy is talking none-sense, which supporters support their club with things going horribly wrong for almost a year now? We started playing badly since the 2nd half of last season and things have gone off horribly since the start of the current season. So which supporters would be content with that?

  8. Mogunna says:

    Rubbish! Kroenke dictates, keeps all money, messes Suarez and Kante deals, then of course Chelsea were champions and Reds went infront of us since!

    When you have people with no football values and there to make profit only, it is no way to have anything left.

    Wenger sack is from other teams passing us, but if Kroenke did pay the miserable 45M for these 2, we would have both and indeed many titles!

    That was terribly wrong and indeed fans forget it, Wenger had to put up with a lot and made Miracles to qualify us to CL for so long, taking us to finals with a team fullymade of Academy players highlights & resumes perfectly!

    Kroenke knew how much Arsene loves this club, keeping us flowing with no money, of course you need some to compete!

    1. Phil says:

      You could spend a BILLION on Messi Ronaldo Pogba ….etc.But until someone actually starts looking at our defence and midfield cover no amount of money will fix what we are witnessing now.

  9. Where'sMyTop4TrophyGone? says:

    Just think that under Wenger in 2017/18, we had seven more points than we have now and the roster was significantly tougher. So whatever negativity coming from the stands can’t be considered toxic.

  10. Samuel Akinsola Adebosin says:

    It’s not Arsenal fans have grown tired of the club’s trophyless run. But not too long ago, Arsenal won the FA Cup thrice in four seasons. Or did they not?

    Therefore it’s should rather be, Arsenal fans have become restless of seeing their beloved club Arsenal gone 14 consecutive seasons without a major title win. But the win of the FA Cup and the major Europa League Cup win this season couple with a top-four table finish this season by Arsenal should sooth some fray nerves of the Gooners. And calm the rising tension at the club down for some 2 seasons before it could rise up again if Arsenal did not win the PL title in the next 2 seasons that will follow this season. But that’s assuming Arsenal win the FA Cup again this season and the major title of Europa League Cup and also finish in one of the top-four places in the PL table that is befitting a top PL club side of Arsenal status.

    But to say no top football coach will decline taking the Arsenal head coach job if he’s offered because of Arsenal fans protest on the club lack of major title win for the past 14 seasons cannot be true. For, any new head coach appointed by the club will like to break the none major title win by Arsenal for 14 consecutive seasons jinks as he could promise heaven and earth at the time he is appointed that he will put an end to the 14 seasons none major title win running at the club.

    1. Truth says:

      It is rather naive to think we can still finish in the top 4 this season. Sorry.

      The only long shot we have is winning the EL.

      No one cares if we win the FA cup but don’t qualify for CL football.

      The likes of Auba and Laca etc will not sign a new contract in the hope they can win an other FA cup next year.

  11. Samuel Akinsola Adebosin says:

    It’s not Arsenal fans have grown tired of the club’s trophyless run. But not too long ago, Arsenal won the FA Cup thrice in four seasons. Or did they not?

    Therefore it’s should rather be, Arsenal fans have become restless of seeing their beloved club Arsenal gone 14 consecutive seasons without a major title win. But the win of the FA Cup and the major Europa League Cup win this season couple with a top-four table finish this season by Arsenal should sooth some fray nerves of the Gooners. And calm the rising tension at the club down for some 2 seasons before it could rise up again if Arsenal did not win the PL title in the next 2 seasons that will follow this season. But that’s assuming Arsenal win the FA Cup again this season and the major title of Europa League Cup and also finish in one of the top-four places in the PL table that is befitting a top PL club side of Arsenal status.

    But to say any top football coach will decline taking the Arsenal head coach job if he’s offered because of Arsenal fans protest on the club lack of major title win for the past 14 seasons cannot be true. For, any new head coach appointed by the club will like to break the none major title win by Arsenal for 14 consecutive seasons jinks as he could promise heaven and earth at the time he is appointed that he will put an end to the 14 seasons none major title win running at the club.

  12. carl shadbolt says:

    I can understand the Fans anger but it is not for AFTV to go around allowing idiots to rant and slag off the players week in week out !! AFTV should be putting it out there to get behind the players and back them. After all is AFTV a supporters station ??? and to support you have to get behind the player in good times and bad.fact
    I understand people getting cheesed off with the owners not investing in the right positions but that is not really their fault either. As tht is soley down to the Manager !! He says what he needs and then the others work on that.fact
    Emery is at fault for all of this toxic feeling at the club. The buck stops with him fact final finished. His selections for the team have been a joke all season long and his subs have been a joke also. The system and systems he uses a terrible and shows the man hasnt got a clue !! He has had a year and a bit to get to know his players but he still hasnt got a clue what their strengths and weaknesses are. He plays a 100% def mid in attacking roles ie Torriera he didnt use our most creative player OZIL has hasnt played Holding since the guy came back probably our best center back and buys Luis who is past his sell by date and plays him over our best center back ??WTF He plays Xhaka up to the Xhaka rant week in week out but doesnt play Willock instead ??? Willock an up and coming player that has clearly shown he is far better then Xhaka will ever be !! The playing in out from the back every time is a joke and makes the team look and feel silly !! it actually has caused alot of the condfidence to drain away from the team !! as players see the mistakes that come from it time and time again !! Sokratis cannot play the ball out at all and Luis struggles with that too !! It causes teams to push us into mistakes and players move out of position to try and help by giving the defence something to aim for !! Emery is killing the club the fans the players the team !! AFTV i hope you are happy now you have wrecked our club with the help of Emery !! Your wanting to get rid of Wenger so soon has killed this club !! and you are making money off the back of our failures WELL DONE !!

  13. Grandad says:

    Simon Jordan is entitled to his opinion but in this case he is mistaken.A team is only as good as its poorest player and unfortunately Emery does not recognize our weaknesses which are clearly at CB and in midfield where we are screaming out for a dedicated defensive minded player such as Ndidi of Leicester.Any Manager worth his salt would soon see through the likes of Socratis etc and recognise that we are probably only three quality players away from being a very decent side.I very much doubt if any potential Manager will be influenced by the current anger being displayed by certain fans.Three wins on the trot would calm them down.

  14. Truth says:

    It is hard to deny the atmosphere around the club is going toxic again. However, in my opinion, Arsenal fans have been the most loyal un-demanding fans a big club could hope for.

    Year after year of failure to get back to the top and year after year of Wenger not being given the money needed to invest in the club, the fans largely stood by and supported the club and Wenger.

    Once not even the most optimistic fans could close their eyes to the downward spiral they started to call for change. Change finally arrived.

    Now we fear that once again management is too slow to recognize the trend and the frustration sparks from that in my case. I don’t care about results as long as I believe we are building towards something. With Emery it is clear we are not building towards anything posetive.

  15. Stewart Macintosh says:

    You won’t get much attention from the Kronkes til the NFL season is done I fear, and the Rams are still alive in the playoff picture with a bunch of games to go, meaning attention is in North America.

    Hope I am wrong but we won’t see any action til January and even then I hold my breath. There seems to be a lot of people wearing rose-coloured glasses at present, especially in the club’s leadership group. Would be really nice if positive support from fans would boost us up the ladder 🙂 And if you believe that, I have some fantastic land to sell you, or maybe a bag of magic beans.

    I will be quite happy to be wrong about lack of action as team is imploding, going from one poor performance to the next – we are 8th and have a very tough run after our “easy” four games (Southampton was one of those easy ones).

    Our only hope is Europa, and when we have to start playing Champions League rejects or fellow EPL teams we are toast.

    We can debate the quality of the team – it would be nice to say that a change in manager will cure all ills – it won’t but it would certainly help. Admin – a cold, ruthless look at personnel position by position might be worth some ink. Bottom line, we are in big trouble.

    Managers are going to be giving us a pass unless they have to prove themselves or it is a big step up – we are a big club, but we haven’t been playing that way and we are slipping down the ladder – I fear that it is mostly Arsenal fans who see us as a big club and the rest of the world not so much – and we haven’t done much to prove them wrong for some time.

    Same goes for players. We may have to change our targets on the “level” of players we can get as well – top talent won’t be coming with no hint of Champions League or EPF title races. Then there is the cash to pay the transfer fees. We need some good discount shopping, Black Friday sales…

    On a positive note, well with this team right now the list is pretty short. Have a good one all!

  16. jon fox says:

    Be glad if the fans indeed are “Toxic” which of course they are NOT. What they actually are is PASSIONATE, AND PASSION IS SOMETHING ONLY THE FANS UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW. If we do not have passion – call it toxic if you wish though I DON’T AGREE, we are truly dead. What is truly toxic is LACK OF PASSION. Shown by the owner, by those who should have already sacked Emery and most of the players too. Without passion, which is a vibrant life force, almost anything you can name is effectively, even if not physically, dead already! Think on!

  17. Stewart Macintosh says:

    no disagreement, but we might as well work on world peace, global warming and such.

    He owns the club and can do what he wants. Sadly, the only events that “force” a sale is if he wants to cash out or no longer considers EPL as a good investment. The choice is his alone.

    What scares me, is the damage that has to be done to get him to decide to leave.

    1. Vims says:

      Isn’t the damage already happening before our very eyes in our very own lifetime. Our hope is to see improvement but everything is heading south. that which we fear to confront now will surely catchup with us albeit slowly by slowly. Since he joined our club things have been going from better to worse. Do you really think by giving him time to milk our club dry until there is no milk helps us the fans? we hit him hard now and make him go before he takes us down to the lower leagues because there where we are heading with him in charge.

  18. Declan says:

    Toxic? Shut up, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
    Yes I realise that’s a double negative but you know what I mean….

  19. Ainslee says:

    for me I would like to see/hear that Arsenal managed by a person who knows arsenal in out, I meant someone coached in PL first than before. for instance -pochetino
    -Rodgers
    -Arteta
    -Walder
    -Steve G
    Iam anti outcome 100%

  20. Patrick_G says:

    15 years without the EPL come next year this time.

    Fans supported this spineless club since.

    What changes? Anyone who blames AFTV or any other fan around the world for their opinion is a fool.

    This is nothing new. Fans have done this for decades, and its only idiots and social media make it seem like this is only an Arsenal issue.

    This is everywhere where there is unhappiness.

    And the real problem is the club owners and board.

    My message for the stadium fans is, don’t show up for 1 match, stand outside the stadium instead. Don’t enter the stadium.

    Lets see what the owners and media says about that, because you cant blame fans, who is not even in the stadium.

    Sick of this club….. we sold out to a billionaire fraud.

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